Re: [MBZ] Andrew wants one of these? Mercedes-Benz ML 250 Bluetec 4 matic Diesel - $16, 999 (Greenville)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Mine is black/black with 50k fewer miles, and fewer high end options, for
$000s less.

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> https://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/d/aurora-mercedes-benz-ml-250-bluetec/7728373903.html
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[MBZ] Andrew wants one of these? Mercedes-Benz ML 250 Bluetec 4 matic Diesel - $16, 999 (Greenville)

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https://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/d/aurora-mercedes-benz-ml-250-bluetec/7728373903.html

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz r-class R 320 CDI Sport Wagon 4D, $5, 000

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No thanks.  Disappointing fuel economy.

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> Price is high and minimal pics
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[MBZ] Andrew needs this -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz r-class R 320 CDI Sport Wagon 4D, $5, 000

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Price is high and minimal pics

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[MBZ] Andrew wanted one in boxes 1929 Mercedes-Benz Kit car · Convertible

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Took on trade a 1929 Mercedes kit car.
I received what I think is everything to put together in crates.
5 new rims/grill/lights/seat covers& padding and much more that goes with the 
car.all I received was bill of sale may has paperwork in the crates not sure 
selling as is. Will make a great project .

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[MBZ] Andrew gopher it -- convertible needs hydraulic fluid. OBO. 2002 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class SLK 320 Roadster 2D, $2, 500

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CLK doesn't look half bad

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this one Mercedes GL350 diesel 2011

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It's possible it's a fake ad. It appeared the car was locked and the 
person taking the pictures didn't have the keys.

Overpriced for a ten year old ML anyway, as far as I'm concerned.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

"This posting is being held for review" and you should refresh your
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this one Mercedes GL350 diesel 2011

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"This posting is being held for review" and you should refresh your
browser.  Didn't work...

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> In bland woman realtor colors
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> Mercedes GL350 diesel 2011 - $14750
>
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-mercedes-gl350-diesel-2011/7146307078.html
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> Still running great, but selling because I don’t want to deal or fix the
> following problems that are popping up on the dashboard
> - Brake wear
> - Lift Malfunction
> - Check engine light
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[MBZ] Andrew needs this one Mercedes GL350 diesel 2011

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   In bland woman realtor colors


   Mercedes GL350 diesel 2011 - $14750

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-mercedes-gl350-diesel-2011/7146307078.html

Still running great, but selling because I don’t want to deal or fix the 
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- Brake wear
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs a V12

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By golly, you're right, that's a Bentley Phaeton:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15132478/

I'm pretty sure that when it comes to smoothness, two straight sixes beat 3 
straight fours. 

Mitch. 

> On April 17, 2019 at 1:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Actually I think that is the VW W12
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs a V12

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Actually I think that is the VW W12

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On 4/16/19 1:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.copart.com/lot/27272379

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs a V12

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I would only consider an M class Bluetec at this point, or an EV.

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> Jump on this instead:
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> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-S-Class-600-SEL-Sedan/303128458070?hash=item4693dd3356:g:T8oAAOSwLOZctqfM
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs a V12

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Jump on this instead:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-S-Class-600-SEL-Sedan/303128458070?hash=item4693dd3356:g:T8oAAOSwLOZctqfM

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew should go big

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Pre Bluetec? No badge on the hatch.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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Yes I commuted on I95  in my 240D for several years. I described it as,my
middle lane car as it would do  80mph the whole 60 miles each way. When I
got my 90 300D 2.5t  I used left lane @ 85+ mph. I like to joke about my
240D's but wish I had another one right  now.

Dwight Giles Jr
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 9:17 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> no.  #1 son and mama got a ticket for going 82 in the 110 1966 200D.  A
> 240D can go at least as fast.
>
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 4/2/19 11:00 AM:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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no.  #1 son and mama got a ticket for going 82 in the 110 1966 200D.  A 
240D can go at least as fast.


Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 4/2/19 11:00 AM:

That is top speed for a 240D.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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Curley wrote:
> That sez Mao all over it.   Mao needs it!

True, Mao needs it but Mao already has '84 manual 240D which puts it
in EuroImport territory since 240D did not get to USA in 1984?
tin aka Mao

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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Get a jug of bluejuice and rig up a veggie setup to dispense the bj into 
the fuel or exhaust system, you'll be as good as some of the bodges the 
123 guys are doing, and about as valid


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On 4/2/19 3:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I Guess I could convert it to Bluetec...

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:01 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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That is top speed for a 240D.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 11:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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That is the new green plan mandated speed limit for the greater DC
area.  You will seldom exceed it due to traffic congestion.

--FT

On 4/2/19 11:29 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

What is the red barber pole shading between 50 and 60 km/h?

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:48 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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Yes, that is nice.  Impervious to EMP so Andrew can bug out of WDC

when

the

big one goes up.

Idle control knob is broken off flush on the dash, and no pictures of

the

engine, but definitely worth a look.  Price is a little steep, knock

off a

grand or so and that would be a good deal.


-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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I Guess I could convert it to Bluetec...

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> That is top speed for a 240D.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 11:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
>
> > That is the new green plan mandated speed limit for the greater DC
> > area.  You will seldom exceed it due to traffic congestion.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 4/2/19 11:29 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > > What is the red barber pole shading between 50 and 60 km/h?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:48 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes, that is nice.  Impervious to EMP so Andrew can bug out of WDC
> when
> > the
> > >> big one goes up.
> > >>
> > >> Idle control knob is broken off flush on the dash, and no pictures of
> > the
> > >> engine, but definitely worth a look.  Price is a little steep, knock
> > off a
> > >> grand or so and that would be a good deal.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >> Max
> > >> Charleston SC
> > >>
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That is top speed for a 240D.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 11:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> That is the new green plan mandated speed limit for the greater DC
> area.  You will seldom exceed it due to traffic congestion.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/2/19 11:29 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > What is the red barber pole shading between 50 and 60 km/h?
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:48 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, that is nice.  Impervious to EMP so Andrew can bug out of WDC when
> the
> >> big one goes up.
> >>
> >> Idle control knob is broken off flush on the dash, and no pictures of
> the
> >> engine, but definitely worth a look.  Price is a little steep, knock
> off a
> >> grand or so and that would be a good deal.
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
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That is the new green plan mandated speed limit for the greater DC 
area.  You will seldom exceed it due to traffic congestion.


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On 4/2/19 11:29 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

What is the red barber pole shading between 50 and 60 km/h?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yes, that is nice.  Impervious to EMP so Andrew can bug out of WDC when the
big one goes up.

Idle control knob is broken off flush on the dash, and no pictures of the
engine, but definitely worth a look.  Price is a little steep, knock off a
grand or so and that would be a good deal.


-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What is the red barber pole shading between 50 and 60 km/h?

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> Yes, that is nice.  Impervious to EMP so Andrew can bug out of WDC when the
> big one goes up.
>
> Idle control knob is broken off flush on the dash, and no pictures of the
> engine, but definitely worth a look.  Price is a little steep, knock off a
> grand or so and that would be a good deal.
>
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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Yes, that is nice.  Impervious to EMP so Andrew can bug out of WDC when the
big one goes up.

Idle control knob is broken off flush on the dash, and no pictures of the
engine, but definitely worth a look.  Price is a little steep, knock off a
grand or so and that would be a good deal.


-
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

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Maybe he'll get it and donate it to Mao.

Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 4/1/19 10:15 PM:

yup

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs to hop on this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That sez Mao all over it.   Mao needs it!

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https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/d/fredericksburg-mercedes-benz/6833060006.html

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yup

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew

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Oh, the answer is no.  But thanks for asking.

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> It’s what they use in DC area
>
> Seriously though that is not a bad looking car, guy would probably take
> $300 to unload it. Might just need filters and some purge and trans fluid
> change then drive the hell out of it. Kleb could give it to his wife.
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> > Doesn't look like it.
> >
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> > the Crypt?
> > -
> > Max
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 2:25 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Is it a turbo?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:27 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Pick this thing up, so Max can rescue it.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew

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It’s what they use in DC area

Seriously though that is not a bad looking car, guy would probably take $300 to 
unload it. Might just need filters and some purge and trans fluid change then 
drive the hell out of it. Kleb could give it to his wife. 

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> Doesn't look like it.
> 
> You'll have to pay in crypto-currency.  Is that something from Tales from
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> -
> Max
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> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 2:25 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Is it a turbo?
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:27 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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>> 
>>> 
>>> Pick this thing up, so Max can rescue it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Doesn't look like it.

You'll have to pay in crypto-currency.  Is that something from Tales from
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Is it a turbo?

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Pick this thing up, so Max can rescue it.

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-300-project-or/6684629164.html

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs a blue V12

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Possibly, but there's two weeks to go on the bidding. 
It's a rather esoteric car for my part of rural Michigan, but you never know 
when some bidder from Lebanon will run it up over $20k. 
I almost bought a Cayenne Turbo for about $4-5k last spring, but it was over 
ten years old. 
Mitch.
> On September 13, 2018 at 11:28 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> It's worth $93k if perfect.  Would they take 1/20 of that?
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It's worth $93k if perfect.  Would they take 1/20 of that?

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>
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> > For $2-3k, you could have a custom shop make you a fiberglass or carbon
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You need to jump on that

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For $2-3k, you could have a custom shop make you a fiberglass or carbon front 
bumper and grille.

https://www.copart.com/lot/43110988

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For $2-3k, you could have a custom shop make you a fiberglass or carbon front 
bumper and grille. 

https://www.copart.com/lot/43110988

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this

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Mitch, while I appreciate the association with that magnificent automobile,
I don't have room in my garage just now...

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> > On July 18, 2018 at 11:23 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On July 18, 2018 at 11:23 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't mind tooling around in one of those ...
> 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph_suNz9oWs

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> > > [img]https://i.imgur.com/wd82mtB.jpg[/img]
>
> It's just a picture I found. 
> For some reason it made me think of Andrew. 
> I suspect under 1/4 million, but I could be wrong. 

It is a nice looking car!

I wouldn't mind tooling around in one of those ...


Craig

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> On July 18, 2018 at 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 18:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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> 
> > [img]https://i.imgur.com/wd82mtB.jpg[/img]
> 
> Is it for sale?
> 
> How high in the six-figures would it sell?

It's just a picture I found. 
For some reason it made me think of Andrew. 
I suspect under 1/4 million, but I could be wrong. 

Mitch.

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 18:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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> [img]https://i.imgur.com/wd82mtB.jpg[/img]

Is it for sale?

How high in the six-figures would it sell?


Craig

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[img]https://i.imgur.com/wd82mtB.jpg[/img]

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this

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You gotta be kidding.  I don't need another CA version TD.

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> What a parade vehicle for Oktoberfest.
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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What a parade vehicle for Oktoberfest.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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1985 TD:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew Missed His Chance...

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Where have you been?  I already pigeonholed this for Kurley as a serious
upgrade to his firepower arsenal.

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> You should have bid, man…
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1944-stuart-m5a1/?utm_
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You should have bid, man…

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1944-stuart-m5a1/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-06-01

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this

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Thanks for listening. Anything in that color I want.

On May 11, 2018 12:15 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
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> Absolutely has "Andrew" all over it... even a good color for him Fuel
> mileage for driving to work, however might be an issue...
>
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> > Couldn't find a moose.
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs this

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Absolutely has "Andrew" all over it... even a good color for him Fuel
mileage for driving to work, however might be an issue...

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> Couldn't find a moose.
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[MBZ] Andrew needs this

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Hey, it's Friday, right?
Couldn't find a moose. 

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew wants this

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Thanks, Mitch.  Helpful to know.

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>
> I ended up at the yard this morning to bid on a parts car, so I took a
> look at the Eldorado convertible. Definitely a project car, but rust free.
> No back window, 3" of water in a tarp that fell in through the hole.
> It just sold for $3500 plus fees. Was $1850 when the auction opened.
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew wants this

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I ended up at the yard this morning to bid on a parts car, so I took a look at 
the Eldorado convertible. Definitely a project car, but rust free. No back 
window, 3" of water in a tarp that fell in through the hole. 
It just sold for $3500 plus fees. Was $1850 when the auction opened.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew wants this

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> On October 5, 2017 at 11:53 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does one assume that it neither runs nor drives?  Has a defective/salvage
> title?


I'm thinking somebody didn't want it after her husband died. She's probably 
been trying to get him to sell it for the past 20 years. 

Probably runs and drives, but since they cleaned/enhanced it, the listing says 
enhanced instead of runs and drives guarantee. If it didn't run and drive, I'd 
assume they would list damage - mechanical. 

MI - CERTIFICATE OF TITLE = normal clean title.
Donated Vehicle 
Primary Damage: NORMAL WEAR
Secondary Damage: MINOR DENT/SCRATCHES

Primary Damage: NORMAL WEAR

In all seriousness, do you want me to look at it this afternoon?
It'll take me a couple of hours, so I'm not doing it just for fun. 
It's currently $825, so it's already over $1000 after fees, and it'll cost 
another thousand or so to haul it to Maryland. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 
final bid price around $2000, which is about $2800 out the door plus towing 
charges and restoration. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew wants this

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Does one assume that it neither runs nor drives?  Has a defective/salvage
title?

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> Go for it!
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Oct 5, 2017, at 12:15 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eldo convertible, penultimate model year...if I can snag it for less
> than $1000, do you want it?
> > https://www.copart.com/lot/41609137
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew wants this

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Go for it!

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 12:15 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Eldo convertible, penultimate model year...if I can snag it for less than 
> $1000, do you want it?
> https://www.copart.com/lot/41609137
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[MBZ] Andrew wants this

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Eldo convertible, penultimate model year...if I can snag it for less than 
$1000, do you want it?
https://www.copart.com/lot/41609137

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew - here is the 380SL you've been looking for

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I love this statement:  "This car sold new for $44k, which is equal to
$100k in today's money."

By  that measure, the Chevy Chevette I purchased in 12/75 for $3600 is now
worth about $15,000 or more, depending on your inflator. No pun intended.

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> https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/d/euro-mercedes-benz-
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> Price is decent!
> -
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[MBZ] Andrew - here is the 380SL you've been looking for

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https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/d/euro-mercedes-benz-sl-tops/6221031946.html

Price is decent!
-
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew needs a Bentley to work on...

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Even if they were free I couldn't afford them.

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[MBZ] Andrew needs a Bentley to work on...

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http://bringatrailer.com/2017/06/24/two-for-8500-obo-1990-bentley-turbo-r-projects/

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew Needs These

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I personally find them offensive. US bumpers are way nicer.  Where's your
patriotism?

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> New Yuro bumpers for 123 wagon.  $3500 or so
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> December 15, 2016 at 9:29 PM
>> Error.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> http://tinyurl.com/hlcqpr7 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew Needs These

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New Yuro bumpers for 123 wagon.  $3500 or so


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
December 15, 2016 at 9:29 PM
Error.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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December 15, 2016 at 6:55 PM
http://tinyurl.com/hlcqpr7 

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew Needs These

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Error.

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> http://tinyurl.com/hlcqpr7 
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[MBZ] Andrew Needs These

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http://tinyurl.com/hlcqpr7 

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew can't make new subject lines or trim posts

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Works like a charm!  I can't thank you enough.  Very few 85 wagons for sale
anywhere, across the USA and none as nice as mine.  Prices are dirt cheap.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:23:44 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Not anymore. Craigslist doesn't want that so they block anybody who
> > tries it... -Curt
>
>
> www.searchtempest.com
>
> Tried it just now -- works.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
> >  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:16 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] CCFNN current headline
> >
> > Does anyone know the website to search on Craigslist nationwide?
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew can't make new subject lines or trim posts

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:23:44 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Not anymore. Craigslist doesn't want that so they block anybody who
> tries it... -Curt


www.searchtempest.com

Tried it just now -- works.


Craig


>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
>  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:16 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] CCFNN current headline
>
> Does anyone know the website to search on Craigslist nationwide?  

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew can't make new subject lines or trim posts

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Google search 
site:craigslist.org Mercedes 600SEL

> On November 19, 2016 at 5:23 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not anymore. Craigslist doesn't want that so they block anybody who tries
> it...
> -Curt
> 
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
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>  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:16 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] CCFNN current headline
>
> Does anyone know the website to search on Craigslist nationwide?  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew can't make new subject lines or trim posts

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Not anymore. Craigslist doesn't want that so they block anybody who tries it...
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] CCFNN current headline
   
Does anyone know the website to search on Craigslist nationwide?  


   
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[MBZ] Andrew takes a leak WAS: Today's Fun

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Well done.  The radiator on my 1985 300TS has a small unrepairable leak.
Should I swap in a good used OEM radiator or buy a new aftermarket one?


Yes

Or try some barrs leak

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Life is unfair.


On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
>
>> 8' ceiling is too low for storing too cars on top of each other.  I'm at
>> 10.5' and not sure if it'll work (unless I store SLs).
>>
>> This seems to be popular for a two post at home:
>> http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212083
>>
>
> At least with a two post you only have to clear the tires (which will be
> hanging low). With a four post drive on lift, you have to clear the lift
> structure that the tires of the top car are sitting on.
> Parking the top car on a drive-on lift would be a hassle.
> Parking the top car on a two post lift would be a bigger hassle.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

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You just saved me $1700- thanks!


On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> 8' ceiling is too low for storing too cars on top of each other.  I'm at
> 10.5' and not sure if it'll work (unless I store SLs).
>
> This seems to be popular for a two post at home:
> http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212083
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > Wonder whether this works with an 8' ceiling.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
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> > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > >
> > >> That is  totally droolworthy, if only I had the space...
> > >>
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> > > http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/Car-Storage-Lifts-s/389.htm
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

[Mitch Haley]

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

8' ceiling is too low for storing too cars on top of each other.  I'm at
10.5' and not sure if it'll work (unless I store SLs).

This seems to be popular for a two post at home:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212083


At least with a two post you only have to clear the tires (which will be hanging 
low). With a four post drive on lift, you have to clear the lift structure that 
the tires of the top car are sitting on.

Parking the top car on a drive-on lift would be a hassle.
Parking the top car on a two post lift would be a bigger hassle.

Mitch.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

[Jaime Kopchinski]

8' ceiling is too low for storing too cars on top of each other.  I'm at
10.5' and not sure if it'll work (unless I store SLs).

This seems to be popular for a two post at home:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212083

Jaime



On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Wonder whether this works with an 8' ceiling.
>
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
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> > Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
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> >> That is  totally droolworthy, if only I had the space...
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

[Mitch Haley]

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Wonder whether this works with an 8' ceiling.


Probably, if one car is 4' high and the other is 3' high.
Or if you have a pair of Ford GT40s. (40 was the height of the car in inches)

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

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Wonder whether this works with an 8' ceiling.


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> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> That is  totally droolworthy, if only I had the space...
>>
>
> http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/Car-Storage-Lifts-s/389.htm
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

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Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

That is  totally droolworthy, if only I had the space...


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew!!!

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That is  totally droolworthy, if only I had the space...


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> A 1985 300TD close by:
>
> http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/4450466531.html
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[MBZ] Andrew!!!

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A 1985 300TD close by:

http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/4450466531.html

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Peter Frederick]

The 85 W123 in California had the Trap Oxidizer.  The 49 state cars  
did not, although it's possible a few did.  Some had the new style  
injection pumps too, in both places, but this is by chassis number,  
not by year.


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

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Thanks - they are hard to find.  I will probably drive over to Meinecke and
ask them to bypass the TO with a pipe once I replace the turbo


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

>
> *From: *Andrew Strasfogel
> *Sent: *Monday, April 14, 2014 10:18 AM
> *To: *Mercedes Discussion List
> *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List
> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD
>
> I don't think they outfited catalysts on 1985 models
>
> They didn't. When you bought the CA engine, you should've listened to the
> list consensus and left the doggone T/O off. Hind sight is 20/20. Time for
> a turbo, and correct bits to make it a 49 state car. I will be searching
> the local PnP in the next week or so. When I do, if I see parts you may
> need, I will gather them.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

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From: Andrew StrasfogelSent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:18 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TDI don't think they outfited catalysts on 1985 modelsThey didn't. When you bought the CA engine, you should've listened to the list consensus and left the doggone T/O off. Hind sight is 20/20. Time for a turbo, and correct bits to make it a 49 state car. I will be searching the local PnP in the next week or so. When I do, if I see parts you may need, I will gather them. 
Rick 


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

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I don't think they outfited catalysts on 1985 models.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> If the dealer service advisor runs the CAR VIN he will realize the work
>> hasn't been done, but also that this is a 49 state version 300TD.
>>
>> If he runs the ENGINE VIN he will realize that the campaign was
>> consummated
>> in the 90s, in VA.
>>
>
> So if the car shipped without a T/O, and the engine shipped with a T/O
> which MBZUSA switched to a catalyst in the 1990s, how did the car get a T/O
> in it?
> Or did the 49 state cars have Trap Oxidizers too?
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Mitch Haley]

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

If the dealer service advisor runs the CAR VIN he will realize the work
hasn't been done, but also that this is a 49 state version 300TD.

If he runs the ENGINE VIN he will realize that the campaign was consummated
in the 90s, in VA.


So if the car shipped without a T/O, and the engine shipped with a T/O which 
MBZUSA switched to a catalyst in the 1990s, how did the car get a T/O in it?

Or did the 49 state cars have Trap Oxidizers too?

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel]

If the dealer service advisor runs the CAR VIN he will realize the work
hasn't been done, but also that this is a 49 state version 300TD.

If he runs the ENGINE VIN he will realize that the campaign was consummated
in the 90s, in VA.

Solution:  Bribe the service rep with a jar of 2012 vintage pepper jelly..


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

> I think that Andrew's concern is that the dealer will run the VIN, and the
> VIN will show that the campaign-covered work was already performed, and
> then Andrew will have some 'splanin to do...
>
> If I wanted to keep a relationship with that dealer, I wouldn't want to
> have to do any 'splanin...
> --
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> Charleston, SC
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Dan Penoff 
> Sent: April 13, 2014 5:36:04 PM EDT
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD
>
> My thoughts exactly.  Unless there was something unusual about the engine
> I can't imagine them going to the trouble of trying to read the engine
> serial number.  If it's like the M119 it's pretty much impossible to get to
> in frame.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2014, at 5:31 PM, OK Don wrote:
>
> > Isn't the engine s/n stamped on the block below the head at the rear of
> the
> > engine (I could be thinking of the M117)? They're more likely to look for
> > the engine s/n by cross referencing to the chassis s/n.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Max Dillon]

I think that Andrew's concern is that the dealer will run the VIN, and the VIN 
will show that the campaign-covered work was already performed, and then Andrew 
will have some 'splanin to do...

If I wanted to keep a relationship with that dealer, I wouldn't want to have to 
do any 'splanin...
-- 
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Charleston, SC


 Original Message 
From: Dan Penoff 
Sent: April 13, 2014 5:36:04 PM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

My thoughts exactly.  Unless there was something unusual about the engine I 
can't imagine them going to the trouble of trying to read the engine serial 
number.  If it's like the M119 it's pretty much impossible to get to in frame.

Dan


On Apr 13, 2014, at 5:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

> Isn't the engine s/n stamped on the block below the head at the rear of the
> engine (I could be thinking of the M117)? They're more likely to look for
> the engine s/n by cross referencing to the chassis s/n.
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

My thoughts exactly.  Unless there was something unusual about the engine I 
can't imagine them going to the trouble of trying to read the engine serial 
number.  If it's like the M119 it's pretty much impossible to get to in frame.

Dan


On Apr 13, 2014, at 5:31 PM, OK Don wrote:

> Isn't the engine s/n stamped on the block below the head at the rear of the
> engine (I could be thinking of the M117)? They're more likely to look for
> the engine s/n by cross referencing to the chassis s/n.
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[OK Don]

Isn't the engine s/n stamped on the block below the head at the rear of the
engine (I could be thinking of the M117)? They're more likely to look for
the engine s/n by cross referencing to the chassis s/n.


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

> why would you give them a VIN that's different than the one they can see
> on the chassis? that would seem to invite questions... i'd have them check
> the one on the car, not the motor, especially if you don't know if either
> was ever part of the Campaign.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> On 13/Apr/14 06:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>
>>  It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless
>>> something got in there and buggered it.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/12/14 11:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>>
>>>  I can understand, since in transplanting a drive train or engine some
 parts
 of the assembly can easily get damaged.


 On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, ernest breakfield <
 erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

is that what the dealer told you when asked? interesting; but
 we're

> not talking about a warranty, we're talking about a "Campaign" (which
> is
> what MBZ did instead of letting it get to a formal "Recall").
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> On 12/Apr/14 11:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>   The warranty only applies if the engine matches the VIN. Mine
> doesn't.
>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM, ernest breakfield <
>> erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:
>>
>>i would certainly ask, before guessing what they might do; if "my
>> local
>>
>>  dealer" were unwilling to do Campaign service work that MBZ was
>>> paying
>>> them
>>> for, they would not be my dealer for long.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/Apr/14 10:46, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>>
>>>I doubt my local dealer (Euro Motorcars) would be willing to do
>>> anything
>>>
>>>  of
 the sort.



 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM, ernest breakfield <
 erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

 actually, what happened with the '85 300Ds was that MBZ did (at
 least) 2

   separate "Campaigns" where they replaced the Trap Oxidizers with

> something
> else; the last one i'm familiar with replaces it with a
> W126-numbered
> part
> that seems to be nothing other than a Catalytic Convertor.
> the campaigns were at no cost to the owners; it might be
> worth
> checking to see if they're still in effect, as the last one i took
> advantage of was already ~10 years ago.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
> On 09/Apr/14 19:29, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> ---
>
>  Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 14:57:27 -0400
>
>>   From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
>>
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
>>>
>>> Needs a replacement turbocharger.
>>>
>>> Because the trap oxidizer cooked it
>>>
>>>   Like I said a couple days ago...
>>>
>> And you though we were all full of beans when we (several list
>> members)
>> said to do away with the T/O.  MBUSA did away with them in a
>> recall/TSB.
>> Why keep it?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew doesn't ever whine - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I was a serial user of MBNA roadside for years before they caught on...


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

> It used to be really free. I had them come for my 79 240D in 2004 and I was
> the nth owner.  They did try to sell me a battery though.
> On Apr 13, 2014 10:05 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" 
> wrote:
>
> > That was a joke. They only offer free RA to owners who spend at least
> $100
> > annually at the local dealership. That leaves me out...
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > > And that's an issue?  If so, buy a AAA membership.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I could be blacklisted from their Roadside Assistance program...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I would.  Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get
> to.
> > > >> Feign ignorance.  What's the worst thing that could happen?
> > > >>
> > > >> Dan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's
> > > VIN...
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

I would agree with this as well. If you gave them a different VIN they would 
immediately begin suspecting something fishy, I would think.

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>  wrote:
> 
> why would you give them a VIN that's different than the one they can see on 
> the chassis? that would seem to invite questions... i'd have them check the 
> one on the car, not the motor, especially if you don't know if either was 
> ever part of the Campaign.
> 
> 
> cheers!

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

True, but it's an easy "out" for the dealer to avoid having to do campaign or 
warranty work, which is about the least profitable job in the shop.

Not to mention that they can get stuck with the job if the claim gets denied by 
MBUSA.  If there is anything in the past that shows the numbers don't match it 
could certainly be a basis for rejecting the claim.

Dan who used to review warranty claims for a manufacturer.

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> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas 
>  wrote:
> 
> It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless 
> something got in there and buggered it.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 4/12/14 11:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> I can understand, since in transplanting a drive train or engine some parts
>> of the assembly can easily get damaged.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, ernest breakfield <
>> erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> is that what the dealer told you when asked? interesting; but we're
>>> not talking about a warranty, we're talking about a "Campaign" (which is
>>> what MBZ did instead of letting it get to a formal "Recall").
>>> 
>>> 
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12/Apr/14 11:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
 The warranty only applies if the engine matches the VIN. Mine doesn't.
 
 
 On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM, ernest breakfield <
 erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:
 
  i would certainly ask, before guessing what they might do; if "my local
> dealer" were unwilling to do Campaign service work that MBZ was paying
> them
> for, they would not be my dealer for long.
> 
> 
> cheers!
> e
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[ernest breakfield]

why would you give them a VIN that's different than the one they can see 
on the chassis? that would seem to invite questions... i'd have them 
check the one on the car, not the motor, especially if you don't know if 
either was ever part of the Campaign.



cheers!
e

On 13/Apr/14 06:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN...


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless
something got in there and buggered it.

--R


On 4/12/14 11:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


I can understand, since in transplanting a drive train or engine some
parts
of the assembly can easily get damaged.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

   is that what the dealer told you when asked? interesting; but we're

not talking about a warranty, we're talking about a "Campaign" (which is
what MBZ did instead of letting it get to a formal "Recall").


cheers!
e


On 12/Apr/14 11:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

  The warranty only applies if the engine matches the VIN. Mine doesn't.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

   i would certainly ask, before guessing what they might do; if "my
local


dealer" were unwilling to do Campaign service work that MBZ was paying
them
for, they would not be my dealer for long.


cheers!
e


On 10/Apr/14 10:46, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

   I doubt my local dealer (Euro Motorcars) would be willing to do
anything


of
the sort.



On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

actually, what happened with the '85 300Ds was that MBZ did (at
least) 2

  separate "Campaigns" where they replaced the Trap Oxidizers with

something
else; the last one i'm familiar with replaces it with a W126-numbered
part
that seems to be nothing other than a Catalytic Convertor.
the campaigns were at no cost to the owners; it might be worth
checking to see if they're still in effect, as the last one i took
advantage of was already ~10 years ago.


cheers!
e

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---

 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 14:57:27 -0400

  From: astrasfo...@gmail.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD

Needs a replacement turbocharger.

Because the trap oxidizer cooked it

  Like I said a couple days ago...

And you though we were all full of beans when we (several list
members)
said to do away with the T/O.  MBUSA did away with them in a
recall/TSB.
Why keep it?

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew doesn't ever whine - W123 300TD

[Dwight Giles]

It used to be really free. I had them come for my 79 240D in 2004 and I was
the nth owner.  They did try to sell me a battery though.
On Apr 13, 2014 10:05 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> That was a joke. They only offer free RA to owners who spend at least $100
> annually at the local dealership. That leaves me out...
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > And that's an issue?  If so, buy a AAA membership.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > > I could be blacklisted from their Roadside Assistance program...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would.  Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get to.
> > >> Feign ignorance.  What's the worst thing that could happen?
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's
> > VIN...
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew doesn't ever whine - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel]

That was a joke. They only offer free RA to owners who spend at least $100
annually at the local dealership. That leaves me out...


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> And that's an issue?  If so, buy a AAA membership.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> > I could be blacklisted from their Roadside Assistance program...
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> >> I would.  Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get to.
> >> Feign ignorance.  What's the worst thing that could happen?
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's
> VIN...
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew doesn't ever whine - W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

And that's an issue?  If so, buy a AAA membership.

Dan


On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> I could be blacklisted from their Roadside Assistance program...
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> I would.  Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get to.
>> Feign ignorance.  What's the worst thing that could happen?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN...
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew doesn't ever whine - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I could be blacklisted from their Roadside Assistance program...


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I would.  Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get to.
>  Feign ignorance.  What's the worst thing that could happen?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
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> > Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN...
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff]

I would.  Most o the engine serial numbers are pretty tough to get to.  Feign 
ignorance.  What's the worst thing that could happen?

Dan



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> Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN...


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Yeah, I agree.  I may just play dumb and give them the donor car's VIN...


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless
> something got in there and buggered it.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 4/12/14 11:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> I can understand, since in transplanting a drive train or engine some
>> parts
>> of the assembly can easily get damaged.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, ernest breakfield <
>> erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:
>>
>>   is that what the dealer told you when asked? interesting; but we're
>>> not talking about a warranty, we're talking about a "Campaign" (which is
>>> what MBZ did instead of letting it get to a formal "Recall").
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/Apr/14 11:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>>
>>>  The warranty only applies if the engine matches the VIN. Mine doesn't.


 On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM, ernest breakfield <
 erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

   i would certainly ask, before guessing what they might do; if "my
 local

> dealer" were unwilling to do Campaign service work that MBZ was paying
> them
> for, they would not be my dealer for long.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> On 10/Apr/14 10:46, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>   I doubt my local dealer (Euro Motorcars) would be willing to do
> anything
>
>> of
>> the sort.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM, ernest breakfield <
>> erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:
>>
>>actually, what happened with the '85 300Ds was that MBZ did (at
>> least) 2
>>
>>  separate "Campaigns" where they replaced the Trap Oxidizers with
>>> something
>>> else; the last one i'm familiar with replaces it with a W126-numbered
>>> part
>>> that seems to be nothing other than a Catalytic Convertor.
>>>the campaigns were at no cost to the owners; it might be worth
>>> checking to see if they're still in effect, as the last one i took
>>> advantage of was already ~10 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>>
>>> On 09/Apr/14 19:29, Rick Knoble wrote:
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 14:57:27 -0400

  From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD
>
> Needs a replacement turbocharger.
>
>Because the trap oxidizer cooked it
>
>  Like I said a couple days ago...

 And you though we were all full of beans when we (several list
 members)
 said to do away with the T/O.  MBUSA did away with them in a
 recall/TSB.
 Why keep it?

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew whine - why? W123 300TD

[Rich Thomas]

It would be hard to damage the turbo internals in an engine swap unless 
something got in there and buggered it.


--R


On 4/12/14 11:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I can understand, since in transplanting a drive train or engine some parts
of the assembly can easily get damaged.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:


 is that what the dealer told you when asked? interesting; but we're
not talking about a warranty, we're talking about a "Campaign" (which is
what MBZ did instead of letting it get to a formal "Recall").


cheers!
e


On 12/Apr/14 11:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


The warranty only applies if the engine matches the VIN. Mine doesn't.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

  i would certainly ask, before guessing what they might do; if "my local

dealer" were unwilling to do Campaign service work that MBZ was paying
them
for, they would not be my dealer for long.


cheers!
e

On 10/Apr/14 10:46, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

  I doubt my local dealer (Euro Motorcars) would be willing to do anything

of
the sort.



On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

   actually, what happened with the '85 300Ds was that MBZ did (at
least) 2


separate "Campaigns" where they replaced the Trap Oxidizers with
something
else; the last one i'm familiar with replaces it with a W126-numbered
part
that seems to be nothing other than a Catalytic Convertor.
   the campaigns were at no cost to the owners; it might be worth
checking to see if they're still in effect, as the last one i took
advantage of was already ~10 years ago.


cheers!
e

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   ---


   Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 14:57:27 -0400


From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine whine - why? W123 300TD

Needs a replacement turbocharger.

   Because the trap oxidizer cooked it


Like I said a couple days ago...

And you though we were all full of beans when we (several list
members)
said to do away with the T/O.  MBUSA did away with them in a
recall/TSB.
Why keep it?

Rick

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