Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[G Mann via Mercedes]

120 db hardly can compete with the heavy base "music" of the totally brain
dead and likely deaf drivers of the true traffic sinners.

Yep... train horns were ignored well.. it most often got a "hand
signal" which I believe in sign language translates to their IQ...

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 9:09 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:25:00 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Tried the train horn, it gets ignored...
>
> Really? The kind which run on 120 psi and make 150+ dB?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:25:00 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Tried the train horn, it gets ignored...

Really? The kind which run on 120 psi and make 150+ dB?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Redefines  the term Panzerwagon coined by the late Chuck Landenberger 
for his 116 300SD.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 18, 2018 at 6:15 PM

And if all else fails...

https://www.xdtalk.com/attachments/57f90d43e22255884f109e13726bcaf0-jpg.594401/

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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I can see getting pulled over in California with that car and the
defense is... "But Officer, it only has a 5 round magazine, so it's legal."
;)))  Would be fun to take that one to the skeet range for the day...



On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 7:58 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> good use of a volvo wagon
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On November 18, 2018 at 12:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Locomotive horn.  You’ve got room in the engine compartment of the
> truck, for sure.
> >
> > And if all else fails...
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

good use of a volvo wagon

clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 18, 2018 at 12:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Locomotive horn.  You’ve got room in the engine compartment of the truck, 
>> for sure.
> 
> And if all else fails...
> 
> https://www.xdtalk.com/attachments/57f90d43e22255884f109e13726bcaf0-jpg.594401/
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Kenwood makes a good single DIN unit with flip screen that has all manner of 
accouterment.  The SD has a 560DV (I think) that can do GPS, hooks to a back up 
camera, iPhone interface, Sat radio, DVD player as well as AM/FM.  Pretty sure 
the newer units have a bunch of that built in. 


clay monroe
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> On Nov 18, 2018, at 3:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I backed
> into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to wait
> for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep tried
> to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit my
> front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very aged,
> recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks like
> hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was pristine
> before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she was
> trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
> yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look at
> my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away, she
> can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was still
> there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of her
> car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
> hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
> re-paint.
> 
> I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN, to a
> radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.  I've
> also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I caulk
> all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially incapable
>> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to
>> drive.
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> redgh...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 18, 2018 at 12:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Locomotive horn.  You’ve got room in the engine compartment of the truck, for 
> sure.

And if all else fails...

https://www.xdtalk.com/attachments/57f90d43e22255884f109e13726bcaf0-jpg.594401/

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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Good suggestion for more noise Perhaps a submarine dive siren.
Tried the train horn, it gets ignored...

Cop lights and siren... with a cannon on the roof, like the Prius seems
about right... to keep traffic alert.

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Locomotive horn.  You’ve got room in the engine compartment of the truck,
> for sure.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 12:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > What I really want to install on ALL my vehicles is a siren with cop
> > lights... make that TWO sirens, so the noise can get through to the brain
> > dead idiots driving with their radio on "STUN" volume, while texting and
> > driving stupid.
> >
> > For years, I've been an advocate of a graduated driving license, strictly
> > enforced...
> > 1. First level: Far right lane only, no speeds above 45 MPH. Transit to
> > school, work place, grocery, only.
> > 2. Second level:Next lane only, no speed above 70, unlimited travel.
> > 3. Third level: Far left lane, No speed limit, No restrictions,
> >
> > All levels require strict physical skill testing and mental knowledge
> > testing for traffic law.
> > Level 2 would require physical health exam every 6 months which tests for
> > visual ability, physical response times and ability to safely operate the
> > vehicle.
> > Level 3 would require a physical exam every 90 days. and be required to
> > demonstrate respones times capable of operation of an "unlimited
> vehicle".
> >
> > All classes would require drug and alcohol testing and clean
> certification
> > to maintain driving license.
> >
> > To harsh?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well as a former fire engine driver I hate to tell you that lights & siren
on 20 ton engine don't always get noticed. We used air horn for hard cases.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 18, 2018 12:54 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> What I really want to install on ALL my vehicles is a siren with cop
> lights... make that TWO sirens, so the noise can get through to the brain
> dead idiots driving with their radio on "STUN" volume, while texting and
> driving stupid.
>
> For years, I've been an advocate of a graduated driving license, strictly
> enforced...
> 1. First level: Far right lane only, no speeds above 45 MPH. Transit to
> school, work place, grocery, only.
> 2. Second level:Next lane only, no speed above 70, unlimited travel.
> 3. Third level: Far left lane, No speed limit, No restrictions,
>
> All levels require strict physical skill testing and mental knowledge
> testing for traffic law.
> Level 2 would require physical health exam every 6 months which tests for
> visual ability, physical response times and ability to safely operate the
> vehicle.
> Level 3 would require a physical exam every 90 days. and be required to
> demonstrate respones times capable of operation of an "unlimited vehicle".
>
> All classes would require drug and alcohol testing and clean certification
> to maintain driving license.
>
> To harsh?
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 6:36 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Same here.  Just to make a point.
> >
> > The disassociated Mom drivers these days make me crazy.
> >
> > I was behind one yesterday on a two lane 45 mph road.  She had a phone in
> > her right hand and was using it while attempting to drive and deal with a
> > load of kids.  She never got above 35 mph in a two mile stretch, and was
> > crossing over the yellow and white lines constantly.
> >
> > I want to beat people like that on and about the head and face with their
> > phone in my closed fist.
> >
> > Grrr.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would have gotten a check out of her insurance company and forgot
> > about painting the bumper.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I
> > backed
> > >> into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to
> > wait
> > >> for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep
> > tried
> > >> to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit
> my
> > >> front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very
> > aged,
> > >> recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks
> like
> > >> hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was
> > pristine
> > >> before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she
> was
> > >> trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
> > >> yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look
> > at
> > >> my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away,
> she
> > >> can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was
> > still
> > >> there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of
> her
> > >> car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
> > >> hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
> > >> re-paint.
> > >>
> > >> I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN,
> > to a
> > >> radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.
> > I've
> > >> also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I
> caulk
> > >> all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
> > >> -
> > >> Max
> > >> Charleston SC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially
> > incapable
> > >>> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained
> to
> > >>> drive.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> clay monroe
> > >>> redgh...@comcast.net
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

But then it might cost more than $27 for a license.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 11:53 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What I really want to install on ALL my vehicles is a siren with cop
> lights... make that TWO sirens, so the noise can get through to the brain
> dead idiots driving with their radio on "STUN" volume, while texting and
> driving stupid.
> 
> For years, I've been an advocate of a graduated driving license, strictly
> enforced...
> 1. First level: Far right lane only, no speeds above 45 MPH. Transit to
> school, work place, grocery, only.
> 2. Second level:Next lane only, no speed above 70, unlimited travel.
> 3. Third level: Far left lane, No speed limit, No restrictions,
> 
> All levels require strict physical skill testing and mental knowledge
> testing for traffic law.
> Level 2 would require physical health exam every 6 months which tests for
> visual ability, physical response times and ability to safely operate the
> vehicle.
> Level 3 would require a physical exam every 90 days. and be required to
> demonstrate respones times capable of operation of an "unlimited vehicle".
> 
> All classes would require drug and alcohol testing and clean certification
> to maintain driving license.
> 
> To harsh?
> 
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 6:36 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Same here.  Just to make a point.
>> 
>> The disassociated Mom drivers these days make me crazy.
>> 
>> I was behind one yesterday on a two lane 45 mph road.  She had a phone in
>> her right hand and was using it while attempting to drive and deal with a
>> load of kids.  She never got above 35 mph in a two mile stretch, and was
>> crossing over the yellow and white lines constantly.
>> 
>> I want to beat people like that on and about the head and face with their
>> phone in my closed fist.
>> 
>> Grrr.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would have gotten a check out of her insurance company and forgot
>> about painting the bumper.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I
>> backed
 into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to
>> wait
 for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep
>> tried
 to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit my
 front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very
>> aged,
 recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks like
 hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was
>> pristine
 before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she was
 trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
 yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look
>> at
 my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away, she
 can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was
>> still
 there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of her
 car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
 hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
 re-paint.
 
 I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN,
>> to a
 radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.
>> I've
 also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I caulk
 all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially
>> incapable
> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to
> drive.
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Locomotive horn.  You’ve got room in the engine compartment of the truck, for 
sure.

-D


> On Nov 18, 2018, at 12:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What I really want to install on ALL my vehicles is a siren with cop
> lights... make that TWO sirens, so the noise can get through to the brain
> dead idiots driving with their radio on "STUN" volume, while texting and
> driving stupid.
> 
> For years, I've been an advocate of a graduated driving license, strictly
> enforced...
> 1. First level: Far right lane only, no speeds above 45 MPH. Transit to
> school, work place, grocery, only.
> 2. Second level:Next lane only, no speed above 70, unlimited travel.
> 3. Third level: Far left lane, No speed limit, No restrictions,
> 
> All levels require strict physical skill testing and mental knowledge
> testing for traffic law.
> Level 2 would require physical health exam every 6 months which tests for
> visual ability, physical response times and ability to safely operate the
> vehicle.
> Level 3 would require a physical exam every 90 days. and be required to
> demonstrate respones times capable of operation of an "unlimited vehicle".
> 
> All classes would require drug and alcohol testing and clean certification
> to maintain driving license.
> 
> To harsh?
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[G Mann via Mercedes]

What I really want to install on ALL my vehicles is a siren with cop
lights... make that TWO sirens, so the noise can get through to the brain
dead idiots driving with their radio on "STUN" volume, while texting and
driving stupid.

For years, I've been an advocate of a graduated driving license, strictly
enforced...
1. First level: Far right lane only, no speeds above 45 MPH. Transit to
school, work place, grocery, only.
2. Second level:Next lane only, no speed above 70, unlimited travel.
3. Third level: Far left lane, No speed limit, No restrictions,

All levels require strict physical skill testing and mental knowledge
testing for traffic law.
Level 2 would require physical health exam every 6 months which tests for
visual ability, physical response times and ability to safely operate the
vehicle.
Level 3 would require a physical exam every 90 days. and be required to
demonstrate respones times capable of operation of an "unlimited vehicle".

All classes would require drug and alcohol testing and clean certification
to maintain driving license.

To harsh?

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 6:36 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Same here.  Just to make a point.
>
> The disassociated Mom drivers these days make me crazy.
>
> I was behind one yesterday on a two lane 45 mph road.  She had a phone in
> her right hand and was using it while attempting to drive and deal with a
> load of kids.  She never got above 35 mph in a two mile stretch, and was
> crossing over the yellow and white lines constantly.
>
> I want to beat people like that on and about the head and face with their
> phone in my closed fist.
>
> Grrr.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would have gotten a check out of her insurance company and forgot
> about painting the bumper.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I
> backed
> >> into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to
> wait
> >> for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep
> tried
> >> to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit my
> >> front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very
> aged,
> >> recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks like
> >> hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was
> pristine
> >> before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she was
> >> trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
> >> yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look
> at
> >> my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away, she
> >> can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was
> still
> >> there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of her
> >> car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
> >> hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
> >> re-paint.
> >>
> >> I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN,
> to a
> >> radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.
> I've
> >> also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I caulk
> >> all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially
> incapable
> >>> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to
> >>> drive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> clay monroe
> >>> redgh...@comcast.net
> >>>
> >>>
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Same here.  Just to make a point.

The disassociated Mom drivers these days make me crazy.

I was behind one yesterday on a two lane 45 mph road.  She had a phone in her 
right hand and was using it while attempting to drive and deal with a load of 
kids.  She never got above 35 mph in a two mile stretch, and was crossing over 
the yellow and white lines constantly.

I want to beat people like that on and about the head and face with their phone 
in my closed fist.

Grrr.

-D


> On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would have gotten a check out of her insurance company and forgot about 
> painting the bumper.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I backed
>> into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to wait
>> for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep tried
>> to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit my
>> front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very aged,
>> recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks like
>> hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was pristine
>> before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she was
>> trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
>> yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look at
>> my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away, she
>> can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was still
>> there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of her
>> car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
>> hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
>> re-paint.
>> 
>> I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN, to a
>> radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.  I've
>> also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I caulk
>> all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially incapable
>>> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to
>>> drive.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> redgh...@comcast.net
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I would have gotten a check out of her insurance company and forgot about 
painting the bumper.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I backed
> into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to wait
> for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep tried
> to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit my
> front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very aged,
> recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks like
> hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was pristine
> before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she was
> trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
> yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look at
> my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away, she
> can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was still
> there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of her
> car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
> hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
> re-paint.
> 
> I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN, to a
> radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.  I've
> also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I caulk
> all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially incapable
>> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to
>> drive.
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> redgh...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think it's in the lack of driver training.  A month or so ago, I backed
into a parking spot at my daughter's school, and had a few minutes to wait
for her to come out.  Open spot next to me, lady in a very new Jeep tried
to back in next to me, with back-up camera.  On first attempt she hit my
front bumper with her bumper.  My bumper (White Whale) is grey, very aged,
recently missing a big chunk from the bottom edge, generally looks like
hell.  Her bumper: pristine, painted white.  Well, at least it was pristine
before she tried backing in.  She was yapping on the phone while she was
trying to back in.  After she finally was settled in her spot, still
yapping away, I got out of my car and walked to the front, took a look at
my bumper and the new white mark, looked at her still yapping away, she
can't meet my eyes.  I just shook my head and walked away.  She was still
there when I returned, I took the time to examine the rear bumper of her
car, nice blemish there on the corner.  If I'd wanted to deal with the
hassle, I probably could have made her insurance pay for a bumper
re-paint.

I'm planning to upgrade the radio in SWMBO's car, which is double-DIN, to a
radio with a built-in screen that will connect to a back-up camera.  I've
also thought about getting one for The White Whale.  Maybe after I caulk
all the seams in the roof and stop the rain from getting in.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially incapable
> of backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to
> drive.
>
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I find that the owners of cars that use camera are exponentially incapable of 
backing up.  IT could be more about them not having been trained to drive.


clay monroe
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> 
> I used to think that backup cameras were exclusively for bad drivers. I've 
> now seen the error of my ways, there are 2 occasions where they are extremely 
> useful:
> 1. Backing out into traffic when you have an obstructed view, like when a 
> large vehicle blocks you.2. Hooking to a trailer, no good for a 5th wheel or 
> goose neck obviously but those are easier to hook up to anyway.
> -Curt
> 
>On Saturday, November 17, 2018, 8:33:47 AM EST, Mitch Haley 
>  wrote:  
> 
> 
>> On November 17, 2018 at 8:14 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> In front, meaning away from the doors. Leave it to the truck driver to 
>> always back in...
> 
> I prefer to walk behind the car before I hop in and back out. 
> Besides that, if I'm driving stick (only the Saturn and the 2.3-16) I shut 
> the engine off 1/8 mile before my driveway and coast into the garage. 
> 
> Although newer cars with cameras that show the floor a couple feet behind the 
> car make his way more practical than ever. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

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Some of us old farts can't turn our necks as far as we used to, making the
backup camera really great! It's also very nice for lining up to a trailer.
I installed an aftermarket cheap one in the F150 (bought very few options
with it) and am very glad I did. I used to have to get out and lower the
tailgate to see where I was backing when unloading it - no more.

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I used to think that backup cameras were exclusively for bad drivers.
> I've now seen the error of my ways, there are 2 occasions where they are
> extremely useful:
> 1. Backing out into traffic when you have an obstructed view, like when a
> large vehicle blocks you.2. Hooking to a trailer, no good for a 5th wheel
> or goose neck obviously but those are easier to hook up to anyway.
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018, 8:33:47 AM EST, Mitch Haley <
> mi...@mitchellhaley.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On November 17, 2018 at 8:14 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > In front, meaning away from the doors. Leave it to the truck driver to
> always back in...
>
> I prefer to walk behind the car before I hop in and back out.
> Besides that, if I'm driving stick (only the Saturn and the 2.3-16) I shut
> the engine off 1/8 mile before my driveway and coast into the garage.
>
> Although newer cars with cameras that show the floor a couple feet behind
> the car make his way more practical than ever.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I used to think that backup cameras were exclusively for bad drivers. I've now 
seen the error of my ways, there are 2 occasions where they are extremely 
useful:
1. Backing out into traffic when you have an obstructed view, like when a large 
vehicle blocks you.2. Hooking to a trailer, no good for a 5th wheel or goose 
neck obviously but those are easier to hook up to anyway.
-Curt

On Saturday, November 17, 2018, 8:33:47 AM EST, Mitch Haley 
 wrote:  
 
 
> On November 17, 2018 at 8:14 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> In front, meaning away from the doors. Leave it to the truck driver to always 
> back in...

I prefer to walk behind the car before I hop in and back out. 
Besides that, if I'm driving stick (only the Saturn and the 2.3-16) I shut the 
engine off 1/8 mile before my driveway and coast into the garage. 

Although newer cars with cameras that show the floor a couple feet behind the 
car make his way more practical than ever. 

Mitch.
  
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> On November 17, 2018 at 8:14 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> In front, meaning away from the doors. Leave it to the truck driver to always 
> back in...

I prefer to walk behind the car before I hop in and back out. 
Besides that, if I'm driving stick (only the Saturn and the 2.3-16) I shut the 
engine off 1/8 mile before my driveway and coast into the garage. 

Although newer cars with cameras that show the floor a couple feet behind the 
car make his way more practical than ever. 

Mitch.

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In front, meaning away from the doors. Leave it to the truck driver to always 
back in...

Curt

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wrote:   > Mitch wrote:

> If the garage isn't full of non-car stuff, 3 cars in a 2 car
> garage or 5 in a 3 car can be done without hoists. The extra
> cars go perpendicular in front of the daily drivers.

In front?  How do you get the daily drivers out?  I would think
you mean behind.

Might work with "little" cars, but my GMC 3/4 ton chassis are too
long.  Or my garage is short.


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On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:29:14 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I.e. "on the front-side of the existing parked cars."

Which are usually driven straight into the garage so their back ends are
nearest the overhead door(s) and their front ends are deep in the garage.


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I.e. "on the front-side of the existing parked cars."

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> Mitch wrote:

> If the garage isn't full of non-car stuff, 3 cars in a 2 car
> garage or 5 in a 3 car can be done without hoists. The extra
> cars go perpendicular in front of the daily drivers.

In front?  How do you get the daily drivers out?  I would think
you mean behind.

Might work with "little" cars, but my GMC 3/4 ton chassis are too
long.  Or my garage is short.


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If the garage isn't full of non-car stuff, 3 cars in a 2 car garage or 5 in a 3 
car can be done without hoists. The extra cars go perpendicular in front of the 
daily drivers. 
Unfortunately, my '2 car garage' is only 20x22 and it's got a lot of non-car 
stuff in it, making it a one car garage. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

My house is not a custom home, but I do think I'm close to having the
vertical space.  A crawl-space under the house raises the garage ceiling
height nicely.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 1:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> A lot of issues with that remodel.
>
> Very few existing homes have the kind of space available in the garage
> ceiling area.  I’ve only owned one home with a garage ceiling that would
> have accommodated such an arrangement, and it was an outlier as a very
> expensive custom home.
>
> Why did this make me think of the retirees with the screen doors on the
> garages where they sit inside all day and watch the neighborhood go by?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson
> >
> > --R
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> >> On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> >>
> >>
> https://www.familyhandyman.com/garage/dream-garage-double-decker-car-storage/view-all/
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Re: [MBZ] Five Cars in a Three-Car Garage

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice, I need to do that in my 2-car garage.  I think I'd only be able to
fit convertibles (top down) in the upper storage, due to a support beam
that goes across the ceiling of the garage.

Those garage doors are exactly what I need.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> FYI.
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And yell at the kids to get off their damn lawn!

--FT


On 11/16/18 1:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

A lot of issues with that remodel.

Very few existing homes have the kind of space available in the garage ceiling 
area.  I’ve only owned one home with a garage ceiling that would have 
accommodated such an arrangement, and it was an outlier as a very expensive 
custom home.

Why did this make me think of the retirees with the screen doors on the garages 
where they sit inside all day and watch the neighborhood go by?

-D

  

On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

https://www.familyhandyman.com/garage/dream-garage-double-decker-car-storage/view-all/

FYI.


Craig

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A lot of issues with that remodel.

Very few existing homes have the kind of space available in the garage ceiling 
area.  I’ve only owned one home with a garage ceiling that would have 
accommodated such an arrangement, and it was an outlier as a very expensive 
custom home.

Why did this make me think of the retirees with the screen doors on the garages 
where they sit inside all day and watch the neighborhood go by?

-D

 
> On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
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>> https://www.familyhandyman.com/garage/dream-garage-double-decker-car-storage/view-all/
>> 
>> FYI.
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>> 
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Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson 

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> On Nov 16, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
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