Re: [MBZ] loudness

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I asked my SWMBO about this.  She said the 300TD is indeed loud compared to
her Focus, but not distressingly so.  I myself don't notice it.  The older
diesels I owned (1980 300D) had a disturbing throbbing noise at highway
speeds that I found really upsetting.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A 240D wailing away at max speed (85? I forget now) is kind of loud but I
> never thought I had to yell over the engine. The turbo engines are quieter.
> The 124s have the double firewall and much better sealing of the passenger
> compartment from the engine bay, they're also a lot slipperier through the
> air so theres less wind noise. The 60x engines are much more refined also.
> When I've got someplace to park it for the winter I'll again have a 123,
> they are lovely to live with but honestly from a cheap to keep perspective
> my VWs are tough to beat. The '98 has cost me maybe $3500 total over the
> 2.5 years I've had it and it just crossed 270,000 miles. I think I've put
> almost 40,000 of those on it but I'd have to check my records to be sure.
> Its going in for a tie rod and brake booster tomorrow but that'll be the
> first money I've put into it for like 6 months other than the bi-annual oil
> change I did just after Christmas.
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] loudness
>
> Well yes i agree -my 124 is,quieter than my 123's. I just never thought of
> them as loud. But prior to that the only diesels I drove were fire engines
> with cab over  Detroit  diesels - they were loud.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
> On Jan 17, 2016 6:32 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Every 123 car I have owned I would consider loud on the highway as
> > compared to a 124 or 210 for example.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > i have some 123 cars and i'd say they are pretty loud …. and i do
> adjust
> > valves and mess with injectors from time to time
> > >
> > > i think i may have an exhaust leak …. maybe another failed flex pipe,
> > from the turbo to the pipe …. on my main 300td
> > >
> > > i replaced it with a used part a few years ago
> > >
> > > i need to look, but am waiting until the weather is warmer
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > xx rick
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[MBZ] loudness

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

i have some 123 cars and i'd say they are pretty loud …. and i do adjust valves 
and mess with injectors from time to time

i think i may have an exhaust leak …. maybe another failed flex pipe, from the 
turbo to the pipe …. on my main 300td

i replaced it with a used part a few years ago

i need to look, but am waiting until the weather is warmer

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] loudness

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Do yours go to 11?

--R

On 1/17/16 5:47 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes wrote:

i have some 123 cars and i'd say they are pretty loud …. and i do adjust valves 
and mess with injectors from time to time

i think i may have an exhaust leak …. maybe another failed flex pipe, from the 
turbo to the pipe …. on my main 300td

i replaced it with a used part a few years ago

i need to look, but am waiting until the weather is warmer

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] loudness

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well yes i agree -my 124 is,quieter than my 123's. I just never thought of
them as loud. But prior to that the only diesels I drove were fire engines
with cab over  Detroit  diesels - they were loud.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 17, 2016 6:32 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Every 123 car I have owned I would consider loud on the highway as
> compared to a 124 or 210 for example.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > i have some 123 cars and i'd say they are pretty loud …. and i do adjust
> valves and mess with injectors from time to time
> >
> > i think i may have an exhaust leak …. maybe another failed flex pipe,
> from the turbo to the pipe …. on my main 300td
> >
> > i replaced it with a used part a few years ago
> >
> > i need to look, but am waiting until the weather is warmer
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > xx rick
> > Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] loudness

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Every 123 car I have owned I would consider loud on the highway as compared to 
a 124 or 210 for example.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> i have some 123 cars and i'd say they are pretty loud …. and i do adjust 
> valves and mess with injectors from time to time
> 
> i think i may have an exhaust leak …. maybe another failed flex pipe, from 
> the turbo to the pipe …. on my main 300td
> 
> i replaced it with a used part a few years ago
> 
> i need to look, but am waiting until the weather is warmer
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] loudness

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Well yes i agree -my 124 is,quieter than my 123's. I just never thought of
them as loud. But prior to that the only diesels I drove were fire engines
with cab over  Detroit  diesels - they were loud.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 17, 2016 6:32 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Loudest POS i ever had the misfortune to drive was a frod Diesel 
school bus of about 1980-81.  It was terribly loud and shook like a 
dog killing a snake.  Of the same era IH Diesel busses were smooth 
and quiet.


At idle/stopped, the 110 with OM621 was noisy enough to let you know 
it was a Diesel, but even at 25 MPH, it was quiet.  The 115 was 
better and the 123 Diesel was still more quiet.  Each generation of 
MB Diesels gets more quiet, as do the Diesel pickups, at least when 
they leave the factory.


None are annoyingly noisy nor will they vibrate if all things are in order.

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Re: [MBZ] loudness

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A 240D wailing away at max speed (85? I forget now) is kind of loud but I never 
thought I had to yell over the engine. The turbo engines are quieter.
The 124s have the double firewall and much better sealing of the passenger 
compartment from the engine bay, they're also a lot slipperier through the air 
so theres less wind noise. The 60x engines are much more refined also.
When I've got someplace to park it for the winter I'll again have a 123, they 
are lovely to live with but honestly from a cheap to keep perspective my VWs 
are tough to beat. The '98 has cost me maybe $3500 total over the 2.5 years 
I've had it and it just crossed 270,000 miles. I think I've put almost 40,000 
of those on it but I'd have to check my records to be sure. Its going in for a 
tie rod and brake booster tomorrow but that'll be the first money I've put into 
it for like 6 months other than the bi-annual oil change I did just after 
Christmas.
-Curt
 

  From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] loudness
   
Well yes i agree -my 124 is,quieter than my 123's. I just never thought of
them as loud. But prior to that the only diesels I drove were fire engines
with cab over  Detroit  diesels - they were loud.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 17, 2016 6:32 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Every 123 car I have owned I would consider loud on the highway as
> compared to a 124 or 210 for example.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > i have some 123 cars and i'd say they are pretty loud …. and i do adjust
> valves and mess with injectors from time to time
> >
> > i think i may have an exhaust leak …. maybe another failed flex pipe,
> from the turbo to the pipe …. on my main 300td
> >
> > i replaced it with a used part a few years ago
> >
> > i need to look, but am waiting until the weather is warmer
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > xx rick
> > Rick Hawkins
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