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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:48:23 -0600 Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A local MB Dealer owner has a 240/300D that is a blast to drive, but goes through clutches quicker than your normal tranny fluid change. Does it have a turbo engine? My naturally aspirated, stick shift 240D/3.0 works just fine. Craig
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Thanks for all of your input! Have any of you or anyone you kow ever completed the swap from automatic to manual? Just curious. Last week I purchased a 1982 W123 280 gasser due to its price and close proximity. Although the body is rusty, it has a good running straight six complete with dual overhead cams and a factory split manifold exhaust system. Would the automatic transmission out of this car work behind my five cylinder diesel? I would imagine that operating RPMs are similar. Is there a market for this inline six motor? Anybody need one? -Scott
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A local MB Dealer owner has a 240/300D that is a blast to drive, but goes through clutches quicker than your normal tranny fluid change. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:24:09 -0600, BimotaBiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all of your input! Have any of you or anyone you kow ever completed the swap from automatic to manual? Just curious. Last week I purchased a 1982 W123 280 gasser due to its price and close proximity. Although the body is rusty, it has a good running straight six complete with dual overhead cams and a factory split manifold exhaust system. Would the automatic transmission out of this car work behind my five cylinder diesel? I would imagine that operating RPMs are similar. Is there a market for this inline six motor? Anybody need one? -Scott ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
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You want the 300D engine with the 300D differential if you chose to change things around. Others have covered most of the pitfalls. adjusintg the linkage seems like the easiest way out. NO, the Gasser trans is not an interchange for the Diesel Somebody might want a 280 twin cam. Is yours a Euro? At 09:24 PM 1/23/2006, you wrote: Thanks for all of your input! Have any of you or anyone you kow ever completed the swap from automatic to manual? Just curious. Last week I purchased a 1982 W123 280 gasser due to its price and close proximity. Although the body is rusty, it has a good running straight six complete with dual overhead cams and a factory split manifold exhaust system. Would the automatic transmission out of this car work behind my five cylinder diesel? I would imagine that operating RPMs are similar. Is there a market for this inline six motor? Anybody need one? -Scott ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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It looks like the 240D manual tranny will find its way into my 300D. The 280 is in fact a Euro. Too bad the body is not in better shape. It is bright red in color and has the gentleman's name who took delivery of it inside the driver's side door. It also sports the cool cloth interior. I might transpose that to my 300D as well (since it is also a Euro). Anyone for a inline six complete with tranny? -Scott You want the 300D engine with the 300D differential if you chose to change things around. Others have covered most of the pitfalls. adjusintg the linkage seems like the easiest way out. NO, the Gasser trans is not an interchange for the Diesel Somebody might want a 280 twin cam. Is yours a Euro? At 09:24 PM 1/23/2006, you wrote: Thanks for all of your input! Have any of you or anyone you kow ever completed the swap from automatic to manual? Just curious. Last week I purchased a 1982 W123 280 gasser due to its price and close proximity. Although the body is rusty, it has a good running straight six complete with dual overhead cams and a factory split manifold exhaust system. Would the automatic transmission out of this car work behind my five cylinder diesel? I would imagine that operating RPMs are similar. Is there a market for this inline six motor? Anybody need one? -Scott
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You would do best to find a 300d clutch and flywheel. Be sure to mark the position of the flexplate to the crank and to TDC and get the new flywheel balanced to match, The 240D clutch is not made for the torque and HP of a 300D. There are some parts places in Germany on the web. You might be able to get a 300D flywheel from Germany, used. www.dbdepot.de is a source for new, and be sure to talk to Rusty to see what he can get. At 10:10 PM 1/23/2006, you wrote: It looks like the 240D manual tranny will find its way into my 300D. The 280 is in fact a Euro. Too bad the body is not in better shape. It is bright red in color and has the gentleman's name who took delivery of it inside the driver's side door. It also sports the cool cloth interior. I might transpose that to my 300D as well (since it is also a Euro). Anyone for a inline six complete with tranny? -Scott You want the 300D engine with the 300D differential if you chose to change things around. Others have covered most of the pitfalls. adjusintg the linkage seems like the easiest way out. NO, the Gasser trans is not an interchange for the Diesel Somebody might want a 280 twin cam. Is yours a Euro? At 09:24 PM 1/23/2006, you wrote: Thanks for all of your input! Have any of you or anyone you kow ever completed the swap from automatic to manual? Just curious. Last week I purchased a 1982 W123 280 gasser due to its price and close proximity. Although the body is rusty, it has a good running straight six complete with dual overhead cams and a factory split manifold exhaust system. Would the automatic transmission out of this car work behind my five cylinder diesel? I would imagine that operating RPMs are similar. Is there a market for this inline six motor? Anybody need one? -Scott ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Loren Faeth wrote: The 240D clutch is not made for the torque and HP of a 300D. The clutch and pressure plate are the same for Euro 5-cylinder stick diesels as it is for stick 240Ds. The differences are: front halfshaft shift linkages transmission crossmember flywheel And that's it. The flywheel, you can get by with a 240D flywheel. The transmission crossmember problem can be solved by taking the crossmember from an automatic (not manual!) 240D. All that's left is shift linkages (orderable from Germany, was like $60 or so for all three through Rusty last year) and half-shaft (orderable, but pricey). Keep in mind, you'll also need to get the driveshaft rebalanced if you replace or modify the front half. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
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Do you remember where the bidding ended last time? On 1/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1978-MERCEDES-240D-MANUAL-SHIFT_W0QQitemZ4606857457QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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no, check the sellers past auctions LT Don wrote: Do you remember where the bidding ended last time? On 1/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1978-MERCEDES-240D-MANUAL-SHIFT_W0QQitemZ4606857457QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Could I remove the manual tranny from this car and put it into my 300d that currently sports an automatic? I bought the car for a pretty good price knowing it did not shift into high gear. When I got it home and put it up on our lift, I discovered a brand new rebuilt tranny complete with new or rebuilt torque converter. Since I'm not sure how to fix it, I thought about buying on older 240D with a manual tranny and performing the swap. Can this be done? Sincerely, -Scott -- Original Message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:32:05 -0600 no, check the sellers past auctions LT Don wrote: Do you remember where the bidding ended last time? On 1/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1978-MERCEDES-240D-MANUAL-SHIFT_W0QQitemZ4606857457QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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BimotaBiker wrote: Could I remove the manual tranny from this car and put it into my 300d that currently sports an automatic? I bought the car for a pretty good price knowing it did not shift into high gear. When I got it home and put it up on our lift, I discovered a brand new rebuilt tranny complete with new or rebuilt torque converter. Since I'm not sure how to fix it, I thought about buying on older 240D with a manual tranny and performing the swap. Can this be done? Yes, it can be done. It isn't quick, cheap, or easy, but it can be done. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
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the control cable/rod is probalby out of adjustment. BimotaBiker wrote: Could I remove the manual tranny from this car and put it into my 300d that currently sports an automatic? I bought the car for a pretty good price knowing it did not shift into high gear. When I got it home and put it up on our lift, I discovered a brand new rebuilt tranny complete with new or rebuilt torque converter. Since I'm not sure how to fix it, I thought about buying on older 240D with a manual tranny and performing the swap. Can this be done? Sincerely, -Scott -- Original Message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:32:05 -0600 no, check the sellers past auctions LT Don wrote: Do you remember where the bidding ended last time? On 1/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1978-MERCEDES-240D-MANUAL-SHIFT_W0QQitemZ4606857457QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Would it be easier to move the 617 engine to the manual chassis? On 1/23/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BimotaBiker wrote: Could I remove the manual tranny from this car and put it into my 300d that currently sports an automatic? I bought the car for a pretty good price knowing it did not shift into high gear. When I got it home and put it up on our lift, I discovered a brand new rebuilt tranny complete with new or rebuilt torque converter. Since I'm not sure how to fix it, I thought about buying on older 240D with a manual tranny and performing the swap. Can this be done? Yes, it can be done. It isn't quick, cheap, or easy, but it can be done. -- John L. Ervine -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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On Monday, January 23, 2006, at 03:03 PM, BimotaBiker wrote: Could I remove the manual tranny from this car and put it into my 300d that currently sports an automatic? I bought the car for a pretty good price knowing it did not shift into high gear. When I got it home and put it up on our lift, I discovered a brand new rebuilt tranny complete with new or rebuilt torque converter. Since I'm not sure how to fix it, I thought about buying on older 240D with a manual tranny and performing the swap. Can this be done? Sincerely, -Scott Sure it can. You'll want to have the whole car there so you can take all you'll need from it for the conversion. Its more than merely swapping a tranny. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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On Monday, January 23, 2006, at 06:20 PM, OK Don wrote: Would it be easier to move the 617 engine to the manual chassis? I guess it depends on whether you prefer to swap the clutch,trans,shifter,driveshaft, console bits etc or get into an engine swap with some extra work and get into swapping springs and such. I'm sure the overall condition of both cars needs to be considered too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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OK Don wrote: Would it be easier to move the 617 engine to the manual chassis? Define easier. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
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I expect that, like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder --- On 1/23/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Would it be easier to move the 617 engine to the manual chassis? Define easier. -- John L. Ervine -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
