Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-02-02 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I am not usually a Leadfoot, but that Jag was so fast and so fun  to drive, 
that I did tend to drive it a little faster than normal.   The car was just 
ready to leap (pun intended). The first time I drove it, the previous owner 
showed me how to take off from a stop without squealing the tires. It really 
took a concerted effort to take off slowly.   But, it was scary fast when I 
floored at it any speed over 5 mph.  I have heard people say a car will throw 
you back in your seat and I always thought that was an exaggeration.  But, this 
car really would. And with all that torque, you really had to fight the wheel 
because the torque twisted the car.  

Don  

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:44:21 + Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 One of the reasons I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite 
 end of the spectrum from the 240D.  It was scary fast.  I was really 
 worried I would end up with way too many tickets or crash it.

Aha! Now we know the truth: Donald's alias is Leadfoot Louie!


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-02-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The guy I worked for when I was in tech school had 7-8 Jags at any given time, 
although no more than one or two were ever working simultaneously.

He had:

2- Mark IVs
1-XK140
1-XKE
2-XJ6s
1-XJ12

The XK140 barely ran, but when it did.the XKE was a badass car as well, 
even though it had the 3.8 liter six, and not the 4.2 or V12.

I got to drive the cars home if I wanted, as most of my hours were spent 
keeping them running. The XJ12 was the most amazing one, as you would be 
driving down a local road thinking you were doing 35 and would look down at the 
speedo and realize it was more like 60. The sense of speed was almost 
nonexistent in that car.

Too bad it was a carbureted model. Six side draft Solexs' that had to be 
balanced about every 500-750 miles or the gas mileage went from maybe 10 mpg 
well into the single digits.

Dan

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 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I am not usually a Leadfoot, but that Jag was so fast and so fun  to drive, 
 that I did tend to drive it a little faster than normal.   The car was just 
 ready to leap (pun intended). The first time I drove it, the previous owner 
 showed me how to take off from a stop without squealing the tires. It really 
 took a concerted effort to take off slowly.   But, it was scary fast when I 
 floored at it any speed over 5 mph.  I have heard people say a car will throw 
 you back in your seat and I always thought that was an exaggeration.  But, 
 this car really would. And with all that torque, you really had to fight the 
 wheel because the torque twisted the car.  
 
 Don  

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-02-01 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I feel the same about the wagon. Pedestrians get worked up when they hear
me coming but then they realize I am only going 25mph at 4000rpm.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 3:51 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Yup, I push my 240D to the limit and it is so much fun! I'm not going fast
 but it feels like I am.

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  On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Exactly!
 
  On Friday, January 30, 2015, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
  There is a lot to be said for driving a slow car as fast as it will go
  well, compared to a fast car that you can rarely exploit.
 
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.
 
  My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at
  stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before.  It's
  plenty fast enough.  Stickshift, and geared for a top speed
  of 85 or so.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
  --
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  2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-31 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Exactly!

On Friday, January 30, 2015, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 There is a lot to be said for driving a slow car as fast as it will go
 well, compared to a fast car that you can rarely exploit.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:

  My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.
 
 
  My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at
  stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before.  It's
  plenty fast enough.  Stickshift, and geared for a top speed
  of 85 or so.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
 


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 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-31 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Yup, I push my 240D to the limit and it is so much fun! I'm not going fast but 
it feels like I am.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 31, 2015, at 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Exactly!
 
 On Friday, January 30, 2015, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 There is a lot to be said for driving a slow car as fast as it will go
 well, compared to a fast car that you can rarely exploit.
 
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 
 My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.
 
 My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at
 stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before.  It's
 plenty fast enough.  Stickshift, and geared for a top speed
 of 85 or so.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
 --
 OK Don
 
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 our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
 
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 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.
 
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 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
WOW!  What is the going rate on these now? A few years ago, this would have 
sold for $5000!  Has the market changed?  I would think someone would snatch 
that car up! 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:21 PM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts!

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897

Dan



 On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in 
 December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint 
 and repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the 
 interior is wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 
 2004... and the second one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a 
 four speed that i had from 1998-2001.
 
 Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind 
 the wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of 
 acceleration seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic 
 (or even passing
 someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
 Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on 
 the road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better 
 driver.
 
 I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, 
 manual everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the 
 automatic.
 I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get 
 out every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some 
 crummy pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
 I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But, 
 they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d 
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You don't get run over though. People honk and complain occasionally but mostly 
they just live with it. I commuted with a 240D pretty much full time for 10 
years. Drove it into Boston or to Maine, no big whoop.
-Curt
  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
   
That really is a nice car!  But, I can't imagine driving that today.  My old 83 
123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.  After I got my 124 Diesel, 
I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate.  I have never 
driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster.  That car 
probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over.  



  
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:44:21 + Donald Snook via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 One of the reasons I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite
 end of the spectrum from the 240D.  It was scary fast.  I was really
 worried I would end up with way too many tickets or crash it.

Aha! Now we know the truth: Donald's alias is Leadfoot Louie!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:04:18 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Jamie said,
 
  I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
  they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
  Jaime
 
 AND NO ACC!  Just valves that work and a fan switch that works!
 
 I'd prefer a 240D 3.0 over a 300D any day! simply because with a 240D 
 3.0 there is NO ACC to break regularly!

Yes, indeed! Our '82 240D/3.0 has no ACC and I can set the airflow
however I want it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I’m sure you can get used to it. I’m just saying for me, it would drive me 
crazy. In the last 3-4 years I have driven my BMW (with 300 HP) and my Jag 
(XJR) with 300 HP and over 300 lb Torque (and a supercharger), so I couldn’t 
get used to driving a car you have to plan that far ahead.  One of the reasons 
I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite end of the spectrum from 
the 240D.  It was scary fast.  I was really worried I would end up with way too 
many tickets or crash it.

From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:32 AM
To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

You don't get run over though. People honk and complain occasionally but mostly 
they just live with it. I commuted with a 240D pretty much full time for 10 
years. Drove it into Boston or to Maine, no big whoop.

-Curt


From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
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mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

That really is a nice car!  But, I can't imagine driving that today.  My old 83 
123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.  After I got my 124 Diesel, 
I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate.  I have never 
driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster.  That car 
probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over.


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.


My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at
stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before.  It's
plenty fast enough.  Stickshift, and geared for a top speed
of 85 or so.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

I think you would adapt pretty quickly.
I switch back and forth, in summer, between the new F150 with the coyote 
engine and the old non turbo 300D and really don't notice much difference.
The truck will growl and go if I really step on it but I seldom need to 
do that and generally try not to abuse it.
The diesel is fine in stop and go traffic in town. It is a bit slow on 
the merge lane situations but apart from that, no big deal.
I don't drive it all that much on 2 lane highways where I need to pass 
quickly and if I do, then I drive accordingly. I know the roads that I 
drive on well enough to know where a place to pass will be if there is 
no oncoming traffic and then plan ahead to drop back before hand and 
then come up on the car I want to pass at a faster speed than it is 
travelling. If the way is clear, around I go, and if it is not, then I 
drop back and wait for the next opportunity.


RB

On 30/01/2015 9:44 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I’m sure you can get used to it. I’m just saying for me, it would drive me 
crazy. In the last 3-4 years I have driven my BMW (with 300 HP) and my Jag 
(XJR) with 300 HP and over 300 lb Torque (and a supercharger), so I couldn’t 
get used to driving a car you have to plan that far ahead.  One of the reasons 
I got rid of my Jag was because it was the opposite end of the spectrum from 
the 240D.  It was scary fast.  I was really worried I would end up with way too 
many tickets or crash it.

From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:32 AM
To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

You don't get run over though. People honk and complain occasionally but mostly 
they just live with it. I commuted with a 240D pretty much full time for 10 
years. Drove it into Boston or to Maine, no big whoop.

-Curt


From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

That really is a nice car!  But, I can't imagine driving that today.  My old 83 
123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.  After I got my 124 Diesel, 
I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate.  I have never 
driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster.  That car 
probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over.


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes



I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/

I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.

Jaime


AND NO ACC!  Just valves that work and a fan switch that works!

I'd prefer a 240D 3.0 over a 300D any day! simply because with a 240D 
3.0 there is NO ACC to break regularly!


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
That really is a nice car!  But, I can't imagine driving that today.  My old 83 
123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.  After I got my 124 Diesel, 
I realized that MB diesels can be relatively fast to accelerate.  I have never 
driven one of the 210 diesels, but I assume they are even faster.  That car 
probably does make you a better driver, but it could also get you run over.   

-Original Message-
From: Jaime Kopchinski [mailto:jaime...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:59 PM
To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December 
with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and repairs from 
some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful.  Its the 
first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first 
mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001.

Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the 
wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration seems 
like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road 
and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.

I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual 
everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every 
hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy pictures I took 
of it in the rain earlier this month:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/

I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But, they're 
getting pretty impossible to find these days.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There is a lot to be said for driving a slow car as fast as it will go
well, compared to a fast car that you can rarely exploit.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 My old 83 123 turbo diesel was bad enough about acceleration.


 My 1972 200D (euro 115) is no speed demon, but most times at
 stop lights I'm seeing the cars behind me, not before.  It's
 plenty fast enough.  Stickshift, and geared for a top speed
 of 85 or so.

 -- Jim





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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Have you seen what W123 window switches cost these days?

I do agree with you, however.

The 15 bundts are half the value of the car. I had 15 steelies on my W123 LWB 
and the difference in ride, ride height and handling was amazing.

Dan


 On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4 windows 
 would work again.  It must have some other major problem...
 
 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts!
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897
 
 Dan
 
 
 
  On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
  December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
  repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
  wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
  one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
  1998-2001.
 
  Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
  wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
  seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
  someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
  Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
  road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.
 
  I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
  everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
  I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
  every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
  pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
  http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
  I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
  they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
  automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
That's why I have crank windows;)

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Have you seen what W123 window switches cost these days?
 
 I do agree with you, however.
 
 The 15 bundts are half the value of the car. I had 15 steelies on my W123 
 LWB and the difference in ride, ride height and handling was amazing.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4 windows 
 would work again.  It must have some other major problem...
 
 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts!
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
 December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
 repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
 wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
 one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
 1998-2001.
 
 Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
 wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
 seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
 someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
 Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
 road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.
 
 I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
 everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
 I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
 every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
 pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
 I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
 they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have a bin full of working window switches. Make me an offer.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:40 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That's why I have crank windows;)

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Have you seen what W123 window switches cost these days?
 
  I do agree with you, however.
 
  The 15 bundts are half the value of the car. I had 15 steelies on my
 W123 LWB and the difference in ride, ride height and handling was amazing.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4
 windows would work again.  It must have some other major problem...
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts!
 
 
 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897
 
  Dan
 
 
 
  On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
  December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint
 and
  repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior
 is
  wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the
 second
  one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had
 from
  1998-2001.
 
  Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime
 behind the
  wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of
 acceleration
  seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even
 passing
  someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in
 reality.
  Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on
 the
  road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better
 driver.
 
  I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio,
 manual
  everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the
 automatic.
  I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get
 out
  every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
  pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
  http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
  I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
  they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
  automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first
 car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-30 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
That’s a lovely car, Jaime.


 On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I'm ready.   I'll probably list it this weekend for $5k
 
 Jaime

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My 1983 300TD performs like a Porsche.

Only a slight exaggeration, but it is very quick!

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Slow down  smell the diesel. My 2.5t is a rocket compared to 240D.
 On Jan 29, 2015 11:04 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  You must have a desire to move very S L O W.
 
  Don Snook
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:26 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
 
  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
  automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Slow down  smell the diesel. My 2.5t is a rocket compared to 240D.
On Jan 29, 2015 11:04 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 You must have a desire to move very S L O W.

 Don Snook

 -Original Message-
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:26 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
You must have a desire to move very S L O W.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic 
and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 LOL!

 I withdraw the mirth in case you weren't trying to be funny.

All I have to say is, the breaks work on that car.
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 My 1983 300TD performs like a Porsche.

My 87 300SDL also performs like a Porch, except that it mostly blocks
out the breeze with the doors closed.

(RIP RLE.)

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts!

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897

Dan



 On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
 December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
 repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
 wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
 one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
 1998-2001.
 
 Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
 wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
 seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
 someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
 Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
 road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.
 
 I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
 everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
 I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
 every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
 pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
 I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
 they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
When you get ready to sell it let me know

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 On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in December 
 with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and repairs from 
 some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is wonderful.  Its 
 the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second one since my first 
 mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from 1998-2001.
 
 Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the 
 wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration 
 seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing 
 someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.  Very 
 satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the road and 
 be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.
 
 I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual 
 everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.  I 
 rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out every 
 hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy pictures I 
 took of it in the rain earlier this month:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
 I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But, 
 they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d 
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Auto box twin to the '78 240D that Dwight, Dimitiri and I have (or in Dimitri's 
case currently) owned. I can't really tell from your link but it looks as 
though theres probably no hole in the roof..
You ought to buy the '78 from Dimitri and transplant the 4spd.
The series plugs are easy to do away with and the car starts so much better 
with parallel. Make big cables for it. I used 10ga which was an upgrade from 
what I think was probably 18ga when I got it. Fred gave me some 8ga wire that 
I'd intended to use but eventually used for battery cables on my Cub Cadet.
-Curt
  From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
   
Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
1998-2001.

Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.

I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/

I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.

Jaime


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
1998-2001.

Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.

I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/

I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.

Jaime


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
You're forgetting I'm an originality freak. I'm happy to keep the series
plugs :)

They work!

Jaime


On Thursday, January 29, 2015, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Auto box twin to the '78 240D that Dwight, Dimitiri and I have (or in
 Dimitri's case currently) owned. I can't really tell from your link but it
 looks as though theres probably no hole in the roof..
 You ought to buy the '78 from Dimitri and transplant the 4spd.
 The series plugs are easy to do away with and the car starts so much
 better with parallel. Make big cables for it. I used 10ga which was an
 upgrade from what I think was probably 18ga when I got it. Fred gave me
 some 8ga wire that I'd intended to use but eventually used for battery
 cables on my Cub Cadet.
 -Curt
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 javascript:;
  To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net javascript:;; Mercedes
 Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:;
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

 Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
 December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
 repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
 wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
 one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
 1998-2001.

 Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
 wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
 seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
 someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
 Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
 road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.

 I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
 everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
 I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
 every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
 pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/

 I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
 they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.

 Jaime


 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:

  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
  automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Ok, I'm ready.   I'll probably list it this weekend for $5k

Jaime

On Thursday, January 29, 2015, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 When you get ready to sell it let me know

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jaime...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
 December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
 repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
 wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the second
 one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
 1998-2001.

 Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind the
 wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
 seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
 someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
 Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
 road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better driver.

 I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
 everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
 I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
 every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
 pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
 http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/

 I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
 they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.

 Jaime


 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mercedes@okiebenz.com'); wrote:

 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What kind of dumb a** wouldn't replace the switches so 3 of the 4 windows
would work again.  It must have some other major problem...

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Here is a 300D you should be looking at - it's got 15 bundts!


 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2231705-sale-w123-82-300d-turbo-diesel.html#post10901897

 Dan



  On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Funny you should mention that... I picked up an automatic 79 240D in
  December with 100k miles on it.  The body has had its share of paint and
  repairs from some fender benders, but its not rusty and the interior is
  wonderful.  Its the first 240D I've had since about 2004... and the
 second
  one since my first mercedes, a 82 240D with a four speed that i had from
  1998-2001.
 
  Its slower than I remember these cars being, but after sometime behind
 the
  wheel I remember just how enjoyable they are.  Every bit of acceleration
  seems like a gift, and keeping up with highway traffic (or even passing
  someone!) seems to prove that you don't need more than 62hp in reality.
  Very satisfying.  You are forced to carefully think out your moves on the
  road and be more aware of your surroundings.  It makes you a better
 driver.
 
  I love the simplicity of the car.  Series glow plugs, mono radio, manual
  everything, no sunroof.  Big options on the car are AC and the automatic.
  I rebuilt the injectors and set the cam and injection timing to get out
  every hp I could.  Its really lovely to drive.  Here are some crummy
  pictures I took of it in the rain earlier this month:
  http://images.jaimekop.com/2015_01_04_240D/
 
  I need to find another one with a 4 speed and keep it long-term.  But,
  they're getting pretty impossible to find these days.
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
  automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first
 car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Is that you Regina???


RB


On 28/01/2015 3:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic 
and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.





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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Well my first Benz was a 79 240D automatic   I did fine with it as long as
I pretended I was cycling  always chanted gravity is your friend. I  put
about 70k commuting miles on it- most on I95. It was a middle lane car. Of
course I put Mobil1 ATF in it for winter shifts.
On Jan 28, 2015 5:59 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Automatic? Why?

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My first MB was a '70 220D, standard. I couldn't believe that they put an
auto in those cars at the time . . .

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Well my first Benz was a 79 240D automatic   I did fine with it as long as
 I pretended I was cycling  always chanted gravity is your friend. I  put
 about 70k commuting miles on it- most on I95. It was a middle lane car. Of
 course I put Mobil1 ATF in it for winter shifts.
 On Jan 28, 2015 5:59 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:




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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Funny you should mention it I'm thinking I need a 1967-1972 GMC or Chevy pickup 
in 4wd. Ideally it'd be a '71-'71 with a 4spd manual because those could have 
disc front brakes although I'd give that up for one with a 305 v6 because those 
are wicked cool.
Sadly its all academic right now, I don't have the money, space or time. I 
suppose if I had one I could convince the ChowdaQ folks it was cool enough to 
let me bring it even without a 3 pointed star?
-Curt
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:26 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
   
Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d automatic 
and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Automatic? Why?

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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Jan 28, 2015 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

My auto 74 240D was quite drivable.  Was the 115 that much lighter than the
77?  I really liked the 115; though I did enjoy my 123 it just never felt
quite as polished.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Curt you will always be allowed @ chowdahQ even if you showed up in a
fr.g Kia. Besides we need your culinary expertise. I was into old
trucks before my Benzes.  I had 48  50 Dodge 1/2 ton, 59 chevy panel, 67
Ford 250  flatbed.
On Jan 28, 2015 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Funny you should mention it I'm thinking I need a 1967-1972 GMC or Chevy
 pickup in 4wd. Ideally it'd be a '71-'71 with a 4spd manual because those
 could have disc front brakes although I'd give that up for one with a 305
 v6 because those are wicked cool.
 Sadly its all academic right now, I don't have the money, space or time. I
 suppose if I had one I could convince the ChowdaQ folks it was cool enough
 to let me bring it even without a 3 pointed star?
 -Curt
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:26 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.

 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
As long as he doesn't show up in a Prius he should be good:)

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 On Jan 28, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Curt you will always be allowed @ chowdahQ even if you showed up in a
 fr.g Kia. Besides we need your culinary expertise. I was into old
 trucks before my Benzes.  I had 48  50 Dodge 1/2 ton, 59 chevy panel, 67
 Ford 250  flatbed.
 On Jan 28, 2015 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Funny you should mention it I'm thinking I need a 1967-1972 GMC or Chevy
 pickup in 4wd. Ideally it'd be a '71-'71 with a 4spd manual because those
 could have disc front brakes although I'd give that up for one with a 305
 v6 because those are wicked cool.
 Sadly its all academic right now, I don't have the money, space or time. I
 suppose if I had one I could convince the ChowdaQ folks it was cool enough
 to let me bring it even without a 3 pointed star?
 -Curt
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:26 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
 
 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What if I ran one over with a tank?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k
-Curt
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 To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
   
As long as he doesn't show up in a Prius he should be good:)

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 On Jan 28, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Curt you will always be allowed @ chowdahQ even if you showed up in a
 fr.g Kia. Besides we need your culinary expertise. I was into old
 trucks before my Benzes.  I had 48  50 Dodge 1/2 ton, 59 chevy panel, 67
 Ford 250  flatbed.
 On Jan 28, 2015 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Funny you should mention it I'm thinking I need a 1967-1972 GMC or Chevy
 pickup in 4wd. Ideally it'd be a '71-'71 with a 4spd manual because those
 could have disc front brakes although I'd give that up for one with a 305
 v6 because those are wicked cool.
 Sadly its all academic right now, I don't have the money, space or time. I
 suppose if I had one I could convince the ChowdaQ folks it was cool enough
 to let me bring it even without a 3 pointed star?
 -Curt
      From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:26 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
 
 Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
 automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first car.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I liked that the '70 had no labels on the controls - you were supposed to
read the manual, and learn what each knob, lever, and switch did before you
drove the car. I think a lot was lost when they moved away from the double
wishbone front suspension (cost savings). The 115 and the 107 were the best
driving MB's I have owned.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 My auto 74 240D was quite drivable.  Was the 115 that much lighter than the
 77?  I really liked the 115; though I did enjoy my 123 it just never felt
 quite as polished.

 Best,
 Tim




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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Then you would win the gold tri star prize. Some years ago when i was a
volunteer fire fighter one of our rival paid dept's got a new ladder truck.
First time they used it they squashed a Honda with the outriggers.  Sweet.
On Jan 28, 2015 9:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 What if I ran one over with a tank?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k
 -Curt
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  To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

 As long as he doesn't show up in a Prius he should be good:)

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 28, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Curt you will always be allowed @ chowdahQ even if you showed up in a
  fr.g Kia. Besides we need your culinary expertise. I was into old
  trucks before my Benzes.  I had 48  50 Dodge 1/2 ton, 59 chevy panel, 67
  Ford 250  flatbed.
  On Jan 28, 2015 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
  Funny you should mention it I'm thinking I need a 1967-1972 GMC or Chevy
  pickup in 4wd. Ideally it'd be a '71-'71 with a 4spd manual because
 those
  could have disc front brakes although I'd give that up for one with a
 305
  v6 because those are wicked cool.
  Sadly its all academic right now, I don't have the money, space or
 time. I
  suppose if I had one I could convince the ChowdaQ folks it was cool
 enough
  to let me bring it even without a 3 pointed star?
  -Curt
   From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:26 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] I must be pregnant
 
  Because I have a strange urge. I have the urge for about a 77-79 240d
  automatic and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because that was my first
 car.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I must be pregnant

2015-01-28 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
My first MB was a 71 250. In the middle of the production they started putting 
the 2.8 engine in them (the one with the crazy carbs).  It was a beautiful red 
with white interior. I loved that car. The guy I bought it from spent 
$6000-7000 restoring it. I bought it for $3000 and loved it. 

Donald H. Snook




 On Jan 28, 2015, at 7:01 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My first MB was a '70 220D, standard. I couldn't believe that they put an
 auto in those cars at the time . . .
 
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Well my first Benz was a 79 240D automatic   I did fine with it as long as
 I pretended I was cycling  always chanted gravity is your friend. I  put
 about 70k commuting miles on it- most on I95. It was a middle lane car. Of
 course I put Mobil1 ATF in it for winter shifts.
 On Jan 28, 2015 5:59 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 OK Don
 
 NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
 
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 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.
 
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 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
 

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