Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
I think I remember from working at the dealership, that the stalk that controls all that can go bad. There is a switch inside the wheel that fails and when it goes bad all sorts of things run through it and it causes weird failures. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control My 96 chebby truck has started doing this exact same thing the last week or two, and some occasional wonky buzzing and lights on the instrument cluster, and it cuts out when I change the fan speed or put on the wipers (which are controlled by that same stalk switch). If the switch is on, and I have tried to engage it and it won't, it will then try to cut in which also feels like the engine is missing and it jerks a bit. I'm thinking there is a bad ground or short somewhere that is leaking electrons and messing with the CC brain or actuator or something, whatever is in there. That will be fun to chase down when it warms up a bit. --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:34:24 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mamerepairs.html > > Scroll down about midway to "Additional testing" for the cruise control > diagnoses steps. Thank you! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
Any other electrical issues? How are battery and alternator? Are they up to snuff? Is everything getting good voltage? RB On 18/01/2018 1:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: My 96 chebby truck has started doing this exact same thing the last week or two, and some occasional wonky buzzing and lights on the instrument cluster, and it cuts out when I change the fan speed or put on the wipers (which are controlled by that same stalk switch). If the switch is on, and I have tried to engage it and it won't, it will then try to cut in which also feels like the engine is missing and it jerks a bit. I'm thinking there is a bad ground or short somewhere that is leaking electrons and messing with the CC brain or actuator or something, whatever is in there. That will be fun to chase down when it warms up a bit. --FT On 1/16/18 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: On my 95 E300 early in the summer the cruise control quit working. I swapped in a rebuilt Programa unit I had bought for another 95 that I pulled off the road due to rust. This unit was probably a couple of years old, was not used more than a year. So anyway, cruise worked fine then I started noticing while driving I could feel it dropping out then kick back in right away. Just felt like a little surge. Over the course of a few days it got worse. It then got to the point where it would drop out completely and then sudden kick back in on its own a minute or 2 later. This progressed to dropping out, then kicking back in 10 minutes later, then it just quick working all together. I figured it amp was bad again so I rebuilt the original amp with new caps and resoldered it. I installed it this past weekend and tested the car and it worked. Previously with this original unit it would not kick in at all. Today I drove the car and took it for a 2 hour drive and the cruise worked great. On the way back I started feeling the same surging/dropping out it was doing before. At one point it dropped out for about 5 minutes then kicked back in. After that it worked fine again but sometimes could feel it dropping out for a split second then kick back in. Other times it would go a long time and never do it. So basically its starting to do the same thing the rebuilt Programa unit was doing. I am starting to wonder if there is another issue. Could it be something with the actuator or the speed sensor in the speedo? Maybe its loosing power to the amp, maybe a flaky fuse. I need to check that. --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
My 96 chebby truck has started doing this exact same thing the last week or two, and some occasional wonky buzzing and lights on the instrument cluster, and it cuts out when I change the fan speed or put on the wipers (which are controlled by that same stalk switch). If the switch is on, and I have tried to engage it and it won't, it will then try to cut in which also feels like the engine is missing and it jerks a bit. I'm thinking there is a bad ground or short somewhere that is leaking electrons and messing with the CC brain or actuator or something, whatever is in there. That will be fun to chase down when it warms up a bit. --FT On 1/16/18 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: On my 95 E300 early in the summer the cruise control quit working. I swapped in a rebuilt Programa unit I had bought for another 95 that I pulled off the road due to rust. This unit was probably a couple of years old, was not used more than a year. So anyway, cruise worked fine then I started noticing while driving I could feel it dropping out then kick back in right away. Just felt like a little surge. Over the course of a few days it got worse. It then got to the point where it would drop out completely and then sudden kick back in on its own a minute or 2 later. This progressed to dropping out, then kicking back in 10 minutes later, then it just quick working all together. I figured it amp was bad again so I rebuilt the original amp with new caps and resoldered it. I installed it this past weekend and tested the car and it worked. Previously with this original unit it would not kick in at all. Today I drove the car and took it for a 2 hour drive and the cruise worked great. On the way back I started feeling the same surging/dropping out it was doing before. At one point it dropped out for about 5 minutes then kicked back in. After that it worked fine again but sometimes could feel it dropping out for a split second then kick back in. Other times it would go a long time and never do it. So basically its starting to do the same thing the rebuilt Programa unit was doing. I am starting to wonder if there is another issue. Could it be something with the actuator or the speed sensor in the speedo? Maybe its loosing power to the amp, maybe a flaky fuse. I need to check that. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mamerepairs.html Scroll down about midway to "Additional testing" for the cruise control diagnoses steps. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Do you recall the URL? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:00:11 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I used the CC troubleshooting steps on Jim Cathey's site to test the > actuator, and it was not terribly smooth, so I attributed the behavior > to the actuator. Do you recall the URL? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
My '87 wagon cruise used to do that cut-out then resume thing, felt like an engine miss. It would do it twice in a row shortly after engaging the cruise, and then be fine for hours. I used the CC troubleshooting steps on Jim Cathey's site to test the actuator, and it was not terribly smooth, so I attributed the behavior to the actuator. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e300 cruise control
Check ALL the connectors in the system . . . On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On my 95 E300 early in the summer the cruise control quit working. I > swapped in a rebuilt Programa unit I had bought for another 95 that I > pulled off the road due to rust. This unit was probably a couple of years > old, was not used more than a year. So anyway, cruise worked fine then I > started noticing while driving I could feel it dropping out then kick back > in right away. Just felt like a little surge. Over the course of a few > days it got worse. It then got to the point where it would drop out > completely and then sudden kick back in on its own a minute or 2 later. > This progressed to dropping out, then kicking back in 10 minutes later, > then it just quick working all together. I figured it amp was bad again so > I rebuilt the original amp with new caps and resoldered it. I installed it > this past weekend and tested the car and it worked. Previously with this > original unit it would not kick in at all. Today I drove the car and took > it for a 2 hour drive and the cruise worked great. On the way back I > started feeling the same surging/dropping out it was doing before. At one > point it dropped out for about 5 minutes then kicked back in. After that > it worked fine again but sometimes could feel it dropping out for a split > second then kick back in. Other times it would go a long time and never do > it. So basically its starting to do the same thing the rebuilt Programa > unit was doing. I am starting to wonder if there is another issue. Could > it be something with the actuator or the speed sensor in the speedo? Maybe > its loosing power to the amp, maybe a flaky fuse. I need to check that. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] e300 cruise control
On my 95 E300 early in the summer the cruise control quit working. I swapped in a rebuilt Programa unit I had bought for another 95 that I pulled off the road due to rust. This unit was probably a couple of years old, was not used more than a year. So anyway, cruise worked fine then I started noticing while driving I could feel it dropping out then kick back in right away. Just felt like a little surge. Over the course of a few days it got worse. It then got to the point where it would drop out completely and then sudden kick back in on its own a minute or 2 later. This progressed to dropping out, then kicking back in 10 minutes later, then it just quick working all together. I figured it amp was bad again so I rebuilt the original amp with new caps and resoldered it. I installed it this past weekend and tested the car and it worked. Previously with this original unit it would not kick in at all. Today I drove the car and took it for a 2 hour drive and the cruise worked great. On the way back I started feeling the same surging/dropping out it was doing before. At one point it dropped out for about 5 minutes then kicked back in. After that it worked fine again but sometimes could feel it dropping out for a split second then kick back in. Other times it would go a long time and never do it. So basically its starting to do the same thing the rebuilt Programa unit was doing. I am starting to wonder if there is another issue. Could it be something with the actuator or the speed sensor in the speedo? Maybe its loosing power to the amp, maybe a flaky fuse. I need to check that. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
