Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Meant to say, "lived it."

Wilt

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Precious - probably even more so when you've lived for several years (13 in
my case - well, 15½ if ya count my B-47 crew chief time) intimately involved
with all of that "stuff."

BTW, wing commander can't issue "go code."

Wilton

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General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: General Ripper 
called Strategic Air Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go 
code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if you'd 
like me to to read it.


President Merkin Muffley 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm634/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Read it!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Ahem... The Duty 
Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the 
go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no 
one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, 
I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be 
totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best 
kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them 
now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, 
we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, 
through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you 
all" and he hung up.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Uh, we're, still 
trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.


President Merkin Muffley 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm634/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: There's nothing to 
figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: We-he-ell, uh, I'd 
like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts 
are in.


President Merkin Muffley 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm634/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: General Turgidson! 
When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there 
was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Well, I, uh, don't 
think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single 
slip-up, sir.





On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
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Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: 
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room



-Original Message-
From:  WILTON via Mercedes

Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...




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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Precious - probably even more so when you've lived for several years (13 in 
my case - well, 15½ if ya count my B-47 crew chief time) intimately involved 
with all of that "stuff."


BTW, wing commander can't issue "go code."

Wilton

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General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: General Ripper 
called Strategic Air Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go 
code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if you'd 
like me to to read it.


President Merkin Muffley 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm634/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Read it!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Ahem... The Duty 
Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the 
go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no 
one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, 
I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be 
totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best 
kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them 
now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, 
we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, 
through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you 
all" and he hung up.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Uh, we're, still 
trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.


President Merkin Muffley 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm634/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: There's nothing to 
figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: We-he-ell, uh, I'd 
like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts 
are in.


President Merkin Muffley 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm634/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: General Turgidson! 
When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there 
was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001715/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Well, I, uh, don't 
think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single 
slip-up, sir.





On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: 
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room



-Original Message-
From:  WILTON via Mercedes

Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...




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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

General "Buck" Turgidson : 
General Ripper called Strategic Air Command headquarters shortly after he 
issued the go code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if 
you'd like me to to read it.

President Merkin Muffley : 
Read it! 

General "Buck" Turgidson : 
Ahem... The Duty Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* 
issued the go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, 
and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of 
life, I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be 
totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best kind 
of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now, uhuh. 
Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, 
in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and 
essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all" and he hung up. 

General "Buck" Turgidson : 
Uh, we're, still trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir. 

President Merkin Muffley : 
There's nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a 
psychotic. 

General "Buck" Turgidson : 
We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until 
all the facts are in. 

President Merkin Muffley : 
General Turgidson! When you instituted the human reliability tests, you 
*assured* me there was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring! 

General "Buck" Turgidson : 
Well, I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of 
a single slip-up, sir.




> On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, 
> you can't fight in here! This is the War Room
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  WILTON via Mercedes
>> 
>> Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, that's a goodun, too.

Wilt

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Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: 
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room



-Original Message-
From:  WILTON via Mercedes

Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...




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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> I got a tour of the "big board" too at one point.

I got a tour of StarWars command at Shriver AFB.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: Gentlemen, 
you can't fight in here! This is the War Room

> -Original Message-
> From:  WILTON via Mercedes
> 
> Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...



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[MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

While watching the WGA’s top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:

Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the warheads/bombs like they did in 
Dr. Strangelove?

Just curious…

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

While watching the WGA's top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:

Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the 
warheads/bombs like they did in Dr. Strangelove?


Just curiousŠ

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631

Dan



That was done routinely in WWII, and I suspect 
Korea and veetnam.  not sure about the B52 loads. 
That was a lot to write on.



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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Some may have; I never did.

Wilton

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While watching the WGA's top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:

Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the 
warheads/bombs like they did in Dr. Strangelove?


Just curiousS

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631

Dan



That was done routinely in WWII, and I suspect 
Korea and veetnam.  not sure about the B52 loads. 
That was a lot to write on.



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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

No.  Strangelove was fiction BS taken by too many as fact.  Mine was  real 
life.   ;<)


Wilton

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While watching the WGA’s top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:

Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the warheads/bombs like they 
did in Dr. Strangelove?


Just curious…

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I took Strangelove with a large grain of salt, as my Dad liked to point out 
procedural stuff in it that would have never happened.  Dad did say that the 
bomber crews in WWII often wrote on the bombs with chalk, in many cases things 
that were not appropriate for family hour (he was a B-29 flight engineer in a 
reconnaissance wing, but was stationed with a bomber group.)

It is one of my favorite movies, more so due to it being a Kubrick film and the 
dark humor than anything else. And George C. Scott, who was revered in my 
household when I was growing up as the representation of a "real man".

“But-but-but they’ll see the big board!”

Dan


> On Nov 14, 2015, at 12:58 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> No.  Strangelove was fiction BS taken by too many as fact.  Mine was  real 
> life.   ;<)
> 
> Wilton
> 
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> Subject: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...
> 
> 
>> While watching the WGA’s top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:
>> 
>> Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the warheads/bombs like they did 
>> in Dr. Strangelove?
>> 
>> Just curious…
>> 
>> http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I got a tour of the "big board" too at one point.  The displays were 
quite interesting technology.  They ran through an attack/launch drill 
in real time, which kinda made my skin crawl.


Toured a Looking Glass aircraft that was on alert, they were in touch 
with their counterpart orbiting "up north" and I'm sure Wilton had 
plenty of conversations with them.  They ran through a "go" drill and 
weapons release exercise on the aircraft, which was somewhat sobering 
too, even after the earlier demo.


After that we got a tour of the NEACP plane.  It turned out not to be so 
much a tour as they let us on and left us to our devices, which I 
thought was kinda interesting in that we did not have baby sitter 
following us around saying "DON'T TOUCH THAT!!!"  The guards surrounding 
it with their weapons at ready kinda got our attention until we showed 
all our paypas...  I got to sit in the preezy's chair and the 
pilot's seat.


Then went to the big transmitter out in the middle of the corn fields 
that talks to submarines.  That was impressive.  A bunch of your 
strategic weapons in one go, though no missiles.


--R

On 11/14/15 3:05 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  The 
big board was real, and I have seen it at SAC HQ, at Offutt AFB, NE.  
I also understand the significance of it. I'm sure that even I was 
noted on the board in some manner many times.  Each unit also had its 
"big board" in the unit command post.


I also held and studied many times targeting books like the one Scott 
clutched to his chest.


BTW, the term heard most from the command post was probably, "Stand 
by." Well, that's what we "lovingly" kidded them about, anyway.


Another, if you called in and said, for example, "--- Call sign, 
mission complete, back in local area, request landing instructions," 
response was always,
"Fly out your time."  If you called in and said, for example, "Mission 
complete, landing in 10 minutes, request parking, and transport" 
response was, "Roger that, parking Bravo 4, transport en rote."


Wilton

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I took Strangelove with a large grain of salt, as my Dad liked to 
point out procedural stuff in it that would have never happened.  Dad 
did say that the bomber crews in WWII often wrote on the bombs with 
chalk, in many cases things that were not appropriate for family hour 
(he was a B-29 flight engineer in a reconnaissance wing, but was 
stationed with a bomber group.)


It is one of my favorite movies, more so due to it being a Kubrick 
film and the dark humor than anything else. And George C. Scott, who 
was revered in my household when I was growing up as the 
representation of a "real man".


“But-but-but they’ll see the big board!”

Dan


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<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


No.  Strangelove was fiction BS taken by too many as fact. Mine was 
real life.   ;<)


Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...



While watching the WGA’s top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:

Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the warheads/bombs like 
they did in Dr. Strangelove?


Just curious…

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631

Dan
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[MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  The big 
board was real, and I have seen it at SAC HQ, at Offutt AFB, NE.  I also 
understand the significance of it.  I'm sure that even I was noted on the 
board in some manner many times.  Each unit also had its "big board" in the 
unit command post.


I also held and studied many times targeting books like the one Scott 
clutched to his chest.


BTW, the term heard most from the command post was probably, "Stand by." 
Well, that's what we "lovingly" kidded them about, anyway.


Another, if you called in and said, for example, "--- Call sign, mission 
complete, back in local area, request landing instructions," response was 
always,
"Fly out your time."  If you called in and said, for example, "Mission 
complete, landing in 10 minutes, request parking, and transport" response 
was, "Roger that, parking Bravo 4, transport en rote."


Wilton

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I took Strangelove with a large grain of salt, as my Dad liked to point out 
procedural stuff in it that would have never happened.  Dad did say that 
the bomber crews in WWII often wrote on the bombs with chalk, in many cases 
things that were not appropriate for family hour (he was a B-29 flight 
engineer in a reconnaissance wing, but was stationed with a bomber group.)


It is one of my favorite movies, more so due to it being a Kubrick film 
and the dark humor than anything else. And George C. Scott, who was 
revered in my household when I was growing up as the representation of a 
"real man".


“But-but-but they’ll see the big board!”

Dan


On Nov 14, 2015, at 12:58 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:


No.  Strangelove was fiction BS taken by too many as fact.  Mine was 
real life.   ;<)


Wilton

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While watching the WGA’s top 7 movie scenes, I wondered:

Did you ever write stuff on the outside of the warheads/bombs like they 
did in Dr. Strangelove?


Just curious…

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-7-funniest-movies-of-all-time-1742354631

Dan
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