Re: [MBZ] trademark Ownership, Stars and such --** WAS **Motor Mounts

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Thanks - now I have a great excuse to explain to people precisely why I am
not a Porsche owner.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 Speaking of owning designs and such -- back when I owned a small (very
 small) publishng company I thought it's be nice to produce some calendars
 showing the Porsche 911s owned by members of forum I participate in.  After
 collecting lots of great photos from list members I decided to ask Porsche
 for permission to publish a calendar showing the Porsches.   Because I
 didn't want to spend $10K - $20K for printing and end up with paperweights
 if I were to receive a cease  desist Order from Porsche.  Sure enough,
 they claim to own the designs and therefore the images of any type showing
 their 911s - whether provided by the current owners of the cars or not!
 Talk about control!

 So you think you own your Mercedes?  Try to publish a photo of it.
 Naturally MB would only chase someone if it were a big deal...

 Ain't that a hoot??

 Surprising (to me at least) is that race cars are not copyrighted in the
 same way as production cars are, so I could publish race cars but not
 street cars.

 LarryT
 91 300d

 I suspect Mercedes would do the same thing...
 On 8/5/2013 4:15 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 the star got there at point of original manufacture by phoenix.  benz
 contracted phoenix to make it and the star was part of the design


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 So, how'd the star get on there?  Legally, originally, or by hook and
 crook? Did I miss that?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 4:00 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts


   even before production began.  the star is owned by ed by merecedes and

 only they can use or give persmission to use it


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:55 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

   In a word, lawyers. Copyright, trademarks, licensing agreements signed

 when
 production began, etc.


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'My thoughts, too, re. grinding the star.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com

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 Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:41 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts


   What isn't lear to me is why someone would take the trouble to grind
 off

 the tristar.  It's like taking a Dremel tool to the face of a genuine
 Rolex.



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Re: [MBZ] trademark Ownership, Stars and such --** WAS **Motor Mounts

2013-08-06 Thread Larry T
Speaking of owning designs and such -- back when I owned a small (very 
small) publishng company I thought it's be nice to produce some 
calendars showing the Porsche 911s owned by members of forum I 
participate in.  After collecting lots of great photos from list members 
I decided to ask Porsche for permission to publish a calendar showing 
the Porsches.   Because I didn't want to spend $10K - $20K for printing 
and end up with paperweights if I were to receive a cease  desist 
Order from Porsche.  Sure enough, they claim to own the designs and 
therefore the images of any type showing their 911s - whether provided 
by the current owners of the cars or not! Talk about control!


So you think you own your Mercedes?  Try to publish a photo of it. 
Naturally MB would only chase someone if it were a big deal...


Ain't that a hoot??

Surprising (to me at least) is that race cars are not copyrighted in the 
same way as production cars are, so I could publish race cars but not 
street cars.


LarryT
91 300d

I suspect Mercedes would do the same thing...
On 8/5/2013 4:15 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

the star got there at point of original manufacture by phoenix.  benz
contracted phoenix to make it and the star was part of the design


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


So, how'd the star get on there?  Legally, originally, or by hook and
crook? Did I miss that?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 4:00 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts


  even before production began.  the star is owned by ed by merecedes and

only they can use or give persmission to use it


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:55 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

  In a word, lawyers. Copyright, trademarks, licensing agreements signed

when
production began, etc.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'My thoughts, too, re. grinding the star.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts


  What isn't lear to me is why someone would take the trouble to grind
off

the tristar.  It's like taking a Dremel tool to the face of a genuine
Rolex.




--
OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
taxes.
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
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