Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
If you only want to test up/down, then the plug is sufficient. If you want radio reception too, then you will need to screw the coax cable connector into the mast base... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 22:42, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Andrew, An antenna from a 123 sedan WILL fit as long as the main body of the antenna motor is the same as the one from the sedan then it will work in the TD. You will need to exchange the pieces at the top where it meets the body, both the inside and the outside. If for some reason you can't get the inside pieces at the top off (some will just slide right off) then you can exchange the whole mast body holder on the top of the antenna motor box. It's just held in with one small screw which you remove and then pull the tube out of the box after taking the mast out of the tube. Make sure you get the screw back into the hole in the mast holder tube when you push the tube back into the box. From your description of the problem I think you may have a problem with the clutch on the retraction/extension wheel. Just take the whole thing out and take the cover off the motor box and plug the power back in and you will see what moves and what doesn't. There is a wheel in there with a clutch in the center which connects the motor to the wheel and arms on the wheel that click over a counter on a switch system to shut the motor off after a set number of rotations of the wheel. If the clutch slips too much the nut will turn with the gears and shaft but the wheel will not turn so the antenna and the counter on the switch is not moved and the motor keeps running. Oh, you will need to get the antenna into the full down position in order to get the unit out of the car. If you are good enough at contortions you may even be able to do the whole thing in place but for me it was easier to take it out. When you get the cover off the motor box you will see the wheel with a big nut in the center and a tab bent up to keep the nut from moving. Bend the tab down and tighten the nut 2-3 flats, NOT TURNS, and bend the tab back up. Connect the electrical plug and test to see if the nut is tight enough for the wheel to move right. If not and the antenna still sticks and doesn't move without a little help then go through the whole process again to tighten the nut an extra flat and test again. You don't have to put the cover back or the whole thing into place in the car just hold it and have someone operate the key. Leave the antenna switch in the full up position and the radio on. Do not tighten the nut more then 1 flat at a time after the first adjustment or you may get it too tight and burn out the motor if for some reason the antenna gets hard to move later. While you are in there make sure that the pinch wheel at the bottom left of the wheel is moving right and maybe give it just a drop of oil at the pivot and on the center of the pinch wheel. Just went through this whole thing a couple of months back after replacing the antenna mast on my 83 300TD. Now if I can find a new suspension pump in the junk yard I will be in hog heaven. Manfred Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:39:29 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Yeah, I sort of figured that out maybe 10 seconds after hitting the send button. It's nice to be able to at least attempt to fix this myself. One of my (in-car) 300TD antennas is making a noise when the mast approaches its maximum extent, but not while lowering when (or after) shutting down. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:25 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If you only want to test up/down, then the plug is sufficient. If you want radio reception too, then you will need to screw the coax cable connector into the mast base... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2010, at 22:42, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Andrew, An antenna from a 123 sedan WILL fit as long as the main body of the antenna motor is the same as the one from the sedan then it will work in the TD. You will need to exchange the pieces at the top where it meets the body, both the inside and the outside. If for some reason you can't get the inside pieces at the top off (some will just slide right off) then you can exchange the whole mast body holder on the top of the antenna motor box. It's just held in with one small screw which you remove and then pull the tube out of the box after taking the mast out of the tube. Make sure you get the screw back into the hole in the mast holder tube when you push the tube back into the box. From your description of the problem I think you may have a problem with the clutch on the retraction/extension wheel. Just take the whole thing out and take the cover off the motor box and plug the power back in and you will see what moves and what doesn't. There is a wheel in there with a clutch in the center which connects the motor to the wheel and arms on the wheel that click over a counter on a switch system to shut the motor off after a set number of rotations of the wheel. If the clutch slips too much the nut will turn with the gears and shaft but the wheel will not turn so the antenna and the counter on the switch is not moved and the motor keeps running. Oh, you will need to get the antenna into the full down position in order to get the unit out of the car. If you are good enough at contortions you may even be able to do the whole thing in place but for me it was easier to take it out. When you get the cover off the motor box you will see the wheel with a big nut in the center and a tab bent up to keep the nut from moving. Bend the tab down and tighten the nut 2-3 flats, NOT TURNS, and bend the tab back up. Connect the electrical plug and test to see if the nut is tight enough for the wheel to move right. If not and the antenna still sticks and doesn't move without a little help then go through the whole process again to tighten the nut an extra flat and test again. You don't have to put the cover back or the whole thing into place in the car just hold it and have someone operate the key. Leave the antenna switch in the full up position and the radio on. Do not tighten the nut more then 1 flat at a time after the first adjustment or you may get it too tight and burn out the motor if for some reason the antenna gets hard to move later. While you are in there make sure that the pinch wheel at the bottom left of the wheel is moving right and maybe give it just a drop of oil at the pivot and on the center of the pinch wheel. Just went through this whole thing a couple of months back after replacing the antenna mast on my 83 300TD. Now if I can find a new suspension pump in the junk yard I will be in hog heaven. Manfred Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:39:29 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
What John said. Manfred Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:42:39 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Andrew, An antenna from a 123 sedan WILL fit as long as the main body of the antenna motor is the same as the one from the sedan then it will work in the TD. You will need to exchange the pieces at the top where it meets the body, both the inside and the outside. If for some reason you can't get the inside pieces at the top off (some will just slide right off) then you can exchange the whole mast body holder on the top of the antenna motor box. It's just held in with one small screw which you remove and then pull the tube out of the box after taking the mast out of the tube. Make sure you get the screw back into the hole in the mast holder tube when you push the tube back into the box. From your description of the problem I think you may have a problem with the clutch on the retraction/extension wheel. Just take the whole thing out and take the cover off the motor box and plug the power back in and you will see what moves and what doesn't. There is a wheel in there with a clutch in the center which connects the motor to the wheel and arms on the wheel that click over a counter on a switch system to shut the motor off after a set number of rotations of the wheel. If the clutch slips too much the nut will turn with the gears and shaft but the wheel will not turn so the antenna and the counter on the switch is not moved and the motor keeps running. Oh, you will need to get the antenna into the full down position in order to get the unit out of the car. If you are good enough at contortions you may even be able to do the whole thing in place but for me it was easier to take it out. When you get the cover off the motor box you will see the wheel with a big nut in the center and a tab bent up to keep the nut from moving. Bend the tab down and tighten the nut 2-3 flats, NOT TURNS, and bend the tab back up. Connect the electrical plug and test to see if the nut is tight enough for the wheel to move right. If not and the antenna still sticks and doesn't move without a little help then go through the whole process again to tighten the nut an extra flat and test again. You don't have to put the cover back or the whole thing into place in the car just hold it and have someone operate the key. Leave the antenna switch in the full up position and the radio on. Do not tighten the nut more then 1 flat at a time after the first adjustment or you may get it too tight and burn out the motor if for some reason the antenna gets hard to move later. While you are in there make sure that the pinch wheel at the bottom left of the wheel is moving right and maybe give it just a drop of oil at the pivot and on the center of the pinch wheel. Just went through this whole thing a couple of months back after replacing the antenna mast on my 83 300TD. Now if I can find a new suspension pump in the junk yard I will be in hog heaven. Manfred Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:39:29 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Thanks for the seminar. Fortunately for me, the antenna is a spare I got for free so I can do as you suggest. Do I need to just plug it in, or should I also screw in the cable from the car's wiring harness that attaches to the base of the the mast?? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Andrew, An antenna from a 123 sedan WILL fit as long as the main body of the antenna motor is the same as the one from the sedan then it will work in the TD. You will need to exchange the pieces at the top where it meets the body, both the inside and the outside. If for some reason you can't get the inside pieces at the top off (some will just slide right off) then you can exchange the whole mast body holder on the top of the antenna motor box. It's just held in with one small screw which you remove and then pull the tube out of the box after taking the mast out of the tube. Make sure you get the screw back into the hole in the mast holder tube when you push the tube back into the box. From your description of the problem I think you may have a problem with the clutch on the retraction/extension wheel. Just take the whole thing out and take the cover off the motor box and plug the power back in and you will see what moves and what doesn't. There is a wheel in there with a clutch in the center which connects the motor to the wheel and arms on the wheel that click over a counter on a switch system to shut the motor off after a set number of rotations of the wheel. If the clutch slips too much the nut will turn with the gears and shaft but the wheel will not turn so the antenna and the counter on the switch is not moved and the motor keeps running. Oh, you will need to get the antenna into the full down position in order to get the unit out of the car. If you are good enough at contortions you may even be able to do the whole thing in place but for me it was easier to take it out. When you get the cover off the motor box you will see the wheel with a big nut in the center and a tab bent up to keep the nut from moving. Bend the tab down and tighten the nut 2-3 flats, NOT TURNS, and bend the tab back up. Connect the electrical plug and test to see if the nut is tight enough for the wheel to move right. If not and the antenna still sticks and doesn't move without a little help then go through the whole process again to tighten the nut an extra flat and test again. You don't have to put the cover back or the whole thing into place in the car just hold it and have someone operate the key. Leave the antenna switch in the full up position and the radio on. Do not tighten the nut more then 1 flat at a time after the first adjustment or you may get it too tight and burn out the motor if for some reason the antenna gets hard to move later. While you are in there make sure that the pinch wheel at the bottom left of the wheel is moving right and maybe give it just a drop of oil at the pivot and on the center of the pinch wheel. Just went through this whole thing a couple of months back after replacing the antenna mast on my 83 300TD. Now if I can find a new suspension pump in the junk yard I will be in hog heaven. Manfred Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:39:29 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna On another aspect, what is probably happening is that the plastic thingie teeth are worn out and the clutch thingie that grabs the plastic thingie can't get a good grip. So, first thing is to get a new plastic thingie and mast, and replace that bit. Then take the antenna housing apart and clean and regrease everything, and if the grabber clutch thingie is not grabbing, fix that part with whatever adjustment is necessary. If you open it up it is pretty obvious how it works, and cleaning and regreasing is easy but somewhat messy. You can get the motor part and gears apart too to clean and grease all that, it takes a bit of fiddling. If I recall, putting it back together takes 3 hands, but is doable with 2 and something else to press against. DO NOT make me have to come up there and show you how to do it! --R (see one, do one, teach one) On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna On another aspect, what is probably happening is that the plastic thingie teeth are worn out and the clutch thingie that grabs the plastic thingie can't get a good grip. So, first thing is to get a new plastic thingie and mast, and replace that bit. Then take the antenna housing apart and clean and regrease everything, and if the grabber clutch thingie is not grabbing, fix that part with whatever adjustment is necessary. If you open it up it is pretty obvious how it works, and cleaning and regreasing is easy but somewhat messy. You can get the motor part and gears apart too to clean and grease all that, it takes a bit of fiddling. If I recall, putting it back together takes 3 hands, but is doable with 2 and something else to press against. DO NOT make me have to come up there and show you how to do it! --R (see one, do one, teach one) On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna On another aspect, what is probably happening is that the plastic thingie teeth are worn out and the clutch thingie that grabs the plastic thingie can't get a good grip. So, first thing is to get a new plastic thingie and mast, and replace that bit. Then take the antenna housing apart and clean and regrease everything, and if the grabber clutch thingie is not grabbing, fix that part with whatever adjustment is necessary. If you open it up it is pretty obvious how it works, and cleaning and regreasing is easy but somewhat messy. You can get the motor part and gears apart too to clean and grease all that, it takes a bit of fiddling. If I recall, putting it back together takes 3 hands, but is doable with 2 and something else to press against. DO NOT make me have to come up there and show you how to do it! --R (see one, do one, teach one) On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
You might catch something! --R (with bated breath) On 4/28/2010 1:22 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna On another aspect, what is probably happening is that the plastic thingie teeth are worn out and the clutch thingie that grabs the plastic thingie can't get a good grip. So, first thing is to get a new plastic thingie and mast, and replace that bit. Then take the antenna housing apart and clean and regrease everything, and if the grabber clutch thingie is not grabbing, fix that part with whatever adjustment is necessary. If you open it up it is pretty obvious how it works, and cleaning and regreasing is easy but somewhat messy. You can get the motor part and gears apart too to clean and grease all that, it takes a bit of fiddling. If I recall, putting it back together takes 3 hands, but is doable with 2 and something else to press against. DO NOT make me have to come up there and show you how to do it! --R (see one, do one, teach one) On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
What have you been using for breath bait? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 13:22, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A broken mast from a nonfunctional Hirshmann antenna?? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What have you been using for breath bait? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 13:22, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmm maybe that works in your neck of the woods, but sparkly and shiny trinkets, especially in velvet lined boxes are usually used when you're trying to take someones breath away... (although I understand that you can also use a pair of strong hands and strong forearms...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 14:43, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: A broken mast from a nonfunctional Hirshmann antenna?? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What have you been using for breath bait? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 13:22, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK, how about a set of 1920s era Crafstman tools? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Hmm maybe that works in your neck of the woods, but sparkly and shiny trinkets, especially in velvet lined boxes are usually used when you're trying to take someones breath away... (although I understand that you can also use a pair of strong hands and strong forearms...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 14:43, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: A broken mast from a nonfunctional Hirshmann antenna?? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What have you been using for breath bait? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 13:22, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
I suppose that they might have that effect on some! (how about posting some pics--vintage tool Pr0n!) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 15:14, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OK, how about a set of 1920s era Crafstman tools? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Hmm maybe that works in your neck of the woods, but sparkly and shiny trinkets, especially in velvet lined boxes are usually used when you're trying to take someones breath away... (although I understand that you can also use a pair of strong hands and strong forearms...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 14:43, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: A broken mast from a nonfunctional Hirshmann antenna?? On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What have you been using for breath bait? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2010, at 13:22, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs We'll be waiting with baited breath... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna This is a spare antenna, so I can work on it loose. The 123 wagon antenna is unique, so any junkyard excursion must bear this in mind (a Hirschmann from a 300D sedan will NOT fit). So if I understand this correctly, because the antenna is perpetually in the process of trying to retract the mast, it continues to run when plugged in even with the ignition OFF. If this is the case then there may be a mechanical rather than electrical glitch, and there is hope that I can repair it myself. Will let you all know. Andrew 2 300TDs On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Andrew, don't forget to also order a new rubber/plastic grommet for your fender mount for the antenna, and try loosening the mounting hardware now to make sure it will loosen otherwise you may need new hardware as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
Sounds like a great weekend project for you. If you fix it and I will send you a box of my backyard organic heirloom tomatoes in a couple months. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Or just take it apart and clean it up a bit. I have torn apart 3 or 4 and they all seem to be different, go figure. --R On 4/26/2010 10:41 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is there anyone out there who repairs Hirschmann power antennas? I have a spare from a 300TD that runs continuously (motor makes a growling noise - antenna doesn't move). When I tested it it, it refused to stop growling even with the key and radio both off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: Sounds like a great weekend project for you. If you fix it and I will send you a box of my backyard organic heirloom tomatoes in a couple months. Hey Andrew, what are some of your favorites? Last year I bought some Golden Girls that did quite well for me. They bore early and long, beat the socks off the Early Girl that I bought for early tomatoes. My favorite large tomato is Black Krim, but I like Mortgage Lifters too. Anything else I should be trying this year? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704448304575195960955885080.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704448304575196213895625230.html http://earthtainer.tomatofest.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] First aid for a sick Hirschmann antenna
I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R On 4/27/2010 10:03 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Sounds like a great weekend project for you. If you fix it and I will send you a box of my backyard organic heirloom tomatoes in a couple months. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Or just take it apart and clean it up a bit. I have torn apart 3 or 4 and they all seem to be different, go figure. --R On 4/26/2010 10:41 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is there anyone out there who repairs Hirschmann power antennas? I have a spare from a 300TD that runs continuously (motor makes a growling noise - antenna doesn't move). When I tested it it, it refused to stop growling even with the key and radio both off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R On 4/27/2010 10:03 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Sounds like a great weekend project for you. If you fix it and I will send you a box of my backyard organic heirloom tomatoes in a couple months. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Or just take it apart and clean it up a bit. I have torn apart 3 or 4 and they all seem to be different, go figure. --R On 4/26/2010 10:41 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is there anyone out there who repairs Hirschmann power antennas? I have a spare from a 300TD that runs continuously (motor makes a growling noise - antenna doesn't move). When I tested it it, it refused to stop growling even with the key and radio both off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am also growing Black Krim this year. Tigerella is great, so is green zebra. My personal favorites have to include yellow brandywine, pineapple, sungold cherry, black cherry, taxi, plus too many others to count. I also am a huge fan of the dragon langerie - a prolific and exotic looking yellow and purple mottled huge bush bean. ALS On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Sounds like a great weekend project for you. If you fix it and I will send you a box of my backyard organic heirloom tomatoes in a couple months. Hey Andrew, what are some of your favorites? Last year I bought some Golden Girls that did quite well for me. They bore early and long, beat the socks off the Early Girl that I bought for early tomatoes. My favorite large tomato is Black Krim, but I like Mortgage Lifters too. Anything else I should be trying this year? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704448304575195960955885080.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704448304575196213895625230.html http://earthtainer.tomatofest.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, look above -- another authority on the subject says that it will keep running until it does its thing or times out, which I think is what an astute observer could infer from my words of wisdom. In any case, I was thinking about this as I was going to a County Council meeting tonight, and decided I would try to fix the offending item if you sent it to me, and would forego the tomate con merde del gato and just do it out of the expansive goodness of my heart as I can get all kinds of tomate across the road from Sidi. You will, however, have to order the new mast and plastic thingie, I think I used the one I bought from some lister some years ago in an attempt to fix the one I have. If you tell me what year it is (among the various versions of it) I could go to the local junkyard and attempt to find one from one of the hulks there, though Junior seems to think all his junk is gold plated and worth a lot. --R On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On another aspect, what is probably happening is that the plastic thingie teeth are worn out and the clutch thingie that grabs the plastic thingie can't get a good grip. So, first thing is to get a new plastic thingie and mast, and replace that bit. Then take the antenna housing apart and clean and regrease everything, and if the grabber clutch thingie is not grabbing, fix that part with whatever adjustment is necessary. If you open it up it is pretty obvious how it works, and cleaning and regreasing is easy but somewhat messy. You can get the motor part and gears apart too to clean and grease all that, it takes a bit of fiddling. If I recall, putting it back together takes 3 hands, but is doable with 2 and something else to press against. DO NOT make me have to come up there and show you how to do it! --R (see one, do one, teach one) On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tomato con merde del gato? I thought it was a bad idea to use carnivore leavings as fertilizer... If not, I can add to the supply! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2010, at 22:08, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: No, look above -- another authority on the subject says that it will keep running until it does its thing or times out, which I think is what an astute observer could infer from my words of wisdom. In any case, I was thinking about this as I was going to a County Council meeting tonight, and decided I would try to fix the offending item if you sent it to me, and would forego the tomate con merde del gato and just do it out of the expansive goodness of my heart as I can get all kinds of tomate across the road from Sidi. You will, however, have to order the new mast and plastic thingie, I think I used the one I bought from some lister some years ago in an attempt to fix the one I have. If you tell me what year it is (among the various versions of it) I could go to the local junkyard and attempt to find one from one of the hulks there, though Junior seems to think all his junk is gold plated and worth a lot. --R On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You have inspired me to look into my ailing 85 sedan antenna this weekend -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2010, at 23:10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: On another aspect, what is probably happening is that the plastic thingie teeth are worn out and the clutch thingie that grabs the plastic thingie can't get a good grip. So, first thing is to get a new plastic thingie and mast, and replace that bit. Then take the antenna housing apart and clean and regrease everything, and if the grabber clutch thingie is not grabbing, fix that part with whatever adjustment is necessary. If you open it up it is pretty obvious how it works, and cleaning and regreasing is easy but somewhat messy. You can get the motor part and gears apart too to clean and grease all that, it takes a bit of fiddling. If I recall, putting it back together takes 3 hands, but is doable with 2 and something else to press against. DO NOT make me have to come up there and show you how to do it! --R (see one, do one, teach one) On 4/27/2010 9:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich is a great big tease. He sounds like he actually knows something but when the chips are down he takes way his toys and goes home. I, on the other hand, make no bones about my utter lack of expertise. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It's trying to do its thing and won't stop until it is successful. --R On 4/27/2010 5:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I can open it but what to do after that? What do I look for inside the case that would activate the motor even with the ignition off? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I would, but not tomatoes grown con merde del gato. All you need is a screwdriver to open it up. It's a bit fiddly but nothing difficult to do. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think the becker guys are back in the Hirschman business. Give them a call: http://www.beckerautosound.com/ Jaime On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is there anyone out there who repairs Hirschmann power antennas? I have a spare from a 300TD that runs continuously (motor makes a growling noise - antenna doesn't move). When I tested it it, it refused to stop growling even with the key and radio both off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or just take it apart and clean it up a bit. I have torn apart 3 or 4 and they all seem to be different, go figure. --R On 4/26/2010 10:41 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Is there anyone out there who repairs Hirschmann power antennas? I have a spare from a 300TD that runs continuously (motor makes a growling noise - antenna doesn't move). When I tested it it, it refused to stop growling even with the key and radio both off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
