[MBZ] Wheel fitting Was re: OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-13 Thread Donald Snook
Alex Chamberlin wrote: 

 

No, I am right.  But I can clarify.  Like OK Don said, bolting on and
fitting are two different things. It's a simple matter of fact that
the offsets are different enough to cause trouble.

 

124 wheels will NOT fit on a 126, 107, or 123 without spacers 15 mm
thick or so on the hubs.  Otherwise they will contact the brake discs
and front suspension. 

 

Let me see if I can be more clear about this.  My 126 had 124 wheels
that came off a 1994 E320 Wagon.  They did indeed fit! I drove 10,000
miles on the car with those wheels.  I DID NOT have spacers on them and
they DID NOT contact the discs or front suspension.  

 

Previously, I thought exactly as you did. At least until we put them on
the car drove around the block looked then at them on a lift and they
did not contact anything - no matter how hard I turned the wheel or what
the angle of departure was or any other variable.  The wheels worked
perfectly. They were on the car for over a year. 

 

Alex also wrote Either way the result is not what Mercedes intended and
the ride and handling characteristics of the car will be significantly
worse. 

 

How do you know that the ride and handling will be WORSE rather
different or *gasp* better?   

 

If you are saying that because of the different offset, the handling is
somehow affected (in some way positive or negative), then you may be
right.  HOWEVER, I noticed NO difference in handling or performance.
Perhaps it is not ideal to use 124 wheels on a 126, does not mean that
a) they won't fit or b) it adversely affects the car.   

 

Donald H. Snook

2001 Ford Expedition 

 

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel fitting Was re: OT the travails of a 2 ford family

2007-09-13 Thread archer
 Alex Chamberlin wrote:
 No, I am right.  But I can clarify.  Like OK Don said, bolting on and
 fitting are two different things. It's a simple matter of fact that
 the offsets are different enough to cause trouble.

 124 wheels will NOT fit on a 126, 107, or 123 without spacers 15 mm
 thick or so on the hubs.  Otherwise they will contact the brake discs
 and front suspension.

 Let me see if I can be more clear about this.  My 126 had 124 wheels
 that came off a 1994 E320 Wagon.  They did indeed fit! I drove 10,000
 miles on the car with those wheels.  I DID NOT have spacers on them and
 they DID NOT contact the discs or front suspension.

 Previously, I thought exactly as you did. At least until we put them on
 the car drove around the block looked then at them on a lift and they
 did not contact anything - no matter how hard I turned the wheel or what
 the angle of departure was or any other variable.  The wheels worked
 perfectly. They were on the car for over a year.

 Alex also wrote Either way the result is not what Mercedes intended and
 the ride and handling characteristics of the car will be significantly
 worse.

 How do you know that the ride and handling will be WORSE rather
 different or *gasp* better?

 If you are saying that because of the different offset, the handling is
 somehow affected (in some way positive or negative), then you may be
 right.  HOWEVER, I noticed NO difference in handling or performance.
 Perhaps it is not ideal to use 124 wheels on a 126, does not mean that
 a) they won't fit or b) it adversely affects the car.
 Donald H. Snook
 2001 Ford Expedition

Could this and numerous other disagreements be due to the fact that Mercedes 
assumes their cars are going to be driven 100+ mph on the autobahn?  At 100 
mph there may be differences in handling with non-specified wheels.
Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D


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