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Craig via Mercedes wrote: Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to others. Those scientists who support it are on the lucrative take. Better watch it or Bobby Kennedy will sic a SWAT team on you: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388595/robert-kennedy-jr-aspiring-tyrant-charles-c-w-cooke (Or did you just forget the :-) above?) I thought the sarcasm was obvious in Dan's post. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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While we're at it, did you hear that hogwash about the earth not being flat? On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig via Mercedes wrote: Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to others. Those scientists who support it are on the lucrative take. Better watch it or Bobby Kennedy will sic a SWAT team on you: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388595/robert-kennedy- jr-aspiring-tyrant-charles-c-w-cooke (Or did you just forget the :-) above?) I thought the sarcasm was obvious in Dan's post. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81450930/ There is no man made warming associated with Pacific Coast warming trends. clay On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:43:28 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: ...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most ... of the refrigerant over the last week. Murderer!! We don't like murderers here!! Take it to banned!! ...what with climate change every other day, etc... ...and climate change at United Nations... You are killing the manatee!!! Hogwash! Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to others. Those scientists who support it are on the lucrative take. (Or did you just forget the :-) above?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:42:09 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81450930/ There is no man made warming associated with Pacific Coast warming trends. With Wildfires Increasing, How Should We Fund Efforts to Stop Them?, by Joseph O'Sullivan and in the August 10 Seattle Times link at http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2024280309_firespendingxml.html This Seattle Times article suggests that climate change is making Washington State hotter and drier, but the NOAA National Climatic Data Center Climate at a Glance site at www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/ reports the official Washington State climate data indicating that * Washington State's annual temperatures have trended downward at a rate of 0.2 degrees F per decade over the last 25 years. * Washington State's annual temperatures have trended downward at a rate of 0.4 degrees F per decade over the last 20 years. * Washington State's annual temperatures have trended downward at a rate of 1.3 degrees F per decade over the last 10 years. -and- * Washington State's meteorological winter (December - February) temperatures have trended downward at a rate of 1.4 degrees F per decade over the last 10 winters. * Washington State's meteorological summer (June - August) temperatures have trended downward at a rate of 1.9 degrees F per decade over the last 10 summers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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What does the shop say about the leak seal stuff? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out with the refrigerant. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose wouldn't suddenly start leaking - they said it was just saturated with oil and was becoming porous. I asked about the leak sealer stuff and they don't do it, and they don't recommend it, either. They said they had a guy with an E320 who needed an evaporator a couple of months ago, and he passed n the repair and had someone use leak sealer. He came back recently to have everything replaced, as it was still leaking, and they said the compressor was messed up from the leak sealer. I would seriously consider the leak sealer stuff, bt they don't sell it over the counter - you have to have a refrigerant certification to buy it. I know I can get certified easily and cheaply, but I'm not totally convinced that's the way to go - yet. I would really like to hear form anyone who has gone the leak sealer route and how it worked out for them. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out with the refrigerant. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Trust me it is not the way to go unless you are dumping the car Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose wouldn't suddenly start leaking - they said it was just saturated with oil and was becoming porous. I asked about the leak sealer stuff and they don't do it, and they don't recommend it, either. They said they had a guy with an E320 who needed an evaporator a couple of months ago, and he passed n the repair and had someone use leak sealer. He came back recently to have everything replaced, as it was still leaking, and they said the compressor was messed up from the leak sealer. I would seriously consider the leak sealer stuff, bt they don't sell it over the counter - you have to have a refrigerant certification to buy it. I know I can get certified easily and cheaply, but I'm not totally convinced that's the way to go - yet. I would really like to hear form anyone who has gone the leak sealer route and how it worked out for them. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out with the refrigerant. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Yeah, I would tend to agree, so now I need to really assess how much longer I want to keep it and whether or not it's worth repairing. Doesn't make a lot of sense to put $3400 into a $3000 car. I see that evaporators are relatively cheap, but I'm really concerned about doing the job and the possible issues that could come out of such a major undertaking. Dang it. On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Trust me it is not the way to go unless you are dumping the car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job. I'm going to be tackling that job next year or the next, just need to make the time... Replace the hose, have them evaluate the size of the leak in the evap, then make a decision with more information. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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The evap on my 97 e300 is leaking. It has been sitting for a year till I get time to pull the dash and replace it. It is a keeper so I am not going the stop leak route Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job. I'm going to be tackling that job next year or the next, just need to make the time... Replace the hose, have them evaluate the size of the leak in the evap, then make a decision with more information. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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'Understand this is a 140? Yep, real bummer. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] AC Bummer Just got the word from the shop. Low side suction hose is pretty much shot, and the evaporator is leaking. Bummer. Now the decision is to whether or not to try and use some leak sealer stuff and hope for the best or tear the thing apart and replace the evaporator. Dang it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Is it 'bout like evapectomy on a 124? 'Time to bite the bullet. You'll feel a lot better 'bout all of it after it's done properly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose wouldn't suddenly start leaking - they said it was just saturated with oil and was becoming porous. I asked about the leak sealer stuff and they don't do it, and they don't recommend it, either. They said they had a guy with an E320 who needed an evaporator a couple of months ago, and he passed n the repair and had someone use leak sealer. He came back recently to have everything replaced, as it was still leaking, and they said the compressor was messed up from the leak sealer. I would seriously consider the leak sealer stuff, bt they don't sell it over the counter - you have to have a refrigerant certification to buy it. I know I can get certified easily and cheaply, but I'm not totally convinced that's the way to go - yet. I would really like to hear form anyone who has gone the leak sealer route and how it worked out for them. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out with the refrigerant. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job. I'm going to be tackling that job next year or the next, just need to make the time... Replace the hose, have them evaluate the size of the leak in the evap, then make a decision with more information. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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'Good move. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job. I'm going to be tackling that job next year or the next, just need to make the time... Replace the hose, have them evaluate the size of the leak in the evap, then make a decision with more information. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I did about half of this job troubleshooting my 126 HVAC issues, which I eventually solved with string and shoe goo. Mu main lessons-learned are (1) devise a system to identify and store the many different kinds of clips and fasteners and (2) take a lot of cell phone or digital photos along the way. It was all obvious at the time but memory got hazy before reassembly. -Original Message- From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:13 PM Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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when I had my evaporator leak I was told the leak sealer stuff usually worked if the leak only needed refilling at the most_once _a year - any quicker and the leak was likely too large to fix with the sealer stuff. Don't be overwhelmed at the prospect of replacing the evap - it's just a lot of little jobs where keeping track of all the fasteners is the biggest worry. Most of the dash parts inside the car snap together/apart or are held together with a couple of screws.There was a writeup posted a couple of months ago when I was prepping to do mine or I can send it if needed. A couple things I might do different from that (all minor) - such as removing the hoses from the rear of the end air vents and stating that the glove box door does not need to be removed. Other than that it's a great blueprint - and those changes are only my preference. For the 1st time (and hopefully only time) ;-) I'd plan on 3-4 days taking time to be very careful with everything. Good luck - let me know if I can answer any questions. LarryT 91 300D On 9/24/2014 11:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose wouldn't suddenly start leaking - they said it was just saturated with oil and was becoming porous. I asked about the leak sealer stuff and they don't do it, and they don't recommend it, either. They said they had a guy with an E320 who needed an evaporator a couple of months ago, and he passed n the repair and had someone use leak sealer. He came back recently to have everything replaced, as it was still leaking, and they said the compressor was messed up from the leak sealer. I would seriously consider the leak sealer stuff, bt they don't sell it over the counter - you have to have a refrigerant certification to buy it. I know I can get certified easily and cheaply, but I'm not totally convinced that's the way to go - yet. I would really like to hear form anyone who has gone the leak sealer route and how it worked out for them. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out with the refrigerant. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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So you end up with $6400 in a car you could sell for $3000. How much will you drive it after you fix it? The real calculation is miles per dollar, not how many dollars in a car worth X dollars, unless you are trying to sell/trade cars rather than drive them. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, I would tend to agree, so now I need to really assess how much longer I want to keep it and whether or not it's worth repairing. Doesn't make a lot of sense to put $3400 into a $3000 car. I see that evaporators are relatively cheap, but I'm really concerned about doing the job and the possible issues that could come out of such a major undertaking. Dang it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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On 24/09/2014 4:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So you end up with $6400 in a car you could sell for $3000. How much will you drive it after you fix it? The real calculation is miles per dollar, not how many dollars in a car worth X dollars, unless you are trying to sell/trade cars rather than drive them. But you need to be concerned about having more invested in a vehicle than it is worth. Insurance may not cover your loss if it is wrecked. If you can do the work yourself then the lost labour is not as bad as the lost cash in most cases. Of course, depreciation is normally a big issue and maybe not as big an issue with an older car like this. Just too many variables to, if you like it, fix it and carry on. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point. You might want to have a micron gauge like they use in HVAC work. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Dan, Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you have a problem you'll have access to the dash. I can't believe any engineer would require you to remove a dash to work on something. My old 1980 300SD allows you to access what you want on the right by removing the glove box, the center by removing the radio, and the left by removing the speedo cluster. My indies have worked on several things inside the dash, as have I, and the dash has never been removed. Now, I realize that newer cars are more sophisticated, but really, removing the dash? Sounds like a scheme by the Germans to repay everyone for WW1 and WW2. Remember, just be careful when you cut that hole in the dash so it will look neat when you put it back together. Wilton, if this works, can we get an attaboy? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
Sawzall, angle grinder, welder. What other tools are needed? --R On 9/24/14 6:21 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: Dan, Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you have a problem you'll have access to the dash. I can't believe any engineer would require you to remove a dash to work on something. My old 1980 300SD allows you to access what you want on the right by removing the glove box, the center by removing the radio, and the left by removing the speedo cluster. My indies have worked on several things inside the dash, as have I, and the dash has never been removed. Now, I realize that newer cars are more sophisticated, but really, removing the dash? Sounds like a scheme by the Germans to repay everyone for WW1 and WW2. Remember, just be careful when you cut that hole in the dash so it will look neat when you put it back together. Wilton, if this works, can we get an attaboy? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
Yep. Double one if it, as you said, --looks neat. Wilton - Original Message - From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer Dan, Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you have a problem you'll have access to the dash. I can't believe any engineer would require you to remove a dash to work on something. My old 1980 300SD allows you to access what you want on the right by removing the glove box, the center by removing the radio, and the left by removing the speedo cluster. My indies have worked on several things inside the dash, as have I, and the dash has never been removed. Now, I realize that newer cars are more sophisticated, but really, removing the dash? Sounds like a scheme by the Germans to repay everyone for WW1 and WW2. Remember, just be careful when you cut that hole in the dash so it will look neat when you put it back together. Wilton, if this works, can we get an attaboy? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
'Reminds me: In May of '75, I had a '74 Plymouth van without A/C. 'Had local dealer order factory A/C unit for me. I cut big, rectangular hole on dash with hack saw; installed evaporator in the hole and enclosed it in factory provided black, molded plastic cover with appropriate holes for controls, radio, etc. Finished job looked very professional and appropriate, 'cause it was. Coupla months later, after I had moved to Mojave Desert near Victorville, CA, I scored a Fridgiking evap unit from knackers yard and installed in on van ceiling immediately inside rear doors and T'd hoses to it from hoses in engine compartment and ran them to the rear unit under the van and concealed in rear inside corner of the passenger/cargo compartment. The rear unit also looked very professional, also and both units BLEW ICE COLD. 'Dove the van with this set-up working very nicely for 15 years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer Sawzall, angle grinder, welder. What other tools are needed? --R On 9/24/14 6:21 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: Dan, Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you have a problem you'll have access to the dash. I can't believe any engineer would require you to remove a dash to work on something. My old 1980 300SD allows you to access what you want on the right by removing the glove box, the center by removing the radio, and the left by removing the speedo cluster. My indies have worked on several things inside the dash, as have I, and the dash has never been removed. Now, I realize that newer cars are more sophisticated, but really, removing the dash? Sounds like a scheme by the Germans to repay everyone for WW1 and WW2. Remember, just be careful when you cut that hole in the dash so it will look neat when you put it back together. Wilton, if this works, can we get an attaboy? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
Dan wrote: ...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most ... of the refrigerant over the last week. Murderer!! We don't like murderers here!! Take it to banned!! ...what with climate change every other day, etc... ...and climate change at United Nations... You are killing the manatee!!! ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:43:28 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: ...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most ... of the refrigerant over the last week. Murderer!! We don't like murderers here!! Take it to banned!! ...what with climate change every other day, etc... ...and climate change at United Nations... You are killing the manatee!!! Hogwash! Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to others. Those scientists who support it are on the lucrative take. (Or did you just forget the :-) above?) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
