Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-24 Thread MG
As far as twisting it around goes, yes I agree but for breaking a 
tire loose then I would say that 3/4" plywood would be better as 
I have found that even 4 ply 1/2" plywood tends to be a bit too 
shall we say pliable to be very steady for any but the most light 
work. Then again most of what I have done with the tire changer 
has been the bead-lock stuff on 3 and 4 wheelers. Breaking those 
loose is one mother of a job. Car tires are almost a cinch 
compared to the bead-lock stuff.


Manfred


Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:16:28 -0400
From: Mitch Haley 

MG wrote:
> > I'm surprised that you got it to remain steady enough to be 
usable with
> > it only fastened to 1/2" plywood. Mine does work quite well 
fastened to
> > the garage floor though. When I'm not using it I just unbolt 
it and put

> > it away in the corner.

I think as long as the operator is standing on the same platform 
the changer is
affixed to, you won't be moving it around when you reef on the 
handle.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-23 Thread Mitch Haley

MG wrote:
I'm surprised that you got it to remain steady enough to be usable with 
it only fastened to 1/2" plywood. Mine does work quite well fastened to 
the garage floor though. When I'm not using it I just unbolt it and put 
it away in the corner.


I think as long as the operator is standing on the same platform the changer is 
affixed to, you won't be moving it around when you reef on the handle.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread MG
I'm surprised that you got it to remain steady enough to be 
usable with it only fastened to 1/2" plywood. Mine does work 
quite well fastened to the garage floor though. When I'm not 
using it I just unbolt it and put it away in the corner.


Manfred


Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 06:45:53 -0600
From: Hans Neureiter 

I made it "portable" by bolting it to a 4'x4' sheet of 1/2" 
plywood with

carriage bolts and wing nuts..

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread Gerry Archer
Thank you, Jim.  I might buy one since they have it at a 
low price in the local store.

Gerry


I have the HF manual tire changer.  POS, of course, but
you can actually change a tire with it.  Absolutely needs
to be nailed down, a pallet is a half-decent choice.

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread Jim Cathey

I have the HF manual tire changer.  POS, of course, but
you can actually change a tire with it.  Absolutely needs
to be nailed down, a pallet is a half-decent choice.

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread Hans Neureiter
I made it "portable" by bolting it to a 4'x4' sheet of 1/2" plywood with
carriage bolts and wing nuts..


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, MG  wrote:

> I have had one of those "portable" tire changers for years and it works
> just fine. That's what used to be used to change tires for eons. Still
> works as long as you don't mind the work. Not too sure about the portable
> part as it does need to be fastened down to a concrete slab otherwise you
> aren't ever going to get anywhere. The portable tire balancer is also very
> nice as long as you remember to put the tire/wheel on there very gently. If
> you drop it too hard the pin that the balance cone rides on will break.
> That could just be a guess but...
>
> Manfred
>
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:44:07 -0500
> From: "Gerry Archer" 
>
>
>
> Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was
> possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that
> can
> change/balance modern tires.
> Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone tried it?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html
>
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread Gerry Archer

I know the one you mean, Manfred.  I used it working at a service
station as a teenager.  The one I saw at HF was not nearly as 
heavy or sturdy as the commercial models, so I was think perhaps

someone on the list had bought one and had an opinion on it.
I agree that it would need to be fastened down considering the force
that must be applied.
Gerry

From: "MG" 
I have had one of those "portable" tire changers for years and it 
works just fine. That's what used to be used to change tires for 
eons. Still works as long as you don't mind the work. Not too 
sure about the portable part as it does need to be fastened down 
to a concrete slab otherwise you aren't ever going to get 
anywhere. The portable tire balancer is also very nice as long as 
you remember to put the tire/wheel on there very gently. If you 
drop it too hard the pin that the balance cone rides on will 
break. That could just be a guess but...


Manfred

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:44:07 -0500
From: "Gerry Archer" 


Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires 
when it was
possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY 
rig that can

change/balance modern tires.
Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone 
tried it?


http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html

Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread Gerry Archer





On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Gerry Archer

Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was
possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that
can change/balance modern tires.
Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone tried
it?
http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html


Dunno about the tire changers, but their wheel weights work great in
Lionel
locomotives!
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10581441/
-MMM-


That's cool!  vehicle in the foreground looks like an old time streetcar
like I rode
many times during the 30s.  Lionel trains seem to have gotten much bigger.
As a kid, my Lionel train set was much smaller.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-17 Thread Gerry Archer

Beetle tires were easy to change with two tire irons.  Breaking the bead
loose could be difficult, though.  Breaking the bead on the newer,  wider
rims without a professional tire changer was nearly impossible.
Gerry

I changed a tire on my old VW bug once, about 1972.  Taught me that  
while you CAN do it, the proper tools are really very very nice and  
save lots of work.



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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-16 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was
> possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that
> can change/balance modern tires.
> Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone tried it?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html
>

Dunno about the tire changers, but their wheel weights work great in Lionel
locomotives!

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10581441/

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-16 Thread Peter Frederick
I changed a tire on my old VW bug once, about 1972.  Taught me that  
while you CAN do it, the proper tools are really very very nice and  
save lots of work.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-16 Thread MG
I have had one of those "portable" tire changers for years and it 
works just fine. That's what used to be used to change tires for 
eons. Still works as long as you don't mind the work. Not too 
sure about the portable part as it does need to be fastened down 
to a concrete slab otherwise you aren't ever going to get 
anywhere. The portable tire balancer is also very nice as long as 
you remember to put the tire/wheel on there very gently. If you 
drop it too hard the pin that the balance cone rides on will 
break. That could just be a guess but...


Manfred

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:44:07 -0500
From: "Gerry Archer" 


Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires 
when it was
possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY 
rig that can

change/balance modern tires.
Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone 
tried it?


http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html

Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-16 Thread Gerry Archer
Back in the 40'-'50s-'60s I mounted and balanced my own tires when it was 
possible to do by hand.  Since then I've been looking for a DIY rig that can 
change/balance modern tires.

Harbor Frt has one which looks like it "might" work.  Has anyone tried it?

http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/tire-wheel.html

Thanks,
Gerry

..
From: "Richard Hattaway" 

Ran into something similiar here, only stricter.. the shop would not mount 
my tire no matter the age. Safety concerns.


I've dealt with the shop for years, had a poor puppy dog look I guess... 
they told me to tip the mechanic, he'd be on break in 5 minutes. So I got it 
mounted, and it only cost me 10 instead of 12 (c: Everybody left happy.




On Friday, November 15, 2013 6:48 PM, Rich Thomas 
 wrote:


I had a slow leak on a tire on my truck, and a take-off from one of the
SDs I wanted to put on a rim I bought, to use as a spare. I go to this
tire place, they have a small corner lot, and the parking spaces in
front are numbered with 2 floor jacks at each one. They have 5 or 6 in
front, a few along the side that are covered, and some space out back
for parking. You pull into a spot, the guy jacks the car and does the
tire changing there, with a coupla bays for mounting, spinning, etc.
Very efficient. I got the leak fixed (small nail) but he would not
mount the old tire (which still had a fair amount of tread) since it was
a 2002 vintage and he couldn't do anything over 10 years. I guess that
makes sense at some level, but for a spare...

Anyway, interesting shop but the spare deal kinda annoyed me. The
intersection of trial lawyers and the nanny state...

--R



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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-15 Thread Richard Hattaway
Ran into something similiar here, only stricter.. the shop would not mount my 
tire no matter the age.  Safety concerns.  

I've dealt with the shop for years, had a poor puppy dog look I guess... they 
told me to tip the mechanic, he'd be on break in 5 minutes.  So I got it 
mounted, and it only cost me 10 instead of 12 (c:   Everybody left happy.



On Friday, November 15, 2013 6:48 PM, Rich Thomas 
 wrote:
 
I had a slow leak on a tire on my truck, and a take-off from one of the 
SDs I wanted to put on a rim I bought, to use as a spare.  I go to this 
tire place, they have a small corner lot, and the parking spaces in 
front are numbered with 2 floor jacks at each one.  They have 5 or 6 in 
front, a few along the side that are covered, and some space out back 
for parking.  You pull into a spot, the guy jacks the car and does the 
tire changing there, with a coupla bays for mounting, spinning, etc.  
Very efficient.  I got the leak fixed (small nail) but he would not 
mount the old tire (which still had a fair amount of tread) since it was 
a 2002 vintage and he couldn't do anything over 10 years.  I guess that 
makes sense at some level, but for a spare...

Anyway, interesting shop but the spare deal kinda annoyed me.  The 
intersection of trial lawyers and the nanny state...

--R



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[MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I had a slow leak on a tire on my truck, and a take-off from one of the 
SDs I wanted to put on a rim I bought, to use as a spare.  I go to this 
tire place, they have a small corner lot, and the parking spaces in 
front are numbered with 2 floor jacks at each one.  They have 5 or 6 in 
front, a few along the side that are covered, and some space out back 
for parking.  You pull into a spot, the guy jacks the car and does the 
tire changing there, with a coupla bays for mounting, spinning, etc.  
Very efficient.  I got the leak fixed (small nail) but he would not 
mount the old tire (which still had a fair amount of tread) since it was 
a 2002 vintage and he couldn't do anything over 10 years.  I guess that 
makes sense at some level, but for a spare...


Anyway, interesting shop but the spare deal kinda annoyed me.  The 
intersection of trial lawyers and the nanny state...


--R



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