Re: [MBZ] 124 seat bottoms

2006-12-20 Thread Ralph W

Great info Joe. Good to see you posting again.

That explains why the seats in the '87 feel so much different than the'90. 
Dave also has a couple of nice pics on his website of the foam blocks. I 
assume I can get them from Rusty?


I wonder if they will completely cure my problem. I seem to sink into the 
rear center of the seat. Could there be broken springs similar to what 
happens on 123 seats?


Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD 






Re: [MBZ] 124 seat bottoms

2006-12-20 Thread Joe Knight

Broken springs can certainly be a fly in the ointment, Ralph.  But if
the seat frames are intact and the cushions not completely worn out
I'll warrant that you'll have a hard time believing the effect that 2
little foam blocks placed between the coils across the front of the
seat can have.  Dave posted to that effect and I can only confirm his
stated impression.  Don't know what they cost now but I paid 7 
change per for the 4 I got earlier in the year.  I should state that
probably early last year I completely disassembled my seats, confirmed
no broken springs, and stitched several layers of synthetic burlap
stretched as tightly as I could to the tops of the frames.  That had
some small effect but nothing compared to the blocks.

-joe



Re: [MBZ] 124 seat bottoms

2006-12-19 Thread Joe Knight

With the seat electrics involved separation of the seat back from the
bottom is kind of a pita.  btdt.  Additionally, the seat memory for
the driver's seat would require that you interchange the control
modules if you want to retain that feature.  If your seat bottom is
just 'flaccid', there's a much easier fix that'll make a world of
difference.  After about 04/89, there were installed universally at
the factory 2 foam blocks in each front seat.  I just last week
finally got around to installing those into the seats of my wagon and
they completely transformed the seat.  It was Dave Meimann I believe
who first discovered that this is a factory specified fix for the
problem as indicated in the Programmed Repairs section of the fsm in
group 91.  You'll also find some similar documentation at his website
that I believe came from the WIS.  Look for 'seat boost' at:
http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W124/  
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stuff/.

I said it's easier than swapping.  That's assuming you haven't found a
pristine junkyard seat with which to replace the entire assembly.
You'll still have to pull the seat and a couple of plastic trim pieces
and tease the cushion bottom out of the channel in the frame.  As it'd
been a while since I'd had the front seats out it took me probably 2.5
hours soup to nuts for the driver's side.  Couple of days later with
that more recent experience under my belt I did the passenger side in
1.5 hrs.  If they're not already broken don't be surprised if you do
break at least one of those plastic trims trying to get them off;
fortunately they're not horrendously expensive to replace.

-j



Re: [MBZ] 124 seat bottoms

2006-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Not quite as easy as on a 123.

Ralph W wrote:


Anybody know if seat bottoms on a 124 power seat are as easily interchanged as 
on 123's? My new wagon is in serious need of a rebuild. Zedic probably didn't 
notice it as I probably weigh 60 lbs more than he does.

Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD
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