Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in Ontario. While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever. As you say, in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life. I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not allowed to be mailed within Canada. Now sure if that applies to export too, or just within certain provinces. I was told once, that owning Cuban cigars isn't illegal in the US, only buying or selling them. I think anything pre-embargo is ok, but that stuff is probably crazy expensive now. A few years back, I still have a couple of REAL Cuban Davidoff sticks in my humidor. Try finding those today!! hee hee If you do buy cigars from Canada, that you are allowed to take back with you, see if you can claim the tobacco tax when you get home, and get a rebate from the Canadian gov. I know with some of the taxes, friends have claimed them upon arriving home, and received a cheque. As the taxes are intended for our domestic market, might be worth looking into. The markup on tobacco is very high here! Now, that might not be such a good idea if you're submitting a stub for Cuban cigars, and the refund is going to the US. ;-) What Canadian spirits are you interested in? Ed 300E * Re: cigars. What you do is unband the Cubans, put the Cuban bands in your wallet, reband them using a dot of glue with something US legal, and when you get back home, put the proper bands back on the Cubans. You will have to take notes on which cigars are which so yoiu can reunite them with their proper labels. The chances are very remote that you will encounter a customs agent who is such an afficionado that they can tell a rebanded Cuban on sight. Just won't happen. So, just march your cigars right thru customs and wave them in their faces, meaning their eyes will immediately glaze over. Mix in a handful of non Cubans--even ones you can get cheaper in the States--just to fog the picture even more. This is, ahem, just a theory, of course :) Re: Canadian Liquor. Brother Todd (who has gone inactive on the MBZ list) and I were raised by a father whose favorite whiskey was Crown Royal, and adopted his prejudices. Now, i know what people say about Crown Royal--that it is the Budweiser of Canadian Whiskeys, but I don't care. I am not interested in being a Canadian whiskey snob--call me a rube--I like Crown Royal. For decades there was just one Crown Royal, and recently the distiller has produced some variants. In fact, just this summer, CR announced it just launched Crown Royal Black, which is supposed to be a darker, richer variant of Old Reliable. It is only to be marketed in Canada, at least for the time being, according to their web page. Now THAT is something I would like to get my American paws on... DBV, mercedes list information minister 450SL 74 E320 95 99 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Nod to the north, Van. I had a Sprecker with my lunch today. Yum. I hear that Harley is threatening to move production out of town. That should be getting the locals worked up. Dan who just got his monthly care package from Bernie's Fine Meats in Port Washington, WI today. * The US does have some pretty good microbrews. Sprecher, based out of Milwaukee, is so popular that it is in danger of losing its microbrew status. Could probably be the next Miller if they were ambitious enough, meaning sadly of course that it would probably turn into another Miller, if you know what i mean. Re: Harley: this isn't a union issue. H-D's unique relationship with their employees where probably 99% of employees own hogs and are intensely loyal to the company. They are receptive to inevitable insurance/wage/freeze/cutbacks. The fuckup here is the state of Wisconsin. They are planning on changing the tax status of Harley Davidson. Its a bit complicated, but at present, whatever state HD does business in, Harley gets to pay taxes at the tax rate of that state. IN that most states have lower tax rates than Wis, this is a strategic advantage for HD. However, the powers that be in Madison propose to change that so that *ALL* business done in other states is payable to the state at Wisconsin's rates. Retroactive to Jan 1, this introduces an instant addit'l tax liability to HD of $22 million. HD is struggling mightily, with indulgences such as Harleys being the first budget item cut by families, and they just don't have $22 M which they'll have to cough up annually into perpetuity. THe public is very upset over the state being so short sighted that they are threatening a landmark industry that has defined Milwaukee since 1903 over a $22 million money grab, which they will get to do exactly once before HD packs up and leavs. Public sentiment is 99% in support of Harley, and disgust towards the State. The left wing rag Milwaukee Journal moans about Harley's lack of loyalty to Milwaukee and Wisconsin in their op eds, but get little traction. Meanwhile there are other states lined up at HD's door courting them--the usual low tax states: Tennessee, Kentucky etc. begging them to move. Who wouldn't want a plum like Harley Davidson? You can practically wrap yourself in the American flag. All this is still in the proposal stage, but if it goes thru and HD leaves after 107 years here, heads in Madison will roll like pumpkins. DBV, business beat information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you run a messenger service too? --R On 8/4/2010 12:37 AM, Van Knutson wrote: DBV wrote: I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. What do you mean? The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no? mao *** I'll be impressed with the ChiComs when their cigars are as good as Cubans. So far they haven't demonstrated they can keep mercury out of childrens toys, tooth paste or dog food. Cigars might be a bit of a tall order for them. DBV, quicksilver information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like the signs at liquor stores now that say 100% alcohol, no gas! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out. last time i was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a litre of premium fuel. hee hee. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There was a time here, about 15 years ago, that that sign would have be questioned, if it was in the French wine section. lol. Ed 300E On 4 August 2010 13:03, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I like the signs at liquor stores now that say 100% alcohol, no gas! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out. last time i was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a litre of premium fuel. hee hee. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have minimum beer and wine pricing here. I remember about 10 years or so years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50 or so a bottle. Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or whatever it was. It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov that seems to if they set the min price high enough, no one will get drunk and misbehave. Another example of, how did we ever get by before the gov came along told us what was best for us. hee hee. As for cigars, they are something I enjoy, along with the odd bowl of pipe tobacco. Usually a bowl or a cigar on the weekends. I have a few Cohibas in my humidor at the moment, but I have to admit, not my fave stick. My fave shape is Robusto. Big enough ring to get enough complexity from the filler, and a long enough smoke for me. Pipe tobacco, I lean towards the English blends, with Latakia. Hard to find a good selection of proper pipe tobaccos now. I hear Dunhill is reintroducing several of theirs. Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out. last time i was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a litre of premium fuel. hee hee. Plan another trip up, we have several really good tobacconists with great selections of cigars. :-) Just remember to fill your tank before crossing over, the gas prices here will shock you!! Ed 300E You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends. The rationale is: its bad for you, and if you do it a lot it will kill you, but if you do it jst a bit, maybe you can get away with being naughty! Either way, life without an occasional good cigar is a life not worth living, eh? Yeah, that would be cool. Where in CA do you live? I live in the Milwaukee area, Racine to be exact. As mentioned, my one trip to the Great White North was to Sarnia, ONT, just north of Detroit/Windsor. There is some booze that I wouldn't mind hooking up with in Canada. IIRC, we Americans get to declare one litre per adult per trip duty free. I'm not sure what the deal w/cigars is. Cubans going back are a no-no, but you simply unband them in-country and put another on them, like Dutch Masters ; ) and it simply isnt' worth the customs agents time to debate it with you. DBV, singing the smugglers blues information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
Nod to the north, Van. I had a Sprecker with my lunch today. Yum. I hear that Harley is threatening to move production out of town. That should be getting the locals worked up. Dan who just got his monthly care package from Bernie's Fine Meats in Port Washington, WI today. --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ? To: mercedes okiebenz mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 4:04 PM You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends. The rationale is: its bad for you, and if you do it a lot it will kill you, but if you do it jst a bit, maybe you can get away with being naughty! Either way, life without an occasional good cigar is a life not worth living, eh? Yeah, that would be cool. Where in CA do you live? I live in the Milwaukee area, Racine to be exact. As mentioned, my one trip to the Great White North was to Sarnia, ONT, just north of Detroit/Windsor. There is some booze that I wouldn't mind hooking up with in Canada. IIRC, we Americans get to declare one litre per adult per trip duty free. I'm not sure what the deal w/cigars is. Cubans going back are a no-no, but you simply unband them in-country and put another on them, like Dutch Masters ; ) and it simply isnt' worth the customs agents time to debate it with you. DBV, singing the smugglers blues information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm in Ontario. While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever. As you say, in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life. I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not allowed to be mailed within Canada. Now sure if that applies to export too, or just within certain provinces. I was told once, that owning Cuban cigars isn't illegal in the US, only buying or selling them. I think anything pre-embargo is ok, but that stuff is probably crazy expensive now. A few years back, I still have a couple of REAL Cuban Davidoff sticks in my humidor. Try finding those today!! hee hee If you do buy cigars from Canada, that you are allowed to take back with you, see if you can claim the tobacco tax when you get home, and get a rebate from the Canadian gov. I know with some of the taxes, friends have claimed them upon arriving home, and received a cheque. As the taxes are intended for our domestic market, might be worth looking into. The markup on tobacco is very high here! Now, that might not be such a good idea if you're submitting a stub for Cuban cigars, and the refund is going to the US. ;-) What Canadian spirits are you interested in? Ed 300E On 4 August 2010 16:04, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: We have minimum beer and wine pricing here. I remember about 10 years or so years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50 or so a bottle. Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or whatever it was. It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov that seems to if they set the min price high enough, no one will get drunk and misbehave. Another example of, how did we ever get by before the gov came along told us what was best for us. hee hee. As for cigars, they are something I enjoy, along with the odd bowl of pipe tobacco. Usually a bowl or a cigar on the weekends. I have a few Cohibas in my humidor at the moment, but I have to admit, not my fave stick. My fave shape is Robusto. Big enough ring to get enough complexity from the filler, and a long enough smoke for me. Pipe tobacco, I lean towards the English blends, with Latakia. Hard to find a good selection of proper pipe tobaccos now. I hear Dunhill is reintroducing several of theirs. Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out. last time i was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a litre of premium fuel. hee hee. Plan another trip up, we have several really good tobacconists with great selections of cigars. :-) Just remember to fill your tank before crossing over, the gas prices here will shock you!! Ed 300E You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends. The rationale is: its bad for you, and if you do it a lot it will kill you, but if you do it jst a bit, maybe you can get away with being naughty! Either way, life without an occasional good cigar is a life not worth living, eh? Yeah, that would be cool. Where in CA do you live? I live in the Milwaukee area, Racine to be exact. As mentioned, my one trip to the Great White North was to Sarnia, ONT, just north of Detroit/Windsor. There is some booze that I wouldn't mind hooking up with in Canada. IIRC, we Americans get to declare one litre per adult per trip duty free. I'm not sure what the deal w/cigars is. Cubans going back are a no-no, but you simply unband them in-country and put another on them, like Dutch Masters ; ) and it simply isnt' worth the customs agents time to debate it with you. DBV, singing the smugglers blues information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I mentioned the $1.04 per litre. We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added to most things, including gas. To put it in perspective, when gas is now $1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good price! And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the W124 likes to drink. Ed 300E, who curses the cost of gas during the drive to the beer store, only to get smacked again!! It's enough to drive someone to smoke, but of course, after filling the tank, and getting a case of beer, there's no money left for tobacco. hee hee ** You unwittingly hit a sore spot. On balance, Canadian beer--if you forced my choice--is better than American, especially considering we have 10X the resources. The state controlled prices are more expensive but livable. However, what y'all got on us absolutely is your access to Cuban cigars. My last excursion to get Cubans (in Sarnia, ONT) with brother DBT was years ago. We cherished every puff--even more so because they were contraband once we got them across the border. When Cuba got off the Soviet Union's tit when the Russkies collapsed at the end of the cold war, they started cranking them out to make up for lost revenue and the quality went down. That being said, tho, there is no mistaking a Cuban cigar. I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. DBV, Cohiba dreamin information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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DBV wrote: I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. What do you mean? The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
We have minimum beer and wine pricing here. I remember about 10 years or so years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50 or so a bottle. Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or whatever it was. It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov that seems to if they set the min price high enough, no one will get drunk and misbehave. Another example of, how did we ever get by before the gov came along told us what was best for us. hee hee. As for cigars, they are something I enjoy, along with the odd bowl of pipe tobacco. Usually a bowl or a cigar on the weekends. I have a few Cohibas in my humidor at the moment, but I have to admit, not my fave stick. My fave shape is Robusto. Big enough ring to get enough complexity from the filler, and a long enough smoke for me. Pipe tobacco, I lean towards the English blends, with Latakia. Hard to find a good selection of proper pipe tobaccos now. I hear Dunhill is reintroducing several of theirs. Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out. last time i was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a litre of premium fuel. hee hee. Plan another trip up, we have several really good tobacconists with great selections of cigars. :-) Just remember to fill your tank before crossing over, the gas prices here will shock you!! Ed 300E On 3 August 2010 17:14, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I mentioned the $1.04 per litre. We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added to most things, including gas. To put it in perspective, when gas is now $1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good price! And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the W124 likes to drink. Ed 300E, who curses the cost of gas during the drive to the beer store, only to get smacked again!! It's enough to drive someone to smoke, but of course, after filling the tank, and getting a case of beer, there's no money left for tobacco. hee hee ** You unwittingly hit a sore spot. On balance, Canadian beer--if you forced my choice--is better than American, especially considering we have 10X the resources. The state controlled prices are more expensive but livable. However, what y'all got on us absolutely is your access to Cuban cigars. My last excursion to get Cubans (in Sarnia, ONT) with brother DBT was years ago. We cherished every puff--even more so because they were contraband once we got them across the border. When Cuba got off the Soviet Union's tit when the Russkies collapsed at the end of the cold war, they started cranking them out to make up for lost revenue and the quality went down. That being said, tho, there is no mistaking a Cuban cigar. I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. DBV, Cohiba dreamin information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
DBV wrote: I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. What do you mean? The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no? mao *** I'll be impressed with the ChiComs when their cigars are as good as Cubans. So far they haven't demonstrated they can keep mercury out of childrens toys, tooth paste or dog food. Cigars might be a bit of a tall order for them. DBV, quicksilver information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
In some states it is different. In NC, you don't have to label until you cross 15%, and maybe not even then. Found this helpful list, which may or may not be accurate but at least has been updated in the past year: http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html There is a station that advertises No Ethanol on I-85, but I don't get up that way often. And as long as they don't start cutting diesel I probably won't, I don't like the Ford that much... :) -Tim On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure about gas where you buy it, but here, most premium is all gas, where the lower grades are cut with ethynol (sp). It doesn't have the same bang for the buck per gallon, so when you factor all things, in, I'm not sure how much cheaper running regular really is. I personally just follow the manual. Run premium where it says to, and regular in the cars that were made for it. *** I dunno, but in the Peoples' Republic of Wisconsin, the 10% Ethanol sign just appears smack in the middle of the pump, with no indication that it does not apply to higher grades. I am sure we get booze in our gas no matter what grade. DBV, could be wrong, was wrong before but still good looking information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and regular is cut with up to 10%. Ed 300E On 2 August 2010 08:30, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: In some states it is different. In NC, you don't have to label until you cross 15%, and maybe not even then. Found this helpful list, which may or may not be accurate but at least has been updated in the past year: http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html There is a station that advertises No Ethanol on I-85, but I don't get up that way often. And as long as they don't start cutting diesel I probably won't, I don't like the Ford that much... :) -Tim On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure about gas where you buy it, but here, most premium is all gas, where the lower grades are cut with ethynol (sp). It doesn't have the same bang for the buck per gallon, so when you factor all things, in, I'm not sure how much cheaper running regular really is. I personally just follow the manual. Run premium where it says to, and regular in the cars that were made for it. *** I dunno, but in the Peoples' Republic of Wisconsin, the 10% Ethanol sign just appears smack in the middle of the pump, with no indication that it does not apply to higher grades. I am sure we get booze in our gas no matter what grade. DBV, could be wrong, was wrong before but still good looking information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and regular is cut with up to 10%. Usually the station has two gas tanks, and mixes the midgrade at the pump, so that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is many states, like Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio, not requiring the pump to be labeled for alcohol content. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre. Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!! Ed 300E On 2 August 2010 10:12, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: E M wrote: In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and regular is cut with up to 10%. Usually the station has two gas tanks, and mixes the midgrade at the pump, so that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is many states, like Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio, not requiring the pump to be labeled for alcohol content. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre. Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!! Ed 300E ** Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal. For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter. It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas. Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient diesel? With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas. DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
I'll pay attention at next gas up, and post how they break it down here. Regular today, is $1.04 per litre, and diesel a bit less. Up until a few months ago, diesel was equal, or a bit more than regular. Ed 300E, fed the good stuff. ;-) On 2 August 2010 12:17, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre. Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!! Ed 300E ** Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal. For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter. It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas. Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient diesel? With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas. DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
This explains why I am taking the Dogde van to the peoples democratic republic of WI tomorrow. By the time you get to north WI, both gas and Diesel are $0.30/gal higher than the rest of the country. It is cheaper to run the van than the SDL in those conditions. $.57 a gallon is a ridiculous fuel tax. I have the van tweaked to where it is almost as good for long trips as the SDL. Once again I mourn the 2007 Grand Caravan which was promised to have an MB Diesel ala Der Sprinter. ** Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal. For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter. It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas. Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient diesel? With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas. DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
Hee hee, .57 a gallon. Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon. We're not Europe, but that's not stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!! Ed 300E On 2 August 2010 13:16, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This explains why I am taking the Dogde van to the peoples democratic republic of WI tomorrow. By the time you get to north WI, both gas and Diesel are $0.30/gal higher than the rest of the country. It is cheaper to run the van than the SDL in those conditions. $.57 a gallon is a ridiculous fuel tax. I have the van tweaked to where it is almost as good for long trips as the SDL. Once again I mourn the 2007 Grand Caravan which was promised to have an MB Diesel ala Der Sprinter. ** Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal. For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter. It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas. Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient diesel? With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas. DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
Van Knutson wrote: Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Federal Excise tax on diesel is 24.4 cents, but I think you can get 6 cents off for heavy duty on road trucks. Off road business use can get it back on the income tax return. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
they tax more for diesel in OK as well. Van Knutson wrote: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre. Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!! Ed 300E ** Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal. For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter. It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas. Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient diesel? With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas. DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Hee hee, .57 a gallon. Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon. We're not Europe, but that's not stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!! Ed 300E You or someone like you mentioned gas was $1.04 / litre by you. For sake of argument lets say CanaBucks and AmeriBucks are a wash. Then, if you do the math (3,78:1) that comes out to $3.93 / gallon. Gas prices in the US briefly touched $4/gal two summers ago, and we damn near hada second revolution over it. Geez. Soft life here, I guess. DBV, taxman information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
I mentioned the $1.04 per litre. We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added to most things, including gas. To put it in perspective, when gas is now $1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good price! And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the W124 likes to drink. Ed 300E, who curses the cost of gas during the drive to the beer store, only to get smacked again!! It's enough to drive someone to smoke, but of course, after filling the tank, and getting a case of beer, there's no money left for tobacco. hee hee On 2 August 2010 22:47, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Hee hee, .57 a gallon. Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon. We're not Europe, but that's not stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!! Ed 300E You or someone like you mentioned gas was $1.04 / litre by you. For sake of argument lets say CanaBucks and AmeriBucks are a wash. Then, if you do the math (3,78:1) that comes out to $3.93 / gallon. Gas prices in the US briefly touched $4/gal two summers ago, and we damn near hada second revolution over it. Geez. Soft life here, I guess. DBV, taxman information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com