Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same. The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a transaxle... When my 1977 Saab was made, the spec was SAE 70 gear oil, I forget the GL number, but it was sulfur free and nearly odorless. By the mid 1980s, the recomendation had changed to SAE 30 (or maybe 10W30, can't remember for sure) motor oil. IIRC, it shifted a bit nicer with the proper (hard to find) gear oil than with 5W30 M1 in it. Chrysler's 1980s transaxles took motor oil in early years, then Dexron II or III later. AFAIK there was no mechanical change when the fluid changed. IIRC, my 1989 Horizon was happier with 5W30 M1 than with the Dexron that the factory put in it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Currently I've got Redline MTL and MT-90 mixed in the Jetta 50/50 but I'm thinking to switch it to all MTL this fall. The MTL is a little thinner and should shift easier in the cold. The factory VW stuff is very thin and can be noisy in older cars. The mix wasn't bad last winter but would be stiff for the first couple shifts at below zero temps. I want to change again because the stuff that came out last fall was nasty and smelled bad. I've put 15,000 miles on the car and the trans is way quieter now... Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same. The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a transaxle... When my 1977 Saab was made, the spec was SAE 70 gear oil, I forget the GL number, but it was sulfur free and nearly odorless. By the mid 1980s, the recomendation had changed to SAE 30 (or maybe 10W30, can't remember for sure) motor oil. IIRC, it shifted a bit nicer with the proper (hard to find) gear oil than with 5W30 M1 in it. Chrysler's 1980s transaxles took motor oil in early years, then Dexron II or III later. AFAIK there was no mechanical change when the fluid changed. IIRC, my 1989 Horizon was happier with 5W30 M1 than with the Dexron that the factory put in it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Redline MTL has worked like magic in every stick box i've put it in; i wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. cheers! e On 24/Jul/14 10:06, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Currently I've got Redline MTL and MT-90 mixed in the Jetta 50/50 but I'm thinking to switch it to all MTL this fall. The MTL is a little thinner and should shift easier in the cold. The factory VW stuff is very thin and can be noisy in older cars. The mix wasn't bad last winter but would be stiff for the first couple shifts at below zero temps. I want to change again because the stuff that came out last fall was nasty and smelled bad. I've put 15,000 miles on the car and the trans is way quieter now... Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same. The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a transaxle... When my 1977 Saab was made, the spec was SAE 70 gear oil, I forget the GL number, but it was sulfur free and nearly odorless. By the mid 1980s, the recomendation had changed to SAE 30 (or maybe 10W30, can't remember for sure) motor oil. IIRC, it shifted a bit nicer with the proper (hard to find) gear oil than with 5W30 M1 in it. Chrysler's 1980s transaxles took motor oil in early years, then Dexron II or III later. AFAIK there was no mechanical change when the fluid changed. IIRC, my 1989 Horizon was happier with 5W30 M1 than with the Dexron that the factory put in it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
i used MTL in both my VW rabbit and 220D with good results On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:36 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Redline MTL has worked like magic in every stick box i've put it in; i wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. cheers! e On 24/Jul/14 10:06, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Currently I've got Redline MTL and MT-90 mixed in the Jetta 50/50 but I'm thinking to switch it to all MTL this fall. The MTL is a little thinner and should shift easier in the cold. The factory VW stuff is very thin and can be noisy in older cars. The mix wasn't bad last winter but would be stiff for the first couple shifts at below zero temps. I want to change again because the stuff that came out last fall was nasty and smelled bad. I've put 15,000 miles on the car and the trans is way quieter now... Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same. The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a transaxle... When my 1977 Saab was made, the spec was SAE 70 gear oil, I forget the GL number, but it was sulfur free and nearly odorless. By the mid 1980s, the recomendation had changed to SAE 30 (or maybe 10W30, can't remember for sure) motor oil. IIRC, it shifted a bit nicer with the proper (hard to find) gear oil than with 5W30 M1 in it. Chrysler's 1980s transaxles took motor oil in early years, then Dexron II or III later. AFAIK there was no mechanical change when the fluid changed. IIRC, my 1989 Horizon was happier with 5W30 M1 than with the Dexron that the factory put in it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Max wrote: +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Dwight wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. Craig wrote: Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Dwight wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. Curt wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. Curious. The manual transmissions I'm familiar with are either old, heavy duty, or Mercedes. And the W123 all use Dexron II for the manual transmission. My GM 4-speed pickup (117 mm) requires 80W90 GL-5 gear oil. The big truck transmissions I'm familiar with use either 50W or 75-80W90 gear oil. I just checked my '85 GM factory service manual. The 3-speed and the small 4-speed use DexronII. The big 117mm 4-speed uses 80W90. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Was that for big trucks? My '88 was only an S15... -Curt From: Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue Max wrote: +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Dwight wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. Craig wrote: Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Dwight wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. Curt wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. Curious. The manual transmissions I'm familiar with are either old, heavy duty, or Mercedes. And the W123 all use Dexron II for the manual transmission. My GM 4-speed pickup (117 mm) requires 80W90 GL-5 gear oil. The big truck transmissions I'm familiar with use either 50W or 75-80W90 gear oil. I just checked my '85 GM factory service manual. The 3-speed and the small 4-speed use DexronII. The big 117mm 4-speed uses 80W90. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Was that for big trucks? My '88 was only an S15... S-15s used the Tremec T-5, same as the Mustangs/Camaros etc. Except I don't think the company was called Tremec in 1988. I assume the T-5 was an ATF box. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Dwight wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. Craig wrote: Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Dwight wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. Curt wrote: Thats spec for most manual transmissions. Fmiser wrote: Curious. The manual transmissions I'm familiar with are either old, heavy duty, or Mercedes. And the W123 all use Dexron II for the manual transmission. My GM 4-speed pickup (117 mm) requires 80W90 GL-5 gear oil. The big truck transmissions I'm familiar with use either 50W or 75-80W90 gear oil. I just checked my '85 GM factory service manual. The 3-speed and the small 4-speed use DexronII. The big 117mm 4-speed uses 80W90. Curt wrote: Was that for big trucks? My '88 was only an S15... The term big truck to me means class 7 or greater. The 117mm transmission (also called SM465) wasn't ever used in those. It was used in 1/2 ton (class 1), and maybe through the 2-ton (class 3) - which are typically referred to as light duty. So big as compared to the mini-pickups, but not really a big truck. *smiles* -- Philip, who once earned a living driving big trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
as for fluid, i'd try some trick shift On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:35 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Question for the list: Last year I had a used tranny installed in my 1980 300SD. The tranny was from a recycler in AZ. It supposedly only had 95K on it. My indie installed it. He said everything looked good and really clean, but it had been sitting in a really dry environment for who knows how long. So, the issue, it slips when shifting once it gets warm/hot. When it's first cold, it shifts fine. Once hot, if you let if shift at low RPMs, it shifts fine. If you give it hard acceleration up to about 35 mph and let off, it will jump from 1st to 4th and bypass 2/3 and shift fine that way. At 35 mph, 4th gear is fine for acceleration to driving speed. My indie felt that I should just keep driving it and hope the internal seals would get saturated and then it would start shifting fine. It has not. Now, my question is: 1) Should I try synthetic fluid to see if it will swell the seals, 2) try some of the MacParts trans medic solutions, 3) is this an issue that could be repaired reasonably? Again, my indie, like most, like to swap parts, not repair parts. Otherwise, it is and has been a good car. Any thoughts or suggestions that would help would be greatly appreciated. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Roger, quick reply. I have used M1 ATF in 3 MB trannies. 1 is still In Progress but shifts better, flaring stopped, downshift clunks gone etc. Miracle fluid. Fred said it might take 10k miles to feel difference. My 90 has 239k miles on original tranny- last 110k on M1 shifrs like new. YMMV On Jul 23, 2014 8:36 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Question for the list: Last year I had a used tranny installed in my 1980 300SD. The tranny was from a recycler in AZ. It supposedly only had 95K on it. My indie installed it. He said everything looked good and really clean, but it had been sitting in a really dry environment for who knows how long. So, the issue, it slips when shifting once it gets warm/hot. When it's first cold, it shifts fine. Once hot, if you let if shift at low RPMs, it shifts fine. If you give it hard acceleration up to about 35 mph and let off, it will jump from 1st to 4th and bypass 2/3 and shift fine that way. At 35 mph, 4th gear is fine for acceleration to driving speed. My indie felt that I should just keep driving it and hope the internal seals would get saturated and then it would start shifting fine. It has not. Now, my question is: 1) Should I try synthetic fluid to see if it will swell the seals, 2) try some of the MacParts trans medic solutions, 3) is this an issue that could be repaired reasonably? Again, my indie, like most, like to swap parts, not repair parts. Otherwise, it is and has been a good car. Any thoughts or suggestions that would help would be greatly appreciated. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
+1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. On Jul 23, 2014 6:47 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
ATF is, I don't know about M1, though I did use it in the '70 220D, '81 240D, and '84 190D - all with manual tranny's. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Craig -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
My brother had it done so I will check records. Tranny wss fine. This is the deadhead 240D curt has. On Jul 23, 2014 8:09 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ATF is, I don't know about M1, though I did use it in the '70 220D, '81 240D, and '84 190D - all with manual tranny's. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Craig -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:46:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. Sounds like you need to find a new indy shop. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue
Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same. The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a transaxle... -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. On Jul 23, 2014 6:47 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.