Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-11-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Spray cans are for seller's side gig as a graffiti artist.

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> Oh yeah, you’d certainly have to get that $ amount down.
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> > Paint looks scary but it could simply be how oxidation looks on white
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> > paint. Rattle cans in trunk are worrisome (brake cleaner or starting
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> Looks pretty rough for the amount of money being asked.
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-11-28 Thread Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
Oh yeah, you’d certainly have to get that $ amount down.  AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Randy Bennell via MercedesSent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 9:43 AMTo: Robert Rentfro via MercedesCc: Randy BennellSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D On 28/11/2023 10:36 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1102029774255275/> > I’d like to be able to put my eyes on this. Again, unknown > registration status in PRK.> > Paint looks scary but it could simply be how oxidation looks on white > paint. Rattle cans in trunk are worrisome (brake cleaner or starting > fluid?), dash is solid it appears, steering wheel has slightly more > than the requisite cracks, and the white walls makes my heart happy.> > AZBob> Looks pretty rough for the amount of money being asked. Randy___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-11-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 

On 28/11/2023 10:36 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1102029774255275/

I’d like to be able to put my eyes on this. Again, unknown 
registration status in PRK.


Paint looks scary but it could simply be how oxidation looks on white 
paint. Rattle cans in trunk are worrisome (brake cleaner or starting 
fluid?), dash is solid it appears, steering wheel has slightly more 
than the requisite cracks, and the white walls makes my heart happy.


AZBob


Looks pretty rough for the amount of money being asked.

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-09-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
It’s not a dealbreaker, especially if the seller’s reasoning is, well, 
reasonable. It does look pretty good.

-D

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> I’m mean really? Car looks really great otherwise. 
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>> On Sep 4, 2023, at 3:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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>> Gives me a lot of confidence in the seller and their ability to properly 
>> maintain the car. Too bad, as it’s not bd looking from the photos.
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>> -D
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>> Sweet electrical tape repair. See it?
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-09-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
I’m mean really? Car looks really great otherwise. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2023, at 3:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Gives me a lot of confidence in the seller and their ability to properly 
> maintain the car. Too bad, as it’s not bd looking from the photos.
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> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-09-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
Gives me a lot of confidence in the seller and their ability to properly 
maintain the car. Too bad, as it’s not bd looking from the photos.

-D

On Sep 4, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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Sweet electrical tape repair. See it?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1216493399750283/

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D

2023-09-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
Reminds me of the dearly departed Frankenheap.
Gray/red W115 with a stickshift.  Wing windows.

Mine was a 200D, without any AC accommodation,
so the console was much more svelte.  Also had a
column shifter.  Disconnected, and with a floor shifter
butchered into it.  Hence, Franken.

I bought it for $100, not $7,000!

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Gary Hurst 
i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they are the
reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D


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 gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs.  What information do I need to and
 where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild these
 things?  Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Dan Penoff 
Mike,

Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at www.jaimekop.com, 
I believe.

Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done a great 
deal of work on them.

Dan

 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they are the
 reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith Stromberg
 carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's?  I have
 friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted  inline 6 cylinder
 gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs.  What information do I need to and
 where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild these
 things?  Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
 
 Thanks, Mike
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Jim Cathey 
1970 220 D with a transplanted  inline 6 cylinder gasoline engine with 
dual zenith Carbs.


Weird.  I thought the 114 body was the 115 with a longer nose,
suitable for the I6 engine instead of the 4's.  So how did they
get a M130 into the 115?

Anyway, there's an online manual for the Zenith.  I thought I
had a copy, but I don't see anything now.

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Esh 

Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect.

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Mike,

Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at www.jaimekop.com, 
I believe.

Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done a great 
deal of work on them.

Dan


On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they are the
reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith Stromberg
carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have
friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder
gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need to and
where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild these
things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
Thanks, Mike
Michael E. Esh
me...@horizonenv.com
 
michael...@mac.com
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Rich Thomas 

You forgot to thank DrFatty for his useful assistance.

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Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect.

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Mike,

Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at 
www.jaimekop.com, I believe.


Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done a 
great deal of work on them.


Dan


On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they 
are the

reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith 
Stromberg

carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have
friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder
gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need 
to and
where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild 
these

things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
Thanks, Mike
Michael E. Esh
me...@horizonenv.com

michael...@mac.com

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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Randy Bennell 

Be nice.

I suspect there would be a lot of folks who agree with Gary including me.

Randy

On 27/09/2013 9:53 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

You forgot to thank DrFatty for his useful assistance.

--R


On 9/27/13 10:27 AM, Mike Esh wrote:

Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect.

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On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


Mike,

Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at 
www.jaimekop.com, I believe.


Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done 
a great deal of work on them.


Dan

On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com 
wrote:
i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they 
are the

reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith 
Stromberg

carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have
friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder
gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need 
to and
where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild 
these

things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
Thanks, Mike
Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Gary Hurst 
i was once promoting a fake booklet i was calling dude, yer car's on
fire:  the definitive guide to maintenance and tuning of zenith carburetors
for mercedes

i find it difficult to love deforming pot metal bodied fuel spewing death
traps, but others do love them and i'm quite ok with that.  i mean, really,
it's not so much the actual liquid gasoline that is flammable but the
vapors, so i guess it really isn't that bad a design flaw


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Be nice.

 I suspect there would be a lot of folks who agree with Gary including me.

 Randy


 On 27/09/2013 9:53 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 You forgot to thank DrFatty for his useful assistance.

 --R


 On 9/27/13 10:27 AM, Mike Esh wrote:

 Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect.

 Michael E. Esh
 me...@horizonenv.com
 michael...@mac.com
 http://www.yugster.com/invite/**138123http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123
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 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  Mike,

 Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at
 www.jaimekop.com, I believe.

 Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done a
 great deal of work on them.

 Dan

  On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they are
 the
 reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D

 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
 Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith
 Stromberg
 carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have
 friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder
 gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need to
 and
 where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild
 these
 things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
 Thanks, Mike
 Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread OK Don 
The nose of the W115 was stretched for the OM617 engine to make the 300D. I
don't know if it's the same as the 6 cyl. vergasser versions or not.
Now, getting the 6 cyl. vergasser engine into the '70 220D must have been
challenging . . .


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 Weird.  I thought the 114 body was the 115 with a longer nose,
 suitable for the I6 engine instead of the 4's.  So how did they
 get a M130 into the 115?




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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Jaime Kopchinski 
The secret to Zeniths is to just get a car with low miles and hasn't been
overheated and abused.  At least, thats the easy way to get good ones.

Actually, thats the secret to getting a nice old car overall.

Jaime



On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 i was once promoting a fake booklet i was calling dude, yer car's on
 fire:  the definitive guide to maintenance and tuning of zenith carburetors
 for mercedes

 i find it difficult to love deforming pot metal bodied fuel spewing death
 traps, but others do love them and i'm quite ok with that.  i mean, really,
 it's not so much the actual liquid gasoline that is flammable but the
 vapors, so i guess it really isn't that bad a design flaw


 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:

  Be nice.
 
  I suspect there would be a lot of folks who agree with Gary including me.
 
  Randy
 
 
  On 27/09/2013 9:53 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
 
  You forgot to thank DrFatty for his useful assistance.
 
  --R
 
 
  On 9/27/13 10:27 AM, Mike Esh wrote:
 
  Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect.
 
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  On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
   Mike,
 
  Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at
  www.jaimekop.com, I believe.
 
  Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done a
  great deal of work on them.
 
  Dan
 
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  wrote:
  i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they are
  the
  reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D
 
  On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com
 wrote:
  Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith
  Stromberg
  carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I have
  friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6 cylinder
  gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need
 to
  and
  where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild
  these
  things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
  Thanks, Mike
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread Gary Hurst 
little tommy liked the daewoo even though it is a POS cobbled together by
jamaicans


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 The secret to Zeniths is to just get a car with low miles and hasn't been
 overheated and abused.  At least, thats the easy way to get good ones.

 Actually, thats the secret to getting a nice old car overall.

 Jaime



 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  i was once promoting a fake booklet i was calling dude, yer car's on
  fire:  the definitive guide to maintenance and tuning of zenith
 carburetors
  for mercedes
 
  i find it difficult to love deforming pot metal bodied fuel spewing death
  traps, but others do love them and i'm quite ok with that.  i mean,
 really,
  it's not so much the actual liquid gasoline that is flammable but the
  vapors, so i guess it really isn't that bad a design flaw
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
  wrote:
 
   Be nice.
  
   I suspect there would be a lot of folks who agree with Gary including
 me.
  
   Randy
  
  
   On 27/09/2013 9:53 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
  
   You forgot to thank DrFatty for his useful assistance.
  
   --R
  
  
   On 9/27/13 10:27 AM, Mike Esh wrote:
  
   Thanks Dan and Jamie, this is perfect.
  
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   On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
  
Mike,
  
   Jaime has all the documentation for these on his web site at
   www.jaimekop.com, I believe.
  
   Let me know if you have questions. I love the Zeniths and have done
 a
   great deal of work on them.
  
   Dan
  
On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   i know nothing about them other than that i despise them and they
 are
   the
   reason why i only drove cars ending in E or D
  
   On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com
  wrote:
   Does anyone have a schematic or information on the dual Zenith
   Stromberg
   carburetors used on the 6 cyl mercedes engines in the 1970's? I
 have
   friend who bought a 1970 220 D with a transplanted inline 6
 cylinder
   gasoline engine with dual zenith Carbs. What information do I need
  to
   and
   where do I find it on the carbs or engine to enable us to rebuild
   these
   things? Any guidance or recommendations are welcome.
   Thanks, Mike
   Michael E. Esh
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 220D with 6 cyl gas engine

2013-09-27 Thread dseretakis 
As far as I know the W114 body differs from the W115 with respect to the number 
of spot welds. A W115 has more closely spaced welds giving the body the 
necessary extra strength needed for taxi and other utilitarian duty often seen 
by diesels.

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On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 1970 220 D with a transplanted  inline 6 cylinder gasoline engine with dual 
 zenith Carbs.
 
 Weird.  I thought the 114 body was the 115 with a longer nose,
 suitable for the I6 engine instead of the 4's.  So how did they
 get a M130 into the 115?
 
 Anyway, there's an online manual for the Zenith.  I thought I
 had a copy, but I don't see anything now.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
 
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