Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-10 Thread John Reames
Gah.  It's a stiffer gussied-up Pacifica. 

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On Sep 7, 2010, at 17:35, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 John Freer wrote:
 I just read where all MB chassis' will have the Bluetec option except
 the C class and the SL and SLK. Didn't specify coupe vs. sedan but I
 kind of doubt it.
 
 #dmunds doesn't have any info on a E-classe diesel yet:
 http://www.edmunds.com/mercedesbenz/eclass/2011/index.html
 
 You sure Donna doesn't want a nice R-wagen instead?
 2010s are already available.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-10 Thread John Reames
The first generation ones were closely aligned with the Pacifica; the chassis 
was a stiffer version (an extra layer or two in the rocker panels, pillars and 
the roof frame, I suspect)


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On Sep 9, 2010, at 10:53, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 John Robbins wrote:
 On 9/9/2010 9:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
 To my mind that is every bit as esthetically appealing as a squashed toad.
 I agree! However, I was driven around in one when I was at a dealership a 
 while back, and they are HUGE inside.  HUGE I tell ya!
 
 Like a Chrysler minivan?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-10 Thread Hendrik Fay

Question is why do they have vanity mirrors on the drivers side?

Hendrik
who is always pondering the mysteries of the universe or Mercedes 
interiors, which is much the same thing


Rich Thomas wrote:
I tried to explain this to a woman I went cycling with a couple of 
weeks ago, she couldn't understand what the deal was with German cars 
and the lack of cupholders, or the cupholders not being in convenient 
places.  She did not understand the mentality involved.  She said they 
had owned German cars for many years.


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-10 Thread Hendrik Fay

I think the look they where after was a super sized C class wagon.

Hendrik
who has the trimmed down wagon

John Robbins wrote:

On 9/9/2010 9:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
To my mind that is every bit as esthetically appealing as a squashed 
toad.


I agree! However, I was driven around in one when I was at a 
dealership a while back, and they are HUGE inside.  HUGE I tell ya!


John





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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
To my mind that is every bit as esthetically appealing as a squashed toad.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 What's an R wagon?  I kind of doubt it, since I already have two w123
 wagons...


 I doubt it too, but here it is...
 http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/mercedesbenz/rclass/101242555/prices.html


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread John Robbins

On 9/9/2010 9:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

To my mind that is every bit as esthetically appealing as a squashed toad.


I agree! However, I was driven around in one when I was at a dealership 
a while back, and they are HUGE inside.  HUGE I tell ya!


John

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread WILTON
But my son's '07 is serving him and his family very well; 'exceptionally 
fine drive and ride, too.


Wilton

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To my mind that is every bit as esthetically appealing as a squashed toad.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:


What's an R wagon?  I kind of doubt it, since I already have two w123
wagons...



I doubt it too, but here it is...
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/mercedesbenz/rclass/101242555/prices.html


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread Mitch Haley

John Robbins wrote:

On 9/9/2010 9:08 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
To my mind that is every bit as esthetically appealing as a squashed 
toad.


I agree! However, I was driven around in one when I was at a dealership 
a while back, and they are HUGE inside.  HUGE I tell ya!


Like a Chrysler minivan?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread John Robbins

On 9/9/2010 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Like a Chrysler minivan?


Probably.

John

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread Dieselhead
nope.  the van is still a better hauler.  But the R will move a lot 
of groceries, etc.


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread OK Don
It's a German thing - form follows function. (sometimes).

On Sep 9, 2010 11:04 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 nope. the van is still a better hauler. But the R will move a lot
 of groceries, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread Rich Thomas

Cup holders -- what about cup holders?

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On 9/9/10 12:22 PM, OK Don wrote:

It's a German thing - form follows function. (sometimes).

On Sep 9, 2010 11:04 AM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

nope. the van is still a better hauler. But the R will move a lot
of groceries, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread WILTON
Surprisingly, I think my son's has some MB cup holders in front and rear/mid 
consoles; I'll confirm tonight.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI



Cup holders -- what about cup holders?

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On 9/9/10 12:22 PM, OK Don wrote:

It's a German thing - form follows function. (sometimes).

On Sep 9, 2010 11:04 AM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:


nope. the van is still a better hauler. But the R will move a lot
of groceries, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread Dieselhead

Ven  you drife, you drife!  Ven you trink, you trink!  No Trink und drife!




Cup holders -- what about cup holders?

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-09 Thread Rich Thomas
I tried to explain this to a woman I went cycling with a couple of weeks 
ago, she couldn't understand what the deal was with German cars and the 
lack of cupholders, or the cupholders not being in convenient places.  
She did not understand the mentality involved.  She said they had owned 
German cars for many years.


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Cup holders -- what about cup holders?

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-08 Thread andrew strasfogel
What's an R wagon?  I kind of doubt it, since I already have two w123
wagons...

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 John Freer wrote:

 I just read where all MB chassis' will have the Bluetec option except
 the C class and the SL and SLK. Didn't specify coupe vs. sedan but I
 kind of doubt it.


 #dmunds doesn't have any info on a E-classe diesel yet:
 http://www.edmunds.com/mercedesbenz/eclass/2011/index.html

 You sure Donna doesn't want a nice R-wagen instead?
 2010s are already available.


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-08 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

What's an R wagon?  I kind of doubt it, since I already have two w123
wagons...


I doubt it too, but here it is...
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/mercedesbenz/rclass/101242555/prices.html

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
 That does not seem like a lot to me but then again I am used to 
old cars.


On 9/6/2010 11:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I wonder what is wrong with it.



140,000 miles might have something to do with it.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 That does not seem like a lot to me but then again I am used to old cars.



25k a year is not a lot of miles for somebody who bought a new diesel, but a not 
quite six year old car with 140k on the clock should go for bottom feeder prices 
(Mitch money?) IMO. The asking price is still more than 1/4 of new.


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread Van Knutson
Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net




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On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:44:41 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

   I wonder what is wrong with it.

The listing says, AC works great blows ice cold air ...

No wonder.


Craig


Must be talking about my car, except the only time my AC blows ice cold air 
is in January.
 
DBV, also heater blows oven hot air in August information minister



  
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
 seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
 plant under it.

Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread John Freer
Yep. I was just taking poetic license as I heard an MB salesman use that term!

John

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
 seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
 plant under it.

 Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?

 Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the market
for 2011?



On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep. I was just taking poetic license as I heard an MB salesman use that
 term!

 John

 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain
 apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
  seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
 
  05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
  plant under it.
 
  Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?
 
  Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the market
for 2011?


They never sold the ForTwo diesel here, did they?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread John Freer
I just read where all MB chassis' will have the Bluetec option except
the C class and the SL and SLK. Didn't specify coupe vs. sedan but I
kind of doubt it.

John

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:07 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the market
 for 2011?



 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep. I was just taking poetic license as I heard an MB salesman use that
 term!

 John

 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain
 apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
  seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
 
  05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
  plant under it.
 
  Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?
 
  Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley

John Freer wrote:

I just read where all MB chassis' will have the Bluetec option except
the C class and the SL and SLK. Didn't specify coupe vs. sedan but I
kind of doubt it.


#dmunds doesn't have any info on a E-classe diesel yet:
http://www.edmunds.com/mercedesbenz/eclass/2011/index.html

You sure Donna doesn't want a nice R-wagen instead?
2010s are already available.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread John Freer
Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
plant under it. Only trouble I have had was the glow plugs had an
upgrade, aux battery went out and a bolt vibrated loose and messed up
the serpentine belt system All covered under warranty.

Best car I have ever owned!

John

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Uh-oh!  I've taken a peek!

 There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k.  I'm thinking 
 max. 16-17k.

 What do y'all think?  If I look, what should I look for on this?

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread WILTON

Aux battery?

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI


Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
plant under it. Only trouble I have had was the glow plugs had an
upgrade, aux battery went out and a bolt vibrated loose and messed up
the serpentine belt system All covered under warranty.

Best car I have ever owned!

John

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Uh-oh! I've taken a peek!

There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k. I'm 
thinking max. 16-17k.


What do y'all think? If I look, what should I look for on this?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread John Freer
Has 2 batteriesone to start and operate the engine, another one to
handle auxiliary functions also known as  convenience items, in MB
talk. At least, that's what the  Error Message said!

John
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:44 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Aux battery?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI


 Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
 seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
 plant under it. Only trouble I have had was the glow plugs had an
 upgrade, aux battery went out and a bolt vibrated loose and messed up
 the serpentine belt system All covered under warranty.

 Best car I have ever owned!

 John

 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Uh-oh! I've taken a peek!

 There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k. I'm
 thinking max. 16-17k.

 What do y'all think? If I look, what should I look for on this?

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread Mitch Haley


Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=28571827

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Mitch Haley wrote:


Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=28571827



Oopos, truncated that link too much:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=285718276

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread WILTON

No longer listed.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI




Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=28571827

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

 I wonder what is wrong with it.

On 9/6/2010 8:05 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Mitch Haley wrote:


Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=28571827



Oopos, truncated that link too much:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=285718276

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:44:41 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

   I wonder what is wrong with it.

The listing says, AC works great blows ice cold air ...

No wonder.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread Craig
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:46:16 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 No longer listed.

Try the second link Mitch posted. He commented it truncated the first too
much.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

2010-09-06 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I wonder what is wrong with it.



140,000 miles might have something to do with it.

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