[MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
I think the pump rebuild kits aren't too expensive, but more expensive than a fluid change. After you replace the spheres, change the fluid and watch the color. If engine oil it's contaminating, would the fluid level change? Would the engine oil level change? Easiest way to change the fluid is to direct the return line at the engine compartment to drain into a different container, start the car, and replace the fluid in the reservoir as the level drops. Once the drain line runs clear, with the car off, load up the rear, open the bleed valve and drain out the sphere-side. Be careful as the rear will drop quite a bit. Top up the reservoir, done. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it to be black enough to see from motor oil intrusion, the viscosity ought to be more like motor oil. Is it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
That's *hydroscopic* Darned autocorrect. Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
hydrous optic Hygroscopic? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
Ya gotta love auto correct. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Greg FiorentinoSent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:25 PMTo: 'Mercedes Discussion List'Reply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil hydrous optic Hygroscopic? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the engine and have a liter of the new stuff handy. Fill the reservoir as the level drops and the old stuff fills the container. When it runs clear, shut off the engine and top off the reservoir. You can have someone bounce the rear while you're doing this, but it's not mandatory. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil
...chuckles... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 9:46 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] sls troubles black
thanks, I thought about the pressure keeping potential oil out i haven't felt the oil, but i probably have not had to add any for a year or more it's right in the middle of the reservoir or maybe 60% full the sls fluid is lighter wt than motor oil but i wonder if i could feel the difference mixed in it could be spheres and hoses deteriorating xx rick Rick Hawkins From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Date: April 20, 2014 3:13:27 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it to be black enough to see from motor oil intrusion, the viscosity ought to be more like motor oil. Is it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
