Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Well, Elon Musk took four tests back to back two years ago. Two positive. Two 
negative. ,藍藍

https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-calls-covid-19-212240379.html

Rick

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Makes me wonder about false positives...

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> That's one of those dumb jokes, everybody gets it, it almost never kills.
>
> -Curt
>
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> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 02:07:47 PM EST, M. Mitchell Marmel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> I'd tell you a Covid joke but there's a 97.8% chance you won't get it.  ;-)
>
> -MMM-
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> > That's happened to me twice.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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> > > this is the week I’m not traveling.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Makes me wonder about false positives...

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's one of those dumb jokes, everybody gets it, it almost never kills.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 02:07:47 PM EST, M. Mitchell Marmel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd tell you a Covid joke but there's a 97.8% chance you won't get it.  ;-)
>
> -MMM-
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That's happened to me twice.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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> > > this is the week I’m not traveling.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That's one of those dumb jokes, everybody gets it, it almost never kills.

-Curt




On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 02:07:47 PM EST, M. Mitchell Marmel via 
Mercedes  wrote: 





I'd tell you a Covid joke but there's a 97.8% chance you won't get it.  ;-)

-MMM-

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> That's happened to me twice.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I had a friend was going to do a running thing Saturday but she had done one 
2wk ago (ran 42mi after not running for 2yr, she’s an animal) and a bunch of 
her posse came down with the woohoofloo so she had to back out.  They all had 
the vaxxes so it was curious. I don’t think any of those who turned out 
positive had any significant symptoms, and she didn’t have any, so maybe the 
vax mitigates the symptoms or infection in some. 

--FT
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> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course this 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's fascinating is the national trend in daily covid deaths, which have
been flatlining at around 350 for months despite the rise in cases.

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> Oldest son got it a while back, but we’ve dodged it as far as we know.
> We’re convinced we may have had it early on before there was a vaccine.
> Boosted up to #4.
>
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>
> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's happened to me twice.
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> >> this is the week I’m not traveling.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Oldest son got it a while back, but we’ve dodged it as far as we know. We’re 
convinced we may have had it early on before there was a vaccine. Boosted up to 
#4.

-D

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> That's happened to me twice.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course 
>> this is the week I’m not traveling. 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I'd tell you a Covid joke but there's a 97.8% chance you won't get it.  ;-)

-MMM-

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> That's happened to me twice.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

That's happened to me twice.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yeah buddy, she’s a mess according to the FB. 
Many acquaintances have the covid right now. It seems to be rampant again. 

Azbob

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> On Nov 21, 2022, at 11:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> LOL, Angie and I are both vaccinated although we haven't had any boosters. 
> She doesn't like to take anything when she gets sick, some people decide to 
> punish themselves I guess.
> 
> I had a blinding headache for 2 days, ibuprofen helped but didn't take it 
> away. She had the same but didn't take much of anything so she really 
> suffered.
> 
> The worst thing for me was that I couldn't sleep. At night I'd double dose 
> NyQuil and a dose of melatonin just to get 8 hours but that wouldn't put me 
> to sleep in the day time. So for a week I was mostly just uncomfortable and 
> bored...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 01:28:39 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I have been hearing symptoms are now mild but it’s like the end of the world 
> with the spouse. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, it's uber-contagious, although symptoms ought to be mild if you do get 
>> it.
>> 
 On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:24 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> Plus the kid decided to wear a mask while traveling thru the house, that 
>>> didn’t work either. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
 
 Yes, all are vaccinated 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated and
> double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot - the
> new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern 
>> estate.
>> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the 
>> year
>> considering the state of the house.
>> 
>> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
>> well stay there...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
 On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
 
 Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse 
 not
>> to be in the house!
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course
>> this is the week I’m not traveling.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LOL, Angie and I are both vaccinated although we haven't had any boosters. She 
doesn't like to take anything when she gets sick, some people decide to punish 
themselves I guess.

I had a blinding headache for 2 days, ibuprofen helped but didn't take it away. 
She had the same but didn't take much of anything so she really suffered.

The worst thing for me was that I couldn't sleep. At night I'd double dose 
NyQuil and a dose of melatonin just to get 8 hours but that wouldn't put me to 
sleep in the day time. So for a week I was mostly just uncomfortable and 
bored...

 -Curt

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 01:28:39 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I have been hearing symptoms are now mild but it’s like the end of the world 
with the spouse. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, it's uber-contagious, although symptoms ought to be mild if you do get 
> it.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:24 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Plus the kid decided to wear a mask while traveling thru the house, that 
>> didn’t work either. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Yes, all are vaccinated 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated and
>> >> double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot - the
>> >> new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.
>> >> 
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern 
>> >>> estate.
>> >>> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the 
>> >>> year
>> >>> considering the state of the house.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
>> >>> well stay there...
>> >>> 
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>> >>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
>> >>> 
>> >>> Randy
>> >>> 
>> > On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
>> > 
>> > Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse 
>> > not
>> >>> to be in the house!
>>  
>>  -D
>>  
>> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course
>> >>> this is the week I’m not traveling.
>> > 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have been hearing symptoms are now mild but it’s like the end of the world 
with the spouse. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, it's uber-contagious, although symptoms ought to be mild if you do get 
> it.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:24 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Plus the kid decided to wear a mask while traveling thru the house, that 
>> didn’t work either. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Yes, all are vaccinated 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated and
>> >> double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot - the
>> >> new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.
>> >> 
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern 
>> >>> estate.
>> >>> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the 
>> >>> year
>> >>> considering the state of the house.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
>> >>> well stay there...
>> >>> 
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>> >>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
>> >>> 
>> >>> Randy
>> >>> 
>> > On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
>> > 
>> > Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse 
>> > not
>> >>> to be in the house!
>>  
>>  -D
>>  
>> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course
>> >>> this is the week I’m not traveling.
>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, it's uber-contagious, although symptoms ought to be mild if you do
get it.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:24 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Plus the kid decided to wear a mask while traveling thru the house, that
> didn’t work either.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, all are vaccinated
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated
> and
> >> double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot -
> the
> >> new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern
> estate.
> >>> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the
> year
> >>> considering the state of the house.
> >>>
> >>> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
> >>> well stay there...
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
> >>> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
> >>>
> >>> Randy
> >>>
> > On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
> >
> > Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse
> not
> >>> to be in the house!
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of
> course
> >>> this is the week I’m not traveling.
> >
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Plus the kid decided to wear a mask while traveling thru the house, that didn’t 
work either. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Yes, all are vaccinated 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated and
>> double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot - the
>> new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern estate.
>>> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the year
>>> considering the state of the house.
>>> 
>>> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
>>> well stay there...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
> On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
> 
> Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not
>>> to be in the house!
 
 -D
 
> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course
>>> this is the week I’m not traveling.
> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, all are vaccinated 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated and
> double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot - the
> new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern estate.
>> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the year
>> considering the state of the house.
>> 
>> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
>> well stay there...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>>> On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
>>> 
>>> Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not
>> to be in the house!
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course
>> this is the week I’m not traveling.
 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is anyone vaccinated?  I caught covid despite being double vaccinated and
double boosted, but the symptoms were mild.  Then I got the #5 shot - the
new booster that defeats the variants that may be coming down the road.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:49 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern estate.
> That was back in early April or late March so really too early in the year
> considering the state of the house.
>
> I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as
> well stay there...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?
>
> Randy
>
> On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
> >
> > Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not
> to be in the house!
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course
> this is the week I’m not traveling.
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

When Angie had it I was tempted to run north to the great northern estate. That 
was back in early April or late March so really too early in the year 
considering the state of the house.

I later mentioned it to her and she told me that if I had I'd might as well 
stay there...

-Curt




On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 12:46:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?

Randy

On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
>
> Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not to 
> be in the house!
>
> -D
>
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course this 
>> is the week I’m not traveling.
>>


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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or, a hotel in town with a restaurant and a bar. Why suffer?

Randy

On 21/11/2022 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.

Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not to be 
in the house!

-D


On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course this is 
the week I’m not traveling.




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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.
> 
> Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not to 
> be in the house!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course this 
>> is the week I’m not traveling. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Covid

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Move into the shop. All the more reason why you need heat out there.

Think of all the things you can get done now that you have an excuse not to be 
in the house!

-D

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Everyone is the house is now Covid positive, except for me.  Of course this 
> is the week I’m not traveling. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I said it’s more common, not that it can’t happen.

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> On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nuh huh.  I am an omicron/B5 victim.
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:21 PM Dimitri Seretakis  
>> wrote:
>> I believe that was more common with the pre omicron variants.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...
>>> 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
 I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the 
 neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 
 On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along 
 with slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of 
 smell/taste the common denominator among all symptoms?
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive 
 > even if you are.
 > 
 > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said 
 > to swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 
 > 3 seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. 
 > This time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 
 > 20-30 swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I 
 > just hadn't swiped enough.
 > 
 > -Curt
 > 
 > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 >  wrote: 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari 
 > had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including 
 > one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
 > 
 > Sent from my iPhone
 > 
 >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just 
 >> as she is testing negative now. 
 >> 
 >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
 >> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not 
 >> so bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel 
 >> no so bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
 >> 
 >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me 
 >> any good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew 
 >> today and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache 
 >> was caffeine withdrawal.
 >> 
 >> -Curt
 >> 
 >> 
 >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 >>  wrote: 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  
 >> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from 
 >> re-infection.
 >> 
 >> Sent from my iPhone
 >> 
 >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 >>>  wrote:
 >>> 
 >>> 
  
 > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 > came down with it...
 >>> 
  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
 >>> 
 >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
 >>> 
 >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort 
 >>> of croak...
 >>> 
 >>> -Curt
 >>> 
 >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 >>>  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
   wrote:
  
  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
  came down with it...
 >>> 
 >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
 >>> 
 >>> 
  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
 >>> 
 >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
 >>> 
 >>> Get well.
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nuh huh.  I am an omicron/B5 victim.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:21 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> I believe that was more common with the pre omicron variants.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
>> I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the
>> neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
>> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along
>> with slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of
>> smell/taste the common denominator among all symptoms?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive
>> even if you are.
>> >
>> > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said
>> to swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3
>> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This
>> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30
>> swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just
>> hadn't swiped enough.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
>> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari
>> had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including
>> one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time
>> just as she is testing negative now.
>> >>
>> >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I
>> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so
>> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so
>> bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me
>> any good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew
>> today and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was
>> caffeine withdrawal.
>> >>
>> >> -Curt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
>> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent
>> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from
>> re-infection.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> 
>> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when
>> I
>> > came down with it...
>> >>>
>>  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> >>>
>> >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort
>> of croak...
>> >>>
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>>
>> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>   wrote:
>> 
>>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>  came down with it...
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> >>>
>> >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> >>>
>> >>> Get well.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Craig
>> >>>
>> >>> ___
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I believe that was more common with the pre omicron variants.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the 
>> neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along with 
>> slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of smell/taste 
>> the common denominator among all symptoms?
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even 
>> > if you are.
>> > 
>> > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to 
>> > swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3 
>> > seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This 
>> > time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30 
>> > swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just 
>> > hadn't swiped enough.
>> > 
>> > -Curt
>> > 
>> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> >  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari 
>> > had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including 
>> > one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just 
>> >> as she is testing negative now. 
>> >> 
>> >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
>> >> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not 
>> >> so bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no 
>> >> so bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
>> >> 
>> >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any 
>> >> good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today 
>> >> and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was 
>> >> caffeine withdrawal.
>> >> 
>> >> -Curt
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> >>  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  
>> >> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from 
>> >> re-infection.
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>>  
>> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> > came down with it...
>> >>> 
>>  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>> >>> croak...
>> >>> 
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>> >>>  wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>>  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>   wrote:
>>  
>>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>  came down with it...
>> >>> 
>> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>>  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> >>> 
>> >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Get well.
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Craig
>> >>> 
>> >>> ___
>> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the
> neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along
> with slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of
> smell/taste the common denominator among all symptoms?
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive
> even if you are.
> >
> > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said
> to swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3
> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This
> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30
> swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just
> hadn't swiped enough.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari
> had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including
> one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just
> as she is testing negative now.
> >>
> >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so
> bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> >>
> >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me
> any good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew
> today and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was
> caffeine withdrawal.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent
> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from
> re-infection.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> 
> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> > came down with it...
> >>>
>  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> >>>
> >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort
> of croak...
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>   wrote:
> 
>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>  came down with it...
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>>
> >>>
>  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >>>
> >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> >>>
> >>> Get well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
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> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the neighborhood 
must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...

-Curt




On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote: 





My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along with 
slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of smell/taste the 
common denominator among all symptoms?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even if 
> you are.
> 
> One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to 
> swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3 
> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This 
> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30 swipes 
> per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just hadn't swiped 
> enough.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari had 
> obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including one pcr 
> test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as 
>> she is testing negative now. 
>> 
>> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
>> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so 
>> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad 
>> today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
>> 
>> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any 
>> good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and 
>> my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
>> withdrawal.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
>> infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came down with it...
>>> 
 I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>>> 
>>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>>> 
>>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>>> croak...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 came down with it...
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>>> 
>>> 
 It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>>> 
>>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>>> 
>>> Get well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> ___
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along with
slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of smell/taste
the common denominator among all symptoms?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even
> if you are.
>
> One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to
> swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3
> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This
> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30
> swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just
> hadn't swiped enough.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari
> had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including
> one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just
> as she is testing negative now.
> >
> > I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so
> bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> >
> > I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any
> good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today
> and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was
> caffeine withdrawal.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent
> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from
> re-infection.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>>
>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>  came down with it...
> >>
> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>
> >> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> >>
> >> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of
> croak...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> >>> came down with it...
> >>
> >> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>
> >>
> >>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >>
> >> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> >>
> >> Get well.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even if 
you are.

One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to swipe 
the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3 seconds per 
swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This time I set a 
stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30 swipes per nostril. I 
wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just hadn't swiped enough.

-Curt

On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 wrote: 





I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari had 
obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including one pcr 
test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as 
> she is testing negative now. 
> 
> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so 
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad 
> today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> 
> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any good 
> when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and my 
> headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
> withdrawal.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
> infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 came down with it...
>> 
>>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> 
>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>> croak...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
>> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> 
>>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> 
>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> 
>> Get well.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari had 
obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including one pcr 
test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as 
> she is testing negative now. 
> 
> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so 
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad 
> today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> 
> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any good 
> when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and my 
> headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
> withdrawal.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
> infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 came down with it...
>> 
>>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> 
>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>> croak...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
>> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> 
>>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> 
>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> 
>> Get well.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as she 
is testing negative now. 

I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I suspect 
what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so bad to get 
through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad today. 
Interestingly I feel better after I eat.

I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any good 
when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and my 
headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
withdrawal.

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 wrote: 


Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> 
> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
> croak...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> came down with it...
> 
> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> 
>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> 
> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> 
> Get well.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

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Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.

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> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> 
> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
> croak...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> came down with it...
> 
> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> 
>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> 
> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> 
> Get well.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

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>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> came down with it...

>I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...

Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.

I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of croak...

-Curt

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 wrote: 





On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came down with it...

I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...


> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...

That speaks volumes about your dedication.

Get well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Best guess is from a wedding last weekend but a guy at my gym has it too so I 
might have gotten it from him.
Curt

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  On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   Curt, any idea how you contacted 
covid?  IIRC you are vaccinated but not
boosted, correct?

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 9:49 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> take care Curt.
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came
> > down with it...
> >
> > I've been working 8pm to 1am teaching Australian students, Wednesday
> night
> > I had a little tickle in my throat during class. Thursday morning I felt
> > really run down which I attributed to not sleeping enough. This morning I
> > felt like I'd been hit by a truck. Searing headache, sore throat, no
> > energy, kinda dizzy.
> >
> > Feeling a bit better now, my sinuses are draining some which helps the
> > headache but is giving me a cough. I figure I'll be over it in a few days
> > but I did cancel class for next week. I'd probably be okay but staying up
> > late isn't going to help me get better.
> >
> > It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came down with it...

I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...


> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...

That speaks volumes about your dedication.

Get well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] COVID

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Curt, any idea how you contacted covid?  IIRC you are vaccinated but not
boosted, correct?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> take care Curt.
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came
> > down with it...
> >
> > I've been working 8pm to 1am teaching Australian students, Wednesday
> night
> > I had a little tickle in my throat during class. Thursday morning I felt
> > really run down which I attributed to not sleeping enough. This morning I
> > felt like I'd been hit by a truck. Searing headache, sore throat, no
> > energy, kinda dizzy.
> >
> > Feeling a bit better now, my sinuses are draining some which helps the
> > headache but is giving me a cough. I figure I'll be over it in a few days
> > but I did cancel class for next week. I'd probably be okay but staying up
> > late isn't going to help me get better.
> >
> > It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

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take care Curt.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I came
> down with it...
>
> I've been working 8pm to 1am teaching Australian students, Wednesday night
> I had a little tickle in my throat during class. Thursday morning I felt
> really run down which I attributed to not sleeping enough. This morning I
> felt like I'd been hit by a truck. Searing headache, sore throat, no
> energy, kinda dizzy.
>
> Feeling a bit better now, my sinuses are draining some which helps the
> headache but is giving me a cough. I figure I'll be over it in a few days
> but I did cancel class for next week. I'd probably be okay but staying up
> late isn't going to help me get better.
>
> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 Vaccines and study sizes

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>People who know 1000x more than me on this subject say that mRNA is totally 
>safe and highly effective.


Okay.

https://youtu.be/ZJZxiNxYLpc

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 Vaccines and study sizes

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-03-13 10:03, Tony Wirtel via Mercedes wrote:


I'll echo what was said before- if you can get a shot, take what you 
can

get.  The differences in efficacy are minor compared to the risk of
covid...esp w/the new variants swimming around.


I don't have a good personal track record with live viral culture vax, 
so JJ is a no-go for me.
People who know 1000x more than me on this subject say that mRNA is 
totally safe and highly effective.


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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 Vaccines and study sizes

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Another thing to consider is that ALL of them protect against severe disease.  
Feeling crappy for a few days vs intensive care and lung damage, etc, I'll take 
the feeling crappy.

Get whatever you can.  I suspect we will be getting boosters for this for a 
while, just like flu shots.
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 Vaccines and study sizes

[Tony Wirtel via Mercedes]

Long time without a post!

Given info from US FDA on size of phase 3 clinical trials the Pfizer study
is a close second to J  Phase 3 is the last step to collect data before
one could apply for clearance to use in the US:

Pfizer: 43.651 (Combined phase 2/3)
https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download (Table

Moderna: 30,418
https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download  (Table 1)

J/Janssen: 44.325
https://www.fda.gov/media/146217/download   (Table 5)

While the Pfizer study was a combined phase 2/3 study (w/FDA blessing),
phase 2 studies are relatively small- for example, ~2k people in the
Moderna Phase 2.   If you have good data and are addressing an urgent need
you can ask FDA to combine a phase 2 and phase 3.  If they like your data,
they're likely to give you the green light.

While not common, this approach has been used with previous disease states
and drugs.

I'll echo what was said before- if you can get a shot, take what you can
get.  The differences in efficacy are minor compared to the risk of
covid...esp w/the new variants swimming around.

Tony Wirtel
...still Benzless


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> I think that Pfizer one was tested on a very small sample which determined
> its effectiveness and the moderna was more fully tested, or so I was told.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 12, 2021, at 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?I?ll take what they?re giving, as long as it works. A couple of
> percentage points either way isn?t going to make a difference.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 12, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Either one is fine
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:

> My Sonoma has a short (6 ft) bed but there are "notches" in the bed walls
> for four 2x6 boards (the right length) that support 4x8 sheets above the
> wheel wells.  

My Frontier has those notches, and I never realized that was their
purpose. I always thought it was so you could insert boards to keep
smaller loads from sliding around, sort of like load locks in a box
truck.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> My Sonoma has a short (6 ft) bed but there are "notches" in the bed walls
> for four 2x6 boards (the right length) that support 4x8 sheets above the
> wheel wells.  

That's because it's narrow, not because it's short.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My Sonoma has a short (6 ft) bed but there are "notches" in the bed walls
for four 2x6 boards (the right length) that support 4x8 sheets above the
wheel wells.  

-Original Message-
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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Jim Cathey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

> It's just challenged to haul a cord of wood, or a stack of 4x8 plywood [in
a short bed].

With the tailgate down sheet goods are just fine in a short bed.  My first
truck was a club cab with a short bed.  When replaced with a standard
pick-em-up, I'd found that I missed the extra interior space far more than
I'd ever needed more bed room.  When I replaced _that_ with an extended-cab
long bed truck I found that the thing was considerably less maneuverable due
to the extra overall length, felt like driving a bus...

TANSTAAFL.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

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> It's just challenged to haul a cord of wood, or a stack of 4x8 plywood [in a 
> short bed].

With the tailgate down sheet goods are just fine in a short bed.  My first 
truck was a
club cab with a short bed.  When replaced with a standard pick-em-up, I'd found 
that
I missed the extra interior space far more than I'd ever needed more bed room.  
When
I replaced _that_ with an extended-cab long bed truck I found that the thing 
was considerably
less maneuverable due to the extra overall length, felt like driving a bus...

TANSTAAFL.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I believe that version has a 6 ft long bed, instead of a full size truck 8
ft bed. I call it the "city boys truck".
Interior of cab has every known luxury, so that part is nicely equipped.
It's just challenged to haul a cord of wood, or a stack of 4x8 plywood.


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 6:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  That could be a pretty good deal.I hate the chrome "lady bits massager"
> for a shifter handle.
> Is it just me or does the bed look really short? I can't tell if its the
> cover but the proportions look weird.
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 7:07:40 PM EST, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Here's one that's older
>
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2005-ford-150-lariat-71k-miles/7275090467.html
>
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:
>
> >  Rick,
> > Find me a 5 year old 4wd extended cab pickup truck with no rust and
> under 80,000 miles for under $25,000 and I'll give you a $500 finders fee.
> > Around here if it runs and drives the price is double what it was last
> year and there aren't very many choices.
> > In 2014 when we were truck shopping I could get a brand new Ford F150
> STX 4wd extended cab v8 for $28,000. Today that's the price for a 4 year
> old one, if you can find one.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 That could be a pretty good deal.I hate the chrome "lady bits massager" for a 
shifter handle.
Is it just me or does the bed look really short? I can't tell if its the cover 
but the proportions look weird.
-Curt

On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 7:07:40 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Here's one that's older

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2005-ford-150-lariat-71k-miles/7275090467.html


Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  Rick,
> Find me a 5 year old 4wd extended cab pickup truck with no rust and under 
> 80,000 miles for under $25,000 and I'll give you a $500 finders fee.
> Around here if it runs and drives the price is double what it was last year 
> and there aren't very many choices.
> In 2014 when we were truck shopping I could get a brand new Ford F150 STX 4wd 
> extended cab v8 for $28,000. Today that's the price for a 4 year old one, if 
> you can find one.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Covid and price of cars

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Here's one that's older

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2005-ford-150-lariat-71k-miles/7275090467.html


Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  Rick,
> Find me a 5 year old 4wd extended cab pickup truck with no rust and under 
> 80,000 miles for under $25,000 and I'll give you a $500 finders fee.
> Around here if it runs and drives the price is double what it was last year 
> and there aren't very many choices.
> In 2014 when we were truck shopping I could get a brand new Ford F150 STX 4wd 
> extended cab v8 for $28,000. Today that's the price for a 4 year old one, if 
> you can find one.
>

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Rick,
Find me a 5 year old 4wd extended cab pickup truck with no rust and under 
80,000 miles for under $25,000 and I'll give you a $500 finders fee.
Around here if it runs and drives the price is double what it was last year and 
there aren't very many choices.
In 2014 when we were truck shopping I could get a brand new Ford F150 STX 4wd 
extended cab v8 for $28,000. Today that's the price for a 4 year old one, if 
you can find one.

-Curt

On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 7:02:26 PM EST, Rick Hawkins Java 
Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Folks

Whether you believe it  or not, the price of ICE powered cars is really going 
to keep falling no one is driving much, they don’t have jobs to go to and I 
think electric cars will be super mainstream so quickly we will be amazed  
look at the price of fax machines!

Our daughter who lives in the Bay Area has, count them, TWO Teslas a model 
S and a 3. The S is leased and about to go back, but daughter owns the 3 so it 
stays. Their third car is a Nice 2001 Lexus/ Rav 4 SUV or whatever It is 
called. Daughter has driven the model 3 about 60k miles and has replaced some 
tires and Tesla just warrantied the 12 volt reg car battery or deep cycle that 
powers accessories or something  

I think she is the norm, maybe a bit of early adopter.

In the last three years or so I have bought a Kia 2008 mini van for $200 (129k 
miles) ... I fixed a few things and have driven it for 3 years About 20k miles 
at the cost of fuel and an idler pulley, a few coil packs and a $50 used 
alternator. Perfect car 

I bought a 2008 Kia accent with 200k like new, clean stick for $350... it took 
8 months to sell for $2500

And I have the 2003 sprinter with lift gate that only cost $2800 with free 
Pennsylvania

I would say I have never seen cars cheaper in terms of real cost, allowing for 
inflation etc

I think these ICE Mercedes cars will be $500 before you know it because no one 
will want them
 
As for Covid, at age 66 Georgia offered me a vaccine which I took, a couple of 
weeks ago (Pfizer) and an appointment next week for the second dose.  I felt 
crappy for at least a week after it ... mostly just tired.

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I appreciate your mentioning that. Otherwise I wouldn't have checked further 
and found that the whole thing was suspect. I was depeding too much on their 
list of authors and the false fact that the source was Swiss.
Gerry

On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 16:25:24 -0800
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> > All I really meant was that it's not necessarily "the swiss'.
> 
> All that could mean is a sandwich preference.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

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> All I really meant was that it's not necessarily "the swiss'.

All that could mean is a sandwich preference.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

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Which is all I meant. I didn't follow the links to the supporting evidence, if 
those are from reasonably good sources it's probably good stuff.The article 
referenced seems okay, it doesn't really draw any conclusions or push any 
propaganda. All I really meant was that it's not necessarily "the swiss'.
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   On 2020-11-01 10:35, archer75--- via 
Mercedes wrote:
> Curt is right. This website is suspect. Here is what I wrote Curt:


That's what I said. The website is 'suspect' because Wiki casts vague 
aspersions on it.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

[Clay via Mercedes]

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/exorcisms-performed-in-well-attended-outdoor-ceremonies-following-u-s-protests/

The Swiss know their science.  The Left Coast is getting ready with Santeria 
and chickens

clay 

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:23 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is a well documented Swiss article about Covid-19 which lists the drugs 
> that are recommended for prevention and treatment.
> 
> https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/


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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

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On 2020-11-01 10:35, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Curt is right. This website is suspect. Here is what I wrote Curt:



That's what I said. The website is 'suspect' because Wiki casts vague 
aspersions on it.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

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Curt is right. This website is suspect. Here is what I wrote Curt:

You're right. This website is suspect. I tried to check it out last night 
without success, but I had more success this morning. My bad.
Gerry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research

On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 08:28:42 -0600
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:

> On 2020-11-01 08:22, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Just an FYI there is no guarantee of any Swiss in "Swiss Policy
> > Research" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research
> 
> So, it's accused, but not with specific and credible accusations, of not 
> 'following the party line'?
> 
> And I just realized this is on the MBZ list, not the controversy list.
> So, I'm done.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

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On 2020-11-01 08:22, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Just an FYI there is no guarantee of any Swiss in "Swiss Policy
Research" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research


So, it's accused, but not with specific and credible accusations, of not 
'following the party line'?


And I just realized this is on the MBZ list, not the controversy list.
So, I'm done.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Just an FYI there is no guarantee of any Swiss in "Swiss Policy Research" 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research


Curt

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  On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 5:24 AM, archer75--- via 
Mercedes wrote:   
This is a well documented Swiss article about Covid-19 which lists the drugs 
that are recommended for prevention and treatment.

https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/
 


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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

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On 2020-11-01 04:23, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

This is a well documented Swiss article about Covid-19 which lists the
drugs that are recommended for prevention and treatment.

https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/



Thanks, Gerry.
It's good to see the latest recommendations, I haven't been keeping up 
with this stuff like I have with the election news.


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Re: [MBZ] Covid infected cat

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 I saw a car yesterday that somebody had a mask strapped on to. I wonder what 
it does to the cooling system...
-Curt

On Monday, July 27, 2020, 7:57:07 PM EDT, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So how come cats and dogs aren't wearing masks?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 27, 2020 1:02:41 PM archer75--- via Mercedes :

> A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus that is 
> causing the current pandemic..
> 
> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53552557
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Re: [MBZ] Covid infected cat

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So how come cats and dogs aren't wearing masks?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 27, 2020 1:02:41 PM archer75--- via Mercedes :

> A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus that is 
> causing the current pandemic..
> 
> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53552557
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Re: [MBZ] Covid infected cat

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 The one I was thinking of was in a zoo, I thought it was in the US.Bronx zoo, 
in April: 
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/04/tiger-coronavirus-covid19-positive-test-bronx-zoo/
-Curt

On Monday, July 27, 2020, 4:26:30 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, July 27, 2020 4:14 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Early on there was a tiger that came up having it. What possessed them to
> test a tiger back when tests were scarce I do not know... -Curt

Allegedly the leader of a presumably backwards African country gave WHO a
bunch of animal samples and they were all 'positive'. Supposedly he kicked
WHO out of the country when that happened. Myth or reality? I don't know.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid infected cat

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On Mon, July 27, 2020 4:14 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Early on there was a tiger that came up having it. What possessed them to
> test a tiger back when tests were scarce I do not know... -Curt

Allegedly the leader of a presumably backwards African country gave WHO a
bunch of animal samples and they were all 'positive'. Supposedly he kicked
WHO out of the country when that happened. Myth or reality? I don't know.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid infected cat

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I think both cats and dogs are known to transmit it. Cats for sure

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> I think there was also another cat early on.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
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> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:15 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>
> >  Early on there was a tiger that came up having it. What possessed them
> to
> > test a tiger back when tests were scarce I do not know...
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, July 27, 2020, 1:02:42 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus
> that
> > is causing the current pandemic..
> >
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53552557
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I think there was also another cat early on.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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>  Early on there was a tiger that came up having it. What possessed them to
> test a tiger back when tests were scarce I do not know...
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020, 1:02:42 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> is causing the current pandemic..
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53552557
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 Early on there was a tiger that came up having it. What possessed them to test 
a tiger back when tests were scarce I do not know...
-Curt

On Monday, July 27, 2020, 1:02:42 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
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A pet cat has tested positive in the UK for the strain of coronavirus that is 
causing the current pandemic..

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53552557

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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A 60-year-old man who died from a gun shot wound
to the head.

A 90-year-old man who fell and died from complications of a hip fracture.

A 77-year-old woman who died of Parkinson's disease.

These are some of the deaths in Palm Beach County recently, and
incorrectly, attributed to COVID-19 in medical examiner records.

The CBS12 News I-Team uncovered several examples in Medical Examiner
reports of people counted as a COVID death who did not die of COVID.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/i-team-deaths-incorrectly-attributed-to-covid-19-in-palm-beach-county

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Re: [MBZ] Covid Knowledge Advances

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On Fri, July 24, 2020 6:05 pm, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>

> Covid Hidden Immunity
>
>
> https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-protec
> tion-from-covid-19?xtor=ES-213-[BBC%20Features%20Newsletter]-2020July24-[
>

T-cells, huh?
Thanks for that, Gerry.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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He counts for zero unless he tests positive, in which case, 1.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Is 'recovered' the same as 'tested negative'?
>
> If we keep testing until you test negative, and you test positive 3x, are
> you one case or three? (somebody I know needs an outpatient procedure but
> they won't touch him until he tests negative twice, and I'm wondering how
> many COVID cases he counts for, he finally got a negative last week and is
> waiting for the results of the next test)
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Cuomo took a trip to FL to donate no longer needed ventilators and PPE from
NYC.  New Yorkers went through hell but somehow smashed the curve without
experiencing a resurgence (yet).

Cuomo is probably scared to death of NY vacationers bringing back the virus
from their FL vacations.

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> On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:10 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Further, the number of hospital beds is fungible.  With time, capacity
> > can be added, so that number is important but not necessarily THE number
> > to watch.
>
> What we can do:
> Let's set up another COVID ward.
>
> What we might not be able to do:
> Get 20 ventilators for the new COVID ward.
>
> OTOH, there was a lot of overbuying/overmanufacturing of vents in
> March/April/May when things turned out less bad than was feared.
> Are there still brand new unused vents sitting in warehouses in the USA?
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On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:10 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Further, the number of hospital beds is fungible.  With time, capacity
> can be added, so that number is important but not necessarily THE number
> to watch.

What we can do:
Let's set up another COVID ward.

What we might not be able to do:
Get 20 ventilators for the new COVID ward.

OTOH, there was a lot of overbuying/overmanufacturing of vents in
March/April/May when things turned out less bad than was feared.
Are there still brand new unused vents sitting in warehouses in the USA?

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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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Further, the number of hospital beds is fungible.  With time, capacity can be 
added, so that number is important but not necessarily THE number to watch.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 21, 2020 10:59:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> There will be those who don’t believe or want to accept the 
> numbers/statistics/data no matter who provides it, which is a problem in and 
> of itself.
> 
> How can you quantify “recovered”? Off a ventilator? Discharged from the 
> hospital? What about those with milder cases or symptoms? How do you 
> determine they are recovered? Add to this the related issues some of these 
> patients will have for months if not years that will affect their health. If 
> I get off a ventilator and get discharged but suffer from some sort of 
> related breathing issues from the disease, have I recovered?
> 
> My point is not to challenge, but to show that much of this isn’t 
> quantifiable in a clear and direct manner, so it’s nearly impossible to do 
> so. This is unknown territory for everyone.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on who you ask I'm sure. I'd like to find a better listing for 
>> open hospital capacity, thats really the measure for how well we've 
>> flattened the curve and how much we can loosen restrictions.
>> I see references to it now and then but its dang hard to find a reliable 
>> number. Well its hard to find really trustworthy numbers for anything I 
>> suppose...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:34:51 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
>> number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
>> cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
>>> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
>>> music will be playing?
>>> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good point.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is 'recovered' the same as 'tested negative'?
> 
> If we keep testing until you test negative, and you test positive 3x, are
> you one case or three? (somebody I know needs an outpatient procedure but
> they won't touch him until he tests negative twice, and I'm wondering how
> many COVID cases he counts for, he finally got a negative last week and is
> waiting for the results of the next test)
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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Is 'recovered' the same as 'tested negative'?

If we keep testing until you test negative, and you test positive 3x, are
you one case or three? (somebody I know needs an outpatient procedure but
they won't touch him until he tests negative twice, and I'm wondering how
many COVID cases he counts for, he finally got a negative last week and is
waiting for the results of the next test)

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There will be those who don’t believe or want to accept the 
numbers/statistics/data no matter who provides it, which is a problem in and of 
itself.

How can you quantify “recovered”? Off a ventilator? Discharged from the 
hospital? What about those with milder cases or symptoms? How do you determine 
they are recovered? Add to this the related issues some of these patients will 
have for months if not years that will affect their health. If I get off a 
ventilator and get discharged but suffer from some sort of related breathing 
issues from the disease, have I recovered?

My point is not to challenge, but to show that much of this isn’t quantifiable 
in a clear and direct manner, so it’s nearly impossible to do so. This is 
unknown territory for everyone.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It depends on who you ask I'm sure. I'd like to find a better listing for 
> open hospital capacity, thats really the measure for how well we've flattened 
> the curve and how much we can loosen restrictions.
> I see references to it now and then but its dang hard to find a reliable 
> number. Well its hard to find really trustworthy numbers for anything I 
> suppose...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:34:51 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
> number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
> cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
>> music will be playing?
>> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It depends on who you ask I'm sure. I'd like to find a better listing for open 
hospital capacity, thats really the measure for how well we've flattened the 
curve and how much we can loosen restrictions.
I see references to it now and then but its dang hard to find a reliable 
number. Well its hard to find really trustworthy numbers for anything I 
suppose...

-Curt

On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:34:51 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
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> 
> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
> music will be playing?
> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

No Fred speaks in parables.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 8:47 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Fred is stirring the pot!
>
> Come on over to okietalk, we'd love to hear what you really think.
>
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>
> Jul 20, 2020 1:39:18 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes  >:
>
> > The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> > For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And
> what
> > music will be playing?
> > Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> >
> > --
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[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Max.
No, that was Greasy Joan and she had one eye on the pot and the other up
the chimney, all whilst keeling the pot.
YMMV.
Fred.
It's the heat I tell ye, the heat!

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>
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> Jul 20, 2020 1:39:18 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes  >:
>
> > The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> > For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And
> what
> > music will be playing?
> > Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Fred is stirring the pot!

Come on over to okietalk, we'd love to hear what you really think.

Max Dillon
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Jul 20, 2020 1:39:18 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes :

> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
> music will be playing?
> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Kaleb we test everyone who comes into the hospital, so they dont give covid
to hospital staff or other patients. The trauma patients often go to the OR
and get intubated for instance, which generates a lot of aerosols that are
infectious. Its a big risk to hospital employees.

Sometimes people have more than one thing. In the overall scheme of things,
however, the cases you cite are rare. We usually know what kills people.
Covid pneumonia is very different from other pneumonias and it is seen on
CT.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 12:41 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You would when all forms of death are counted just because they tested
> positive for covid. Why would they even test a dead person for it anyway?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 20, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You would need hundreds of motorcycle fatalities of riders infected with
> > COVID 19 in order to have any significant impact on an accurate COV 19
> body
> > count.
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can we believe the numbers?  For example the 300 Florida testing
> stations
> >> that reported 100% positive COVID results (later found to be less than
> >> 10%)?
> >> Or the young man who died in a motorcycle accident (and apparently not
> >> sick)
> >> who was counted as a COVID death because his corpse tested positive?
> Both
> >> of these were uncovered by a local TV station but how many so-called
> >> journalists are actually curious enough to validate what they pass on?
> And
> >> even if individual journalists were curious would their editors bury any
> >> story that doesn't support the "party line"?  Back in the day I believed
> >> what I read/saw in the major media because management and editors were
> >> committed to the truth.  That clearly is no longer the case.  Sad.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Frederick Moir via Mercedes
> >>
> >> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> >> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And
> what
> >> music will be playing?
> >> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> >>
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You would when all forms of death are counted just because they tested positive 
for covid. Why would they even test a dead person for it anyway?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You would need hundreds of motorcycle fatalities of riders infected with
> COVID 19 in order to have any significant impact on an accurate COV 19 body
> count.
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can we believe the numbers?  For example the 300 Florida testing stations
>> that reported 100% positive COVID results (later found to be less than
>> 10%)?
>> Or the young man who died in a motorcycle accident (and apparently not
>> sick)
>> who was counted as a COVID death because his corpse tested positive?  Both
>> of these were uncovered by a local TV station but how many so-called
>> journalists are actually curious enough to validate what they pass on?  And
>> even if individual journalists were curious would their editors bury any
>> story that doesn't support the "party line"?  Back in the day I believed
>> what I read/saw in the major media because management and editors were
>> committed to the truth.  That clearly is no longer the case.  Sad.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Frederick Moir via Mercedes
>> 
>> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
>> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
>> music will be playing?
>> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
>> 
>> --
>> Fred Moir
>> Lynn MA
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That’s the problem, I saw something about the CDC guidelines say to report it 
as covid death if they test positive no matter what the actual cause is ( car 
wreck, gun shot, stabbing, cancer). 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can we believe the numbers?  For example the 300 Florida testing stations
> that reported 100% positive COVID results (later found to be less than 10%)?
> Or the young man who died in a motorcycle accident (and apparently not sick)
> who was counted as a COVID death because his corpse tested positive?  Both
> of these were uncovered by a local TV station but how many so-called
> journalists are actually curious enough to validate what they pass on?  And
> even if individual journalists were curious would their editors bury any
> story that doesn't support the "party line"?  Back in the day I believed
> what I read/saw in the major media because management and editors were
> committed to the truth.  That clearly is no longer the case.  Sad.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Frederick Moir via Mercedes
> 
> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
> music will be playing?
> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> 
> --
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> Lynn MA
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
> music will be playing?
> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You would need hundreds of motorcycle fatalities of riders infected with
COVID 19 in order to have any significant impact on an accurate COV 19 body
count.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Can we believe the numbers?  For example the 300 Florida testing stations
> that reported 100% positive COVID results (later found to be less than
> 10%)?
> Or the young man who died in a motorcycle accident (and apparently not
> sick)
> who was counted as a COVID death because his corpse tested positive?  Both
> of these were uncovered by a local TV station but how many so-called
> journalists are actually curious enough to validate what they pass on?  And
> even if individual journalists were curious would their editors bury any
> story that doesn't support the "party line"?  Back in the day I believed
> what I read/saw in the major media because management and editors were
> committed to the truth.  That clearly is no longer the case.  Sad.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Frederick Moir via Mercedes
>
> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
> music will be playing?
> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
>
> --
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[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Can we believe the numbers?  For example the 300 Florida testing stations
that reported 100% positive COVID results (later found to be less than 10%)?
Or the young man who died in a motorcycle accident (and apparently not sick)
who was counted as a COVID death because his corpse tested positive?  Both
of these were uncovered by a local TV station but how many so-called
journalists are actually curious enough to validate what they pass on?  And
even if individual journalists were curious would their editors bury any
story that doesn't support the "party line"?  Back in the day I believed
what I read/saw in the major media because management and editors were
committed to the truth.  That clearly is no longer the case.  Sad.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Frederick Moir via Mercedes

The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
music will be playing?
Apologies to anyone that I may offend.

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Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Covid. was: THe Bug

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Very few transmission events from infected people after two weeks following
symptom onset. Very ill people may be able to shed live virus longer.

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:45 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a very good writeup IMO.
>
> Do you or anyone else know how long after symptoms of covid subside that
> patients are no longer infectious?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Actually, isolation is the only way to stop the spread.  This is an
> unusual virus in that it's possible to actually stop the spread, difficulty
> is that it can have a long incubation period with virus shedding going on
> for some days before symptoms get bad enough to send someone in for testing.
> >
> > This isn't the first time, either -- SARS and MERS are similar viruses,
> just much less transmissible.  Another long forgotten incident involved fur
> animals in Manchuria in the early part of the 1900s, when no vaccine was
> possible.  That outbreak was traced back to harvesitng sick animals for
> fur, and was stopped by guess what, cloth masks and social distancing.
> >
> > The key to stopping the spread is testing and contact tracing -- if
> people can be tested easily, it's possible to break the chain of
> transmission, and when no more people are getting infected, eventually the
> virus will no long reproduce.
> >
> > My local county has always had a pretty strong public health department,
> and has been on top of tracing and testing since the start -- luckily, we
> are more or less remote here, and full state wide social restrictions were
> in place before the first cases showed up.  The result is that we have just
> over 200 cases for 200,000 people and two deaths.  Case number per day is
> down to five or six, and I believe nearly all of them were people in
> observation for exposure.
> >
> > Couple people refused to self isolate and were promptly served with stay
> at home orders by a local judge -- we still have quarantine laws on the
> books from when there were no antibiotics or vaccines for common illnesses
> like scarlet fever a measles.
> >
> > while it may seem very harsh and draconian, the lockdown in China
> worked.  You have to understand the filtering of news there, but I suspect
> the reported case numbers are reasonably accurate -- if the Parry lies too
> much, they will be overthrown, it's how things work in China.  South Korea
> and Tiawan, both of whom had serious issues with SARS in the 90s, have very
> low cases as well.
> >
> > One point more -- nightclubs opened in Seol, and at least 126 cases have
> come from a single club over a couple nights.  This is what I'm worried
> about with the lunatics that squeal about how their "rights" are being
> infringed by public health measures.  Only takes one jerk ignoring the
> health rules to infect hundreds of people in close quarters.  Ditto for the
> boob that insisted he run his barber shop in spite of the shutdown -- he's
> now positive and who knows how many of his clients are too as a result.
> >
> > I definitely error on the side of caution, it's why I've driven a Benz
> for decades.  Hardly an imposition to wear a mask compared to getting
> really, really sick or killing my elderly mother.  We are not all isolated
> sovereign states with no responsibilities, we are a community and need to
> remember everyone is entitled to what we are.  Or as my Grandmother used to
> say "You have your rights, true -- until they run into mine, and you are
> standing on my toes"
> >
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> want are notably absent when it's time to take responsibility for the
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Re: [MBZ] Covid. was: THe Bug

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The repeat tests being positive do not mean the sailors were necessarily
reinfected, or infectious. It is a PCR. Cases like this have been described
in China also, but no documented transmission has occurred from these
individuals to others and they may simply still be shedding viral RNA
without being contagious.

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 7:01 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Ask the Navy.  Seems sailors on the Roosevelt (docked in Guam) are getting
> cleared for duty after multiple tests show clean.  There have been around a
> half dozen or more who have been re-infected.
>
> Same sort of situations reported in UK, Canada, as well as other nations.
>  This may not be something that ever “goes away”.
>
>
> clay
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 2020, at 6:44 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is a very good writeup IMO.
> >
> > Do you or anyone else know how long after symptoms of covid subside that
> patients are no longer infectious?
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
> > 
> > Peter Frederick via Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >> Actually, isolation is the only way to stop the spread.  This is an
> unusual virus in that it's possible to actually stop the spread, difficulty
> is that it can have a long incubation period with virus shedding going on
> for some days before symptoms get bad enough to send someone in for testing.
> >>
> >> This isn't the first time, either -- SARS and MERS are similar viruses,
> just much less transmissible.  Another long forgotten incident involved fur
> animals in Manchuria in the early part of the 1900s, when no vaccine was
> possible.  That outbreak was traced back to harvesitng sick animals for
> fur, and was stopped by guess what, cloth masks and social distancing.
> >>
> >> The key to stopping the spread is testing and contact tracing -- if
> people can be tested easily, it's possible to break the chain of
> transmission, and when no more people are getting infected, eventually the
> virus will no long reproduce.
> >>
> >> My local county has always had a pretty strong public health
> department, and has been on top of tracing and testing since the start --
> luckily, we are more or less remote here, and full state wide social
> restrictions were in place before the first cases showed up.  The result is
> that we have just over 200 cases for 200,000 people and two deaths.  Case
> number per day is down to five or six, and I believe nearly all of them
> were people in observation for exposure.
> >>
> >> Couple people refused to self isolate and were promptly served with
> stay at home orders by a local judge -- we still have quarantine laws on
> the books from when there were no antibiotics or vaccines for common
> illnesses like scarlet fever a measles.
> >>
> >> while it may seem very harsh and draconian, the lockdown in China
> worked.  You have to understand the filtering of news there, but I suspect
> the reported case numbers are reasonably accurate -- if the Parry lies too
> much, they will be overthrown, it's how things work in China.  South Korea
> and Tiawan, both of whom had serious issues with SARS in the 90s, have very
> low cases as well.
> >>
> >> One point more -- nightclubs opened in Seol, and at least 126 cases
> have come from a single club over a couple nights.  This is what I'm
> worried about with the lunatics that squeal about how their "rights" are
> being infringed by public health measures.  Only takes one jerk ignoring
> the health rules to infect hundreds of people in close quarters.  Ditto for
> the boob that insisted he run his barber shop in spite of the shutdown --
> he's now positive and who knows how many of his clients are too as a result.
> >>
> >> I definitely error on the side of caution, it's why I've driven a Benz
> for decades.  Hardly an imposition to wear a mask compared to getting
> really, really sick or killing my elderly mother.  We are not all isolated
> sovereign states with no responsibilities, we are a community and need to
> remember everyone is entitled to what we are.  Or as my Grandmother used to
> say "You have your rights, true -- until they run into mine, and you are
> standing on my toes"
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Re: [MBZ] Covid. was: THe Bug

[Clay via Mercedes]

Ask the Navy.  Seems sailors on the Roosevelt (docked in Guam) are getting 
cleared for duty after multiple tests show clean.  There have been around a 
half dozen or more who have been re-infected.

Same sort of situations reported in UK, Canada, as well as other nations.   
This may not be something that ever “goes away”.


clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 16, 2020, at 6:44 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a very good writeup IMO.
> 
> Do you or anyone else know how long after symptoms of covid subside that 
> patients are no longer infectious?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> Actually, isolation is the only way to stop the spread.  This is an unusual 
>> virus in that it's possible to actually stop the spread, difficulty is that 
>> it can have a long incubation period with virus shedding going on for some 
>> days before symptoms get bad enough to send someone in for testing.
>> 
>> This isn't the first time, either -- SARS and MERS are similar viruses, just 
>> much less transmissible.  Another long forgotten incident involved fur 
>> animals in Manchuria in the early part of the 1900s, when no vaccine was 
>> possible.  That outbreak was traced back to harvesitng sick animals for fur, 
>> and was stopped by guess what, cloth masks and social distancing.
>> 
>> The key to stopping the spread is testing and contact tracing -- if people 
>> can be tested easily, it's possible to break the chain of transmission, and 
>> when no more people are getting infected, eventually the virus will no long 
>> reproduce.
>> 
>> My local county has always had a pretty strong public health department, and 
>> has been on top of tracing and testing since the start -- luckily, we are 
>> more or less remote here, and full state wide social restrictions were in 
>> place before the first cases showed up.  The result is that we have just 
>> over 200 cases for 200,000 people and two deaths.  Case number per day is 
>> down to five or six, and I believe nearly all of them were people in 
>> observation for exposure.
>> 
>> Couple people refused to self isolate and were promptly served with stay at 
>> home orders by a local judge -- we still have quarantine laws on the books 
>> from when there were no antibiotics or vaccines for common illnesses like 
>> scarlet fever a measles.
>> 
>> while it may seem very harsh and draconian, the lockdown in China worked.  
>> You have to understand the filtering of news there, but I suspect the 
>> reported case numbers are reasonably accurate -- if the Parry lies too much, 
>> they will be overthrown, it's how things work in China.  South Korea and 
>> Tiawan, both of whom had serious issues with SARS in the 90s, have very low 
>> cases as well.
>> 
>> One point more -- nightclubs opened in Seol, and at least 126 cases have 
>> come from a single club over a couple nights.  This is what I'm worried 
>> about with the lunatics that squeal about how their "rights" are being 
>> infringed by public health measures.  Only takes one jerk ignoring the 
>> health rules to infect hundreds of people in close quarters.  Ditto for the 
>> boob that insisted he run his barber shop in spite of the shutdown -- he's 
>> now positive and who knows how many of his clients are too as a result.
>> 
>> I definitely error on the side of caution, it's why I've driven a Benz for 
>> decades.  Hardly an imposition to wear a mask compared to getting really, 
>> really sick or killing my elderly mother.  We are not all isolated sovereign 
>> states with no responsibilities, we are a community and need to remember 
>> everyone is entitled to what we are.  Or as my Grandmother used to say "You 
>> have your rights, true -- until they run into mine, and you are standing on 
>> my toes"
>> 
>> Far too many people who blow on about their "right" to do whatever they want 
>> are notably absent when it's time to take responsibility for the results of 
>> their actions.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid. was: THe Bug

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

2 weeks although that may also be a premature conculsion

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:45 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a very good writeup IMO.
>
> Do you or anyone else know how long after symptoms of covid subside that
> patients are no longer infectious?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Actually, isolation is the only way to stop the spread.  This is an
> unusual virus in that it's possible to actually stop the spread, difficulty
> is that it can have a long incubation period with virus shedding going on
> for some days before symptoms get bad enough to send someone in for testing.
> >
> > This isn't the first time, either -- SARS and MERS are similar viruses,
> just much less transmissible.  Another long forgotten incident involved fur
> animals in Manchuria in the early part of the 1900s, when no vaccine was
> possible.  That outbreak was traced back to harvesitng sick animals for
> fur, and was stopped by guess what, cloth masks and social distancing.
> >
> > The key to stopping the spread is testing and contact tracing -- if
> people can be tested easily, it's possible to break the chain of
> transmission, and when no more people are getting infected, eventually the
> virus will no long reproduce.
> >
> > My local county has always had a pretty strong public health department,
> and has been on top of tracing and testing since the start -- luckily, we
> are more or less remote here, and full state wide social restrictions were
> in place before the first cases showed up.  The result is that we have just
> over 200 cases for 200,000 people and two deaths.  Case number per day is
> down to five or six, and I believe nearly all of them were people in
> observation for exposure.
> >
> > Couple people refused to self isolate and were promptly served with stay
> at home orders by a local judge -- we still have quarantine laws on the
> books from when there were no antibiotics or vaccines for common illnesses
> like scarlet fever a measles.
> >
> > while it may seem very harsh and draconian, the lockdown in China
> worked.  You have to understand the filtering of news there, but I suspect
> the reported case numbers are reasonably accurate -- if the Parry lies too
> much, they will be overthrown, it's how things work in China.  South Korea
> and Tiawan, both of whom had serious issues with SARS in the 90s, have very
> low cases as well.
> >
> > One point more -- nightclubs opened in Seol, and at least 126 cases have
> come from a single club over a couple nights.  This is what I'm worried
> about with the lunatics that squeal about how their "rights" are being
> infringed by public health measures.  Only takes one jerk ignoring the
> health rules to infect hundreds of people in close quarters.  Ditto for the
> boob that insisted he run his barber shop in spite of the shutdown -- he's
> now positive and who knows how many of his clients are too as a result.
> >
> > I definitely error on the side of caution, it's why I've driven a Benz
> for decades.  Hardly an imposition to wear a mask compared to getting
> really, really sick or killing my elderly mother.  We are not all isolated
> sovereign states with no responsibilities, we are a community and need to
> remember everyone is entitled to what we are.  Or as my Grandmother used to
> say "You have your rights, true -- until they run into mine, and you are
> standing on my toes"
> >
> > Far too many people who blow on about their "right" to do whatever they
> want are notably absent when it's time to take responsibility for the
> results of their actions.
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And icing on the cake - you are still alive!

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 5:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pterostilbene (100 mg daily) and Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) (300mg daily).
> Learned about it a about six months ago. Started taking it without any
> expectations, in fact, I fully expected it to be a lot of hype and do
> nothing.
>
> I’ve had leg/muscle/joint pain in my left leg/knee for about a year. I
> can’t easily raise it, like you would to tie a shoe while sitting down and
> crossing your legs. Doctor poo-poos the condition and says I just need to
> spend more time stretching. I challenged him, asking why I didn’t have to
> do the same for my right leg. No answer.
>
> Anyway, I heard about this stuff last year and thought I would give it a
> try. Everything I read said that it would take a good 3-4 months before
> there were any noticeable effects. Within about 45 days my left leg/knee is
> now free of pain and I have almost 100% mobility.
>
> Maybe it’s a placebo, but I could definitely tell things were gradually
> getting better as I took it. It costs me about $60/month for everything,
> but for the results I’m getting I’m quite pleased with it.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:39 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dan says:
> >
> >> I take some anti-aging supplements, too. Wicked stuff that has really
> done well.
> >
> > What in particular?
> >
> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pterostilbene (100 mg daily) and Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) (300mg daily). 
Learned about it a about six months ago. Started taking it without any 
expectations, in fact, I fully expected it to be a lot of hype and do nothing.

I’ve had leg/muscle/joint pain in my left leg/knee for about a year. I can’t 
easily raise it, like you would to tie a shoe while sitting down and crossing 
your legs. Doctor poo-poos the condition and says I just need to spend more 
time stretching. I challenged him, asking why I didn’t have to do the same for 
my right leg. No answer.

Anyway, I heard about this stuff last year and thought I would give it a try. 
Everything I read said that it would take a good 3-4 months before there were 
any noticeable effects. Within about 45 days my left leg/knee is now free of 
pain and I have almost 100% mobility.

Maybe it’s a placebo, but I could definitely tell things were gradually getting 
better as I took it. It costs me about $60/month for everything, but for the 
results I’m getting I’m quite pleased with it.

-D



> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:39 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan says:
> 
>> I take some anti-aging supplements, too. Wicked stuff that has really done 
>> well.
> 
> What in particular?
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan says:

>I take some anti-aging supplements, too. Wicked stuff that has really done 
>well.

What in particular?

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I get plenty of D naturally, but I’ve taken 1000 IU of C daily for years. Not 
sure if it makes a difference, but Linus Pauling seemed to think it did.

I take some anti-aging supplements, too. Wicked stuff that has really done well.

-D


> On Mar 9, 2020, at 6:42 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:15:31 -0700
> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  wrote:
>> This Brit Dr. presents scientific evidence that vit D supplements can 
>> prevent respiratory infections:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Possibly superfluous for "Florida Man", but could make a big difference for 
>> those in the GWN or PNW.
>> Greg 
> ...
> Consuming 400–800 IU (10–20 mcg) daily of Vitamin D certainly wouldn't hurt 
> anyone and would very likely be good for them, but the claim that vitamin D 
> supplements can prevent respiratory infections is still being researched; 
> with some reports showing doubt: 
> 
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5067742/
> 
> Gerry
> 
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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:15:31 -0700
Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  wrote:
> This Brit Dr. presents scientific evidence that vit D supplements can prevent 
> respiratory infections:
 
> 
> 
> Possibly superfluous for "Florida Man", but could make a big difference for 
> those in the GWN or PNW.
> Greg 
...
Consuming 400–800 IU (10–20 mcg) daily of Vitamin D certainly wouldn't hurt 
anyone and would very likely be good for them, but the claim that vitamin D 
supplements can prevent respiratory infections is still being researched; with 
some reports showing doubt: 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5067742/

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[Clay via Mercedes]

I prefer a daily dose of D the natural way.  Too damn cold in GNW to go bu** 
nekkid though.

clay

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you're truly vitamin-deficient it's a good idea to correct that. But
> don't think that loading up on vitamin C or D is really going to do much
> for you, beyond having "enough."
> 
> Vitamin D deficiency is a thing though, since so many people have been
> scared into thinking that if they're not wearing at least SPF 50
> sunscreen at all times that they are going to die of skin cancer.
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] COVID-19 and Vit. D

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If you're truly vitamin-deficient it's a good idea to correct that. But
don't think that loading up on vitamin C or D is really going to do much
for you, beyond having "enough."

Vitamin D deficiency is a thing though, since so many people have been
scared into thinking that if they're not wearing at least SPF 50
sunscreen at all times that they are going to die of skin cancer.

Allan


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  writes:

> This Brit Dr. presents scientific evidence that vit D supplements can prevent 
> respiratory infections:
>
> 
>
> Possibly superfluous for "Florida Man", but could make a big difference for 
> those in the GWN or PNW.
>
> Greg 

-- 
Allan Streib
Indiana University
Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering
Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems

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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would extend an olive branch to each of my detractors, but there aren't
enough trees in the olive grove to do that.


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 1:31 PM dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yeah, I could make a reference to something in order to draw parallels
> from another list but I won’t.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > U because we are all a bunch of kindergartens here.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:08 PM, dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Discussion of topical subject matter is OK, but it tends to devolve
> into the sort of kindergarten playground behavior we’ve been experiencing.
> If we can’t play nice together, people will have to go on “time out”.
> >>
> >> Nuff’ said.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Dan
> >>> Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  This is the List Mom speaking.
> 
>  Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger
> is on the moderation button.
> 
>  And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be
> looking at time stamps.
> 
>  Back to Mercedes content, please.
> 
>  List Mom
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, I could make a reference to something in order to draw parallels from 
another list but I won’t.

-D

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> U because we are all a bunch of kindergartens here. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:08 PM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Discussion of topical subject matter is OK, but it tends to devolve into 
>> the sort of kindergarten playground behavior we’ve been experiencing. If we 
>> can’t play nice together, people will have to go on “time out”.
>> 
>> Nuff’ said.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Dan
>>> Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
 This is the List Mom speaking.
 
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 the moderation button.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

U because we are all a bunch of kindergartens here. 

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> On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:08 PM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Discussion of topical subject matter is OK, but it tends to devolve into the 
> sort of kindergarten playground behavior we’ve been experiencing. If we can’t 
> play nice together, people will have to go on “time out”.
> 
> Nuff’ said.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Dan
>> Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
 On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
>>> This is the List Mom speaking.
>>> 
>>> Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on 
>>> the moderation button.
>>> 
>>> And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be 
>>> looking at time stamps.
>>> 
>>> Back to Mercedes content, please.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Discussion of topical subject matter is OK, but it tends to devolve into the 
sort of kindergarten playground behavior we’ve been experiencing. If we can’t 
play nice together, people will have to go on “time out”.

Nuff’ said.

-D


> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan
>  Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> This is the List Mom speaking.
>> 
>> Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on 
>> the moderation button.
>> 
>> And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be 
>> looking at time stamps.
>> 
>> Back to Mercedes content, please.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan
 Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> This is the List Mom speaking.
>
> Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on
> the moderation button.
>
> And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be
> looking at time stamps.
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> Back to Mercedes content, please.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*Goes well with Lyme disease!*

Touche.  That's one of the best yet, whether or not it's original.   (What
is "original" these days anyway?)

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:46 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I hear.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Goes well with Lyme disease!
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Mar 9, 2020 12:38:40 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> I’m bound to die from the beer virus. This plane I’m sitting on getting
> ready to take off out of Tulsa is full of people hacking and coughing.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
>  On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:24 AM, dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is the List Mom speaking.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So I hear. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Goes well with Lyme disease!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Mar 9, 2020 12:38:40 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> I’m bound to die from the beer virus. This plane I’m sitting on getting 
>> ready to take off out of Tulsa is full of people hacking and coughing.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:24 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is the List Mom speaking.
>>> 
>>> Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on 
>>> the moderation button.
>>> 
>>> And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be 
>>> looking at time stamps.
>>> 
>>> Back to Mercedes content, please.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Goes well with Lyme disease!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 9, 2020 12:38:40 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> I’m bound to die from the beer virus. This plane I’m sitting on getting ready 
> to take off out of Tulsa is full of people hacking and coughing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:24 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > This is the List Mom speaking.
> > 
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> > the moderation button.
> > 
> > And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be 
> > looking at time stamps.
> > 
> > Back to Mercedes content, please.
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