Re: [MBZ] Glasses
#1 crank down the pressure relief valve. #2 Add bigger cyl if needed #3 watch where it flexes, and reinforce, before it bends. #4 straighten and reinforce bent parts Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes wrote on 9/10/19 12:17 PM: But I have already hauled some stuff. The hydraulic gate is good but only 1000 lbs That is it from tybee island Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
> > The hydraulic gate is good but only 1000 lbs > Calling Tim Taylor. Tim Taylor to the OR... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses WUZ:Top Tier Diesel
That's Fronkensteen, not Frankenstein. Anyway, I found a pretty good explanation of Abbe Value and its practical effects here. In short, if you're stronger than +4 or -6 dipopters, PC is going to look like shit when you move your eyes to look out the edge of your lens, but straight ahead is perfectly fine. https://www.2020mag.com/article/does-material-abbe-value-influence-your-patients-vision > On September 7, 2019 at 9:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > abbe normal? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses WUZ:Top Tier Diesel
abbe normal? -D > On Sep 7, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On September 7, 2019 at 9:14 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> I go to a great ophthalmologist. They have a store in house, but don't >> make you use it. he just prints out the Rx and I can get it filled >> anywhere. I've been buying the "industrial quality eye protection" >> with titanium frames from wally land. (Safety glasses, polycarbonate) > > Polycarb is strong, has a halfway decent refractive index, blocks UV, and is > cheap. > But it likes to warp a bit in the mold and the chromatic aberrations are huge > so it's not the right stuff if you value visual accuracy. The stronger the > prescription, the worse it gets with different colors focusing differently. > Good old CR-39 plastic and crown glass have better focus, (abbe value 58-59) > but their low refractive indexes make for thick and heavy lenses. > > Trivex has a better abbe value (43), but costs more and has a lower > refractive index. > 1.66 and 1.74 high index plastics have an abbe value of 32, scarcely better > than PC's 30. > > https://www.allentownoptical.com/abbe-value-interpretation/ > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses WUZ:Top Tier Diesel
> On September 7, 2019 at 9:14 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I go to a great ophthalmologist. They have a store in house, but don't > make you use it. he just prints out the Rx and I can get it filled > anywhere. I've been buying the "industrial quality eye protection" > with titanium frames from wally land. (Safety glasses, polycarbonate) Polycarb is strong, has a halfway decent refractive index, blocks UV, and is cheap. But it likes to warp a bit in the mold and the chromatic aberrations are huge so it's not the right stuff if you value visual accuracy. The stronger the prescription, the worse it gets with different colors focusing differently. Good old CR-39 plastic and crown glass have better focus, (abbe value 58-59) but their low refractive indexes make for thick and heavy lenses. Trivex has a better abbe value (43), but costs more and has a lower refractive index. 1.66 and 1.74 high index plastics have an abbe value of 32, scarcely better than PC's 30. https://www.allentownoptical.com/abbe-value-interpretation/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses WUZ:Top Tier Diesel
Mine is a couple of blocks away from my office downtown. A quick in and out for my annual exam, and I leave with my script. Only thing I don’t get is my PD, but Costco does that and provides it to me when I get glasses there. And it’s not like it’s something that will change… I had a neighbor who is an optometrist. She had a very active practice in a high end neighborhood nearby. Everyone we knew went to her. When you came out of the exam room, you got dumped into what I called the “showroom” where a couple of hotties would immediately try and sell you on designer frames with ten different coatings, etc, etc. I always excused myself using the reason that I had to get back to work and would return at a later time. I got my script, but no PD. One of my neighbor buddies’ wife went there and left with an $800 bill for a pair of glasses. He was livid. He swore revenge. The optometrist and her dirtbag husband (another story for another day) used to have neighborhood parties al the time, typically quite lavish affairs such as “casino nights”, for example. There would almost always be a large spread of food with a big pile of boiled shrimp being part of it. My neighbor buddy would go, pull up a chair to the serving table in front of the shrimp, and just plow through them. That was how he was getting his $800 dollars back. He did this every time they had a party to the point where it became a regular thing. And the optometrist never knew why - but everyone else did. -D > On Sep 7, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I go to a great ophthalmologist. They have a store in house, but don't make > you use it. he just prints out the Rx and I can get it filled anywhere. > I've been buying the "industrial quality eye protection" with titanium frames > from wally land. (Safety glasses, polycarbonate) > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 9/6/19 6:48 PM: >> That's kind of what I figured. You want to order glasses, they're probably >> going to want to file all the info under your member number. >> $150ish for 1.67 index digital lenses is a great price, but I just learned >> the market price is down around $300-500 these days. I still thought of them >> as $1000 lenses from when they came out about ten years ago. Wish I knew a >> good optician who doesn't want a big markup and has the equipment to measure >> my eyes for high def lenses. My old guy wasn't equipped for that, and he >> shut down the store suddenly instead of selling it. His prices were about >> half of RX Optical etc. Now the only opticians I can find want too much >> money for everything. >> My ophthalmologist doesn't dispense, so I get my insurance paid glasses from >> RX and buy extras from the Chinese internet houses. >> Mitch. >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] glasses
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html Big difference between an SL and an SEL. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] glasses
Yes, I know. I just read too fast and had a mental pic of an SL. My head was obviously on something else. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] glasses http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html Big difference between an SL and an SEL. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
At the risk of sounding like a smart-ass, have you guys tried contact lenses? I remove/replace mine religiously every six to twelve weeks (the clue to change is when things start looking like I am looking thru plastic wrap). And for those of our generation, there are bi-focal contact lenses that work great. A set of $30-a-box lenses lasts me a year, because I clean them rather than throwing them away. D. On 11/29/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: the real solution - buy frames from third-world countries (i got mine from india for $4) and have the most awesome lenses fit here. The price works out the same. My optician hates cheap frames. So much that he sells some good ones for $56 (the most that insurance usually pays for frames). He doesn't make money on those, but he doesn't have to try to adjust crap frames because he doesn't sell crap. I ended up paying $165 for titanium, I intend to keep them for about ten years. I almost went for a set of $56 frames with spring box hinges. My system is to go to a good opthamologist who doesn't sell hardware, and get the glasses from a good optician who isn't part of a chain. His prices were lower than D.O.C.'s 60% off sale prices, and the lenses are ground, not molded. I think I paid $291 total for polycarb lenses in titanium frames. Would have been $182 with the insurance frames. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Most men want to spend time in the garage. As for me, I'd much rather be in the kitchen -- cooking, not eating.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
LT Don typed: A set of $30-a-box lenses lasts me a year, because I clean them rather than throwing them away. Somehow that just seems so right. Bob Rentfro
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
I got in close (but not quite THAT close -- she was married to an airline pilot) with my eye doctor when I was stationed in DC. Turns out that the disposable contact lenses and the $200-a-pop / clean and reuse contact lenses come off of the same line. The only difference is the packaging. Perhaps it is because my first wife was from Maine, but I have that tight-wad New England sort of stuff now ingrained. I refuse to throw away a good contact lens unless it is ripped. Or so Doctor said, and I trust her. On 11/30/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don typed: A set of $30-a-box lenses lasts me a year, because I clean them rather than throwing them away. Somehow that just seems so right. Bob Rentfro ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Most men want to spend time in the garage. As for me, I'd much rather be in the kitchen -- cooking, not eating.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
LT Don wrote: At the risk of sounding like a smart-ass, have you guys tried contact lenses? I haven't. My dad has them, and they seem like so much trouble...they have to be cleaned every day, they get dust under them, they pop out and have to be searched for on the floor... I like the relatively low maintenance of glasses, especially since my job often takes me into dusty environments. Also, you never know when the extra eye protection will prove useful.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your dad must be wearing 1960s technology contact lenses. Modern contact lenses such as the Focus Night Day that I wear can be left in your eye entirely maintenance free for a month or longer, before you throw them away and replace it. Since it is a new lens from a sterile package there is no risk of dust or contamination. I have never had one pop out, even if I accidently rub my eye, or swim with them in (both of which are not recommended anyways). They are about as convenient as having naturally perfect vision. I wore glasses for many years before I tried them and was sick of the lenses getting scratched, dirty, fogging up, glare, frames getting bent, etc. I am a very active person, and contacts have significantly improved my quality of life, I think that everyone with vision problems should at least try them for a month or two before considering glasses. On Nov 30, 2006, at 9:58 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: I haven't. My dad has them, and they seem like so much trouble...they have to be cleaned every day, they get dust under them, they pop out and have to be searched for on the floor... I like the relatively low maintenance of glasses, especially since my job often takes me into dusty environments. Also, you never know when the extra eye protection will prove useful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFb8oxt178NxI/higRAtb3AJ92DAxnhttpKIxBhQeJdSEmrul4tACgmfju HSHGvdcFxcz+F+inUwmG6WM= =Q1jH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
i once heard it said that anyone who needed corrective lenses and wasn't wearing glasses was missing out on the chance of having a whole 'nother face in their wardrobe.8=) cheers! e at -0.5 diopters, i don't usually bother,... LT Don wrote: At the risk of sounding like a smart-ass, have you guys tried contact lenses? I remove/replace mine religiously every six to twelve weeks (the clue to change is when things start looking like I am looking thru plastic wrap). And for those of our generation, there are bi-focal contact lenses that work great. A set of $30-a-box lenses lasts me a year, because I clean them rather than throwing them away. D. On 11/29/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: the real solution - buy frames from third-world countries (i got mine from india for $4) and have the most awesome lenses fit here. The price works out the same. My optician hates cheap frames. So much that he sells some good ones for $56 (the most that insurance usually pays for frames). He doesn't make money on those, but he doesn't have to try to adjust crap frames because he doesn't sell crap. I ended up paying $165 for titanium, I intend to keep them for about ten years. I almost went for a set of $56 frames with spring box hinges. My system is to go to a good opthamologist who doesn't sell hardware, and get the glasses from a good optician who isn't part of a chain. His prices were lower than D.O.C.'s 60% off sale prices, and the lenses are ground, not molded. I think I paid $291 total for polycarb lenses in titanium frames. Would have been $182 with the insurance frames. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Most men want to spend time in the garage. As for me, I'd much rather be in the kitchen -- cooking, not eating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
My wife would kill ya for that. Brian LT wrote: A set of $30-a-box lenses lasts me a year, because I clean them rather than throwing them away. D.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
Sunil Hari wrote: the real solution - buy frames from third-world countries (i got mine from india for $4) and have the most awesome lenses fit here. The price works out the same. My optician hates cheap frames. So much that he sells some good ones for $56 (the most that insurance usually pays for frames). He doesn't make money on those, but he doesn't have to try to adjust crap frames because he doesn't sell crap. I ended up paying $165 for titanium, I intend to keep them for about ten years. I almost went for a set of $56 frames with spring box hinges. My system is to go to a good opthamologist who doesn't sell hardware, and get the glasses from a good optician who isn't part of a chain. His prices were lower than D.O.C.'s 60% off sale prices, and the lenses are ground, not molded. I think I paid $291 total for polycarb lenses in titanium frames. Would have been $182 with the insurance frames. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are having problems, the lab always makes them over at no further cost. I can't tell you many lenses have been done over for me. True. Unfortunately by the time I noticed the chromic aberration in the lenses I'd already moved out of the area. It isn't obvious except when looking at pure blue light sources. It may be an artifact of the anti-glare coating, which also seems to make the lenses extremely hard to clean.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
I understand we are talking apples and oranges here, but I have been extremely happy with the results from going to the local vision center at the WalMart in Fort Dodge IA -- for contacts. The doctor there is great -- he gets you as close as he can for the prescription, gives you a pair to try, and has you walk around (in the store or out of the store, he could care less) for a half hour and then report back with happy/unhappy. I've been unhappy a few times and he has adjusted up or down a power in one of the lenses and had me try it again -- the few times he didn't hit it dead on the first time, he did the second time. On 11/28/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. I think my mistake was going to a chain store to have them made. I've not really been happy with the results, but getting another pair made is a significant expense so I've been putting up with them. I think part of the problem is just that they used a lens material I've never had before, and it seems to produce lenses with a much smaller sweet spot where things are really clear than I'm used to. The anti-glare coating was also a big mistake. I won't be talked into that again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
In my case this is complicated a little by the fact that my glasses have a bit of a chromic aberration -- bright blue objects aren't focused to the same point as other colors, causing them to have an out-of-focus 'halo' around them. I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. I think my mistake was going to a chain store to have them made. I've not really been happy with the results, but getting another pair made is a significant expense so I've been putting up with them. I think part of the problem is just that they used a lens material I've never had before, and it seems to produce lenses with a much smaller sweet spot where things are really clear than I'm used to. The anti-glare coating was also a big mistake. I won't be talked into that again.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
the real solution - buy frames from third-world countries (i got mine from india for $4) and have the most awesome lenses fit here. The price works out the same. $200 for a frame? you've GOT to be kidding. On 11/28/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. I think my mistake was going to a chain store to have them made. I've not really been happy with the results, but getting another pair made is a significant expense so I've been putting up with them. I think part of the problem is just that they used a lens material I've never had before, and it seems to produce lenses with a much smaller sweet spot where things are really clear than I'm used to. The anti-glare coating was also a big mistake. I won't be talked into that again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
