Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-03 Thread archer
 Yeah I know that, it's like when a dealer describes a car as immaculate
 inside and out. Immaculate except for the worn seats, rust and non
 working A/C without a belt on the compressor.
 Then has the audacity to describe my car as very average, which is as
 good as the one he is selling, if not better. With a working A/C.
 @^%$$*^% car dealers, they should all be shot at birth.
 Ooh no, now I've done it, 2000 posts coming up discussing which weapon
 is best for terminating car dealers.

 Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:
 Aw come on, you know that every used benz being sold with non working AC
 only needs a recharge...you aren't supposed to pay any attention to
 those silly locked up compressors or giant gaping holes in condensers
 and the like :-)
 -Robert

During 60 years of fiddling with automobiles I thought I'd seen the lowest 
forms of auto dealer life, but I recently ran into one even lower.  I 
emailed Tampa Hondaland while trying to find a good price for my grandson on 
a Honda.  The next day my computer was absolutely flooded with every kind 
of spam imaginable.  The dealers computer guy had apparently sold my address 
to some commercial spam outfit.
I wrote a snail mail letter to the president/manager of Tampa Hondaland 
about it and never received a reply.
Is Honda selling so many cars they can afford to let their dealers do this 
sort of thing?   Sheesh!
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-03 Thread Hendrik
Well, write a letter to Honda America and make them aware, that the 
manager chose not to respond to your letter of complaint.
If Honda don't get back to you then you know that they are selling that 
much, that customer care can take a backseat.
BTW how do you know that the spamming originated from that Honda dealer?

archer wrote:
 
 During 60 years of fiddling with automobiles I thought I'd seen the lowest 
 forms of auto dealer life, but I recently ran into one even lower.  I 
 emailed Tampa Hondaland while trying to find a good price for my grandson on 
 a Honda.  The next day my computer was absolutely flooded with every kind 
 of spam imaginable.  The dealers computer guy had apparently sold my address 
 to some commercial spam outfit.
 I wrote a snail mail letter to the president/manager of Tampa Hondaland 
 about it and never received a reply.
 Is Honda selling so many cars they can afford to let their dealers do this 
 sort of thing?   Sheesh!
 Gerry
   

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-03 Thread archer
 Well, write a letter to Honda America and make them aware, that the
 manager chose not to respond to your letter of complaint.
 If Honda don't get back to you then you know that they are selling that
 much, that customer care can take a backseat.
 BTW how do you know that the spamming originated from that Honda dealer?
---
I sent copies of the letter to Honda America and Honda in Japan as well. I 
never received a reply.

I never have spam because cookies are always turned off, there is a good 
firewall, adaware, spybot, crapcleaner, etc.; and all I use this computer 
for is email to reputable websites, purchases, etc.  The only unusual 
contact I had that day was the dealer.  The flood of emails the next day had 
to be the dealer.

 archer wrote:
 
 During 60 years of fiddling with automobiles I thought I'd seen the 
 lowest
 forms of auto dealer life, but I recently ran into one even lower.  I
 emailed Tampa Hondaland while trying to find a good price for my grandson 
 on
 a Honda.  The next day my computer was absolutely flooded with every 
 kind
 of spam imaginable.  The dealers computer guy had apparently sold my 
 address
 to some commercial spam outfit.
 I wrote a snail mail letter to the president/manager of Tampa Hondaland
 about it and never received a reply.
 Is Honda selling so many cars they can afford to let their dealers do 
 this
 sort of thing?   Sheesh!
 Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-03 Thread Mitch Haley


archer wrote:
 The flood of emails the next day had to be the dealer.

I once got in a usenet spat with somebody, and hours later,
my 25mb mailbox runneth over. For a while, I had trouble
downloading the emails fast enough to keep my good emails
from bouncing due to a full mailbox. I of course thought
the person from my net rage incident was responsible. 
It turned out to be the biggest virus outbreak the
internet had ever seen, and the timing was just a
coincidence. I wish I could remember when that was, maybe
2003?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Oh the evil that men do when trying to sell a used Mercedes...

On 8/31/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt.
  After
  purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke
  because the rotary AC compressor was seized!

 If the belt is missing, that's the first thing I assume!

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-02 Thread Hendrik
Basically if you can't turn the compressor by hand it is stuffed. If the 
compressor idler bearing is seized you should still be able to turn the 
compressor but a seized compressor is a great bargaining tool and not 
that expensive to fix with a S/H one.
A lot of people looking to buy a car will be turned off straightaway if 
the A/C is not working and this leaves the DIYers with cheap cars.

andrew strasfogel wrote:
 Oh the evil that men do when trying to sell a used Mercedes...

 On 8/31/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt.
 After
 purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke
 because the rotary AC compressor was seized!
   
 If the belt is missing, that's the first thing I assume!

 -- Jim

 
   

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-02 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Aw come on, you know that every used benz being sold with non working AC 
only needs a recharge...you aren't supposed to pay any attention to 
those silly locked up compressors or giant gaping holes in condensers 
and the like :-)

-Robert

Hendrik wrote:
 Basically if you can't turn the compressor by hand it is stuffed. If the 
 compressor idler bearing is seized you should still be able to turn the 
 compressor but a seized compressor is a great bargaining tool and not 
 that expensive to fix with a S/H one.
 A lot of people looking to buy a car will be turned off straightaway if 
 the A/C is not working and this leaves the DIYers with cheap cars.

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
   
 Oh the evil that men do when trying to sell a used Mercedes...

 On 8/31/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt.
 After
 purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke
 because the rotary AC compressor was seized!
   
 
 If the belt is missing, that's the first thing I assume!

 -- Jim

 
   
   
 

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-09-02 Thread Hendrik
Yeah I know that, it's like when a dealer describes a car as immaculate 
inside and out. Immaculate except for the worn seats, rust and non 
working A/C without a belt on the compressor.
Then has the audacity to describe my car as very average, which is as 
good as the one he is selling, if not better. With a working A/C. 
@^%$$*^% car dealers, they should all be shot at birth.
Ooh no, now I've done it, 2000 posts coming up discussing which weapon 
is best for terminating car dealers.

Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:
 Aw come on, you know that every used benz being sold with non working AC 
 only needs a recharge...you aren't supposed to pay any attention to 
 those silly locked up compressors or giant gaping holes in condensers 
 and the like :-)

 -Robert

   

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/30/2007 5:18:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

_http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC04407
3_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategor
yZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_ 
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC044073_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ
cmdZViewItem) 


Kaleb, and all,
 
As you know, the E420 is a little hot rod, just short of the 500Es of that  
era!  I like that color combination.  If it is as clean as it looks,  it will 
probably go for about 7K  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 267 K miles 
98 ML 320, 151 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
It needs a blower motor.  Is that a big deal to replace?

On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yea, I got my 94 E420 nearly free. Its quite a rocket.

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 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal


 
  In a message dated 8/30/2007 5:18:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC04407
  3_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategor
  yZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_
  (
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  cmdZViewItem)
 
 
  Kaleb, and all,
 
  As you know, the E420 is a little hot rod, just short of the 500Es of
 that
  era!  I like that color combination.  If it is as clean as it looks,  it
  will
  probably go for about 7K
 
  Jim  Friesen
  Phoenix AZ
  79 300SD, 267 K miles
  98 ML 320, 151 K  miles
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yea, I got my 94 E420 nearly free. Its quite a rocket.

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal



 In a message dated 8/30/2007 5:18:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC04407
 3_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategor
 yZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_
 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC044073_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ
 cmdZViewItem)


 Kaleb, and all,

 As you know, the E420 is a little hot rod, just short of the 500Es of that
 era!  I like that color combination.  If it is as clean as it looks,  it 
 will
 probably go for about 7K

 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 267 K miles
 98 ML 320, 151 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
no, takes mayby 20 minutes.

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- Original Message - 
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal


 It needs a blower motor.  Is that a big deal to replace?

 On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yea, I got my 94 E420 nearly free. Its quite a rocket.

 ---
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 Cox Auto Trader
 730 FSBO Supervisor

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal


 
  In a message dated 8/30/2007 5:18:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC04407
  3_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategor
  yZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_
  (
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC044073_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ
  cmdZViewItem)
 
 
  Kaleb, and all,
 
  As you know, the E420 is a little hot rod, just short of the 500Es of
 that
  era!  I like that color combination.  If it is as clean as it looks, 
  it
  will
  probably go for about 7K
 
  Jim  Friesen
  Phoenix AZ
  79 300SD, 267 K miles
  98 ML 320, 151 K  miles
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
If that's the case, it seems suspicious that he hasn't already replaced it.
He may be trying to use this as a way to mask a more serious problem, such
as no A/C.

I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt.  After
purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke
because the rotary AC compressor was seized!


On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 no, takes mayby 20 minutes.

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 730 FSBO Supervisor

 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal


  It needs a blower motor.  Is that a big deal to replace?
 
  On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yea, I got my 94 E420 nearly free. Its quite a rocket.
 
  ---
  Kaleb C. Striplin
  Cox Auto Trader
  730 FSBO Supervisor
 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal
 
 
  
   In a message dated 8/30/2007 5:18:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
 
 _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC04407
   3_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategor
   yZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_
   (
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC044073_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQ
   cmdZViewItem)
  
  
   Kaleb, and all,
  
   As you know, the E420 is a little hot rod, just short of the 500Es of
  that
   era!  I like that color combination.  If it is as clean as it looks,
   it
   will
   probably go for about 7K
  
   Jim  Friesen
   Phoenix AZ
   79 300SD, 267 K miles
   98 ML 320, 151 K  miles
  
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread Gary Thompson
The blower motor going out is what quickly lead to my evaporator
giving up the ghost. I wouldn't be surprised at all if his evaporator
was leaking big time as well. I've been three summers without A/C now
just waiting for the nerve to undertake an evaporatectomy. Problem is
that since I sold the 300D for a song a couple of years ago I have no
backup wheels. Once I tear this thing apart I'm grounded until I get
it back together.

There was a guy here in Austin trying to sell a 1995 E320 without air
for $2900. Of course it also had 197K miles on it. Makes me cry to see
these things cheaper than a 1979 300D...

Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 8/31/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If that's the case, it seems suspicious that he hasn't already replaced it.
 He may be trying to use this as a way to mask a more serious problem, such
 as no A/C.

 I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt.  After
 purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke
 because the rotary AC compressor was seized!

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-31 Thread Jim Cathey
 I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt.  
 After
 purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke
 because the rotary AC compressor was seized!

If the belt is missing, that's the first thing I assume!

-- Jim


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[MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, a seller named hazeenn in florida.  Jump right on that.  Let's 
see, its just now been 2 years since Katrina

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Hendrik
What's with the screwed up VIN numbers, do you people always have to do 
everything different or is the VIN translated into the imperial system 
different?

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Hendrik
Don't you know the general rule with Mercs, if it has a letter before a 
number it is best to be avoided.
Although I am mucho annoyed that we never got the 420 in the 124 chassis.

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
MIGHT

Rich Thomas wrote:
 Yeah, a seller named hazeenn in florida.  Jump right on that.  Let's 
 see, its just now been 2 years since Katrina
 
 --R
 
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 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-E420-WDBEA34E8RC044073_W0QQitemZ160152532698QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


   
 
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