Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
why would you think it has a bad head gasket? Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? What do you all envision in this scenario? Brian 83 240d _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
99% of the time a blown headgsket will evident itself by water in the oil and/or oil in the water. On 11/23/05, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question. The thing was smoking (could mostly see it in the headlights of cars following at night). It wasn't black-ish smoke. And it didn't seem blue-ish like burning oil, nor was there a burnt-oil smell, or any oil collected in the tailpipe. Remember, this thing is shrowded in mystery because the breakdwon occurred while I was not around and someone else put a bunch of miles on it - possibly someone was allowed to drive it who had little sense (girlfried, drinking buddy? - the truth is hard to come by someitmes). Or it could be that there was a problem with the engine when be bought it. The kid we got it from claimed his dad replaced the engine before his death. But with 120k on the clock, I don't see why. Maybe he put in a crap engine? Or did improper repairs? I don't have much faith in the previous owner. The other scenario would be its being run out of oil and driven dry of oil. The thing was using oil shockingly fast when I drove it around, but I have since been told that if the car sits for a long period (it sat for around a year), it often consumes oil for a while when it is first driven again. Also, I was told that if one fills the oil up to the full mark (which I did repeatedly), it will burn it down fast. A small bit of evidence in favor of the blown head gasket is the coolant level being significantlly low (it wasn't when I was using it). I know, inconclusive, but still evidence. So, Marshall/others, what would be the indicators of a blown head gasket? What would be the indicators of siezing due to lack of oil? Some have suggested a broken timing chain. Wouldn't this be a sudden seizing? This siezing wasn't sudden. Brian 83 240d From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:11:12 -0500 Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always replaced with the engine in the car. Usually/often the timing chain is replaced as well (unless it's relatively new). Why do you think the head gasket is blown??? A blown head gasket WON'T usually cause an engine to seize unless you allow it to run until the engine to overheat excessively - and if you do that, a LOT more than the head gasket will need to be replaced before the engine will run again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
Brian Chase wrote: Good question. The thing was smoking (could mostly see it in the headlights of cars following at night). It wasn't black-ish smoke. And it didn't seem blue-ish like burning oil, nor was there a burnt-oil smell, or any oil collected in the tailpipe. The smoke is normal Remember, this thing is shrowded in mystery because the breakdwon occurred while I was not around and someone else put a bunch of miles on it - possibly someone was allowed to drive it who had little sense (girlfried, drinking buddy? - the truth is hard to come by someitmes). Or it could be that there was a problem with the engine when be bought it. The kid we got it from claimed his dad replaced the engine before his death. But with 120k on the clock, I don't see why. Maybe he put in a crap engine? Or did improper repairs? I don't have much faith in the previous owner. The other scenario would be its being run out of oil and driven dry of oil. The thing was using oil shockingly fast when I drove it around, but I have since been told that if the car sits for a long period (it sat for around a year), it often consumes oil for a while when it is first driven again. Also, I was told that if one fills the oil up to the full mark (which I did repeatedly), it will burn it down fast. It was almost certain to have been run out of oil. These things will use/leak some oil and whoever was driving it without permission probably didnt check it. A small bit of evidence in favor of the blown head gasket is the coolant level being significantlly low (it wasn't when I was using it). I know, inconclusive, but still evidence. Thats not very good evidence. So, Marshall/others, what would be the indicators of a blown head gasket? What would be the indicators of siezing due to lack of oil? If the engine is really siezed it would only because by A: Ran out of oil and it locked up B: Threw a rod and got stuck C: Timing chain broke and it got stuck. You could pull the oil pan and tell real quick whats going on if it was run out of oil or if it threw a rod. Pull the valve cover to see if the timing chain is broke. My money is still on they ran it out of oil. Seen it many times. Some have suggested a broken timing chain. Wouldn't this be a sudden seizing? This siezing wasn't sudden. Brian 83 240d From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:11:12 -0500 Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always replaced with the engine in the car. Usually/often the timing chain is replaced as well (unless it's relatively new). Why do you think the head gasket is blown??? A blown head gasket WON'T usually cause an engine to seize unless you allow it to run until the engine to overheat excessively - and if you do that, a LOT more than the head gasket will need to be replaced before the engine will run again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
Cool. Thanks. Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:05:53 -0600 Brian Chase wrote: Good question. The thing was smoking (could mostly see it in the headlights of cars following at night). It wasn't black-ish smoke. And it didn't seem blue-ish like burning oil, nor was there a burnt-oil smell, or any oil collected in the tailpipe. The smoke is normal Remember, this thing is shrowded in mystery because the breakdwon occurred while I was not around and someone else put a bunch of miles on it - possibly someone was allowed to drive it who had little sense (girlfried, drinking buddy? - the truth is hard to come by someitmes). Or it could be that there was a problem with the engine when be bought it. The kid we got it from claimed his dad replaced the engine before his death. But with 120k on the clock, I don't see why. Maybe he put in a crap engine? Or did improper repairs? I don't have much faith in the previous owner. The other scenario would be its being run out of oil and driven dry of oil. The thing was using oil shockingly fast when I drove it around, but I have since been told that if the car sits for a long period (it sat for around a year), it often consumes oil for a while when it is first driven again. Also, I was told that if one fills the oil up to the full mark (which I did repeatedly), it will burn it down fast. It was almost certain to have been run out of oil. These things will use/leak some oil and whoever was driving it without permission probably didnt check it. A small bit of evidence in favor of the blown head gasket is the coolant level being significantlly low (it wasn't when I was using it). I know, inconclusive, but still evidence. Thats not very good evidence. So, Marshall/others, what would be the indicators of a blown head gasket? What would be the indicators of siezing due to lack of oil? If the engine is really siezed it would only because by A: Ran out of oil and it locked up B: Threw a rod and got stuck C: Timing chain broke and it got stuck. You could pull the oil pan and tell real quick whats going on if it was run out of oil or if it threw a rod. Pull the valve cover to see if the timing chain is broke. My money is still on they ran it out of oil. Seen it many times. Some have suggested a broken timing chain. Wouldn't this be a sudden seizing? This siezing wasn't sudden. Brian 83 240d From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:11:12 -0500 Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always replaced with the engine in the car. Usually/often the timing chain is replaced as well (unless it's relatively new). Why do you think the head gasket is blown??? A blown head gasket WON'T usually cause an engine to seize unless you allow it to run until the engine to overheat excessively - and if you do that, a LOT more than the head gasket will need to be replaced before the engine will run again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
I had my share of blown headgaskets. Since Brian does not know when and how whatever happened, one sure way to tell if it is the gasket is to look at the oil and the coolant. If the gasket went, there will be oil in the coolant (scum in the reservoir)and/or water in the oil (milky looking scum on the dipstick). On 11/24/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oooo, I get to disagree with Marshall... When I had my 300TD with a blown headgasket if I left the pressure cap in place without running the car for two or three days #1 cylinder would fill with water and the engine wouldn't crank. We just drove without the presure cap on tight. Got away with that for months before I got Hammie. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:11:12 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always replaced with the engine in the car. Usually/often the timing chain is replaced as well (unless it's relatively new). Why do you think the head gasket is blown??? A blown head gasket WON'T usually cause an engine to seize unless you allow it to run until the engine to overheat excessively - and if you do that, a LOT more than the head gasket will need to be replaced before the engine will run again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
Hans Neureiter wrote: I had my share of blown headgaskets. Since Brian does not know when and how whatever happened, one sure way to tell if it is the gasket is to look at the oil and the coolant. If the gasket went, there will be oil in the coolant (scum in the reservoir)and/or water in the oil (milky looking scum on the dipstick). Not always. I have had head gaskets blown where there was NO cross contamination or even loss of either fluid. It's possible for a gasket to simply blow out between adjacent cylinders! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
True, but that wouldn't cause serious damage to the motor. On 11/24/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: I had my share of blown headgaskets. Since Brian does not know when and how whatever happened, one sure way to tell if it is the gasket is to look at the oil and the coolant. If the gasket went, there will be oil in the coolant (scum in the reservoir)and/or water in the oil (milky looking scum on the dipstick). Not always. I have had head gaskets blown where there was NO cross contamination or even loss of either fluid. It's possible for a gasket to simply blow out between adjacent cylinders! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Unless it burns the top of block - you then have to remove and strip it to get suface ground back to flat - a real PITA. On 11/24/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but that wouldn't cause serious damage to the motor. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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Why not do a blow down test? One at a time, put each cylinder at TDC, feed in some compressed air and see what happens. Is there a reason this should not be done on a diesel? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
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As I recall, the original post reported a seized engine. Best to take a look before trying to force the engine to rotate. I'd still like to see more info on what to look for and how to interpret the results of a blow down test - if anyone has a link or document they could forward. Thanks -Dave Walton 94 S350, 99 300 On 11/24/05, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not do a blow down test? One at a time, put each cylinder at TDC, feed in some compressed air and see what happens. Is there a reason this should not be done on a diesel? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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How about removing the glowplugs and then attempt to rotate the crank. That will tell you instantly if it is truly a hydrostatic lock situation. Also it should then turn quite easily, no need to apply a lot of turning force and compound any damage. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:24 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Why not do a blow down test? One at a time, put each cylinder at TDC, feed in some compressed air and see what happens. Is there a reason this should not be done on a diesel?
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
Loren Faeth wrote: They can also only pressurize the radiator. Soot floating in the coolant is another symptom of a bad head gasket on diesels, but it can be hard to distinguish soot from normal cooling system debris.
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. Best-case scenario, and not all that improbable, is that just a new gasket will cure it. That's an easy in-car fix, and you can do it yourself. The 'investment' is minimal, except for your labor, so if it's not the solution you haven't spent too much on it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always replaced with the engine in the car. Usually/often the timing chain is replaced as well (unless it's relatively new). Why do you think the head gasket is blown??? A blown head gasket WON'T usually cause an engine to seize unless you allow it to run until the engine to overheat excessively - and if you do that, a LOT more than the head gasket will need to be replaced before the engine will run again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
In a gasoline engine, a blown head gasket can push enough coolant into the cylinders to cause the engine to seize because it can't compress the water. I believe the correct term for this is hydrolock. Once the cylinders are cleared of coolant, the engine will again turn. I assume it's a possible scenario in a diesel but I've never personally experienced it on a diesel. 3.8 liter GM engines were bad to do this when the stupid plastic intake manifold cracked and dumped coolant into the intake manifold, consequently filling the cylinders with coolant and causing a hydrolock. You could remove the spark plugs, turn the engine over to clear them of coolant and the engine was usually OK after the leaking intake manifold was replaced. Terry Geiger Florence, Alabama USA http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org '74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car) '63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car) '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car) '90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher) - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Brian Chase wrote: I was reminded that what may be ailing my engine (240d) is a blown head gasket. If that's the case, (typically speaking) is the engine in need of an overhaul, or can the cylinder(s) affected be repaired in-car? I'm assuming coolant in the cylinder and perhaps some pitting? A blown head gasket (relatively rare) is almost always replaced with the engine in the car. Usually/often the timing chain is replaced as well (unless it's relatively new). Why do you think the head gasket is blown??? A blown head gasket WON'T usually cause an engine to seize unless you allow it to run until the engine to overheat excessively - and if you do that, a LOT more than the head gasket will need to be replaced before the engine will run again. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown?
Terry Geiger wrote: In a gasoline engine, a blown head gasket can push enough coolant into the cylinders to cause the engine to seize because it can't compress the water. I believe the correct term for this is hydrolock. Once the cylinders are cleared of coolant, the engine will again turn. I assume it's a possible scenario in a diesel but I've never personally experienced it on a diesel. 3.8 liter GM engines were bad to do this when the stupid plastic intake manifold cracked and dumped coolant into the intake manifold, consequently filling the cylinders with coolant and causing a hydrolock. You could remove the spark plugs, turn the engine over to clear them of coolant and the engine was usually OK after the leaking intake manifold was replaced. Something like that can happen in a diesel too (but it almost always has other symptoms first - and usually gets pretty hot BEFORE it happens and that's a dead give-away), but the liquid WILL drain out after a bit and the engine can turn again - especially if you rock it a little and turn it slowly. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Would the coolant seep around the piston rings and end up in the oil pan? Thanks -Dave Walton 94 S350, 99 E300 On 11/23/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Geiger wrote: In a gasoline engine, a blown head gasket can push enough coolant into the cylinders to cause the engine to seize because it can't compress the water. I believe the correct term for this is hydrolock. Once the cylinders are cleared of coolant, the engine will again turn. I assume it's a possible scenario in a diesel but I've never personally experienced it on a diesel. 3.8 liter GM engines were bad to do this when the stupid plastic intake manifold cracked and dumped coolant into the intake manifold, consequently filling the cylinders with coolant and causing a hydrolock. You could remove the spark plugs, turn the engine over to clear them of coolant and the engine was usually OK after the leaking intake manifold was replaced. Something like that can happen in a diesel too (but it almost always has other symptoms first - and usually gets pretty hot BEFORE it happens and that's a dead give-away), but the liquid WILL drain out after a bit and the engine can turn again - especially if you rock it a little and turn it slowly. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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dave walton wrote: Would the coolant seep around the piston rings and end up in the oil pan? Usually. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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I understand my questions can be a bit overwhelming at times. I seek information. It's how I learn. Maybe I'll post it again after Thanksgiving when more people are back at work. Brian From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Head gasket blown? Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:50:21 -0500 dave walton wrote: Would the coolant seep around the piston rings and end up in the oil pan? Usually. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
