Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Always replace calipers in pairs. I didn't once and had a terrible pull

Has the car sat a lot? What you're looking at sounds an awful lot like my 240D 
last fall. It'd sat nearly a year and it was a BEAR to work on...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:14:31 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was:   grrr.  siezed caliper)
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Well after accepting defeat at trying to find a rear caliper locally on
a Sunday, I moved on to the fronts.  BOTH calipers had rusted, siezed
inboard pistons.  And looking at the front rotors they seem to be going
the way of the rears (look OK on the front side but badly rusted on the
inboard surface (probably because the pistons are siezed and they're not
getting any braking action on that side).

So Monday it's going to be an order for new front rotors and calipers
from Rusty.  Fronts mean I need to repack the front bearings... ugh.
I'm thinking I might as well replace that other rear caliper too, all
the calipers are the same age (I was thinking two years but it might be
three) just to avoid problems.

I've never had calipers sieze up like that before on any other car,
foreign or domestic.  Wondering why these all went bad so quickly.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D


  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-31 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:00 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Has the car sat a lot? What you're looking at sounds an awful lot
 like my 240D last fall. It'd sat nearly a year and it was a BEAR to
 work on...

Well, not that long.  There was a period earlier this year where I did
not drive it for maybe a month or so.  And it was sitting outside during
that time.

That's actually when I started noticing brake problems, initially I
thought it was just normal surface rust on the rotors but it never
cleared up.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-30 Thread Fmiser
 Allan Streib wrote:

 I've never had calipers sieze up like that before on any other
 car, foreign or domestic.  Wondering why these all went bad so
 quickly.

Dust boots installed and in good shape?

Using water instead of brake fluid?

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-30 Thread Jim Cathey

I've never had calipers sieze up like that before on any other car,
foreign or domestic.  Wondering why these all went bad so quickly.


Been driving on salted winter roads?

Since they've started salting here, which they did not do
when I first moved here, many things automotive are much
worse than they were.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco (was: grrr. siezed caliper)

2009-08-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Common problem on a previously neglected Benz -- failure to replace  
the rotors when they are too thin.  On the W126 and prior chassis,  
all the calipers have an anti-rattle spring on top, and when the  
rotors are too thin and the pads are badly worn, the backing plate  
will hit the spring.  This cocks the piston, and since the inside  
pads usually wear faster than the outers, the pistons get stuck and  
can rust in place after they overheat and fry the dust boot.


I've had this on three or four cars already -- and on my Volvo with  
the same ATE rear calipers.  They are not American rotors, which are  
way over-thick so that they last the lifetime of the car and can be  
resurfaced.  Worse, sometimes people turn the rotors on a Benz to  
save money, and that makes the problem worse.


Do, also, change fluid every two years or when you change pads --  
very easy with a MitiVac.  Old fluid collects water and promotes  
corrosion and the presence of crud, which will also lock the pistons up.


Peter

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