Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I too have noticed over the years that 123 240D's feel MUCH slower than 
115 versions.  Talking about autos, not sticks.  Same probably applies 
though.


B Dike wrote:


Gentlemen,

An auto 240D is not necessarily slow.  Our 75 (W115)
isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough
to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic.  It has a great
crisp motor and tranny.  It seems to be geared low,
not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and
responsive.

On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was
abysmally slow when I got it last year.  It is
steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a
long way to go to catch up with the W115.  I think it
is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. 
I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a

slug, although the owner crowed about its strong
motor.  But I know of at least one 240D that isn't
slow.

Bruce


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Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread B Dike
Gentlemen,

An auto 240D is not necessarily slow.  Our 75 (W115)
isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough
to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic.  It has a great
crisp motor and tranny.  It seems to be geared low,
not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and
responsive.

On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was
abysmally slow when I got it last year.  It is
steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a
long way to go to catch up with the W115.  I think it
is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. 
I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a
slug, although the owner crowed about its strong
motor.  But I know of at least one 240D that isn't
slow.

Bruce

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM
 To: Mercedes mailing list
 Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
 
 Yes, I know, old news to most of you.  But I'd never
 driven one for any
 significant length of time until my indy lent me one
 for two days while
 working on my 124.  Now I know what drive it like
 you stole it
 REALLY means!  It maintained cruising speed just
 fine on the flat, but it's
 pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any
 speed over 50 or so and
 have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you
 have a few minutes to
 wait.  I'm impressed with the gumption of people who
 drive these on a
 regular basis, especially if it's in a place with
 high-speed cutthroat
 freeway traffic.
 
 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D
 
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Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread B Dike
TYPO - The W123 feels heavier than the W115, not vice
versa.

--- B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gentlemen,
 
 An auto 240D is not necessarily slow.  Our 75 (W115)
 isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough
 to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic.  It has a
 great
 crisp motor and tranny.  It seems to be geared low,
 not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and
 responsive.
 
 On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was
 abysmally slow when I got it last year.  It is
 steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has
 a
 long way to go to catch up with the W115.  I think
 it
 is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that
 way. 
 I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a
 slug, although the owner crowed about its strong
 motor.  But I know of at least one 240D that isn't
 slow.
 
 Bruce
 
 --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Glad you came out alive 
  
  
  Thanks,
  Tom Hargrave
  256-656-1924
  www.kegkits.com
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM
  To: Mercedes mailing list
  Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
  
  Yes, I know, old news to most of you.  But I'd
 never
  driven one for any
  significant length of time until my indy lent me
 one
  for two days while
  working on my 124.  Now I know what drive it like
  you stole it
  REALLY means!  It maintained cruising speed just
  fine on the flat, but it's
  pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at
 any
  speed over 50 or so and
  have basically nothing to speak of happen unless
 you
  have a few minutes to
  wait.  I'm impressed with the gumption of people
 who
  drive these on a
  regular basis, especially if it's in a place with
  high-speed cutthroat
  freeway traffic.
  
  Alex Chamberlain
  '87 300D
  
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Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread G.E.
the rear end has a higher gear ratio on the 115 than it does on the 123... 
thats probably a good part of it

isildur

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, B Dike wrote:

 Gentlemen,
 
 An auto 240D is not necessarily slow.  Our 75 (W115)
 isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough
 to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic.  It has a great
 crisp motor and tranny.  It seems to be geared low,
 not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and
 responsive.
 
 On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was
 abysmally slow when I got it last year.  It is
 steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a
 long way to go to catch up with the W115.  I think it
 is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. 
 I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a
 slug, although the owner crowed about its strong
 motor.  But I know of at least one 240D that isn't
 slow.
 
 Bruce
 
 --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Glad you came out alive 
  
  
  Thanks,
  Tom Hargrave
  256-656-1924
  www.kegkits.com
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM
  To: Mercedes mailing list
  Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
  
  Yes, I know, old news to most of you.  But I'd never
  driven one for any
  significant length of time until my indy lent me one
  for two days while
  working on my 124.  Now I know what drive it like
  you stole it
  REALLY means!  It maintained cruising speed just
  fine on the flat, but it's
  pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any
  speed over 50 or so and
  have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you
  have a few minutes to
  wait.  I'm impressed with the gumption of people who
  drive these on a
  regular basis, especially if it's in a place with
  high-speed cutthroat
  freeway traffic.
  
  Alex Chamberlain
  '87 300D
  
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