Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-06 Thread Van Knutson
E M pokieba...@gmail.com  wrote:




 


I'm in Ontario.  While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd
cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever.  As you say,
in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life.

I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not allowed to be
mailed within Canada.  Now sure if that applies to export too, or just
within certain provinces.  I was told once, that owning Cuban cigars isn't
illegal in the US, only buying or selling them.  I think anything
pre-embargo is ok, but that stuff is probably crazy expensive now.  A few
years back, I still have a couple of REAL Cuban Davidoff sticks in my
humidor.  Try finding those today!! hee hee

If you do buy cigars from Canada, that you are allowed to take back with
you, see if you can claim the tobacco tax when you get home, and get a
rebate from the Canadian gov.  I know with some of the taxes, friends have
claimed them upon arriving home, and received a cheque.  As the taxes are
intended for our domestic market, might be worth looking into.  The markup
on tobacco is very high here!  Now, that might not be such a good idea if
you're submitting a stub for Cuban cigars, and the refund is going to the
US. ;-)

What Canadian spirits are you interested in?

Ed
300E

 *
Re: cigars.  What you do is unband the Cubans, put the Cuban bands in your 
wallet, reband them using a dot of glue with something  US legal, and when you 
get back home, put the proper bands back on the Cubans.  You will have to take 
notes on which cigars are which so yoiu can reunite them with their 
proper labels.  The chances are very remote that you will encounter a customs 
agent who is such an afficionado that they can tell a rebanded Cuban on sight.  
Just won't happen.  So, just march your cigars right thru customs and wave them 
in their faces, meaning their eyes will immediately glaze over.  Mix in a 
handful of non Cubans--even ones you can get cheaper in the States--just to fog 
the picture even more.  This is, ahem, just a theory, of course :)
 
Re: Canadian Liquor.  Brother Todd (who has gone inactive on the MBZ list) and 
I were raised by a father whose favorite whiskey was Crown Royal, and adopted 
his prejudices.
Now, i know what people say about Crown Royal--that it is the Budweiser of 
Canadian Whiskeys, but I don't care.  I am not interested in being a Canadian 
whiskey snob--call me a rube--I like Crown Royal. 
For decades there was just one Crown Royal, and recently the distiller has 
produced some variants.  In fact, just this summer, CR announced it just 
launched Crown Royal Black, which is supposed to be a darker, richer variant of 
Old Reliable.  It is only to be marketed in Canada, at least for the time 
being, according to their web page.  Now THAT is something I would like to get 
my American paws on...
DBV, mercedes list information minister
450SL 74
E320 95  99


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-05 Thread Van Knutson
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com



 


Nod to the north, Van.  I had a Sprecker with my lunch today.  Yum.

I hear that Harley is threatening to move production out of town.  That should 
be getting the locals worked up.

Dan who just got his monthly care package from Bernie's Fine Meats in Port 
Washington, WI today.

*
 
The US does have some pretty good microbrews.  Sprecher, based out of 
Milwaukee, is so popular that it is in danger of losing its microbrew status.   
Could probably be the next Miller if they were ambitious enough, meaning sadly 
of course that it would probably turn into another Miller, if you know what i 
mean.

Re: Harley: this isn't a union issue.  H-D's unique relationship with their 
employees where probably 99% of employees own hogs and are intensely loyal to 
the company.  They are receptive to inevitable insurance/wage/freeze/cutbacks.
 
The fuckup here is the state of Wisconsin.  They are planning on changing the 
tax status of Harley Davidson.  Its a bit complicated, but at present, whatever 
state HD does business in, Harley gets to pay taxes at the tax rate of that 
state.  IN that most states have lower tax rates than Wis, this is a strategic 
advantage for HD.
 
However, the powers that be in Madison propose to change that so that *ALL*  
business done in other states is payable to the state at Wisconsin's rates.   
Retroactive to Jan 1, this introduces an instant addit'l tax liability to HD of 
$22 million.   HD is struggling mightily, with indulgences such as Harleys 
being the first budget item cut by families, and they just don't have $22 M 
which they'll have to cough up annually into perpetuity.
 
THe public is very upset over the state being so short sighted that they are 
threatening a landmark industry that has defined Milwaukee since 1903 over a 
$22 million money grab, which they will get to do exactly once before HD packs 
up and leavs.  Public sentiment is 99% in support of Harley, and disgust 
towards the State.
 
The left wing rag Milwaukee Journal moans about Harley's lack of loyalty to 
Milwaukee and Wisconsin in their op eds, but get little traction.  
 
Meanwhile there are other states lined up at HD's door courting them--the usual 
low tax states: Tennessee, Kentucky etc. begging them to move.  Who wouldn't 
want a plum like Harley Davidson?  You can practically wrap yourself in the 
American flag.
 
All this is still in the proposal stage, but if it goes thru and HD leaves 
after 107 years here, heads in Madison will roll like pumpkins.
 
DBV, business beat information minister


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread Rich Thomas

Do you run a messenger service too?

--R

On 8/4/2010 12:37 AM, Van Knutson wrote:

DBV wrote:
   

I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a 
waste of time and open trade with the Commies.

 

What do you mean?
The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no?
mao

***
I'll be impressed with the ChiComs when their cigars are as good as Cubans.
  
So far they haven't demonstrated they can keep mercury out of childrens toys, tooth paste or dog food.  Cigars might be a bit of a tall order for them.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread OK Don
I like the signs at liquor stores now that say 100% alcohol, no gas!

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:



 Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out.  last time i
 was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a
 litre of premium fuel. hee hee.


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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread E M
There was a time here, about 15 years ago, that that sign would have be
questioned, if it was in the French wine section. lol.

Ed
300E

On 4 August 2010 13:03, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the signs at liquor stores now that say 100% alcohol, no gas!

 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
  Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out.  last time
 i
  was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as
 a
  litre of premium fuel. hee hee.


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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread Van Knutson
We have minimum beer and wine pricing here.  I remember about 10 years or so
years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50
or so a bottle.  Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or
whatever it was.  It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov
that seems to if they set the min price high enough, no one will get drunk
and misbehave.  Another example of, how did we ever get by before the gov
came along told us what was best for us.  hee hee.

As for cigars, they are something I enjoy, along with the odd bowl of pipe
tobacco.  Usually a bowl or a cigar on the weekends.  I have a few Cohibas
in my humidor at the moment, but I have to admit, not my fave stick.  My
fave shape is Robusto.  Big enough ring to get enough complexity from the
filler, and a long enough smoke for me.  Pipe tobacco, I lean towards the
English blends, with Latakia.  Hard to find a good selection of proper
pipe tobaccos now.  I hear Dunhill is reintroducing several of theirs.

Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out.  last time i
was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a
litre of premium fuel. hee hee.

Plan another trip up, we have several really good tobacconists with great
selections of cigars.  :-)  Just remember to fill your tank before crossing
over, the gas prices here will shock you!!

Ed
300E


You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends.  The rationale is: its bad 
for you, and if you do it a lot it will kill you, but if you do it jst a 
bit, maybe you can get away with being naughty!  Either way, life without an 
occasional good cigar is a life not worth living, eh?
 
Yeah, that would be cool.  Where in CA do you live?  I live in the Milwaukee 
area, Racine to be exact.  As mentioned, my one trip to the Great White North 
was to Sarnia, ONT, just north of Detroit/Windsor.
 
There is some booze that I wouldn't mind hooking up with in Canada.  IIRC, we 
Americans get to declare one litre per adult per trip duty free.
 
I'm not sure what the deal w/cigars is.  Cubans going back are a no-no, but you 
simply unband them in-country and put another on them, like Dutch Masters   ; 
)  and it simply isnt' worth the customs agents time to debate it with you.
 
DBV, singing the smugglers blues information minister.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread LWB250
Nod to the north, Van.  I had a Sprecker with my lunch today.  Yum.

I hear that Harley is threatening to move production out of town.  That should 
be getting the locals worked up.

Dan who just got his monthly care package from Bernie's Fine Meats in Port 
Washington, WI today.



--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?
 To: mercedes okiebenz mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 4:04 PM
 You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends.  The
 rationale is: its bad for you, and if you do it a lot it
 will kill you, but if you do it jst a bit, maybe you
 can get away with being naughty!  Either way, life without
 an occasional good cigar is a life not worth living, eh?
  
 Yeah, that would be cool.  Where in CA do you live?  I
 live in the Milwaukee area, Racine to be exact.  As
 mentioned, my one trip to the Great White North was to
 Sarnia, ONT, just north of Detroit/Windsor.
  
 There is some booze that I wouldn't mind hooking up with in
 Canada.  IIRC, we Americans get to declare one litre per
 adult per trip duty free.
  
 I'm not sure what the deal w/cigars is.  Cubans going
 back are a no-no, but you simply unband them in-country and
 put another on them, like Dutch Masters   ; )  and it
 simply isnt' worth the customs agents time to debate it with
 you.
  
 DBV, singing the smugglers blues information minister.
 
 
       
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread E M
I'm in Ontario.  While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd
cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever.  As you say,
in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life.

I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not allowed to be
mailed within Canada.  Now sure if that applies to export too, or just
within certain provinces.  I was told once, that owning Cuban cigars isn't
illegal in the US, only buying or selling them.  I think anything
pre-embargo is ok, but that stuff is probably crazy expensive now.  A few
years back, I still have a couple of REAL Cuban Davidoff sticks in my
humidor.  Try finding those today!! hee hee

If you do buy cigars from Canada, that you are allowed to take back with
you, see if you can claim the tobacco tax when you get home, and get a
rebate from the Canadian gov.  I know with some of the taxes, friends have
claimed them upon arriving home, and received a cheque.  As the taxes are
intended for our domestic market, might be worth looking into.  The markup
on tobacco is very high here!  Now, that might not be such a good idea if
you're submitting a stub for Cuban cigars, and the refund is going to the
US. ;-)

What Canadian spirits are you interested in?

Ed
300E

On 4 August 2010 16:04, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We have minimum beer and wine pricing here.  I remember about 10 years or
 so
 years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50
 or so a bottle.  Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or
 whatever it was.  It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov
 that seems to if they set the min price high enough, no one will get drunk
 and misbehave.  Another example of, how did we ever get by before the gov
 came along told us what was best for us.  hee hee.

 As for cigars, they are something I enjoy, along with the odd bowl of pipe
 tobacco.  Usually a bowl or a cigar on the weekends.  I have a few Cohibas
 in my humidor at the moment, but I have to admit, not my fave stick.  My
 fave shape is Robusto.  Big enough ring to get enough complexity from the
 filler, and a long enough smoke for me.  Pipe tobacco, I lean towards the
 English blends, with Latakia.  Hard to find a good selection of proper
 pipe tobaccos now.  I hear Dunhill is reintroducing several of theirs.

 Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out.  last time i
 was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a
 litre of premium fuel. hee hee.

 Plan another trip up, we have several really good tobacconists with great
 selections of cigars.  :-)  Just remember to fill your tank before crossing
 over, the gas prices here will shock you!!

 Ed
 300E

 
 You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends.  The rationale is: its
 bad for you, and if you do it a lot it will kill you, but if you do it
 jst a bit, maybe you can get away with being naughty!  Either way, life
 without an occasional good cigar is a life not worth living, eh?

 Yeah, that would be cool.  Where in CA do you live?  I live in the
 Milwaukee area, Racine to be exact.  As mentioned, my one trip to the Great
 White North was to Sarnia, ONT, just north of Detroit/Windsor.

 There is some booze that I wouldn't mind hooking up with in Canada.  IIRC,
 we Americans get to declare one litre per adult per trip duty free.

 I'm not sure what the deal w/cigars is.  Cubans going back are a no-no, but
 you simply unband them in-country and put another on them, like Dutch
 Masters   ; )  and it simply isnt' worth the customs agents time to debate
 it with you.

 DBV, singing the smugglers blues information minister.



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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread Van Knutson
E M pokieba...@gmail.com




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Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


I mentioned the $1.04 per litre.  We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added
to most things, including gas.  To put it in perspective, when gas is now
$1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good
price!  And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the
W124 likes to drink.

Ed
300E, who curses the cost of gas during the drive to the beer store, only to
get smacked again!!  It's enough to drive someone to smoke, but of course,
after filling the tank, and getting a case of beer, there's no money left
for tobacco. hee hee

**
You unwittingly hit a sore spot.  On balance, Canadian beer--if you forced my 
choice--is better than American, especially considering we have 10X the 
resources.  The state controlled prices are more expensive but livable. 
However, what y'all got on us absolutely is your access to Cuban cigars.  My 
last excursion to get Cubans (in Sarnia, ONT) with brother DBT was years ago.  
We cherished every puff--even more so because they were contraband once we got 
them across the border.
When Cuba got off the Soviet Union's tit when the Russkies collapsed at the end 
of the cold war, they started cranking them out to make up for lost revenue and 
the quality went down.  That being said, tho, there is no mistaking a Cuban 
cigar.  I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the 
embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies.
 
DBV, Cohiba dreamin information minister


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
DBV wrote:
 I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a 
 waste of time and open trade with the Commies.


What do you mean?
The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread E M
We have minimum beer and wine pricing here.  I remember about 10 years or so
years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50
or so a bottle.  Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or
whatever it was.  It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov
that seems to if they set the min price high enough, no one will get drunk
and misbehave.  Another example of, how did we ever get by before the gov
came along told us what was best for us.  hee hee.

As for cigars, they are something I enjoy, along with the odd bowl of pipe
tobacco.  Usually a bowl or a cigar on the weekends.  I have a few Cohibas
in my humidor at the moment, but I have to admit, not my fave stick.  My
fave shape is Robusto.  Big enough ring to get enough complexity from the
filler, and a long enough smoke for me.  Pipe tobacco, I lean towards the
English blends, with Latakia.  Hard to find a good selection of proper
pipe tobaccos now.  I hear Dunhill is reintroducing several of theirs.

Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out.  last time i
was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a
litre of premium fuel. hee hee.

Plan another trip up, we have several really good tobacconists with great
selections of cigars.  :-)  Just remember to fill your tank before crossing
over, the gas prices here will shock you!!

Ed
300E

On 3 August 2010 17:14, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote:

 E M pokieba...@gmail.com




 To:
 Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


 I mentioned the $1.04 per litre.  We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax
 added
 to most things, including gas.  To put it in perspective, when gas is now
 $1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good
 price!  And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the
 W124 likes to drink.

 Ed
 300E, who curses the cost of gas during the drive to the beer store, only
 to
 get smacked again!!  It's enough to drive someone to smoke, but of course,
 after filling the tank, and getting a case of beer, there's no money left
 for tobacco. hee hee

 **
 You unwittingly hit a sore spot.  On balance, Canadian beer--if you forced
 my choice--is better than American, especially considering we have 10X the
 resources.  The state controlled prices are more expensive but livable.
 However, what y'all got on us absolutely is your access to Cuban cigars.
 My last excursion to get Cubans (in Sarnia, ONT) with brother DBT was years
 ago.  We cherished every puff--even more so because they were contraband
 once we got them across the border.
 When Cuba got off the Soviet Union's tit when the Russkies collapsed at the
 end of the cold war, they started cranking them out to make up for lost
 revenue and the quality went down.  That being said, tho, there is no
 mistaking a Cuban cigar.  I dream of the day someone in the US has the
 stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the
 Commies.

 DBV, Cohiba dreamin information minister



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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread Van Knutson
DBV wrote:
 I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a 
 waste of time and open trade with the Commies.


What do you mean?
The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no?
mao

***
I'll be impressed with the ChiComs when their cigars are as good as Cubans. 
 
So far they haven't demonstrated they can keep mercury out of childrens toys, 
tooth paste or dog food.  Cigars might be a bit of a tall order for them.
 
DBV, quicksilver information minister


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Tim C
In some states it is different.  In NC, you don't have to label until
you cross 15%, and maybe not even then.  Found this helpful list,
which may or may not be accurate but at least has been updated in the
past year:
http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html

There is a station that advertises No Ethanol on I-85, but I don't
get up that way often.  And as long as they don't start cutting diesel
I probably won't, I don't like the Ford that much... :)

-Tim


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Not sure about gas where you buy it, but here, most premium is all gas,
 where the lower grades are cut with ethynol (sp).  It doesn't have the same
 bang for the buck per gallon, so when you factor all things, in, I'm not
 sure how much cheaper running regular really is.  I personally just follow
 the manual.  Run premium where it says to, and regular in the cars that were
 made for it.

 ***

 I dunno, but in the Peoples' Republic of Wisconsin, the 10% Ethanol sign 
 just appears smack in the middle of the pump, with no indication that it does 
 not apply to higher grades.  I am sure we get booze in our gas no matter what 
 grade.

 DBV, could be wrong, was wrong before but still good looking information 
 minister





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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and
regular is cut with up to 10%.

Ed
300E

On 2 August 2010 08:30, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 In some states it is different.  In NC, you don't have to label until
 you cross 15%, and maybe not even then.  Found this helpful list,
 which may or may not be accurate but at least has been updated in the
 past year:
 http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html

 There is a station that advertises No Ethanol on I-85, but I don't
 get up that way often.  And as long as they don't start cutting diesel
 I probably won't, I don't like the Ford that much... :)

 -Tim


 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Not sure about gas where you buy it, but here, most premium is all gas,
  where the lower grades are cut with ethynol (sp).  It doesn't have the
 same
  bang for the buck per gallon, so when you factor all things, in, I'm not
  sure how much cheaper running regular really is.  I personally just
 follow
  the manual.  Run premium where it says to, and regular in the cars that
 were
  made for it.
 
  ***
 
  I dunno, but in the Peoples' Republic of Wisconsin, the 10% Ethanol
 sign just appears smack in the middle of the pump, with no indication that
 it does not apply to higher grades.  I am sure we get booze in our gas no
 matter what grade.
 
  DBV, could be wrong, was wrong before but still good looking information
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Mitch Haley

E M wrote:

In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and
regular is cut with up to 10%.


Usually the station has two gas tanks, and mixes the midgrade at the pump, so 
that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is many states, like Michigan, 
Indiana, and Ohio, not requiring the pump to be labeled for alcohol content.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the
cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre.  Raw oil, processing,
various TAXES, and profits.

For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of
gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!!

Ed
300E

On 2 August 2010 10:12, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 E M wrote:

 In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%,
 and
 regular is cut with up to 10%.


 Usually the station has two gas tanks, and mixes the midgrade at the pump,
 so that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is many states, like Michigan,
 Indiana, and Ohio, not requiring the pump to be labeled for alcohol content.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Van Knutson
Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the
cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre.  Raw oil, processing,
various TAXES, and profits.

For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of
gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!!

Ed
300E

**
Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents.  It does not appear to discriminate 
between gas and diesel.
Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin:
http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx
 
Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal.
For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter.
 
It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas.  Wisconsin 
charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient 
diesel?  With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of 
fouling the air any more than gas.
 
DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
I'll pay attention at next gas up, and post how they break it down here.
Regular today, is $1.04 per litre, and diesel a bit less.  Up until a few
months ago, diesel was equal, or a bit more than regular.

Ed
300E, fed the good stuff. ;-)

On 2 August 2010 12:17, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


 They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the
 cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre.  Raw oil, processing,
 various TAXES, and profits.

 For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of
 gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!!

 Ed
 300E

 **
 Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents.  It does not appear to
 discriminate between gas and diesel.
 Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin:
 http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx

 Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal.
 For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter.

 It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas.
 Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy
 efficient diesel?  With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer
 accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas.

 DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister



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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Dieselhead
This explains why I am taking the Dogde van to the peoples democratic 
republic of WI tomorrow.  By the time you get to north WI, both gas 
and Diesel are $0.30/gal higher than the rest of the country.  It is 
cheaper to run the van than the SDL in those conditions.  $.57 a 
gallon is a ridiculous fuel tax.


I have the van tweaked to where it is almost as good for long trips as the SDL.

Once again I mourn the 2007 Grand Caravan which was promised to have 
an MB Diesel ala Der Sprinter.





**
Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents.  It does not appear to 
discriminate between gas and diesel.

Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin:
http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx

Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal.
For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter.

It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas. 
Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for 
using energy efficient diesel?  With new low sulfur formulation, the 
feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas.


DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister



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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
Hee hee, .57 a gallon.  Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in
Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon.  We're not Europe, but that's not
stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!!

Ed
300E

On 2 August 2010 13:16, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 This explains why I am taking the Dogde van to the peoples democratic
 republic of WI tomorrow.  By the time you get to north WI, both gas and
 Diesel are $0.30/gal higher than the rest of the country.  It is cheaper to
 run the van than the SDL in those conditions.  $.57 a gallon is a ridiculous
 fuel tax.

 I have the van tweaked to where it is almost as good for long trips as the
 SDL.

 Once again I mourn the 2007 Grand Caravan which was promised to have an MB
 Diesel ala Der Sprinter.




 **
 Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents.  It does not appear to
 discriminate between gas and diesel.
 Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin:
 http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx

 Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal.
 For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter.

 It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas.
 Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy
 efficient diesel?  With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer
 accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas.

 DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister


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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Mitch Haley

Van Knutson wrote:

Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents.  It does not appear to discriminate 
between gas and diesel.
Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin:
http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx


Federal Excise tax on diesel is 24.4 cents, but I think you can get 6 cents off 
for heavy duty on road trucks. Off road business use can get it back on the 
income tax return.


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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

they tax more for diesel in OK as well.

Van Knutson wrote:

Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the
cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre.  Raw oil, processing,
various TAXES, and profits.

For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of
gas, read up on what the governments take of that same gallon is!!

Ed
300E

**
Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents.  It does not appear to discriminate 
between gas and diesel.
Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin:
http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx
 
Wis example: 18.4 (Fed) + 51.3 (WI) = $ 0.697 / gal.

For you fureners, that comes out to $0.18 USD per liter.
 
It is also notable that some states tax MORE for diesel than gas.  Wisconsin charges 6 cents more (57.3)... This is our thanks for using energy efficient diesel?  With new low sulfur formulation, the feds can no longer accuse us of fouling the air any more than gas.
 
DBV, we aint gonna take is information minister



  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Van Knutson
E M pokieba...@gmail.com




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Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


Hee hee, .57 a gallon.  Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in
Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon.  We're not Europe, but that's not
stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!!

Ed
300E
 

 
You or someone like you mentioned gas was $1.04 / litre by you. For sake of 
argument lets say CanaBucks and AmeriBucks are a wash.   Then, if you do the 
math (3,78:1) that comes out to $3.93 / gallon.   Gas prices in the US briefly 
touched $4/gal two summers ago, and we damn near hada second revolution over 
it.  Geez.  Soft life here, I guess.
 
DBV, taxman information minister



  
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
I mentioned the $1.04 per litre.  We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added
to most things, including gas.  To put it in perspective, when gas is now
$1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good
price!  And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the
W124 likes to drink.

Ed
300E, who curses the cost of gas during the drive to the beer store, only to
get smacked again!!  It's enough to drive someone to smoke, but of course,
after filling the tank, and getting a case of beer, there's no money left
for tobacco. hee hee

On 2 August 2010 22:47, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote:

 E M pokieba...@gmail.com




 To:
 Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


 Hee hee, .57 a gallon.  Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in
 Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon.  We're not Europe, but that's not
 stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!!

 Ed
 300E

 

 You or someone like you mentioned gas was $1.04 / litre by you. For sake of
 argument lets say CanaBucks and AmeriBucks are a wash.   Then, if you do the
 math (3,78:1) that comes out to $3.93 / gallon.   Gas prices in the US
 briefly touched $4/gal two summers ago, and we damn near hada second
 revolution over it.  Geez.  Soft life here, I guess.

 DBV, taxman information minister




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