Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-09 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:37:09 -0400, you wrote:

i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we changed
About 15 years ago I put new struts on Wife's Dodge 600. ( piece of
crap car that went about 200Kmi with very little work).  I eyeballed
the alignment and took it to local Sears for final adjustments.

2 or 3 weeks later there is a clunk in Front.  Jack up car, left front
upper strut bolt is loose, not tightened after front end alignment.  I
call Sears with flame coming out my butt.
Young girl answers, can I speak to Manager?  
I'm the service manager. Oh Crap.
I explain situation.
I'll have it towed in.
I ask if I can eyeball align and drive it in for faster service.
If you do that, you will be number one on the rack.
I get there, this little girl puts my car on a lift and tears my left
front suspension apart (Removes spindle!) in about 20 minutes.  Checks
for damage, reassembles and hands off to another tech to do a
Lifetime Alignment.

Thats my story, I'm sticking to it!


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Peter T. Arnold

2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL  280KMI  Inherited by Grandson
1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-09 Thread Tom Hargrave
Peter,

And I'll bet the lady reamed the tech who did the original job after you
left. She did not get to where she was by being cute  female. 

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Tom Hargrave
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:37:09 -0400, you wrote:

i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we changed
About 15 years ago I put new struts on Wife's Dodge 600. ( piece of
crap car that went about 200Kmi with very little work).  I eyeballed
the alignment and took it to local Sears for final adjustments.

2 or 3 weeks later there is a clunk in Front.  Jack up car, left front
upper strut bolt is loose, not tightened after front end alignment.  I
call Sears with flame coming out my butt.
Young girl answers, can I speak to Manager?  
I'm the service manager. Oh Crap.
I explain situation.
I'll have it towed in.
I ask if I can eyeball align and drive it in for faster service.
If you do that, you will be number one on the rack.
I get there, this little girl puts my car on a lift and tears my left
front suspension apart (Removes spindle!) in about 20 minutes.  Checks
for damage, reassembles and hands off to another tech to do a
Lifetime Alignment.

Thats my story, I'm sticking to it!


--

Regards,

Peter T. Arnold

2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL  280KMI  Inherited by Grandson
1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-09 Thread Robert Rentfro

Peter told us:

I get there, this little girl puts my car on a lift and tears my left front
suspension apart (Removes spindle!) in about 20 minutes.  Checks for damage,
reassembles... 

I think I'm in love

Bob R.
Waiting For Rain, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-09 Thread slozukimc
Very nice.  That's the way things should be taken care of.

Mike


 On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:37:09 -0400, you wrote:

i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
 About 15 years ago I put new struts on Wife's Dodge 600. ( piece of
 crap car that went about 200Kmi with very little work).  I eyeballed
 the alignment and took it to local Sears for final adjustments.

 2 or 3 weeks later there is a clunk in Front.  Jack up car, left front
 upper strut bolt is loose, not tightened after front end alignment.  I
 call Sears with flame coming out my butt.
 Young girl answers, can I speak to Manager?
 I'm the service manager. Oh Crap.
 I explain situation.
 I'll have it towed in.
 I ask if I can eyeball align and drive it in for faster service.
 If you do that, you will be number one on the rack.
 I get there, this little girl puts my car on a lift and tears my left
 front suspension apart (Removes spindle!) in about 20 minutes.  Checks
 for damage, reassembles and hands off to another tech to do a
 Lifetime Alignment.

 Thats my story, I'm sticking to it!


 --

 Regards,

 Peter T. Arnold

 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems!
 1987 300SDL  280KMI  Inherited by Grandson
 1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
 Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-09 Thread Luther
I'm in love too.  Bob, if you want some rain, come visit me, or I'll send you 
some.  Our river is way it's dangerous flow rate of 70,000 cfs at 205,000cfs.  
Every other creek has been at full capacity for about a month now, and it's 
still raining today.

Luther

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:11:01 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Peter told us:

 I get there, this little girl puts my car on a lift and tears my left front
 suspension apart (Removes spindle!) in about 20 minutes.  Checks for damage,
 reassembles...

 I think I'm in love

 Bob R.
 Waiting For Rain, AZ







-- 
Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Ahh good old indicator lubricant, what would we do without it. I'm still 
using dino fluid but am thinking of going over to synthetic. Apparently it 
is better for the balance circuit, or equilibrium circuit as some call it, 
and we all know what happens when the blinker fluid gets out of balance.

Anyway, I can't believe I spelt equilibrium right the first time, you know 
how it is, not sure how to spell a word so I'll punch in something I think 
is close to it and let the spell checker do the rest. So unless there is 
another word close to equilibrium I guess I got ityaahy (oooh, 
spell checker didn't like that one)

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 Blinker fluid? I bet I could ask any of the local discount part shops
 for that magic stuff  the clerk would actually try to look it up for me!

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Curt Raymond

Having spent about half my career in Customer Service under the guise of 
technical support I can tell you honestly its worse when you've been in the 
business.
The only tip I can give you is to start every call (as a customer) all peaches 
and cream and keep the sharpened steel under wraps until you need it. Then when 
the steel is needed bring it out slowly, just a peek at first.
All support people I know work under the I give what I get theory. That is 
I'm nice and competant until the customer isn't polite to me, then I suddenly 
lose all will to live and courtesy flies out the window.

Anyway on the subject of Autozone I can tell you its a crapshoot. The one near 
me has one guy for a manager that is such a turkey that I won't talk to him. 
Theres a woman that works there thats totally hotshot, very willing to help, 
won't try to snow you.
Now the Advance Auto in town is new so you think they'd try to put their best 
face forward. Not at all. Lazy incompetant help all over.
Theres a NAPA near work where if you can get past the gruffness of the old guys 
working there is outstanding. Of course everything there is a premium price but 
its the RIGHT PART and it won't fail next week...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:37:09 -0400
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i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
 there
cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
 rude,
mendacious and incompetent.
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Curt,

You hit on something with NAPA. They sell higher quality parts than the
others, probably as a quality as the parts Rusty sells. I just hope that
competition does not bring down their quality. In the mean time, I'll
happily pay 2X, 3X or 4X the other guys price for a hose or belt, with the
understanding that I will not be replacing the part next year.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 7:35 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


Having spent about half my career in Customer Service under the guise of
technical support I can tell you honestly its worse when you've been in the
business.
The only tip I can give you is to start every call (as a customer) all
peaches and cream and keep the sharpened steel under wraps until you need
it. Then when the steel is needed bring it out slowly, just a peek at first.
All support people I know work under the I give what I get theory. That is
I'm nice and competant until the customer isn't polite to me, then I
suddenly lose all will to live and courtesy flies out the window.

Anyway on the subject of Autozone I can tell you its a crapshoot. The one
near me has one guy for a manager that is such a turkey that I won't talk to
him. Theres a woman that works there thats totally hotshot, very willing to
help, won't try to snow you.

Now the Advance Auto in town is new so you think they'd try to put their
best face forward. Not at all. Lazy incompetant help all over.
Theres a NAPA near work where if you can get past the gruffness of the old
guys working there is outstanding. Of course everything there is a premium
price but its the RIGHT PART and it won't fail next week...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:37:09 -0400
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i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
 there
cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
 rude,
mendacious and incompetent.
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread R A Bennell
I suggest that service people often try to hide their ineptitude behind an 
accusation that the customer is being
impolite. I had lunch with my accountant yesterday and he was telling me about 
a recent run-in with the tax
department. They had applied a payment on an account to the future as an 
installment payment instead of to already
outstanding taxes owing. He called to get it straightened out and spoke to some 
dolt who did not seem able to
understand what he wanted them to do. He says he was extremely patient and 
tried a number of times to get the
person to understand what he was telling them. The government employee became 
upset and accused him of being rude.
He says at that point he politely asked what he had said that could be 
construed as rude and suggested that the
truth was that she was being rude to him. She then hung up on him. Got to love 
dealing with the tax man!

Randy

-Original Message- or at least part of it


Having spent about half my career in Customer Service under the guise of 
technical support I can tell you honestly
its worse when you've been in the business.
The only tip I can give you is to start every call (as a customer) all peaches 
and cream and keep the sharpened
steel under wraps until you need it. Then when the steel is needed bring it out 
slowly, just a peek at first.
All support people I know work under the I give what I get theory. That is 
I'm nice and competant until the
customer isn't polite to me, then I suddenly lose all will to live and courtesy 
flies out the window.

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread R A Bennell
I'm not all that familiar with NAPA but I do know that the local parts chain 
that I use generally has about 3
grades of parts readily available. You can get cheap, better or pretty good. 
The cost differential is big between
the cheapest junk and the good stuff. If you ask for the good stuff they are 
happy to sell it to you. I think the
problem is that many places are so accustomed to people wanting the best price 
that they don't always ask if you
want something better and if you don't tell them so, you get the cheap junk. I 
helped a nephew fix his S10 Chevy
truck a couple of years back and he got ball joints that I was reluctant to 
install. It is a bit frightening to
think what might be coming down the road at you.

randy

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 You hit on something with NAPA. They sell higher quality parts than the
 others, probably as a quality as the parts Rusty sells. I just hope that
 competition does not bring down their quality. In the mean time, I'll
 happily pay 2X, 3X or 4X the other guys price for a hose or belt, with the
 understanding that I will not be replacing the part next year.

I thoroughly agree. Several years ago I needed to rebuild the front end on a
3/4 ton Chevy truck. I bought the AZ lifetime warrantee crap. China junk I
'spose. Lasted a year. Never again. I lothe front end work, even with free
parts. Sadly, the NAPA in my town has closed. For all my domestic auto parts
needs I buy from www.rockauto.com . OEM quality parts, delivered quickly.
Obviously, for all of my foriegn auto needs, I turn to Rusty. He can get OEM
quality parts for Asian and European makes.

Rick Knoble
190 dt
300 cd




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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Rick Knoble
 You hit on something with NAPA. They sell higher quality parts than the
 others, probably as a quality as the parts Rusty sells. I just hope that
 competition does not bring down their quality. In the mean time, I'll
 happily pay 2X, 3X or 4X the other guys price for a hose or belt, with the
 understanding that I will not be replacing the part next year.

I thoroughly agree. Several years ago I needed to rebuild the front end on a 
3/4 ton Chevy truck. I bought the AZ lifetime warrantee crap. China junk I 
'spose. Lasted a year. Never again. I lothe front end work, even with free 
parts. Sadly, the NAPA in my town has closed. For all my domestic auto parts 
needs I buy from www.rockauto.com . OEM quality parts, delivered quickly. 
Obviously, for all of my foriegn auto needs, I turn to Rusty. He can get OEM 
quality parts for Asian and European makes.

Rick Knoble
190 dt
300 cd 


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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Gary Hurst
i would take a gates or a goodyear belt just as soon as i'd take a conti
belt.

On 7/5/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the NAPA branded filters are made by WIX, and seem to be a
 notch above Fram and the other junk you find at AZ.  Only other thing
 I've bought at NAPA recently was new fan belts for my 300D ('cause I
 needed them immediately) and they were made in the USA and seemed
 quite good (still in the car, with no problems).

 The thing about NAPA is that, at least locally, the counter people
 seem to be more knowledgeable.  I recognize the faces, too -- at AZ
 it's always somebody new, seems like they must have a lot of turnover.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  NAH..Check it out for yourself..The crap NAPA sells is made
  in friggin China like everything else in this country nowadays.  I
  alaways give the guys at the local NAPA crap about it..I read
  the box to check on almost every part I get.  Rarely do they say
  MADE IN THE USA.  I've actually had more parts warranty claims
  through NAPA than any other chain but that may just be that I buy
  from there much more often.
 
  Mike
 
 

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 1983 300D
 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Allan Streib
I think the NAPA branded filters are made by WIX, and seem to be a
notch above Fram and the other junk you find at AZ.  Only other thing
I've bought at NAPA recently was new fan belts for my 300D ('cause I
needed them immediately) and they were made in the USA and seemed
quite good (still in the car, with no problems).

The thing about NAPA is that, at least locally, the counter people
seem to be more knowledgeable.  I recognize the faces, too -- at AZ
it's always somebody new, seems like they must have a lot of turnover.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 NAH..Check it out for yourself..The crap NAPA sells is made
 in friggin China like everything else in this country nowadays.  I
 alaways give the guys at the local NAPA crap about it..I read
 the box to check on almost every part I get.  Rarely do they say
 MADE IN THE USA.  I've actually had more parts warranty claims
 through NAPA than any other chain but that may just be that I buy
 from there much more often.

 Mike



-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/5/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you ask for the good stuff they are happy to sell it to you. I think the
 problem is that many places are so accustomed to people wanting the best 
 price that they don't always ask if you
 want something better and if you don't tell them so, you get the cheap junk.

I just visited White Cap Supply for the first time yesterday.  Had a
nice discussion with the counterguy about the relative quality levels
of American, Taiwanese, and mainland Chinese tools.  He told me they
had cut down their stock of hand tools recently and might stop
carrying them entirely, because not enough people want the good stuff
to justify carrying it and they can't compete for price on the Chinese
crap with Harbor Freight.

Alex Chamberlain

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I even had to go through that at the VW dealer when I was trying to 
find  a new oil fill cap for one of my diesel Volvos ( they have VW 
diesel engines ). The clown asks for model/ year and I try to tell him, 
just pick any mid 80's water cooled engine, and the guy just sat there 
and insisted that he needed  the exact model/year to find one, after 
which I blurted. for cryin' out loud, just go back and grab an oil cap, 
they're all the same ...still didn't register...ended up mail ordering one.

---Robert

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 On 7/4/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 One thing that always bugs me about such parts places is the need for
 year, make, and model before anything can be done; it always seemed to
 me that a professional should be able to pull a part off the shelf if
 given the part number.
 

 Exactly!  You'd think that given the number of DIYers who are into
 swapping engines and making other such serious modifications to cars
 that they'd be more flexible.  I used to have a '71 Dart with a
 built-up mongrel of a motor installed by the PO... I got tired pretty
 quickly of saying over and over to the counterperson Just pick any
 early-70s Chrysler car with a V-8 on the computer, go and get the part
 off the shelf, and I'll see if it looks right.

 The most recent frustration was trying to find caps for the A/C
 service fittings in my Isuzu (R-12 system with GM-style fittings).
 Nothing was in the computer, but only the one guy over age 30 at NAPA
 could understand that A/C systems are sufficiently standardized that
 there might be a stock somewhere in the back of the store of generic
 A/C repair parts he could dig through for me.

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread slozukimc
NAH..Check it out for yourself..The crap NAPA sells is made in
friggin China like everything else in this country nowadays.  I alaways
give the guys at the local NAPA crap about it..I read the box to check
on almost every part I get.  Rarely do they say MADE IN THE USA.  I've
actually had more parts warranty claims through NAPA than any other chain
but that may just be that I buy from there much more often.

Mike


 You hit on something with NAPA. They sell higher quality parts than the
 others, probably as a quality as the parts Rusty sells. I just hope
 that
 competition does not bring down their quality. In the mean time, I'll
 happily pay 2X, 3X or 4X the other guys price for a hose or belt, with
 the
 understanding that I will not be replacing the part next year.

 I thoroughly agree. Several years ago I needed to rebuild the front end on
 a
 3/4 ton Chevy truck. I bought the AZ lifetime warrantee crap. China junk I
 'spose. Lasted a year. Never again. I lothe front end work, even with free
 parts. Sadly, the NAPA in my town has closed. For all my domestic auto
 parts
 needs I buy from www.rockauto.com . OEM quality parts, delivered quickly.
 Obviously, for all of my foriegn auto needs, I turn to Rusty. He can get
 OEM
 quality parts for Asian and European makes.

 Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Luther
Around here they have 3 or 4 Hispanic staff. 
When I needed fuel line and injector return line for the F250, I asked 
the lady
at O'Reilly if they had 3/16 fuel line.  She says that she doesn't know, and
takes me back to the fuel hose stock to look if anything is small enough. 
There wasn't any, but I found some in their regular stock out front. 

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'82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD!
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine


Quoting Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 All of the discount parts hoses have gone to different versions of the same
 theme. They dump all of the expertise into the computer so that the stores
 can staff with $8.00 / hour labor. 

 Last time I was in AutoZone, I was looking for a electric choke heater for
 my 77 Vette. But a 77 Vette did not have an electric choke heater. I knew
 that a 82 Chevy truck with a carburetor had one  it's the same carb. So, I
 asked for a choke heater for a 1982 Chevy truck with a 350 engine. I
 mentioned that I was going to install it on my 77 Vette, in place of the
 original convection choke heater  the clerk's response was you can't do
 that, it's an emissions part. 

 Uh, OK... 


 Also, I agree with Gary's comment about staffing with women - once you get
 in this mode there is a definite advantage to hiring pleasant, female staff. 
 Around here, they also hire at least one Hispanic staff. 

 Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
It's not just the AZ's.Last time my dealer got a new parts guy and I
was in picking up an oil filter (603.9XX motor) the guy would not get me
ANYTHING without a VIN.  The other (experienced) counter people would just
go back and get me a filter.

Angelo Giaimo
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Allan Streib
Wonder how long it will be before stores like this are complete
automats.  You walk up to an ATM-like machine, insert your credit
card, type in your VIN, specify needed parts, and out comes your
package on a conveyor belt.

I guess that's just like ordering from Rusty -- except you have
someone you can call if there's any question or problem.


ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's not just the AZ's.Last time my dealer got a new parts guy
 and I was in picking up an oil filter (603.9XX motor) the guy would
 not get me ANYTHING without a VIN.  The other (experienced) counter
 people would just go back and get me a filter.

 Angelo Giaimo
 1990 350SDL


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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread R A Bennell
THAT is exactly what will keep folks like Rusty in business. Personal service 
has all but vanished in the greater
world, (despite the fact that the jobs are now service rather than 
manufacturing) and the folks that play with old
Mercedes are not going to be satisfied with a vending machine.

Randy

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Wonder how long it will be before stores like this are complete
automats.  You walk up to an ATM-like machine, insert your credit
card, type in your VIN, specify needed parts, and out comes your
package on a conveyor belt.

I guess that's just like ordering from Rusty -- except you have
someone you can call if there's any question or problem.


ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's not just the AZ's.Last time my dealer got a new parts guy
 and I was in picking up an oil filter (603.9XX motor) the guy would
 not get me ANYTHING without a VIN.  The other (experienced) counter
 people would just go back and get me a filter.

 Angelo Giaimo
 1990 350SDL




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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Rusty is much better, you can talk to someone with years of experience.
Nothing can replace experience when faced with a tough problem.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

Wonder how long it will be before stores like this are complete
automats.  You walk up to an ATM-like machine, insert your credit
card, type in your VIN, specify needed parts, and out comes your
package on a conveyor belt.

I guess that's just like ordering from Rusty -- except you have
someone you can call if there's any question or problem.


ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's not just the AZ's.Last time my dealer got a new parts guy
 and I was in picking up an oil filter (603.9XX motor) the guy would
 not get me ANYTHING without a VIN.  The other (experienced) counter
 people would just go back and get me a filter.

 Angelo Giaimo
 1990 350SDL


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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread Allan Streib
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nothing can replace experience when faced with a tough problem.

VERY few people understand this anymore -- 'specially in the corporate
world.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-05 Thread LarryT
Tom  Allan wrote:Nothing can replace experience when faced with a tough 
problem.
 VERY few people understand this anymore -- 'specially in the corporate 
 world.

This goes back to the TQ mentality where only improvements that could be 
measured were worth doing.  It would be very difficult  to quatify 
experience and how it affects sales.  Well, naturally anythings possible if 
enough money is thrown its way - but... there's a limit to how much is spent 
lookng for something the bean counters don't believe is wort persuing

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 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nothing can replace experience when faced with a tough problem.

 VERY few people understand this anymore -- 'specially in the corporate
 world.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Tsk Tsk Tsk, seems like a box of chocolates and an apology card are in 
order.
I know it is hard to understand that a person with breast's actually knows 
something about automobiles, apart from putting the fuel thingy in the fuel 
hole when that other thingy on the dash says that there is not much fuel 
left.
Anyway I have noticed that a lot more girls are working at auto parts 
places, I guess they don't steal as much stuff.

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 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it 
 out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and 
 let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of 
 place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about 
 cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman 
 and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.


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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Gary Hurst
eh, i graduated the new york city public schools back when there were still
some old teachers from back in the day when there were standards.

On 7/4/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mendacious - your vocabulary puts me to shame.

 On 7/4/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tsk Tsk Tsk, seems like a box of chocolates and an apology card are in
  order.
  I know it is hard to understand that a person with breast's actually
 knows
  something about automobiles, apart from putting the fuel thingy in the
  fuel
  hole when that other thingy on the dash says that there is not much fuel
  left.
  Anyway I have noticed that a lot more girls are working at auto parts
  places, I guess they don't steal as much stuff.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:07 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone
 
 
 
   this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at
 the
   local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure
 it
   out
   there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
   let's
   face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
   confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
   place).
   being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything
 about
   cars
   at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a
 woman
   and
   i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
   minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present
 her
   with my situation and see if she can be of any help.
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Sunil Hari
mendacious - your vocabulary puts me to shame.

On 7/4/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tsk Tsk Tsk, seems like a box of chocolates and an apology card are in
 order.
 I know it is hard to understand that a person with breast's actually knows
 something about automobiles, apart from putting the fuel thingy in the
 fuel
 hole when that other thingy on the dash says that there is not much fuel
 left.
 Anyway I have noticed that a lot more girls are working at auto parts
 places, I guess they don't steal as much stuff.

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 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:07 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone



  this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
  local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it
  out
  there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
  let's
  face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
  confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
  place).
  being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about
  cars
  at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman
  and
  i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
  minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
  with my situation and see if she can be of any help.
 

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread LarryT
Hi Gary,
IMHO that's the standard MO for Autozone - they're always asking if they 
can help as I walk thru the door - asking again if I look confused (which is 
often) and always willing to earn their pay.

I'll bet Rusty could use someone like her!?

Take care --

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Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid, rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.

 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it 
 was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with her 
 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms 
 are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call it
 fixed.

 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it 
 out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and 
 let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of 
 place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about 
 cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman 
 and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking 
 for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.  she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very 
 impressed,
 so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny now
 when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester 
 telling
 me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery she
 thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for me
 because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me at
 any moment.

 i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have a
 street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
 really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
 pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the battery
 and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
 downright brilliant!

 all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how 
 different
 this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't doubt that women can know about cars, but i am concerned that many
of the women working at these places are there for the wrong reasons.  if
corporate has a mandate that 25% of employees in the stores must be women
and you can only get to 10% hiring women who are interested in cars, then
you have to be suspicious of any woman you encounter at the store.

my more important point though is that i found it ironic that i would end up
getting good customer service at autozone after all the more likely
candidates for customer service have failed so miserably.

On 7/4/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tsk Tsk Tsk, seems like a box of chocolates and an apology card are in
 order.
 I know it is hard to understand that a person with breast's actually knows
 something about automobiles, apart from putting the fuel thingy in the
 fuel
 hole when that other thingy on the dash says that there is not much fuel
 left.
 Anyway I have noticed that a lot more girls are working at auto parts
 places, I guess they don't steal as much stuff.

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 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 2:07 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone



  this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
  local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it
  out
  there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
  let's
  face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
  confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
  place).
  being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about
  cars
  at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman
  and
  i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
  minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
  with my situation and see if she can be of any help.
 

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/3/07, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We used to have a gal in her late 50s  working the counter at a local
 Napa. it was always an interesting sight to see all the regular
 customers lined up behind her, and the new guys behind the counter
 twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do unless a new customer came in.
 That gal could find parts for anything no matter how odd, and if it
 wasn't available, she could find something to rig that would work. Sharp
 lady. Then Napa decided to close that branch. I sure miss her. She was
 about the only person in the area who had a clue on what it is to run a
 parts counter.


It drives me nuts how variable the standards are for counterpersons at
McParts stores.  At the NAPA most convenient for me there is only one
person (a guy in his 50s) who is willing to stretch the gray matter to
solve the customer's problem.  The rest of them have the mindset that
if it isn't in the computerized parts inventory, it doesn't exist.
Autozone, same thing.  At Schuck's (Kragen or Checker outside of
Oregon), there is nobody with a clue, so I just go there for commodity
stuff on sale---oil, blinker fluid, etc.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread tom savage
I've always had good experiences customer service-wise at AutoZone. 
I've also found them to be completely useless for Mercedes parts beyond 
oil, glow plugs, and windshield wipers.

One thing that always bugs me about such parts places is the need for 
year, make, and model before anything can be done; it always seemed to 
me that a professional should be able to pull a part off the shelf if 
given the part number.  Last winter I was in a less than ideal mood when 
I lost a glow plug in my 300D.  I went to the local A-Z and asked for a 
Bosch glow plug, part #80006.  Year, make, and model?  Um, it is a 
Ford 9N tractor with a Kubota diesel in it, but I know this is the part 
I need and I've bought them here before.  She stared at the computer 
screen with a deer-in-the-headlights look for a minute until her eyes 
lit up and she said Hey, I know where those are!  She went and got the 
plug and seemed very pleased with herself for having found it all by 
herself.

Last weekend I was in Evansville, IN for family fun time when the 
bulb-out light lit up in the S320.  I went to the local A-Z, turned on 
all the lights and concluded that it must be a brake light.  I went 
inside and asked if someone could check the brake lights while I pressed 
the pedal.  It took the guy about 90 seconds of Okay, push the pedal 
again... ummm... again? before he could figure out that one of the 
brake lights wasn't working.  We go inside, '95 Mercedes S320  Uh, 
um, uh, it says E320, is that it?  No, scroll down.  Eventually he 
figured out how to scroll down and found my bulb.  I bought it and left.

It didn't fit, the little nubs on the side of the bulb were oriented 
differently from the proper bulb on which they're 180 degrees apart.  I 
went back found the correct bulb myself, and the dude couldn't believe 
that I would want a bulb other that what the computer said I needed, nor 
could he see the difference between the two bulbs.  For real comedy, you 
should see what the computer thinks is an air filter for a 450SL.

They're always friendly, but sometimes a little dumb.  This is why I'm 
so fond of Rusty and the local dealer - I tell them what I need and I 
get the right part right away, and never the AC Delco equivalent to the 
Bosch part.

Tom,
wow, that was long

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at AutoZone

2007-07-04 Thread Robert Rentfro

Many agreed:

They're always friendly, but sometimes a little dumb.  

Wifey was with me once at one of those places when I was getting a little
impatient with one of the counter clowns. The dude was justifying his
knuckledheadedness by whining, we don't hafta find Mer-say-deez stuff very
ofen. Meine Frau tried to help him out by reminding me, he hasn't been
working on these stinkin' Mercedes' all his life like you havehe
wouldn't know a Mercedes part if it bite him on his arsesettle down,
spaz.

Bob R
Molten Asphalt Streets, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/4/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One thing that always bugs me about such parts places is the need for
 year, make, and model before anything can be done; it always seemed to
 me that a professional should be able to pull a part off the shelf if
 given the part number.

Exactly!  You'd think that given the number of DIYers who are into
swapping engines and making other such serious modifications to cars
that they'd be more flexible.  I used to have a '71 Dart with a
built-up mongrel of a motor installed by the PO... I got tired pretty
quickly of saying over and over to the counterperson Just pick any
early-70s Chrysler car with a V-8 on the computer, go and get the part
off the shelf, and I'll see if it looks right.

The most recent frustration was trying to find caps for the A/C
service fittings in my Isuzu (R-12 system with GM-style fittings).
Nothing was in the computer, but only the one guy over age 30 at NAPA
could understand that A/C systems are sufficiently standardized that
there might be a stock somewhere in the back of the store of generic
A/C repair parts he could dig through for me.

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 i don't doubt that women can know about cars, but i am concerned that many
 of the women working at these places are there for the wrong reasons.  if
 corporate has a mandate that 25% of employees in the stores must be women
 and you can only get to 10% hiring women who are interested in cars, then
 you have to be suspicious of any woman you encounter at the store.

Forget the man/woman dichotomy. I'm afraid of anybody under the age of 30
in an Autozone. I offered to replace a friend's brake pads, she got them
at Azone, and they were way too large. Took them back, got the same bozo
who sold them to her, and he admitted that there were many different pads,
so he just picked one instead of finding out that she had 14 wheels and
smaller brakes. I had a used rotor that I wanted to compare to the one
he was selling us, but he swore up and down that there was only one
rotor for that car. Guess what I found out when I tried to put the Azone
rotor (for the large brakes that matched the first set of pads) on the car?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Gary Hurst
back when i drove domestic, i always dealt with the old timers at the main
napa in atlanta.  some of those guys knew every part in that massive
warehouse in their head.

alas, those days are done.

On 7/4/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Gary Hurst wrote:
 
  i don't doubt that women can know about cars, but i am concerned that
 many
  of the women working at these places are there for the wrong
 reasons.  if
  corporate has a mandate that 25% of employees in the stores must be
 women
  and you can only get to 10% hiring women who are interested in cars,
 then
  you have to be suspicious of any woman you encounter at the store.

 Forget the man/woman dichotomy. I'm afraid of anybody under the age of 30
 in an Autozone. I offered to replace a friend's brake pads, she got them
 at Azone, and they were way too large. Took them back, got the same bozo
 who sold them to her, and he admitted that there were many different pads,
 so he just picked one instead of finding out that she had 14 wheels and
 smaller brakes. I had a used rotor that I wanted to compare to the one
 he was selling us, but he swore up and down that there was only one
 rotor for that car. Guess what I found out when I tried to put the Azone
 rotor (for the large brakes that matched the first set of pads) on the
 car?

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread slozukimc
Oh so subtle Larry.

Mike

 Hi Gary,
 IMHO that's the standard MO for Autozone - they're always asking if
 they
 can help as I walk thru the door - asking again if I look confused (which
 is
 often) and always willing to earn their pay.

 I'll bet Rusty could use someone like her!?

 Take care --

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 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:37 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
 there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
 rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.

 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it
 was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with
 her
 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms
 are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar
 and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say
 look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call
 it
 fixed.

 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it
 out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
 let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
 place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about
 cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman
 and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present
 her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking
 for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.
 she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very
 impressed,
 so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny
 now
 when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester
 telling
 me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery
 she
 thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for
 me
 because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me
 at
 any moment.

 i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have
 a
 street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
 really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
 pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the
 battery
 and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
 downright brilliant!

 all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how
 different
 this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread LarryT
Hi Mike,

;-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


 Oh so subtle Larry.

 Mike

 Hi Gary,
 IMHO that's the standard MO for Autozone - they're always asking if
 they
 can help as I walk thru the door - asking again if I look confused (which
 is
 often) and always willing to earn their pay.

 I'll bet Rusty could use someone like her!?

 Take care --

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
 PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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 .
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:37 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
 there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
 rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.

 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it
 was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with
 her
 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms
 are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar
 and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say
 look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call
 it
 fixed.

 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it
 out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
 let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
 place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about
 cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman
 and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present
 her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking
 for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.
 she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very
 impressed,
 so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny
 now
 when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester
 telling
 me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery
 she
 thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for
 me
 because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me
 at
 any moment.

 i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have
 a
 street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
 really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
 pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the
 battery
 and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
 downright brilliant!

 all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how
 different
 this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Trampas

A good parts man will make or break a store. We use to order all our parts
from a local Napa but when the 60 year old woman that owned it sold the
store we had to switch parts store as the new owners did not know a thing.
They had the parts in stock, but we could not get them... 

I currently order my Mercedes parts from Rusty, for some things he is more
expensive but it is worth it to be able to call someone and just say I need
xxx for a W126 and then get the right part. I called up Rusty the other day
thinking about how long a call it was going to be as that I had broken an
old vacuum check valve on my 117 gasser. Rusty said Yeap the blue one, what
else do you need? That my friends is priceless! Imagine going to autozone
and asking for a vacuum check valve. 

The other amazing thing is the parts Rusty can get, for example the plastic
guide on my window motor when bad. Most car manufactures make you buy a new
window regulator, however Rusty not only knew the part but sent me a new one
for around $5. Of course for the most part I now just call Rusty and tell
him to send me every part he has in stock, as that if I don't need it today
then one of my cars will need it tomorrow. 

The local Mercedes dealer use to have a good parts guy like that, for
example I went in and asked for a front seal for a transmission, and he said
Do you want the pump seal too? I asked why and he said, Well most of the
time it is a 50/50 chance on that transmission of being front seal or pump
seal, and it is easy to replace both with transmission out. I replaced
both. 

Trampas

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On Behalf Of LarryT
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

Hi Mike,

;-)

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- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


 Oh so subtle Larry.

 Mike

 Hi Gary,
 IMHO that's the standard MO for Autozone - they're always asking if
 they
 can help as I walk thru the door - asking again if I look confused (which
 is
 often) and always willing to earn their pay.

 I'll bet Rusty could use someone like her!?

 Take care --

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
 PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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 .
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:37 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
 there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
 rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.

 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it
 was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with
 her
 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms
 are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar
 and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say
 look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call
 it
 fixed.

 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it
 out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
 let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
 place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about
 cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman
 and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present
 her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking
 for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.
 she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very
 impressed,
 so i asked her

Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Gary Hurst
this is the advantage of being a pre computer parts guy.  nowadays, you
punch in year and model and maybe vin number and you get an answer.  you
don't need to know anything.  the computer tells you the part, how many you
have, how much to charge for it, where it is located, etc.

in the old days, you had hte chance to look it up a large microfiche
machine.  i remember microfiche in general.  at the time, we thought it was
quite nifty, but by modern standards, it sucked.  in the microfiche days, it
paid to learn all the parts.

it would not surprise me if rusty could recite several thousand part numbers
and descriptions from memory.

On 7/4/07, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 A good parts man will make or break a store. We use to order all our parts
 from a local Napa but when the 60 year old woman that owned it sold the
 store we had to switch parts store as the new owners did not know a thing.
 They had the parts in stock, but we could not get them...

 I currently order my Mercedes parts from Rusty, for some things he is more
 expensive but it is worth it to be able to call someone and just say I
 need
 xxx for a W126 and then get the right part. I called up Rusty the other
 day
 thinking about how long a call it was going to be as that I had broken an
 old vacuum check valve on my 117 gasser. Rusty said Yeap the blue one,
 what
 else do you need? That my friends is priceless! Imagine going to autozone
 and asking for a vacuum check valve.

 The other amazing thing is the parts Rusty can get, for example the
 plastic
 guide on my window motor when bad. Most car manufactures make you buy a
 new
 window regulator, however Rusty not only knew the part but sent me a new
 one
 for around $5. Of course for the most part I now just call Rusty and tell
 him to send me every part he has in stock, as that if I don't need it
 today
 then one of my cars will need it tomorrow.

 The local Mercedes dealer use to have a good parts guy like that, for
 example I went in and asked for a front seal for a transmission, and he
 said
 Do you want the pump seal too? I asked why and he said, Well most of
 the
 time it is a 50/50 chance on that transmission of being front seal or pump
 seal, and it is easy to replace both with transmission out. I replaced
 both.

 Trampas

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of LarryT
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:15 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

 Hi Mike,

 ;-)

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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 .
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone


  Oh so subtle Larry.
 
  Mike
 
  Hi Gary,
  IMHO that's the standard MO for Autozone - they're always asking if
  they
  can help as I walk thru the door - asking again if I look confused
 (which
  is
  often) and always willing to earn their pay.
 
  I'll bet Rusty could use someone like her!?
 
  Take care --
 
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
  www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
  Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
  PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
  Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
  Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
  .
  - Original Message -
  From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:37 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone
 
 
  i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
  changed
  our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
  since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
  there
  cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
  rude,
  mendacious and incompetent.
 
  needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and
 it
  was
  the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with
  her
  92
  300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
  extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the
 symptoms
  are
  and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar
  and
  keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say
  look,
  you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and
 call
  it
  fixed.
 
  this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at
 the
  local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure
 it
  out
  there . we walk

Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
Blinker fluid? I bet I could ask any of the local discount part shops
for that magic stuff  the clerk would actually try to look it up for me!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

On 7/3/07, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We used to have a gal in her late 50s  working the counter at a local
 Napa. it was always an interesting sight to see all the regular
 customers lined up behind her, and the new guys behind the counter
 twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do unless a new customer came in.
 That gal could find parts for anything no matter how odd, and if it
 wasn't available, she could find something to rig that would work. Sharp
 lady. Then Napa decided to close that branch. I sure miss her. She was
 about the only person in the area who had a clue on what it is to run a
 parts counter.


It drives me nuts how variable the standards are for counterpersons at
McParts stores.  At the NAPA most convenient for me there is only one
person (a guy in his 50s) who is willing to stretch the gray matter to
solve the customer's problem.  The rest of them have the mindset that
if it isn't in the computerized parts inventory, it doesn't exist.
Autozone, same thing.  At Schuck's (Kragen or Checker outside of
Oregon), there is nobody with a clue, so I just go there for commodity
stuff on sale---oil, blinker fluid, etc.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
All of the discount parts hoses have gone to different versions of the same
theme. They dump all of the expertise into the computer so that the stores
can staff with $8.00 / hour labor.

Last time I was in AutoZone, I was looking for a electric choke heater for
my 77 Vette. But a 77 Vette did not have an electric choke heater. I knew
that a 82 Chevy truck with a carburetor had one  it's the same carb. So, I
asked for a choke heater for a 1982 Chevy truck with a 350 engine. I
mentioned that I was going to install it on my 77 Vette, in place of the
original convection choke heater  the clerk's response was you can't do
that, it's an emissions part.

Uh, OK...


Also, I agree with Gary's comment about staffing with women - once you get
in this mode there is a definite advantage to hiring pleasant, female staff.
Around here, they also hire at least one Hispanic staff.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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Gary Hurst wrote:
 
 i don't doubt that women can know about cars, but i am concerned that many
 of the women working at these places are there for the wrong reasons.  if
 corporate has a mandate that 25% of employees in the stores must be women
 and you can only get to 10% hiring women who are interested in cars, then
 you have to be suspicious of any woman you encounter at the store.

Forget the man/woman dichotomy. I'm afraid of anybody under the age of 30
in an Autozone. I offered to replace a friend's brake pads, she got them
at Azone, and they were way too large. Took them back, got the same bozo
who sold them to her, and he admitted that there were many different pads,
so he just picked one instead of finding out that she had 14 wheels and
smaller brakes. I had a used rotor that I wanted to compare to the one
he was selling us, but he swore up and down that there was only one
rotor for that car. Guess what I found out when I tried to put the Azone
rotor (for the large brakes that matched the first set of pads) on the car?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we changed
our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody there
cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid, rude,
mendacious and incompetent.

needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it was
the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with her 92
300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms are
and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar and
keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say look,
you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call it
fixed.

this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it out
there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and let's
face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of place).
being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about cars
at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman and
i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking for
hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.  she
snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very impressed,
so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny now
when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester telling
me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery she
thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for me
because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me at
any moment.

i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have a
street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the battery
and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
downright brilliant!

all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how different
this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-03 Thread thargrav
Gary,

I had a girlfriend one who was a better mechanic than I was  I consider 
myself pretty knowledgeable when it comes to cars. She got so tired of being 
treated like a stupid broad at places like tire shops that she'd have her 
boyfriend (me at the time) act as a front man while she stood back quitely, 
listening to the mechanic. There are some very smart lady mechanics out 
there. I like how this one let you salvage your manhood by letting you release 
the battery fastener. Smart broad.

Tom
www.kegkits.com

Quoting Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we
 changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody
 there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid,
 rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.
 
 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it
 was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with
 her 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms
 are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar
 and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say
 look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call
 it
 fixed.
 
 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it
 out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and
 let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of
 place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about
 cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman
 and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present
 her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.
 
 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking
 for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution. 
 she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very
 impressed,
 so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny
 now
 when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester
 telling
 me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery
 she
 thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for
 me
 because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me
 at
 any moment.
 
 i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have
 a
 street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
 really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
 pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the
 battery
 and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
 downright brilliant!
 
 all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how
 different
 this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-03 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Gary,

Is this young lady available to try and do the same thing in the  
trouble spots the world...?  Maybe world peace is not that far  
away.   0n second thought, just hope she does her magic on her  
little corner of the world

Wonderful story.

Thanks for sharing,

Chuck


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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Think your CS issues might have something to do with being a sexist 
b*d?  Or just the average consumer?  Or both?

--R (ducking!)

BTW where I live there are about 3 banks on every corner (Starbucks on 
the other one, except where there are two opposite), so you can usually 
find a better deal somewhere

Gary Hurst wrote:
 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid, rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.

 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with her 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call it
 fixed.

 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.  she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very impressed,
 so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny now
 when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester telling
 me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery she
 thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for me
 because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me at
 any moment.

 i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have a
 street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
 really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
 pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the battery
 and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
 downright brilliant!

 all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how different
 this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone

2007-07-03 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

We used to have a gal in her late 50s  working the counter at a local 
Napa. it was always an interesting sight to see all the regular 
customers lined up behind her, and the new guys behind the counter  
twiddling their thumbs with nothing to do unless a new customer came in. 
That gal could find parts for anything no matter how odd, and if it 
wasn't available, she could find something to rig that would work. Sharp 
lady. Then Napa decided to close that branch. I sure miss her. She was 
about the only person in the area who had a clue on what it is to run a 
parts counter.


Robert





Gary Hurst wrote:
 i've been having a terrible time lately with customer service.  we changed
 our merchant bank recently and i've had nothing but trouble with them
 since.  spent another 2 hours on the phone with them today.  nobody there
 cares one bit.  the employees are not only indifferent, but stupid, rude,
 mendacious and incompetent.

 needless to say, i was in a pretty foul mood when the phone rang and it was
 the ex-wife with some sort of car issue.  she is at the mechanic with her 92
 300E being told that her windshield wiper transmission is damaged and
 extensive and expensive repairs are needed.  i ask her what the symptoms are
 and she tells me that the wiper blade smashed into the window pillar and
 keeps repeating until it flies off.  I think for a moment and say look,
 you're short anyway. just put a really short wiper blade on it and call it
 fixed.

 this all seems conceptually beyond her, so i tell her to meet me at the
 local autozone (where i've never been before) and we will just figure it out
 there . we walk in and there is a young woman behind the counter (and let's
 face that fact that a young woman behind the counter does not inspire
 confidence at achieving any sort of solution at an autozone type of place).
 being in a bad mood, i start by asking whether she knows anything about cars
 at all or whether she is just there because they needed to hire a woman and
 i ought to go elsewhere.  she then calmly explained that she had some
 minimal knowledge of automotive systems and i was welcome to present her
 with my situation and see if she can be of any help.

 within 3 minutes, we were all outside with a dozen wiper blades looking for
 hte perfect size and withing another 5 minutes we had our solution.  she
 snapped on the new blade and we were fixed for $11.  i was very impressed,
 so i asked her about the battery on my saturn as it sounds kinda funny now
 when it cranks.  2 minutes later, she is out with the battery tester telling
 me i have a dead cell.  so i tell her to just give me whatever battery she
 thinks will do the job, and she tells me that she should put it in for me
 because i shouldn't be driving around with a battery that could fail me at
 any moment.

 i try to explain how i can't have her put in a battery for me as i have a
 street rep to preserve, but she says she does it all day long at it is
 really no big deal.  and this is where it gets really charming.  she
 pretends to be unable to break open the fastener holding down the battery
 and asks if i might be so good as to help her get it done.  now that is
 downright brilliant!

 all my problems are fixed in a half hour for under 70 bucks.  how different
 this is from all my recent experiences with customer service?
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