Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-16 Thread redghost
This end  of the Rockies Dems are in turmoil because they can not get 
solidarity, just devolving into a splintered mess.  I doubt any Clinton 
will be headed to the White House until Chelsea marries a Republican



On Tuesday, February 14, 2006, at 07:06 PM, LT Don wrote:

Mom told me several years ago that she respects what John does, but 
sure
hoped he wouldn't have to take a bullet for Clinton.    I'd 
express my
own opinion of that but don't know if USSS is monitoring this channel 
or

BUSH not.   :-)

Hopefully in a few years he can guard another Clinton. About time for 
the

PMS group to sit in the Oval Office.

On 2/15/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Stop, drop and roll.

On 2/14/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Guess he does this a lot, and the USSS always makes sure to stay on 
the
non-lethal end of the shotgun!  Must be training that TX attorneys 
don't

receive.


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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-15 Thread Anthony Galioto
I WOULD RATHER GO HUNTING WITH CHENY THAN A DRIVE WITH TED KENNEDY.
ANTHONY

On 2/14/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 George had a weapon of mass de-truck-ion!

 On 2/14/06, Kaleb C. Striplin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
  Denial is derailed again.
 
  paul wrote:
 
   Hey George - you wrap that lethal weapon of your's (w129) around any
   pickups lately?
  
   p.
  
   George Gregory wrote:
  
  
  BT  Wrong
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Rule #1 of firearms safety always be sure of your target and whats beyond it, 
when in doubt don't shoot.
   
  How do we know that the guy walked in front of Cheney? I haven't read or 
seen any real explanation of what happened. 
  CNN sez Whittington, a prominent Texas lawyer and a campaign donor to the 
Bush-Cheney campaigns in 2000 and 2004, was hit on the right side of his face, 
neck and chest when Cheney, an avid hunter, turned and fired on a covey of 
quail at a ranch near Kingsville, Texas, on Saturday.
  What I figure is Cheney spotted the quail, forgot his buddy was there and 
blasted him. Happens all the time and was covered in the video test when I took 
hunters ed back in '92. I actually got that one wrong on the test because I 
forgot which side the buddy was supposed to be on...
   
  -Curt
   
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The shootee walked into the field of fire without announcing his 
presence, a dumb maneuver and he should have known better or should 
have 
stayed on the porch.  Has nothing to do with whether the veep or some 
random Bubba shot him, the guy did something stupid, and the shooter 
had 
no reason to expect that someone was there.  In this type of hunting, 
that's how it is.  No laws broken, except perhaps another supporting 
observation for Darwinism.  It was an accident, which happen in many 
and 
varied ways to most everyone.

The permit he didn't have was recently newly instituted, TDFW says many 
hunters do not yet know about it, so if they are found without the 
permit they get a small fine and the sticker.  It's no big deal, like a 
parking ticket.  Yeah, he should have known (or somebody should have) 
but it hardly ranks up there with murder by the imperial class.

Not really a whole lot to rant about here, but bandwidth is cheap.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-15 Thread LT Don
My baby brother (me born '52, him born '61) is a Secret Service Agent in
Presidential protection.

Talked to my folks tonight -- die-hard right wingers. As a joke, said, So,
is John going to go quail hunting with Cheney?  The answer shocked me --
He already has, several times.

Guess he does this a lot, and the USSS always makes sure to stay on the
non-lethal end of the shotgun!  Must be training that TX attorneys don't
receive.

D.


Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-15 Thread LT Don
Mom told me several years ago that she respects what John does, but sure
hoped he wouldn't have to take a bullet for Clinton.    I'd express my
own opinion of that but don't know if USSS is monitoring this channel or
BUSH not.   :-)

Hopefully in a few years he can guard another Clinton. About time for the
PMS group to sit in the Oval Office.

On 2/15/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stop, drop and roll.

 On 2/14/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Guess he does this a lot, and the USSS always makes sure to stay on the
  non-lethal end of the shotgun!  Must be training that TX attorneys don't
  receive.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread Rich Thomas
The shootee walked into the field of fire without announcing his 
presence, a dumb maneuver and he should have known better or should have 
stayed on the porch.  Has nothing to do with whether the veep or some 
random Bubba shot him, the guy did something stupid, and the shooter had 
no reason to expect that someone was there.  In this type of hunting, 
that's how it is.  No laws broken, except perhaps another supporting 
observation for Darwinism.  It was an accident, which happen in many and 
varied ways to most everyone.


The permit he didn't have was recently newly instituted, TDFW says many 
hunters do not yet know about it, so if they are found without the 
permit they get a small fine and the sticker.  It's no big deal, like a 
parking ticket.  Yeah, he should have known (or somebody should have) 
but it hardly ranks up there with murder by the imperial class.


Not really a whole lot to rant about here, but bandwidth is cheap.

--R

Werner Fehlauer wrote:

Sorry, can't hold back!  Cheney/Bush/etc are NOT in a special imperial 
class - they are US citizens like the rest of us, and should be held 
accountable as we would be if we pulled a stupid stunt of shooting a gun in 
the direction of another person.  Yes, he is entitled to an added level of 
personal security because of his position, but he is NOT entitled to 
exemption from the law.
As of this morning, it was reported that he was being cited for failure to 
have the proper hunting permit.  I wonder if any of us would get off so 
lightly if we carelessly (and accidentally) fired a deadly weapon and 
injured another?
I apologize for the rant, but in the USA the law should apply to all, 
equally.


Werner

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The tragedy was that Cheney seriously wounded a fellow Republican, and in
addition is being savaged by the commiepinkolibrall press.  The poor man 
is

suffering enough already and needs our prayers...  Let's back off and give
him some privacy.
   




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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread George Gregory
BT  Wrong

TPWD incident report pins the blame squarely on Cheney.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/washington_wire.html
Monday, Feb. 13

The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department's incident report on Vice President
Dick Cheney's accidental shooting of a hunting partner Saturday pins the
blame largely on Cheney.

In evaluating contributing factors, the game warden checked off the box:
Victim covered by shooter who was swinging on game. In its summary, the
report says that 78-year-old Harry Whittington downed a bird and went to
retrieve it. While he was out of the hunting line another covey was flushed
and Cheney swung on a bird and fired striking Whittington in the face, neck
and chest at approximately 30 yards.

Lydia Saldaña, spokeswoman for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, said
Cheney would also receive a warning citation because he did not have the
proper upland game bird stamp required to hunt quail, but that he would
not be fined.

The game warden's report contradicts earlier claims from the White House and
Katharine Armstrong, the owner of the Texas ranch where the shooting
occurred. Earlier Monday, the White House cited Armstrong's view that
Whittington was at fault. She pointed out that the protocol was not
followed by Mr. Whittington when it came to notifying the others that he was
there, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Some hunting groups chastised the vice president. It's incumbent upon the
shooter to assess the situation and make sure it's a safe shot, Mark
Birkhauser, president-elect of the International Hunter Education
Association, told the Associated Press.

The Corpus Christi Caller-Times, the paper that first broke the story,
identified the third hunter in the party as Pamela Willeford, the U.S.
Ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein and a former chairman of the
Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Cheney's office would not confirm
the report that Willeford was the third hunter. --Christopher Conkey



On 2/14/06 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The shootee walked into the field of fire without announcing his
 presence, a dumb maneuver and he should have known better or should have
 stayed on the porch.  Has nothing to do with whether the veep or some
 random Bubba shot him, the guy did something stupid, and the shooter had
 no reason to expect that someone was there.  In this type of hunting,
 that's how it is.  No laws broken, except perhaps another supporting
 observation for Darwinism.  It was an accident, which happen in many and
 varied ways to most everyone.
 
 The permit he didn't have was recently newly instituted, TDFW says many
 hunters do not yet know about it, so if they are found without the
 permit they get a small fine and the sticker.  It's no big deal, like a
 parking ticket.  Yeah, he should have known (or somebody should have)
 but it hardly ranks up there with murder by the imperial class.
 
 Not really a whole lot to rant about here, but bandwidth is cheap.
 
 --R




Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread paul
Hey George - you wrap that lethal weapon of your's (w129) around any 
pickups lately?


p.

George Gregory wrote:


BT  Wrong

TPWD incident report pins the blame squarely on Cheney.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/washington_wire.html
Monday, Feb. 13

The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department's incident report on Vice President
Dick Cheney's accidental shooting of a hunting partner Saturday pins the
blame largely on Cheney.

In evaluating contributing factors, the game warden checked off the box:
Victim covered by shooter who was swinging on game. In its summary, the
report says that 78-year-old Harry Whittington downed a bird and went to
retrieve it. While he was out of the hunting line another covey was flushed
and Cheney swung on a bird and fired striking Whittington in the face, neck
and chest at approximately 30 yards.

Lydia Saldaña, spokeswoman for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, said
Cheney would also receive a warning citation because he did not have the
proper upland game bird stamp required to hunt quail, but that he would
not be fined.

The game warden's report contradicts earlier claims from the White House and
Katharine Armstrong, the owner of the Texas ranch where the shooting
occurred. Earlier Monday, the White House cited Armstrong's view that
Whittington was at fault. She pointed out that the protocol was not
followed by Mr. Whittington when it came to notifying the others that he was
there, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Some hunting groups chastised the vice president. It's incumbent upon the
shooter to assess the situation and make sure it's a safe shot, Mark
Birkhauser, president-elect of the International Hunter Education
Association, told the Associated Press.

The Corpus Christi Caller-Times, the paper that first broke the story,
identified the third hunter in the party as Pamela Willeford, the U.S.
Ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein and a former chairman of the
Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Cheney's office would not confirm
the report that Willeford was the third hunter. --Christopher Conkey



On 2/14/06 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 


The shootee walked into the field of fire without announcing his
presence, a dumb maneuver and he should have known better or should have
stayed on the porch.  Has nothing to do with whether the veep or some
random Bubba shot him, the guy did something stupid, and the shooter had
no reason to expect that someone was there.  In this type of hunting,
that's how it is.  No laws broken, except perhaps another supporting
observation for Darwinism.  It was an accident, which happen in many and
varied ways to most everyone.

The permit he didn't have was recently newly instituted, TDFW says many
hunters do not yet know about it, so if they are found without the
permit they get a small fine and the sticker.  It's no big deal, like a
parking ticket.  Yeah, he should have known (or somebody should have)
but it hardly ranks up there with murder by the imperial class.

Not really a whole lot to rant about here, but bandwidth is cheap.

--R
   






Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread George Gregory
On 2/14/06 12:13 PM, paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey George - you wrap that lethal weapon of your's (w129) around any
 pickups lately?
 
 p.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread Zeitgeist
Way back in the olden days when I learned gun safety, I was taught
that I should be accountable for every squeeze of the trigger--no
excuses.  There was poor judgement by both dolts, but the shooter
ultimately owns the liability.  I'm enjoying the schadenfreude,
primarily cuz he's a major league @sshole...oh, and my condolences to
the shootee too.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Denial is derailed again.

paul wrote:

Hey George - you wrap that lethal weapon of your's (w129) around any 
pickups lately?


p.

George Gregory wrote:



BT  Wrong



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Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good

2006-02-14 Thread LT Don
George had a weapon of mass de-truck-ion!

On 2/14/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Denial is derailed again.

 paul wrote:

  Hey George - you wrap that lethal weapon of your's (w129) around any
  pickups lately?
 
  p.
 
  George Gregory wrote:
 
 
 BT  Wrong
 

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