Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If they need it. If they don't have any cracks or obvious damage, why bother? 
After all, this is a bottom feeder car, right? You should even reuse the bolts 
and just out som LocTite on them when reassembling.

-D

> On May 10, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well if I recall you gotta take it all apart anyway to get at the bearing so 
> might as well do the disks?
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 5/10/17 9:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would concur. I've never heard a noise from a bad flex disc. When the 
>> center bearings get noisy or the bearing carrier fails, you'll get the 
>> "rum-rum-rum" noise at or above a certain speed, and it will change in 
>> frequency with a corresponding change in speed.
>> 
>> The 300SEL had a really thrashed bearing carrier. It was fine until about 60 
>> mph, at which it would start making itself known. This often manifests 
>> itself as a vibration in the seat or body, not necessarily something audible.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> the whumping is probably a bad rubber mount for the center bearing.
>>> 
 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 May 10, 2017 at 8:31 AM
 This 560SEC I got is making some whumping sounds so I'm thinking it will 
 need FD's changed soon.  I think I have a rear one I got for one of the 
 SDs, I'll have to see if it is the same part # then get a front and a 
 bearing if it has one.
 
 --FT
 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well if I recall you gotta take it all apart anyway to get at the 
bearing so might as well do the disks?


--R


On 5/10/17 9:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I would concur. I've never heard a noise from a bad flex disc. When the center bearings 
get noisy or the bearing carrier fails, you'll get the "rum-rum-rum" noise at 
or above a certain speed, and it will change in frequency with a corresponding change in 
speed.

The 300SEL had a really thrashed bearing carrier. It was fine until about 60 
mph, at which it would start making itself known. This often manifests itself 
as a vibration in the seat or body, not necessarily something audible.

-D


On May 10, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

the whumping is probably a bad rubber mount for the center bearing.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 8:31 AM
This 560SEC I got is making some whumping sounds so I'm thinking it will need 
FD's changed soon.  I think I have a rear one I got for one of the SDs, I'll 
have to see if it is the same part # then get a front and a bearing if it has 
one.

--FT


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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I would concur. I've never heard a noise from a bad flex disc. When the center 
bearings get noisy or the bearing carrier fails, you'll get the "rum-rum-rum" 
noise at or above a certain speed, and it will change in frequency with a 
corresponding change in speed.

The 300SEL had a really thrashed bearing carrier. It was fine until about 60 
mph, at which it would start making itself known. This often manifests itself 
as a vibration in the seat or body, not necessarily something audible.

-D

> On May 10, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> the whumping is probably a bad rubber mount for the center bearing.
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> May 10, 2017 at 8:31 AM
>> This 560SEC I got is making some whumping sounds so I'm thinking it will 
>> need FD's changed soon.  I think I have a rear one I got for one of the SDs, 
>> I'll have to see if it is the same part # then get a front and a bearing if 
>> it has one.
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the whumping is probably a bad rubber mount for the center bearing.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 8:31 AM
This 560SEC I got is making some whumping sounds so I'm thinking it 
will need FD's changed soon.  I think I have a rear one I got for one 
of the SDs, I'll have to see if it is the same part # then get a front 
and a bearing if it has one.


--FT



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This 560SEC I got is making some whumping sounds so I'm thinking it will 
need FD's changed soon.  I think I have a rear one I got for one of the 
SDs, I'll have to see if it is the same part # then get a front and a 
bearing if it has one.


--FT


On 5/10/17 8:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

They give plenty of warning for sure.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 9, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I've never had that happen.  There are plenty of warning signs before the flex 
disk lets go completely.  I have seen some pretty sad, and the FL-POS had NO 
flex disk, but it could still move on its own power.  I have not lost my mind, 
I have over 45 years of working on MBs, and the flex disk is something I check 
regularly.  I have replaced plenty of them.  The lock nut is tightened very 
tight at the factory.  A properly installed driveshaft does not just slide 
around like a F150.
You don't need to resort to calling names.
I've lost count, but I've probably owned or worked on around 50 MBs.  Granted, 
only the FL- POS was a kleb car.  THe others either had good care or benign 
neglect.  Benign neglect is far better than being mechaniced to death like the 
FL-POS.  By 1978 I was up to about 15 or so.  I still have that notebook.

And yes, I have seen the pictures of the cars where the shaft came lose, and 
were owned and serviced by idiots.

Even my daughter who has never turned a wrench can tell when a flex disk is 
getting soft.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 6:35 PM
No offense to Curley but he has lost his mind on this one. It would have to be 
very very lucky for the shaft to somehow stay connected to the trans when the 
disk lets go. This is what usually happens

http://dieselgiant.com/Mercedes%20flex%20disc%20failure.htm


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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They give plenty of warning for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've never had that happen.  There are plenty of warning signs before the 
> flex disk lets go completely.  I have seen some pretty sad, and the FL-POS 
> had NO flex disk, but it could still move on its own power.  I have not lost 
> my mind, I have over 45 years of working on MBs, and the flex disk is 
> something I check regularly.  I have replaced plenty of them.  The lock nut 
> is tightened very tight at the factory.  A properly installed driveshaft does 
> not just slide around like a F150.
> You don't need to resort to calling names.
> I've lost count, but I've probably owned or worked on around 50 MBs.  
> Granted, only the FL- POS was a kleb car.  THe others either had good care or 
> benign neglect.  Benign neglect is far better than being mechaniced to death 
> like the FL-POS.  By 1978 I was up to about 15 or so.  I still have that 
> notebook.
> 
> And yes, I have seen the pictures of the cars where the shaft came lose, and 
> were owned and serviced by idiots.
> 
> Even my daughter who has never turned a wrench can tell when a flex disk is 
> getting soft.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 6:35 PM
>> No offense to Curley but he has lost his mind on this one. It would have to 
>> be very very lucky for the shaft to somehow stay connected to the trans when 
>> the disk lets go. This is what usually happens
>> 
>> http://dieselgiant.com/Mercedes%20flex%20disc%20failure.htm
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think it's time you two took your conversation about nuts and shafts off
line

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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

not if the nut has been tightened down properly for the life of the car.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 8:29 PM
I'm pretty sure even when they are tight the shaft will still slide back



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

if it was a car made after 1975 or so, it was probably muhammad, not 
Herman who was supposed to tighten the nut.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM
Either Herman the German never tightened them from the factory or when 
being worked on at dealers early in their life they never got tightened.




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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

and of those, how many did you get from Kaleb?

Then they had all been monkeyed with by idiots.


OK Don via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 7:14 PM
Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had 
tghe nut

properly tightened. They all slid back easily.



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

And THAT is DESIGNED to keep them from falling out and flopping around.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM
Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done. It’s supposed 
to be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of 
the shaft.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

cause you only buy POS that have been screwed up by idiots.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 7:06 PM
Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing 
the big nut.




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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

exactly, and a driveshaft that has NOT been messed up by idiots does NOT 
slide fore and aft (until you loosen the big nut.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 6:48 PM
Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on 
it. Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I've never had that happen.  There are plenty of warning signs before 
the flex disk lets go completely.  I have seen some pretty sad, and the 
FL-POS had NO flex disk, but it could still move on its own power.  I 
have not lost my mind, I have over 45 years of working on MBs, and the 
flex disk is something I check regularly.  I have replaced plenty of 
them.  The lock nut is tightened very tight at the factory.  A properly 
installed driveshaft does not just slide around like a F150.

You don't need to resort to calling names.
 I've lost count, but I've probably owned or worked on around 50 MBs.  
Granted, only the FL- POS was a kleb car.  THe others either had good 
care or benign neglect.  Benign neglect is far better than being 
mechaniced to death like the FL-POS.  By 1978 I was up to about 15 or 
so.  I still have that notebook.


And yes, I have seen the pictures of the cars where the shaft came lose, 
and were owned and serviced by idiots.


Even my daughter who has never turned a wrench can tell when a flex disk 
is getting soft.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 6:35 PM
No offense to Curley but he has lost his mind on this one. It would 
have to be very very lucky for the shaft to somehow stay connected to 
the trans when the disk lets go. This is what usually happens


http://dieselgiant.com/Mercedes%20flex%20disc%20failure.htm



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

and if the driveshaft has never been out, the splines are so stiff/rusty 
on some cars that you can't get the splines to move.  I've had to drop 
the diff to get a driveshaft out.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 6:30 PM
Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for 
quite a bit of lateral movement
except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff 
flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans 
is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  
Yes each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in 
practice the driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen 
some with splines rusted together.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
What he said….




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Craig via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 4:42 PM
On Tue, 9 May 2017 16:32:37 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
  wrote:


The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive
shaft, can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but
suspect that there is


There is.


- this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could drive
the car. All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many
flex disks in the distant past . . .


If the driveshaft doesn't telescope and shorten its length, the geometry
would indeed allow the engine to drive the car. If it does shorten,
however, things will get very bad very quickly.


Craig

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OK Don via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 4:32 PM
The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive shaft,
can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but suspect that
there is - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could
drive the car.
All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many flex 
disks in

the distant past . . .

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <




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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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I'm pretty sure even when they are tight the shaft will still slide back

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> On May 9, 2017, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I did tighten one once after re-assembling it, but that was jsut to try it.
> I could not tell any difference. They all just slid apart, which makes it
> mush easier to drop the shaft when replacing the flex disks.
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Either Herman the German never tightened them from the factory or when
>> being worked on at dealers early in their life they never got tightened.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:20:27 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess
 with that nut.
>>> 
>>> I did not have to mess with that nut when I worked on our '82 240D/3.0
>>> either, but Dan is right, the nut is supposed to be tightened. There is a
>>> picture in the shop manual with two very-long-handled wrenches turning
>> it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had
> tghe nut properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s
>> supposed to be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft
>> movement of the shaft.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing
>>> the
>> big nut.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
>> it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
 
 -D
 
 
> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's
> for
>> quite a bit of lateral movement
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
>> Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The
>> trans is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is
>> fixed.  Yes each will move a little due to flexing and vibration,
>> but in practice the driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I
>> have seen some with splines rusted together.
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
>>> What he said….
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I did tighten one once after re-assembling it, but that was jsut to try it.
I could not tell any difference. They all just slid apart, which makes it
mush easier to drop the shaft when replacing the flex disks.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Either Herman the German never tightened them from the factory or when
> being worked on at dealers early in their life they never got tightened.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:20:27 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess
> >> with that nut.
> >
> > I did not have to mess with that nut when I worked on our '82 240D/3.0
> > either, but Dan is right, the nut is supposed to be tightened. There is a
> > picture in the shop manual with two very-long-handled wrenches turning
> it.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
> >>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had
> >>> tghe nut properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s
>  supposed to be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft
>  movement of the shaft.
> 
>  -D
> 
> 
> > On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing
> > the
>  big nut.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
>  it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's
> >>> for
>  quite a bit of lateral movement
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
>  Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The
>  trans is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is
>  fixed.  Yes each will move a little due to flexing and vibration,
>  but in practice the driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I
>  have seen some with splines rusted together.
> 
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
> > What he said….
> >
> 
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> >>> many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Either Herman the German never tightened them from the factory or when being 
worked on at dealers early in their life they never got tightened.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:20:27 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess
>> with that nut.
> 
> I did not have to mess with that nut when I worked on our '82 240D/3.0
> either, but Dan is right, the nut is supposed to be tightened. There is a
> picture in the shop manual with two very-long-handled wrenches turning it.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had
>>> tghe nut properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s
 supposed to be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft
 movement of the shaft.
 
 -D
 
 
> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing
> the
 big nut.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
 it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's
>>> for
 quite a bit of lateral movement
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
 Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The
 trans is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is
 fixed.  Yes each will move a little due to flexing and vibration,
 but in practice the driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I
 have seen some with splines rusted together.
 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
> What he said….
> 
 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
>>> many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
>>> few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
>>> electric fence for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am well aware of that. I am simply saying on the hundreds of cars I have 
worked on none required the nut to be loosened 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is for a W126, but the process is the same for all.  See this for the 
> procedure.  Make note of step #18:
> 
> http://w124-zone.com/downloads/MB%20CD/W124/w124CD2/Program/Chassis/41-050.pdf#page=29
> 
> 30-40 Nm to tighten.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess with 
>> that nut.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had tghe nut
>>> properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s supposed to
 be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of the
 shaft.
 
 -D
 
 
> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the
 big nut.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
 it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for
 quite a bit of lateral movement
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
 Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans
 is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes
 each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the
 driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines
 rusted together.
 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
> What he said….
> 
 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>>> ___
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:20:27 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess
> with that nut.

I did not have to mess with that nut when I worked on our '82 240D/3.0
either, but Dan is right, the nut is supposed to be tightened. There is a
picture in the shop manual with two very-long-handled wrenches turning it.


Craig



> > On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had
> > tghe nut properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
> > 
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s
> >> supposed to be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft
> >> movement of the shaft.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing
> >>> the
> >> big nut.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
>  On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  
>  Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
> >> it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
>  
>  -D
>  
>  
> > On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's
> > for
> >> quite a bit of lateral movement
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
> >> Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The
> >> trans is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is
> >> fixed.  Yes each will move a little due to flexing and vibration,
> >> but in practice the driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I
> >> have seen some with splines rusted together.
> >> 
> >>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >>> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
> >>> What he said….
> >>> 
> >> 
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> > 
> > -- 
> > OK Don
> > 
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
> > many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> > 
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> > few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
> > electric fence for themselves."
> > 
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is for a W126, but the process is the same for all.  See this for the 
procedure.  Make note of step #18:

http://w124-zone.com/downloads/MB%20CD/W124/w124CD2/Program/Chassis/41-050.pdf#page=29

30-40 Nm to tighten.

-D



> On May 9, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess with 
> that nut.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had tghe nut
>> properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
>> 
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s supposed to
>>> be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of the
>>> shaft.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the
>>> big nut.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
>>> it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for
>>> quite a bit of lateral movement
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
>>> Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans
>>> is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes
>>> each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the
>>> driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines
>>> rusted together.
>>> 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
 What he said….
 
>>> 
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>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

In the nearly 30 years I have been working on these I have yet to mess with 
that nut.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 7:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had tghe nut
> properly tightened. They all slid back easily.
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s supposed to
>> be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of the
>> shaft.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the
>> big nut.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
>> it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
 
 -D
 
 
> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for
>> quite a bit of lateral movement
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
>> Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans
>> is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes
>> each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the
>> driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines
>> rusted together.
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
>>> What he said….
>>> 
>> 
>> ___
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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Well all I can say I have replaced them that were obviously original and never 
been touched and didn't have to loosen the nut. 

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> On May 9, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s supposed to be 
> tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of the shaft.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the big 
>> nut. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on it.  
>>> Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for quite 
 a bit of lateral movement 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff 
> flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans is 
> fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes 
> each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the 
> driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with 
> splines rusted together.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
>> What he said….
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Then none of the 10 or so cars I've replaced the disks on have had tghe nut
properly tightened. They all slid back easily.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s supposed to
> be tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of the
> shaft.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the
> big nut.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on
> it.  Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for
> quite a bit of lateral movement
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the
> Diff flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans
> is fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes
> each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the
> driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines
> rusted together.
> 
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
> > What he said….
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Then someone didn’t tighten the nut when they were done.  It’s supposed to be 
tightened and by doing so you limit the fore and aft movement of the shaft.

-D


> On May 9, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the big 
> nut. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on it.  
>> Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for quite a 
>>> bit of lateral movement 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff 
 flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans is 
 fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes 
 each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the 
 driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with 
 splines rusted together.
 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
> What he said….
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Every car I have worked on it pretty much slid back without loosing the big 
nut. 

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> On May 9, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on it.  
> Under normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for quite a 
>> bit of lateral movement 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff 
>>> flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans is 
>>> fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes each 
>>> will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the 
>>> driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines 
>>> rusted together.
>>> 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
 What he said….
 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, you slide the drive shaft back AFTER you loosen the big nut on it.  Under 
normal operation it doesn’t move fore and aft.

-D


> On May 9, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for quite a 
> bit of lateral movement 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff flops 
>> up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans is fixed.  
>> the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes each will 
>> move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the driveshaft 
>> length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines rusted 
>> together.
>> 
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>>> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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No offense to Curley but he has lost his mind on this one. It would have to be 
very very lucky for the shaft to somehow stay connected to the trans when the 
disk lets go. This is what usually happens

http://dieselgiant.com/Mercedes%20flex%20disc%20failure.htm

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> On May 9, 2017, at 6:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I forgot about the sliding spline. I have seen the results of two instances
> where the flex disk disintegrated, the shaft de-coupled, and beat the crap
> out of the tunnel, rear case of the tranny, and everything else in reach.
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> 
>> More to the point I've heard many stories where they come decoupled and
>> the driveshaft flops around causing damage. I know some of the stories were
>> with URO parts but I don't think all we're.
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Well all I can say is I have never seen
>> one stay coupled
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> no, the coupling is designed that way.  It's not luck.  It is another
>> way they design to protect the occupants.
>>> 
 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 May 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM
 It would be pure luck they contact and drive the car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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I forgot about the sliding spline. I have seen the results of two instances
where the flex disk disintegrated, the shaft de-coupled, and beat the crap
out of the tunnel, rear case of the tranny, and everything else in reach.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> More to the point I've heard many stories where they come decoupled and
> the driveshaft flops around causing damage. I know some of the stories were
> with URO parts but I don't think all we're.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Well all I can say is I have never seen
> one stay coupled
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > no, the coupling is designed that way.  It's not luck.  It is another
> way they design to protect the occupants.
> >
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> May 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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Dude you slide the shaft back to get the flex disk out, so it's for quite a bit 
of lateral movement 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff flops 
> up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans is fixed.  
> the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes each will move 
> a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice the driveshaft length 
> only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with splines rusted together.
> 
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>> May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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More to the point I've heard many stories where they come decoupled and the 
driveshaft flops around causing damage. I know some of the stories were with 
URO parts but I don't think all we're.

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  On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   Well all I can say is I have never 
seen one stay coupled 

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> 
> no, the coupling is designed that way.  It's not luck.  It is another way 
> they design to protect the occupants.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM
>> It would be pure luck they contact and drive the car.
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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Well all I can say is I have never seen one stay coupled 

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> 
> no, the coupling is designed that way.  It's not luck.  It is another way 
> they design to protect the occupants.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM
>> It would be pure luck they contact and drive the car.
>> 
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

except that really does not happen.  this is not a f150 where the Diff 
flops up, down and sideways and the splines have to slide.  The trans is 
fixed.  the center bearing point is fixed, and the diff is fixed.  Yes 
each will move a little due to flexing and vibration, but in practice 
the driveshaft length only varies by a mm or so.  I have seen some with 
splines rusted together.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 4:44 PM
What he said….



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no, the coupling is designed that way.  It's not luck.  It is another 
way they design to protect the occupants.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 4:39 PM
It would be pure luck they contact and drive the car.



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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Exactly.

OK Don via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 4:32 PM
The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive shaft,
can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but suspect that
there is - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could
drive the car.
All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many flex 
disks in

the distant past . . .


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[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's true too - I've seen a couple that you've had, my son even bought
one of them.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 99% of the time the shaft moves back/shortens and flops around tearing
> stuff up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 9 May 2017 16:32:37 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
> >> However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
> >> probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
> >> drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive
> >> shaft, can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but
> >> suspect that there is
> >
> > There is.
> >
> >> - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could drive
> >> the car. All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many
> >> flex disks in the distant past . . .
> >
> > If the driveshaft doesn't telescope and shorten its length, the geometry
> > would indeed allow the engine to drive the car. If it does shorten,
> > however, things will get very bad very quickly.
> >
> >
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99% of the time the shaft moves back/shortens and flops around tearing stuff up.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 9 May 2017 16:32:37 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
>> However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
>> probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
>> drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive
>> shaft, can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but
>> suspect that there is
> 
> There is.
> 
>> - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could drive
>> the car. All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many
>> flex disks in the distant past . . .
> 
> If the driveshaft doesn't telescope and shorten its length, the geometry
> would indeed allow the engine to drive the car. If it does shorten,
> however, things will get very bad very quickly.
> 
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What he said….


> On May 9, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If the driveshaft doesn't telescope and shorten its length, the geometry
> would indeed allow the engine to drive the car. If it does shorten,
> however, things will get very bad very quickly.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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On Tue, 9 May 2017 16:32:37 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
> However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
> probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
> drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive
> shaft, can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but
> suspect that there is

There is.

> - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could drive
> the car. All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many
> flex disks in the distant past . . .

If the driveshaft doesn't telescope and shorten its length, the geometry
would indeed allow the engine to drive the car. If it does shorten,
however, things will get very bad very quickly.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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There are centering bushings on both ends. These and the projecting bolts out 
of the “Y” yoke/flange on both sides would probably bang together, essentially 
“pushing” the drive train at that point.

I could see it happening, but man, would that be nasty.

-D


> On May 9, 2017, at 5:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
> However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
> probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
> drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive shaft,
> can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but suspect that
> there is - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could
> drive the car.
> All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many flex disks in
> the distant past . . .
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It beat the snot out of the knuckles, and yes makes a big racket.   But
>> when it rolled off the truck it drove into the parking place, and when I
>> worked on it, I moved it to the back.  this was with nothing left of the
>> flex disk but the steel bushing and washers.  Remember, when I got it the
>> flex disk was completely burned away.
>> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> May 9, 2017 at 12:01 PM
>>> That's not even possible. The trans bolts to the disk which is then
>>> bolted to the shaft. If the disk lets go there is nothing attaching. I
>>> don't see how it would stay together. You should not need to limp it home
>>> because of all the noise it would make for many many miles before it
>>> actually broke.
>>> 
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It would be pure luck they contact and drive the car. 

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> On May 9, 2017, at 4:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
> However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
> probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
> drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive shaft,
> can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but suspect that
> there is - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could
> drive the car.
> All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many flex disks in
> the distant past . . .
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It beat the snot out of the knuckles, and yes makes a big racket.   But
>> when it rolled off the truck it drove into the parking place, and when I
>> worked on it, I moved it to the back.  this was with nothing left of the
>> flex disk but the steel bushing and washers.  Remember, when I got it the
>> flex disk was completely burned away.
>> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> May 9, 2017 at 12:01 PM
>>> That's not even possible. The trans bolts to the disk which is then
>>> bolted to the shaft. If the disk lets go there is nothing attaching. I
>>> don't see how it would stay together. You should not need to limp it home
>>> because of all the noise it would make for many many miles before it
>>> actually broke.
>>> 
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The knuckles should be separated by the 15mm or so thick rubber disk.
However, that disk has steel bushings that the bolts go through that are
probably still bolted securely to the knuckles. They could connect and
drive the car. I remember a centering pin at the rear of the drive shaft,
can't remember if there is one at the tranny end or not, but suspect that
there is - this would also keep the shaft aligned so the knuckles could
drive the car.
All that is from my faulty memory from replacing way too many flex disks in
the distant past . . .

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It beat the snot out of the knuckles, and yes makes a big racket.   But
> when it rolled off the truck it drove into the parking place, and when I
> worked on it, I moved it to the back.  this was with nothing left of the
> flex disk but the steel bushing and washers.  Remember, when I got it the
> flex disk was completely burned away.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 12:01 PM
>> That's not even possible. The trans bolts to the disk which is then
>> bolted to the shaft. If the disk lets go there is nothing attaching. I
>> don't see how it would stay together. You should not need to limp it home
>> because of all the noise it would make for many many miles before it
>> actually broke.
>>
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It beat the snot out of the knuckles, and yes makes a big racket.   But 
when it rolled off the truck it drove into the parking place, and when I 
worked on it, I moved it to the back.  this was with nothing left of the 
flex disk but the steel bushing and washers.  Remember, when I got it 
the flex disk was completely burned away.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 12:01 PM
That's not even possible. The trans bolts to the disk which is then 
bolted to the shaft. If the disk lets go there is nothing attaching. I 
don't see how it would stay together. You should not need to limp it 
home because of all the noise it would make for many many miles before 
it actually broke.


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They start whumpwhumping when they are going bad (and the bearing too I 
guess) and if they let go all the crap in them can wind up around the 
shaft and it is a BIG f'n mess


--FT


On 5/9/17 1:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

That's not even possible. The trans bolts to the disk which is then bolted to 
the shaft. If the disk lets go there is nothing attaching. I don't see how it 
would stay together. You should not need to limp it home because of all the 
noise it would make for many many miles before it actually broke.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 9, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

The FL POS 300D 124 was driven all over with the flex disk gone.  knuckle to 
knuckle.  Defininitly stayed put in park, and went forward and back.  It is 
designed that way so  you can limp home.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 11:50 AM
No I meant the flex disk on the drive shaft. The easy way to tell you can roll 
it in park.


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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That's not even possible. The trans bolts to the disk which is then bolted to 
the shaft. If the disk lets go there is nothing attaching. I don't see how it 
would stay together. You should not need to limp it home because of all the 
noise it would make for many many miles before it actually broke.

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> On May 9, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The FL POS 300D 124 was driven all over with the flex disk gone.  knuckle to 
> knuckle.  Defininitly stayed put in park, and went forward and back.  It is 
> designed that way so  you can limp home.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 11:50 AM
>> No I meant the flex disk on the drive shaft. The easy way to tell you can 
>> roll it in park.
>> 
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Is there like a steel ring in the center? What holds it together?
-Curt

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The FL POS 300D 124 was driven all over with the flex disk gone.  
knuckle to knuckle.  Defininitly stayed put in park, and went forward 
and back.  It is designed that way so  you can limp home.

> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> May 9, 2017 at 11:50 AM
> No I meant the flex disk on the drive shaft. The easy way to tell you 
> can roll it in park.
>

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The FL POS 300D 124 was driven all over with the flex disk gone.  
knuckle to knuckle.  Defininitly stayed put in park, and went forward 
and back.  It is designed that way so  you can limp home.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 11:50 AM
No I meant the flex disk on the drive shaft. The easy way to tell you 
can roll it in park.




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No I meant the flex disk on the drive shaft. The easy way to tell you can roll 
it in park.

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> On May 9, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had the same question, then figgered out Kleb meant the steel flex plate 
> between the flywheel and the torque converter, not the flex disk, (cotton and 
> rubber) on the driveshaft.
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> May 9, 2017 at 9:35 AM
>> What does the flex disk have to do with pressure in the tranny?
>> 
>> --FT
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I had the same question, then figgered out Kleb meant the steel flex 
plate between the flywheel and the torque converter, not the flex disk, 
(cotton and rubber) on the driveshaft.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
May 9, 2017 at 9:35 AM
What does the flex disk have to do with pressure in the tranny?

--FT




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It doesn't. If it's a flex disk then the tranny is fine. If the flex disk is 
fine then the front pump is not providing pressure to the tranny.

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> On May 9, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> What does the flex disk have to do with pressure in the tranny?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/9/17 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> If it doesn't work at all it's a pressure issue. I have bought several cars 
>> that the transmission suddenly failed and discovered it was the flex disk 
>> that shat itself.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think he said it wouldn't work at all.  It just seems kinda weird it 
>>> would just fail with no warning.  I need to go over to the barn and get it 
>>> lifted up on blocks so I can take a look at it.  And get it started.
>>> 
>>> I bought another jack at HF yesterday to leave there so I can do stuff.  
>>> Got a little genny too and some LED shop lights so I can see.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/9/17 9:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Did the seller say that it worked in reverse?  I totally failed to consider
 a bad B2 piston.
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> That is what I am wondering, if that piston failed, if it might be an easy
> fix
> 
> 
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> or petty,
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Sheared flex disc means that Park would not hold the car in place.  I had a
tranny that sheared the drive ears that mate with the torque converter.  It
wouldn't move in either direction, and I'm sure was a sudden failure.

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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What does the flex disk have to do with pressure in the tranny?

--FT


On 5/9/17 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

If it doesn't work at all it's a pressure issue. I have bought several cars 
that the transmission suddenly failed and discovered it was the flex disk that 
shat itself.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 9, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I think he said it wouldn't work at all.  It just seems kinda weird it would 
just fail with no warning.  I need to go over to the barn and get it lifted up 
on blocks so I can take a look at it.  And get it started.

I bought another jack at HF yesterday to leave there so I can do stuff.  Got a 
little genny too and some LED shop lights so I can see.

--FT



On 5/9/17 9:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Did the seller say that it worked in reverse?  I totally failed to consider
a bad B2 piston.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


That is what I am wondering, if that piston failed, if it might be an easy
fix




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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If it doesn't work at all it's a pressure issue. I have bought several cars 
that the transmission suddenly failed and discovered it was the flex disk that 
shat itself. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think he said it wouldn't work at all.  It just seems kinda weird it would 
> just fail with no warning.  I need to go over to the barn and get it lifted 
> up on blocks so I can take a look at it.  And get it started.
> 
> I bought another jack at HF yesterday to leave there so I can do stuff.  Got 
> a little genny too and some LED shop lights so I can see.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/9/17 9:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did the seller say that it worked in reverse?  I totally failed to consider
>> a bad B2 piston.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That is what I am wondering, if that piston failed, if it might be an easy
>>> fix
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I think he said it wouldn't work at all.  It just seems kinda weird it 
would just fail with no warning.  I need to go over to the barn and get 
it lifted up on blocks so I can take a look at it.  And get it started.


I bought another jack at HF yesterday to leave there so I can do stuff.  
Got a little genny too and some LED shop lights so I can see.


--FT


On 5/9/17 9:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Did the seller say that it worked in reverse?  I totally failed to consider
a bad B2 piston.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


That is what I am wondering, if that piston failed, if it might be an easy
fix




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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Did the seller say that it worked in reverse?  I totally failed to consider
a bad B2 piston.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is what I am wondering, if that piston failed, if it might be an easy
> fix
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That is what I am wondering, if that piston failed, if it might be an 
easy fix


What is this manual you have?

--FT


On 5/9/17 1:59 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

The ATSG manual does not show a 722.351, it does show 722.315 it has a green 
vacuum control
B1 is 71mm part 124 270 48 05

for some reason it does not seem to cover transmissions in the w140

clay



On May 8, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I think this one is the 722.319  I see one at a knacker in Savannah for $350 so 
I need to get this thing running and check out the tranny, or at least get it 
up on blocks to take a look at the shifter links.  Maybe sometime this week,

--FT


On 5/8/17 10:08 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might add, 
is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick down 
position, according to the PO.

-D


On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

It's particular to the 300SEL

Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?

One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.

germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.

Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.

722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 


I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have isn't the 
issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.


Exclamation

The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 722.351 
has!



--FT



On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.

--FT



On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe I should buy this


89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html

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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[clay via Mercedes]

The ATSG manual does not show a 722.351, it does show 722.315 it has a green 
vacuum control
B1 is 71mm part 124 270 48 05

for some reason it does not seem to cover transmissions in the w140

clay


> On May 8, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think this one is the 722.319  I see one at a knacker in Savannah for $350 
> so I need to get this thing running and check out the tranny, or at least get 
> it up on blocks to take a look at the shifter links.  Maybe sometime this 
> week,
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 5/8/17 10:08 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might 
>> add, is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick 
>> down position, according to the PO.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's particular to the 300SEL
>>> 
>>> Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 
>>> transmissions?
>>> 
>>> One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
>>> site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.
>>> 
>>> germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.
>>> 
>>> Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
>>> following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.
>>> 
>>> 722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have 
>>> isn't the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exclamation
>>> 
>>> The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
>>> 722.351 has!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe I should buy this
>> 
>> 
>> 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
>> http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html
>> 
>> via cPro for Craigslist
>> iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
>> Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
>> 
>> 
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> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, 
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
> the enemy.”
> 
> 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[clay via Mercedes]

I have the ATSG manual on the thing.  If nobody else (dan) had insights, I will 
actually look at it and let you know

clay

> On May 8, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's particular to the 300SEL
> 
> Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?
> 
> One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
> site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.
> 
> germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.
> 
> Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
> following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.
> 
> 722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 
> 
> 
> I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have isn't 
> the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.
> 
> 
> Exclamation
> 
> The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
> 722.351 has!
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Maybe I should buy this
 
 
 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
 http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html
 
 via cPro for Craigslist
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>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, 
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
>>> the enemy.”
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's what the guy selling it said, it just quit working one day.  
Belonged to his step father or something, this kid was going to fix it 
but it has been sitting for 4-5 years, I got it for $200, it is actually 
a pretty nice car, needs a bit of cleaning. I gotta put the new fuel 
filter on it, see if the pump is pumping, and get it running to see what 
exactly is the issue.  I'm hoping it is something not too bad, seems 
like a tranny doesn't just up and quit one day with no progressive failure.


--FT


On 5/8/17 10:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So is the transmission bad in this car?

Sent from my iPhone


On May 8, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I think this one is the 722.319  I see one at a knacker in Savannah for $350 so 
I need to get this thing running and check out the tranny, or at least get it 
up on blocks to take a look at the shifter links.  Maybe sometime this week,

--FT



On 5/8/17 10:08 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might add, 
is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick down 
position, according to the PO.

-D


On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

It's particular to the 300SEL

Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?

One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.

germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.

Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.

722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 


I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have isn't the 
issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.


Exclamation

The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 722.351 
has!



--FT



On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.

--FT



On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe I should buy this


89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html

via cPro for Craigslist
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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So is the transmission bad in this car?

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> On May 8, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think this one is the 722.319  I see one at a knacker in Savannah for $350 
> so I need to get this thing running and check out the tranny, or at least get 
> it up on blocks to take a look at the shifter links.  Maybe sometime this 
> week,
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/8/17 10:08 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might 
>> add, is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick 
>> down position, according to the PO.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's particular to the 300SEL
>>> 
>>> Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 
>>> transmissions?
>>> 
>>> One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
>>> site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.
>>> 
>>> germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.
>>> 
>>> Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
>>> following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.
>>> 
>>> 722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have 
>>> isn't the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exclamation
>>> 
>>> The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
>>> 722.351 has!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.
 
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> On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe I should buy this
>> 
>> 
>> 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
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>> 
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
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> or petty,
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Many parts are nla now days, many vital parts.

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> On May 8, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might 
> add, is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick 
> down position, according to the PO.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's particular to the 300SEL
>> 
>> Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?
>> 
>> One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
>> site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.
>> 
>> germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.
>> 
>> Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
>> following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.
>> 
>> 722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 
>> 
>> 
>> I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have 
>> isn't the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.
>> 
>> 
>> Exclamation
>> 
>> The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
>> 722.351 has!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
 
 --FT
 
 
> On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Maybe I should buy this
> 
> 
> 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

One out of a 300e should work fine I would think.

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> On May 8, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's particular to the 300SEL
> 
> Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?
> 
> One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
> site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.
> 
> germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.
> 
> Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
> following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.
> 
> 722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 
> 
> 
> I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have isn't 
> the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.
> 
> 
> Exclamation
> 
> The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
> 722.351 has!
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Maybe I should buy this
 
 
 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
 http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html
 
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>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I think this one is the 722.319  I see one at a knacker in Savannah for 
$350 so I need to get this thing running and check out the tranny, or at 
least get it up on blocks to take a look at the shifter links.  Maybe 
sometime this week,


--FT


On 5/8/17 10:08 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might add, 
is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick down 
position, according to the PO.

-D


On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

It's particular to the 300SEL

Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?

One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.

germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.

Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.

722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 


I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have isn't the 
issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.


Exclamation

The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 722.351 
has!



--FT



On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.

--FT



On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe I should buy this


89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

My 300SEL had the extra plumbing with the kick down valve, which, I might add, 
is NLA. Mine was disconnected as it had apparently failed in the kick down 
position, according to the PO.

-D

> On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's particular to the 300SEL
> 
> Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 transmissions?
> 
> One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This same 
> site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.
> 
> germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.
> 
> Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in the 
> following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.
> 
> 722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 
> 
> 
> I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have isn't 
> the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.
> 
> 
> Exclamation
> 
> The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
> 722.351 has!
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Maybe I should buy this
 
 
 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
 http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html
 
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>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's particular to the 300SEL

Would anyone know the difference between the 722.319 & 722.351 
transmissions?


One WEB site I found indicates the 319 is for 1986-1989 300-SELs. This 
same site shows the 722.351 being used by 1990-1991 300SELs.


germanstar.com shows the 722.319 being used by 1986-1991 300SELs.

Arthur Dalton posted some info on 722.3xx and 722.4xx transmissions in 
the following thread. The 319 was not mentioned.


722.3/4 trans start gear [ 1st/2nd ?] 



I know how to locate my transmission # and knowing which 722.3xx I have 
isn't the issue. I'm curious about the difference between the 319 & 351.



Exclamation

The 722.319 doesn't have up-shift "delay" solenoid & plumming that the 
722.351 has!




--FT


On 5/7/17 7:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.

--FT



On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe I should buy this


89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html

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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Smoke silver.   Front was good, rear was good.  got new rear springs and 
subframe mounts.


Tinworm got it, and then it got broadsided and then the vac pump puked 
its marbles into the chaincase.  Engine needs a cam and towers, chain 
and maybe lower guides.  Upper guides were  all new.


It is still the best running OM603 i've had!  N+And not near as rusty as 
what I have now!

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
May 7, 2017 at 6:49 PM
You talking about the gold one? It's got a rebuilt front end? Maybe I 
should put that car back on the road. I can't even remember what was 
wrong with that car




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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You need a tranny? I got lots of trannies.

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> On May 7, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe I should buy this
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You talking about the gold one? It's got a rebuilt front end? Maybe I should 
put that car back on the road. I can't even remember what was wrong with that 
car

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> 
> Shoot, All he'd need to  do is drop the subframes out of my old SDL and put 
> them under it.  Done!
> 
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> May 7, 2017 at 6:02 PM
>> For parts, or are you planning to rebuild the suspension?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Buy it cheap and sell me the tranny for cheap, then part it out.

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On 5/7/17 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe I should buy this


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Shoot, All he'd need to  do is drop the subframes out of my old SDL and 
put them under it.  Done!



OK Don via Mercedes 
May 7, 2017 at 6:02 PM
For parts, or are you planning to rebuild the suspension?

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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Depends on what it would need. Right now I am focusing on a green on green 240d 
on crack r us aka bat 

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> On May 7, 2017, at 6:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> For parts, or are you planning to rebuild the suspension?
> 
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well everyone else is buying them so I figured I needed to.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 7, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I seem to recall someone saying that 300SELs were POS cars?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 7, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 Maybe I should buy this
 
 
 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
 http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html
 
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 Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

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For parts, or are you planning to rebuild the suspension?

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well everyone else is buying them so I figured I needed to.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 7, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I seem to recall someone saying that 300SELs were POS cars?
> >
> > 
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 7, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe I should buy this
> >>
> >>
> >> 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Well everyone else is buying them so I figured I needed to.

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> On May 7, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall someone saying that 300SELs were POS cars?
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe I should buy this
>> 
>> 
>> 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS)
>> http://ksu.craigslist.org/cto/6120366547.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL... (SELLING AS IS) $600

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I seem to recall someone saying that 300SELs were POS cars?



-D


 
> On May 7, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Maybe I should buy this
> 
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