Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Pretty sure it was a Wheelskin that I put on the W140. A bit tedious to install 
correctly, but when done right it’s nearly imperceptible from the original 
cover (if it had one.)

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 12:31 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The steering wheel is your primary user interface, it's usually worth
> a bit of effort to make it nice.  We've used Wheelskins covers on a
> few of ours.  Nice, but the installation is a bit tedious.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The steering wheel is your primary user interface, it's usually worth
a bit of effort to make it nice.  We've used Wheelskins covers on a
few of ours.  Nice, but the installation is a bit tedious.

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Absolutely, to each his/her own. If it was really rough or there was concern 
about it hurting me with scratching or cutting, I would do it as an interim fix 
until I could restore/replace.

The restoration process isn’t difficult, but time consuming. A lot of 
fill/dry/sand, rinse and repeat until it’s nice. Much like bodywork, which I 
hate, so the option of a brand new $500 steering wheel versus many hours of 
work that might end up with a less than satisfactory result was pretty 
attractive to me. My time has value, too.

I replaced the steering wheel on my 2008 ML550 because the lacing was 
unraveling. I tried re-sewing which didn’t really help much, as the OE cover 
was loose now and would move around when gripped no matter what, so I found a 
nice used replacement for about $150 and swapped it out. I replaced the 
telematics switches while I was there as well, as they were getting 
grungy/sticky, too. Swapping a steering wheel isn’t difficult, especially if 
you have the MB driver for the airbag screws. It’s so much nicer since I did 
that.

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 10:15 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Or put a leather wrap on it.
> 
> That's what I've done. Get a nice lace-on leather wrap, looks good and
> feels good on the hands.
> 
> You'd still need to fill in any gaps but would not have to worry so 
> much about getting a perfect finish.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have a leather wrap on my W211 steering wheel. The original varnish/plastic 
finish on the wood sections was cracked and chipping off. I bought a lace-on 
leather wrap that is thin (it's just leather, no padding), it fits really 
tightly, feels nice in the hands, and IMO looks good. I appreciate that it's a 
matter of personal preference however.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, at 14:36, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> As a purist I would never wrap a steering wheel like this unless it was 
> the absolute last thing I could do.
>
> That said, I have used a really expensive leather wrap on a W140 that 
> looked almost OE and was very high quality. It also took over an hour 
> to install…
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

As a purist I would never wrap a steering wheel like this unless it was the 
absolute last thing I could do.

That said, I have used a really expensive leather wrap on a W140 that looked 
almost OE and was very high quality. It also took over an hour to install…

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Or put a leather wrap on it.
> 
> That's what I've done. Get a nice lace-on leather wrap, looks good and
> feels good on the hands.
> 
> You'd still need to fill in any gaps but would not have to worry so
> much about getting a perfect finish.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

> Or put a leather wrap on it.

That's what I've done. Get a nice lace-on leather wrap, looks good and
feels good on the hands.

You'd still need to fill in any gaps but would not have to worry so 
much about getting a perfect finish.

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

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Nearly everything expands and contracts with heat.  A major source of trouble
would be differential coefficients of expansion between the plastic(s) and
the steel spine.  Ideally they minimized that by choice of plastic, but did 
they?
(Consider the lowly vacuum tube or incandescent light bulb.  The metal that
goes through the glass envelope was carefully chosen so that its expansion
coefficient matched the glass, so that the seal would never break from the
extreme thermal cycling present in that environment.)

Expansion and contraction could cause cracking if the material is not resilient
enough, but the fact that there are fissures and no lost material indicates that
it is the original plastic _shrinking_, slowly, that is the root cause here.  
(Unless
you think that the steel core is slowly _expanding_?)

Even repaired, it probably will eventually do the same again/more, but it'll
take some time.  And you can always repeat the repair in another decade
or three if it bothers you.

Or put a leather wrap on it.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Nothing, but consider that you’re looking at material that’s been exposed to 
the elements for all intents and purposes for over 60 years, I wouldn’t be 
terribly concerned myself. That and I would also be storing the vehicle in far 
less extreme conditions that it had probably experienced over it’s life up to 
that point. And no matter what, it will still look better than it did...

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 8:58 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> What prevents the same expansion/contraction from re-cracking the repairs?
> 
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, at 11:37, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> No. The pieces of remaining steering wheel material are firmly anchored 
>> in place to a steel ring which is the foundation for the steering 
>> wheel. It’s just expansion and contraction of the material over many 
>> years that causes the cracks, I presume. When they do crack, and even 
>> when pieces come off, the others remain in place and don’t move around 
>> - at least from my experience they don’t. I guess you could have one 
>> that missing some really big chunks and some of the remaining ones 
>> could move around, but I’ve never seen one that severe.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rare S class finnie, a case study in decayed elegance...  Might be fun to
>>> drive while putting off any thoughts of a restoration, although the
>>> steering wheel may completely disintegrate in the process.  Wonder what
>>> it's worth...
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961-mercedes-benz-220sb-sedan/

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

What prevents the same expansion/contraction from re-cracking the repairs?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, at 11:37, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> No. The pieces of remaining steering wheel material are firmly anchored 
> in place to a steel ring which is the foundation for the steering 
> wheel. It’s just expansion and contraction of the material over many 
> years that causes the cracks, I presume. When they do crack, and even 
> when pieces come off, the others remain in place and don’t move around 
> - at least from my experience they don’t. I guess you could have one 
> that missing some really big chunks and some of the remaining ones 
> could move around, but I’ve never seen one that severe.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Rare S class finnie, a case study in decayed elegance...  Might be fun to
>> drive while putting off any thoughts of a restoration, although the
>> steering wheel may completely disintegrate in the process.  Wonder what
>> it's worth...
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961-mercedes-benz-220sb-sedan/

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Exactly. POR-15 made a steering wheel restoration kit some time ago that was 
basically a couple blocks of their epoxy putty and some sandpaper. That’s all 
it takes. I’ve never done it, but I was prepared to before Jamie found the 
reamining stock being sold, so I bought a new one. And it was breathtaking!

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 8:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My experience (W115) is that the epoxy-like plastic shrinks with
> age, and once the accumulated stress exceeds the remaining
> material strength a fissure opens up, and only gets wider with
> increasing age.  Nothing is loose, mobile, or crumbly.  It seems
> like it would be a pretty good base for the described repair.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My experience (W115) is that the epoxy-like plastic shrinks with
age, and once the accumulated stress exceeds the remaining
material strength a fissure opens up, and only gets wider with
increasing age.  Nothing is loose, mobile, or crumbly.  It seems
like it would be a pretty good base for the described repair.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

No. The pieces of remaining steering wheel material are firmly anchored in 
place to a steel ring which is the foundation for the steering wheel. It’s just 
expansion and contraction of the material over many years that causes the 
cracks, I presume. When they do crack, and even when pieces come off, the 
others remain in place and don’t move around - at least from my experience they 
don’t. I guess you could have one that missing some really big chunks and some 
of the remaining ones could move around, but I’ve never seen one that severe.

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rare S class finnie, a case study in decayed elegance...  Might be fun to
> drive while putting off any thoughts of a restoration, although the
> steering wheel may completely disintegrate in the process.  Wonder what
> it's worth...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Do the cracks pinch?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:33 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The steering wheel will not disintegrate, believe me. Typical restoration
> for these, since Jamie and I bought the last of them a few years ago,
> involves filling the cracks with epoxy, using a rasp and sandpaper to
> smooth out, then paint. It’s not terribly difficult or expensive to do if
> you have the time to invest. Pay someone to do it and you’ll feel some pain.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rare S class finnie, a case study in decayed elegance...  Might be fun to
> > drive while putting off any thoughts of a restoration, although the
> > steering wheel may completely disintegrate in the process.  Wonder what
> > it's worth...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting 220Sb on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

The steering wheel will not disintegrate, believe me. Typical restoration for 
these, since Jamie and I bought the last of them a few years ago, involves 
filling the cracks with epoxy, using a rasp and sandpaper to smooth out, then 
paint. It’s not terribly difficult or expensive to do if you have the time to 
invest. Pay someone to do it and you’ll feel some pain.

-D

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rare S class finnie, a case study in decayed elegance...  Might be fun to
> drive while putting off any thoughts of a restoration, although the
> steering wheel may completely disintegrate in the process.  Wonder what
> it's worth...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting spec -- 2013 Mercedes-Benz gl-class,$18,599

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yikes. Zu viele . 
It sure is pretty though. 

AZBob 

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> On May 4, 2024, at 8:08 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ask is way too high for the miles and year
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/796458959079158
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We get that in New England too, especially in the farm county up north.

-Curt

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  On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 7:45 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   I guess a lot of people who haven’t 
grown up in the Midwest don’t understand the thrill of sitting out on the 
(enclosed) porch and watching the whole process of a big storm blowing up. 
Something I never tire of, but don’t see much of anymore, either.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
> bed with a tornado warning underway. 
> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we were 
> watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. The 
> whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who had 
> never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life. 
> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram I 
> traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
> fly back to AZ tomorrow. 
> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
> little fussy. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>> windstorms come your way.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
 to pop in the one that won’t move.
 
 —FT
 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I believe I have related this story before about a tornado in maybe 1974 
that went through Indiana and did huge amounts of damage.


I belonged to the flying club at Purdue and there was a deal if you 
washed and waxed an airplane you could get a couple hours of flying time 
for free.  I corralled a buddy who also lived in Fort Wayne, we were HS 
friends and classmates and he would go home with me occasionally, to 
come out and help me do the plane.  The club had its planes at this 
little private airport a bit NE of WLafayette kinda out in the country.  
We were out there one afternoon, I think it was a Sunday doing the 
plane, had washed it outside then pushed it into the hangar to wax it 
out of the sun.  It was a gorgeous spring afternoon.


After awhile maybe around 3ish I noticed the sky was getting a little 
weird, kind of a yellow glow, wind had died down and the insects had 
quit making bug noises.  The guy who owned the airport lived in a little 
house there and had a coupla dogs that were acting kinda weird.  I told 
my buddy we should probably think about going back to campus as I had 
seen this before and had an idea of what was coming.  I had a car at the 
time for a little while that my parents had let me take to school for 
some reason I forget and had driven it to the airport.  Anyway, we got 
in the car and put on the radio and the announcers were all screaming 
about storms and tornadoes so we said we had made a good call. Got about 
halfway back to campus and it started raining so hard we couldn't even 
see out of the windshield.  I pulled over best I could to what I thought 
was the side of the road and stopped. Wind was incredible and we both 
thought we were in the middle of a tornado, the radio was saying there 
was one going through and it was bad.  We were both about as scared as 
20yos can be because it was pretty rough.


After a few minutes the rain and wind stopped and the storm passed on by 
and sun came out, it was weird.  We got back to campus and of course 
everyone in the dorm was talking about it.  There were a couple of 
high-rise dorms maybe 1/4-1/2 mile away from ours that you could see, 
they were all saying the tornado was coming right at one of them but 
passed over at the last second and went up into the cloud then dropped 
down again and headed NE.  Next few days the news was full of reports 
about the storm and tornado and damaged it had caused for like 
20-30miles.  It was crazy.


Next weekend I got my buddy and we took the plane up for a reconnoiter.  
Flew to the SW a bit and found where the ground path had started then 
followed it for the whole path and it was 20-30miles.  Stayed pretty low 
so we could see the damage on the ground.  It had the whole deal -- 2x4s 
through phone poles, the path going between a house and shed or garage 
like a plow had torn up the ground but left everything either side 
completely intact.  The craziest thing was this steel truss bridge over 
the Wabash river had been picked up off its pilings and moved like 100ft 
downstream  and dropped intact in the river.


I remembered really bad tornadoes, Palm Sunday in probably 1965 or 1966 
or so that had even worse devastation. My parents went on a drive to 
oogle the damage and that made an impression on me.  This one was right 
up there.


A couple years later kind of the same situation, one spring afternoon it 
was getting a little weird, tornadoes were around, radio was saying 
there was one to the west.  I was living in this apartment complex at 
the time, my window faced west, I was looking out and shonuff about 
5-10miles away I could see one dancing from a cloud.  I kept an eye on 
it for a bit but it went on north of where I was and I don't think it 
actually did much damage anywhere.  Scary enough though.


We have them here on the Island too, I think a few years back associated 
with one of the hurricanes I had a small one hit right in front of the 
house in the woods, a few days later I noticed a bunch of small trees 
down in a swirl pattern.  A bit later I checked out the recorded radar 
path and it looked like it probably did come right through but here the 
strength was not registering so I guess it was not too strong.  It was 
winding and raining pretty hard at the time in the hurricane so did not 
hear or see it directly.


Be vigilant!

--FT

On 4/29/24 12:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I recall when a tornado went through just south of our first house in
Indiana. As you drove down SR 37 you could see it’s path through the
forests and fields. Like a lawn mower went through and just cleared a
path.

And yes, tonadoes*do*  sound like really loud freight trains.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Summers when I worked at FWA I’d stand out on the ramp and watch storms 
building a long ways off. Watched a few ternaders develop and scoot off 
different directions while marveling at nature’s power

--FT
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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess a lot of people who haven’t grown up in the Midwest don’t understand 
> the thrill of sitting out on the (enclosed) porch and watching the whole 
> process of a big storm blowing up. Something I never tire of, but don’t see 
> much of anymore, either.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
>> bed with a tornado warning underway.
>> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we 
>> were watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. 
>> The whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who 
>> had never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life.
>> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram 
>> I traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
>> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
>> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
>> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
>> fly back to AZ tomorrow.
>> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
>> little fussy.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>>> windstorms come your way.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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>>  wrote:
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> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
> to pop in the one that won’t move.
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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He doesn’t need one with the windbreak of the Back 40.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Nope
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>> On 29/04/2024 11:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went 
>>> thru a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado 
>>> blew thru that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  
>>> We didn’t end up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Do you have a storm shelter?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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But it is a 300CD

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Nope

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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 11:54 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> On 29/04/2024 11:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> We were up at midnight- 1am watching the weather because we had a line of 
>> stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went 
>> thru a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado blew 
>> thru that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  We 
>> didn’t end up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres.
>> 
>> 
> Do you have a storm shelter?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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I recall when a tornado went through just south of our first house in Indiana. 
As you drove down SR 37 you could see it’s path through the forests and fields. 
Like a lawn mower went through and just cleared a path.

And yes, tonadoes *do* sound like really loud freight trains.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We were up at midnight- 1am watching the weather because we had a line of 
> stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went 
> thru a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado blew 
> thru that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  We 
> didn’t end up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 11:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess a lot of people who haven’t grown up in the Midwest don’t 
>> understand the thrill of sitting out on the (enclosed) porch and watching 
>> the whole process of a big storm blowing up. Something I never tire of, but 
>> don’t see much of anymore, either.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
>>> bed with a tornado warning underway.
>>> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we 
>>> were watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that 
>>> is. The whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter 
>>> who had never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life.
>>> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram 
>>> I traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
>>> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
>>> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
>>> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
>>> fly back to AZ tomorrow.
>>> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
>>> little fussy.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
 windstorms come your way.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
>> to pop in the one that won’t move.
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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On 29/04/2024 11:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

We were up at midnight- 1am watching the weather because we had a line of 
stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went thru 
a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado blew thru 
that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  We didn’t end 
up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres.



Do you have a storm shelter?

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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We were up at midnight- 1am watching the weather because we had a line of 
stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went thru 
a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado blew thru 
that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  We didn’t end 
up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 11:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess a lot of people who haven’t grown up in the Midwest don’t understand 
> the thrill of sitting out on the (enclosed) porch and watching the whole 
> process of a big storm blowing up. Something I never tire of, but don’t see 
> much of anymore, either.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
>> bed with a tornado warning underway.
>> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we 
>> were watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. 
>> The whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who 
>> had never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life.
>> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram 
>> I traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
>> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
>> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
>> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
>> fly back to AZ tomorrow.
>> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
>> little fussy.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>>> windstorms come your way.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
> to pop in the one that won’t move.
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/TQraV7wrW6q4YJe4/?mibextid=79PoIi
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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I guess a lot of people who haven’t grown up in the Midwest don’t understand 
the thrill of sitting out on the (enclosed) porch and watching the whole 
process of a big storm blowing up. Something I never tire of, but don’t see 
much of anymore, either.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
> bed with a tornado warning underway. 
> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we were 
> watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. The 
> whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who had 
> never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life. 
> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram I 
> traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
> fly back to AZ tomorrow. 
> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
> little fussy. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>> windstorms come your way.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
 to pop in the one that won’t move.
 
 —FT
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to bed 
with a tornado warning underway. 
Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we were 
watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. The 
whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who had 
never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life. 
I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram I 
traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front porch, 
fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the requisite family 
visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to fly back to AZ 
tomorrow. 
Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
little fussy. 

AZBob

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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
> windstorms come your way.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans to 
>>> pop in the one that won’t move.
>>> 
>>> —FT
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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> On Apr 28, 2024, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s windstorms 
come your way.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans to 
>> pop in the one that won’t move.
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Too big to carry on. 

AZBob 

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Go buy them 

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>> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans to 
>> pop in the one that won’t move.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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I would prefer to be at $3k, but $4k might be OK. Have the coupes been dropping 
lately?

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Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow. 

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans to pop 
in the one that won’t move. 

—FT

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting color -- 1991 Mercedes Benz 300E,$11,250

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PRetty car, but overpriced unless it were a diesel.

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> Somewhat ambitious on price but looks really nice
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/695248029234745
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Swap

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That looks really nice

--FT
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> [0_aLCraNsWJb6_0gl0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD diesel for sale by owner - Kissimmee, FL - 
> craigslist
> orlando.craigslist.org
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Benzing experience

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Many years ago I was coming back from northern Maine not long after Memorial 
Day. 

There was an accident and the whole highway was down to one lane at a walking 
pace. Occasionally somebody would decide they wanted to take the closest exit 
and would slip down the breakdown lane. Just ahead of me were a pair of monster 
5th wheel campers pulled by diesel dually pickups. They decided they'd try the 
breakdown lane trick.

It'd been a wet spring and the shoulder was soft. No problem for a car, just 
stay on the pavement. Well the wheels of that big camper hit the soft shoulder 
and it started to slide. It went slow but steady, I couldn't believe the driver 
kept driving but I guess he thought he could save it. By the time he decided he 
couldn't it was too late and the whole rig slid slowly into the ditch, the 
right side of the camper completely buried in the muck.

His buddy steered back into the travel lane and never stopped...

-Curt


On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 05:33:36 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





So there’s not a lot of drama with having contention with other vehicles.
> And I can keep a good stopping distance ahead of me.
>

Both important points.  There can also be sudden wind surprises.  I know I
see a lot of guys blasting past me
in what look like brand-new muscle-bound pickup trucks towing what look
like brand-new very large RV's.
Going faster than anybody else, whipping in and out of traffic, etc.  I'm
guessing that they're new to towing.
Accidents waiting to happen if you ask me.

Once saw a nice new big RV on its side on the freeway, with the new towing
truck also tipped over on its side.
Stater said it was due to too much speed on the corner, probably
exacerbated by wind, and maybe evasion/braking
due to the onramp that was right there too.  Had plenty of time to chat,
while the road was closed.


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Benzing experience

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I can feel the GL and trailer both getting buffeted by the bow wake of semis. 

--FT
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> On Oct 21, 2023, at 5:33 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
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> 
> So there’s not a lot of drama with having contention with other vehicles.
>> And I can keep a good stopping distance ahead of me.
>> 
> 
> Both important points.  There can also be sudden wind surprises.  I know I
> see a lot of guys blasting past me
> in what look like brand-new muscle-bound pickup trucks towing what look
> like brand-new very large RV's.
> Going faster than anybody else, whipping in and out of traffic, etc.  I'm
> guessing that they're new to towing.
> Accidents waiting to happen if you ask me.
> 
> Once saw a nice new big RV on its side on the freeway, with the new towing
> truck also tipped over on its side.
> Stater said it was due to too much speed on the corner, probably
> exacerbated by wind, and maybe evasion/braking
> due to the onramp that was right there too.  Had plenty of time to chat,
> while the road was closed.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Benzing experience

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On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, at 16:32, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

> Both important points.  There can also be sudden wind surprises.  I know I
> see a lot of guys blasting past me
> in what look like brand-new muscle-bound pickup trucks towing what look
> like brand-new very large RV's.
> Going faster than anybody else, whipping in and out of traffic, etc.  I'm
> guessing that they're new to towing.
> Accidents waiting to happen if you ask me.

Agree, and many of those RV trailers don't really weigh very much. Stick 
framing and plywood with fiberglass paneling on frame made from angle-iron. 
That doesn't help in a gusting crosswind.

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Benzing experience

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

So there’s not a lot of drama with having contention with other vehicles.
> And I can keep a good stopping distance ahead of me.
>

Both important points.  There can also be sudden wind surprises.  I know I
see a lot of guys blasting past me
in what look like brand-new muscle-bound pickup trucks towing what look
like brand-new very large RV's.
Going faster than anybody else, whipping in and out of traffic, etc.  I'm
guessing that they're new to towing.
Accidents waiting to happen if you ask me.

Once saw a nice new big RV on its side on the freeway, with the new towing
truck also tipped over on its side.
Stater said it was due to too much speed on the corner, probably
exacerbated by wind, and maybe evasion/braking
due to the onramp that was right there too.  Had plenty of time to chat,
while the road was closed.

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I have found that a tad below 70, so like 68 or 69 is kind of a sweet spot as I 
am just a bit slower than the speed limit so I’m not having to pass a lot of 
other vehicles except for the occasional semi. So there’s not a lot of drama 
with having contention with other vehicles. And I can keep a good stopping 
distance ahead of me. 

--FT
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> 
>> 
>> 
>> ...in the GL450 towing the car at 70ish most of the way...
>> 
> 
> That sounds a bit fast for towing.  (Heavy, awkward.  Perhaps relatively
> unfamiliar with, compared to normal driving?)
> It's a bit of a hot button with me.
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>
> ...in the GL450 towing the car at 70ish most of the way...
>

That sounds a bit fast for towing.  (Heavy, awkward.  Perhaps relatively
unfamiliar with, compared to normal driving?)
It's a bit of a hot button with me.

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Final negotiated price was...

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> bit of negotiation. I mostly wanted the AMG wheels (with 10yo Continental
> tars with some usable tread) for the 92 400E but it has other good bits too
> and the catholic conversions are still on it.  It’s not in bad shape but
> apparently the engine was not running.  Overall I guess it wasn’t a bad
> deal, a bit more than I would generally pay but the wheels are worth a good
> amount. They’ll need new paint but weren’t dinged.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/345688404493236/?mibextid=6ojiHh
>
> The guy was really nice and said he was restoring a 190E Cosworth that was
> at a buddy’s shop having some engine work done. Showed me a picture of it,
> looked really nice. He teaches auto body work at the local community
> college there. I wish he was closer!
>
> His wife came out and we were chatting and asked where I was from. I told
> her and the guy says he did some body work on a VW bus he sold to a guy
> called Derek from there. Turns out Derek is a friend of mine. The guy shows
> me this old video of them coming to pick up the bus. That was really cool.
> Small world.
>
> I’ll have to come back up to pick up the E420 next weekend as I’ve got the
> $600 99E320 on the trailer and going to Bristol TN tomorrow to swap it for
> a crank no start 06E350 in very nice condition with AMG stuff and they’re
> giving me $500 too. Good deal!  I’m taking a crank position sensor to swap
> onto it to see if maybe that’s what’s keeping it from starting. I’m not
> sure the balance shaft has failed on it but maybe.
>
> Got 13.2mpg in the GL450 towing the car at 70ish most of the way to my
> daughter’s about 220mi. That’s down from 19-20 it generally gets. Will be
> worse tomorrow in the mountains.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- transmission issues -- SLK 230,$1,000

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Ok 722.6 that’s what I was thinking. I sent a msg have not heard back. 
Connector might be buggered or the TCM was bad to begin with or fluid leak not 
the trans. Likely nothing significant esp if some jackleg mech was doing the 
work. I could probably get it sorted in the driveway. 

It’s maybe 4hr away but could be worth the trip. Quick fix and easy flip. I 
really can’t fit in those things so of no particular interest as a fun driver. 

--FT
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> 
> On 2023-08-07 11:01, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> This could be a good deal.  I wonder if it needs to be coded or adapted to 
>> the car
> 
> That's a first gen SLK (R170), so I believe they're all 722.6.
> Should be straightforward.
> Ran after swapped, then quit working properly.
> Either defective conductor plate, oily TCU, or installer error most likely.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- transmission issues -- SLK 230,$1,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I had people loballing me on my $400 Focus parts car. It seems that the lower 
the asking price, the more the cheapskates come out of the woodwork.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, at 10:30, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Probably, but that should be a $100 bill at the dealer.
>
> $1000 car, no lo ballers, funny.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- transmission issues -- SLK 230,$1,000

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On 2023-08-07 11:01, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
This could be a good deal.  I wonder if it needs to be coded or adapted 
to the car


That's a first gen SLK (R170), so I believe they're all 722.6.
Should be straightforward.
Ran after swapped, then quit working properly.
Either defective conductor plate, oily TCU, or installer error most 
likely.




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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- transmission issues -- SLK 230,$1,000

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Probably, but that should be a $100 bill at the dealer.

$1000 car, no lo ballers, funny.

-D

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> This could be a good deal.  I wonder if it needs to be coded or adapted to 
> the car
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/600690908886063/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- S350 -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz s-class,$2,600

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What's the catch?

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Great pics.  I don't recall seeing many of these, usually 430s or 500s.
> Bad 350?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

If the car has been sitting unused and not running for some time and is a
gas car, which means the last tank was most likely ethanol fuel, the tank
will be loaded with "ethanol varnish" and the fuel system will be plugged
with it. Expect to have to do a fuel tank removal and cleaning, all
fuel lines, complete engine fuel delivery system replacement, or [if
possible] rebuild...
$$$ .. to do all this??? Your best guess.. still won't be enough, most
likely.
But, if it's nice enough car to warrant that level of work.. and cheap
enough to warrant that level of further investment.. you might just get
lucky.
Good luck..

On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 6:02 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing to it, and
> she wants me to make an offer.
> What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?
> And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat
> and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too
> critical, could be a fun project. You should get it.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> On Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light
> on what is wrong with it.
> Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics.
> I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be
> the issue.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/
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>
>
> I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

come on man, that's a good deal and would be fun to do something 
different.  Don't be crotchety old fart!


--FT

On 6/10/23 8:51 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
I did some soul searching and I just don’t have the desire to mess 
with a gasser. Now if this went klatta klatta, I be on it like 
a….well, you know.
If anyone thinks they need this, I could be persuaded to fetch it for 
you since she seems to be willing to let it go so cheaply, but again, 
not having laid eyes on it coupled with a clueless seller you never know.


AZBob

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On Jun 9, 2023, at 7:57 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 Exactly

--FT
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On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 It’s a three hour drive to see it. If I could see it in person it 
would be evident if it was sad paint or just wicked dirty.
If she’ll take <$1000 for it, I suppose it would be an air up the 
tires when you get there and get it on a trailer and check it out 
more closely when you get home kinda deal.


AZBob

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On Jun 9, 2023, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 The paint looks rough but maybe it’s just dirty?  Interior nice 
though. Offer $800 settle on $1k?  Even $1200 is not unreasonable 
but ya gotta do some shrewd negotiating


--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Jun 9, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing 
to it, and she wants me to make an offer.

What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?
And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers.

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can 
overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it 
it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should 
get it.


--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can 
shed light on what is wrong with it.

Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics.
I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically 
could be the issue.


AZBob

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I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”?

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting...

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I did some soul searching and I just don’t have the desire to mess with a gasser. Now if this went klatta klatta, I be on it like a….well, you know. If anyone thinks they need this, I could be persuaded to fetch it for you since she seems to be willing to let it go so cheaply, but again, not having laid eyes on it coupled with a clueless seller you never know.AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 7:57 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:Exactly --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 10:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:It’s a three hour drive to see it. If I could see it in person it would be evident if it was sad paint or just wicked dirty. If she’ll take <$1000 for it, I suppose it would be an air up the tires when you get there and get it on a trailer and check it out more closely when you get home kinda deal.  AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:The paint looks rough but maybe it’s just dirty?  Interior nice though. Offer $800 settle on $1k?  Even $1200 is not unreasonable but ya gotta do some shrewd negotiating --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing to it, and she wants me to make an offer. What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should get it. --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light on what is wrong with it. Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics. I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be the issue. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/ I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 
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Exactly --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 10:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:It’s a three hour drive to see it. If I could see it in person it would be evident if it was sad paint or just wicked dirty. If she’ll take <$1000 for it, I suppose it would be an air up the tires when you get there and get it on a trailer and check it out more closely when you get home kinda deal.  AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:The paint looks rough but maybe it’s just dirty?  Interior nice though. Offer $800 settle on $1k?  Even $1200 is not unreasonable but ya gotta do some shrewd negotiating --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing to it, and she wants me to make an offer. What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should get it. --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light on what is wrong with it. Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics. I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be the issue. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/ I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 
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It’s a three hour drive to see it. If I could see it in person it would be evident if it was sad paint or just wicked dirty. If she’ll take <$1000 for it, I suppose it would be an air up the tires when you get there and get it on a trailer and check it out more closely when you get home kinda deal.  AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:The paint looks rough but maybe it’s just dirty?  Interior nice though. Offer $800 settle on $1k?  Even $1200 is not unreasonable but ya gotta do some shrewd negotiating --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing to it, and she wants me to make an offer. What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should get it. --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light on what is wrong with it. Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics. I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be the issue. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/ I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 
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The paint looks rough but maybe it’s just dirty?  Interior nice though. Offer $800 settle on $1k?  Even $1200 is not unreasonable but ya gotta do some shrewd negotiating --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing to it, and she wants me to make an offer. What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should get it. --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light on what is wrong with it. Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics. I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be the issue. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/ I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 
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The seller says her son has no time for it, he has done nothing to it, and she wants me to make an offer. What’s a fair offer seeing how seemingly good it appears?And again, I have a very small knowledge base for gassers. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 8:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should get it. --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light on what is wrong with it. Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics. I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be the issue. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/ I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 
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That would be a good acquisition. M110 engine is solid but can overheat and blow the head gasket (ask how I know!). I doubt it it is anything too critical, could be a fun project. You should get it. --FTSent from iFōnOn Jun 9, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I’m going to engage in messaging this person. Hopeful they can shed light on what is wrong with it. Wicked low mileage and it looks awesome from the few pics. I’ve never had a gasser so I have no idea of what historically could be the issue. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, azbob...@gmail.com wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/203362438829285/ I wonder what happened that it “needs a fuel system”? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 
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The engine must be ok!  To/from the NE?  But that still wouldn’t account for 
300kmi

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> On Jun 3, 2023, at 12:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> A 2007 ML that has nearly 300k on the clock!
> 
> 
> [00o0o_1mlVEKtWu1P_0dm09Y_600x450.jpg]
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Yeah that makes sense

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> On Jun 3, 2023, at 3:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
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> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 14:55:19 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> The engine must be ok!  To/from the NE?  But that still wouldn’t
>> account for 300kmi
> 
> That's 18538 miles/year, 1545 miles/month. For a 5-day work week drive,
> 260 times per year, that's 71.3 miles/day.
> 
> If I worked in Albuquerque, I would drive that amount every day, and some
> more on Sunday and Saturday.
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> So, very doable.
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> The engine must be ok!  To/from the NE?  But that still wouldn’t
> account for 300kmi

That's 18538 miles/year, 1545 miles/month. For a 5-day work week drive,
260 times per year, that's 71.3 miles/day.

If I worked in Albuquerque, I would drive that amount every day, and some
more on Sunday and Saturday.

So, very doable.


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The engine must be ok!  To/from the NE?  But that still wouldn’t account for 
300kmi

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> 
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> [00o0o_1mlVEKtWu1P_0dm09Y_600x450.jpg]
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting interior -- 1993 Mercedes-Benz 190 e,$500

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On 2023-05-21 12:34, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I wonder if this is stock or has been modified.  Whichever, it looks 
pretty good


$500 or OBO Mechanic Special. Runs

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/215147237976137


Sold. Didn't notice a Sportline badge on the fender, but the seats are 
shaped like Sportline or 2.3-16 seats. I don't know if any Sportline 
seats had red trim, 2.3-16 did not.


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting interior -- 1993 Mercedes-Benz 190 e,$500

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Not stock

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> I wonder if this is stock or has been modified.  Whichever, it looks pretty 
> good
> 
> $500 or OBO Mechanic Special. Runs
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Car Trauma

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Post was deleted.

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> For $800 that could be a fun topless beater
>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Car Trauma

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For $800 that could be a fun topless beater

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting article about EVs

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Imagine that, the Natural Law of Unintended Consequences rules, yet again.


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> https://jalopnik.com/stellantis-ceo-tavares-earth-not-enough-lithium-for-evs-1850281500
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting color combo 2010 mercedes benz e350 4matic

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Could be Palladium silver. Very attractive. Not sure about the name of the
interior color but it looks good

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> I kinda like it
>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting car -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300SE 5-Speed Manual

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Says it's a Euro version. Instrumentation is also metric.

Manuals are much more popular in Europe, guessing there are a lot of manual 
options that were never offerd in North America.


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> On 2022-04-19 09:56, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://thembmarket.com/1992-mercedes-benz-300se-5-speed-manual
>
> Dogleg?
> Did they use the gearbox from the 190E 2.5-16 Evolution?
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting car -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 300SE 5-Speed Manual

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On 2022-04-19 09:56, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://thembmarket.com/1992-mercedes-benz-300se-5-speed-manual


Dogleg?
Did they use the gearbox from the 190E 2.5-16 Evolution?

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting, not a SDL -- 1991 Mercedes Benz 350 SD TURBO SEDAN - $8, 700

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  Ask for a list of what needs correcting.

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> But crackhead price, It does look pretty nice though
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting picture

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"Converted to veggie oil but blew the head."

I'm not sure I want to go there...

--FT

On 1/3/22 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Not really sure what they're 
selling:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/438458564429569/
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Trivia

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Talking to this guy at LKQ today he says his nephew (who is also A parts puller 
there) bought a 2010 E430 (I think that was it) from a guy who brought it in to 
sell as the air shocks (which I guess the car has) were collapsed and he didn’t 
want to pay for new ones so he was going to sell it to LKQ. The nephew bought 
it from him for $700. They were going to fix it this afternoon with shocks from 
somewhere, then flip it. If it’s in decent shape that’s probably $6-7k at 
least. 

--FT
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> Yes CFC really screwed up the used car business even to this day. 
> 
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>>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 8:02 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2021-10-23 08:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Got this from the monthly Rock Auto newsletter:
>>> "Why is it harder to buy (newer) used cars built between 2009 and 2011
>>> than it is to buy (older) used cars built between 2005 and 2007?"
>>> "About 25% fewer new cars were sold from 2009-2011 compared to
>>> 2005-2007. Fewer new cars sold back then means fewer used cars
>>> available today.”
>>> Interesting.
>> 
>> Did Cash for Clunkers have any lasting effect on the supply of turn of the 
>> century vehicles? I suppose that by now, anything that wasn't too expensive 
>> for CFC in 2009 would be considered scrap today if it wasn't scrapped in 
>> 2009.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Trivia

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It was a perfect storm, generated by the brains of those who lobby
congress... The great crash of 2008 left people out of work, broke, and
underwater on their house mortgages. They were not able to buy a new car
when the garage they would keep it in was in foreclosure.
Then, CFC program came out to sweep available cheap cars off the trading
floor and "stimulate" new car sales [remember Chevy was bankrupt?, and
Chrysler? Ford was the only car company with its head above water [barely]
 Banks would not make car loans unless you were so rich you didn't need
one, because they were busted and living on "bailout money".
To force new car sales [stimulate was the magic word used] the government
bought and crushed anything that would run or tow into the CFC lot.
2009 through 2011 were lean years for car sales... and everyone else...
Then, slowly, people went back to work, banks loaned money, houses built
and sold, new cars
It's been a hard run since 2008 and the fallout is still falling out.
$10.00 per gallon gas [coming real soon] is another social engineering
program to stimulate EV car sales. [That magic word again "stimulate"] ...
more electric generation ignored to feed those EV cars..
Reporter: Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between ignorance and genius?
Dr. Einstein: There is no shortage of ignorance.

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> Yes CFC really screwed up the used car business even to this day.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-10-23 08:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Got this from the monthly Rock Auto newsletter:
> >> "Why is it harder to buy (newer) used cars built between 2009 and 2011
> >> than it is to buy (older) used cars built between 2005 and 2007?"
> >> "About 25% fewer new cars were sold from 2009-2011 compared to
> >> 2005-2007. Fewer new cars sold back then means fewer used cars
> >> available today.”
> >> Interesting.
> >
> > Did Cash for Clunkers have any lasting effect on the supply of turn of
> the century vehicles? I suppose that by now, anything that wasn't too
> expensive for CFC in 2009 would be considered scrap today if it wasn't
> scrapped in 2009.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Trivia

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Yes CFC really screwed up the used car business even to this day. 

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> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-10-23 08:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Got this from the monthly Rock Auto newsletter:
>> "Why is it harder to buy (newer) used cars built between 2009 and 2011
>> than it is to buy (older) used cars built between 2005 and 2007?"
>> "About 25% fewer new cars were sold from 2009-2011 compared to
>> 2005-2007. Fewer new cars sold back then means fewer used cars
>> available today.”
>> Interesting.
> 
> Did Cash for Clunkers have any lasting effect on the supply of turn of the 
> century vehicles? I suppose that by now, anything that wasn't too expensive 
> for CFC in 2009 would be considered scrap today if it wasn't scrapped in 2009.
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Trivia

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On 2021-10-23 08:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Got this from the monthly Rock Auto newsletter:

"Why is it harder to buy (newer) used cars built between 2009 and 2011
than it is to buy (older) used cars built between 2005 and 2007?"

"About 25% fewer new cars were sold from 2009-2011 compared to
2005-2007. Fewer new cars sold back then means fewer used cars
available today.”

Interesting.


Did Cash for Clunkers have any lasting effect on the supply of turn of 
the century vehicles? I suppose that by now, anything that wasn't too 
expensive for CFC in 2009 would be considered scrap today if it wasn't 
scrapped in 2009.


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Re: [MBZ] interesting color combo 1989 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE,$2,000

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And what was the MOST marketable?

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> Considered on of the least marketable color combinations of the time.
>
> -D
>
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> > maroon interior in silver car, I'm not sure it works but there it is
> >
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Re: [MBZ] interesting color combo 1989 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE,$2,000

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Considered on of the least marketable color combinations of the time.

-D

> On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> maroon interior in silver car, I'm not sure it works but there it is
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/265090048849825
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Re: [MBZ] interesting color combo 1989 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE,$2,000

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It's amazingly cheap for such a good looking car.  And it's a Marzeedez!

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> maroon interior in silver car, I'm not sure it works but there it is
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/265090048849825
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting experience and commentary on electric cars

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Thanks - very informative.

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> This guy took his Porch Taycan from London to the Nurburgring and
> chronicled his experience.  Interesting commentary on electrics at about
> 15min
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R13ddXJMR6s
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting power thingie

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that would probably work too if the cig socket is not switched

--FT
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> On Aug 6, 2021, at 12:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Aren't those wires also live when using the ODB port to power the system?
> The battery in a trunk you can't open does require something like the ODB
> port, but I wonder if the lighter socket won't do the same thing?
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 11:05 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> True, but this is far more elegant of an approach, especially if you’re
>> changing a battery. You would be wrestling live battery cables around the
>> engine compartment while you’re trying to swap a battery.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:39 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just use standard jumper cables from the extra battery to the
>>> battery cables in the car - no need for another device to lose 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I like this one that has just clips and a voltage display and fuse $11
 
 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000870058429.html
 
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> There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for
>> the
 battery connection, too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy
>> in
 a vid use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will
>> also
 maintain all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You
>> can
 (maybe) connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am
 going to order one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?
>> 
>> $19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI
>> 
>> $15 at Uncle Xi's store.
 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting power thingie

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Aren't those wires also live when using the ODB port to power the system?
The battery in a trunk you can't open does require something like the ODB
port, but I wonder if the lighter socket won't do the same thing?

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 11:05 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> True, but this is far more elegant of an approach, especially if you’re
> changing a battery. You would be wrestling live battery cables around the
> engine compartment while you’re trying to swap a battery.
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:39 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Just use standard jumper cables from the extra battery to the
> > battery cables in the car - no need for another device to lose 
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like this one that has just clips and a voltage display and fuse $11
> >>
> >> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000870058429.html
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 8/6/21 10:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for
> the
> >> battery connection, too.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy
> in
> >> a vid use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will
> also
> >> maintain all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You
> can
> >> (maybe) connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am
> >> going to order one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?
> 
>  $19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI
> 
>  $15 at Uncle Xi's store.
> >> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting power thingie

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The issue this can address is inability to access the battery in the trunk. I 
ordered one from Uncle XI for $11

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> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:40 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just use standard jumper cables from the extra battery to the
> battery cables in the car - no need for another device to lose 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I like this one that has just clips and a voltage display and fuse $11
>> 
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000870058429.html
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 8/6/21 10:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for the
>> battery connection, too.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy in
>> a vid use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will also
>> maintain all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You can
>> (maybe) connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am
>> going to order one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?
 
 $19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI
 
 $15 at Uncle Xi's store.
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html
 
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True, but this is far more elegant of an approach, especially if you’re 
changing a battery. You would be wrestling live battery cables around the 
engine compartment while you’re trying to swap a battery.

-D

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 11:39 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just use standard jumper cables from the extra battery to the
> battery cables in the car - no need for another device to lose 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I like this one that has just clips and a voltage display and fuse $11
>> 
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000870058429.html
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 8/6/21 10:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for the
>> battery connection, too.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy in
>> a vid use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will also
>> maintain all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You can
>> (maybe) connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am
>> going to order one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?
 
 $19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI
 
 $15 at Uncle Xi's store.
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting power thingie

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Just use standard jumper cables from the extra battery to the
battery cables in the car - no need for another device to lose 

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I like this one that has just clips and a voltage display and fuse $11
>
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000870058429.html
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/6/21 10:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for the
> battery connection, too.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy in
> a vid use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will also
> maintain all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You can
> (maybe) connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am
> going to order one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?
> >>
> >> $19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI
> >>
> >> $15 at Uncle Xi's store.
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting power thingie

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I like this one that has just clips and a voltage display and fuse $11

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000870058429.html

--FT

On 8/6/21 10:14 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for the 
battery connection, too.

-D


On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy in a vid 
use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will also maintain 
all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You can (maybe) 
connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am going to order 
one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?

$19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI

$15 at Uncle Xi's store. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting power thingie

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There are some less expensive ones that just use alligator clips for the 
battery connection, too.

-D

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Plugs into OBD port.  Puts some electrons into the system, saw a guy in a vid 
> use it to pop the trunk on a W220 with a dead battery, it will also maintain 
> all your settings when you disconnect the main battery.  You can (maybe) 
> connect to a jump pack or some other 12V source.  I think I am going to order 
> one, Bozos or Uncle Xi?
> 
> $19 at Bozos's store. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MPY0DNI
> 
> $15 at Uncle Xi's store. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32809951094.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting headlight fix

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On 2021-05-14 15:20, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
I think coupe windshield is the same as sedan. Coupe is different from  
A

pillar back.


That's what I thought.
My earlier comment was based on the idea that I would not want to part 
that car out.
I'd gladly part out a 300D to save it, I wouldn't part it out to save a 
300D.


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting headlight fix

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I think coupe windshield is the same as sedan. Coupe is different from  A
pillar back.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, May 14, 2021, 1:43 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> Does a coupe use a coupe only windshield?  I thought only the rear window
> was coupe specific..
> Someone set me straight on that detail please.
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:18 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
> > On 2021-05-13 22:48, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Parts. I need a windshield.
> >
> > Front windshield?
> > Lots of better places to get one of those than from a rust free coupe
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If the body is in decent shape that could be a reasonable price for a coupé

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> On May 13, 2021, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting headlight fix

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Yes.


Rick

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Does a coupe use a coupe only windshield?  I thought only the rear window
was coupe specific..
Someone set me straight on that detail please.

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> On 2021-05-13 22:48, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > Parts. I need a windshield.
>
> Front windshield?
> Lots of better places to get one of those than from a rust free coupe
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting headlight fix

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Does a coupe use a coupe only windshield?  I thought only the rear window
was coupe specific..
Someone set me straight on that detail please.

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> On 2021-05-13 22:48, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
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>
> Front windshield?
> Lots of better places to get one of those than from a rust free coupe
> with decent paint.
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

You've got a good point.


Rick

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On 2021-05-13 22:48, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Parts. I need a windshield.

Front windshield?
Lots of better places to get one of those than from a rust free coupe
with decent paint.

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On 2021-05-13 22:48, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Parts. I need a windshield.


Front windshield?
Lots of better places to get one of those than from a rust free coupe 
with decent paint.


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting headlight fix

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Parts. I need a windshield.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Interesting headlight fix

1982 Mercedes diesel

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bar/d/granbury-1982-mercedes-diesel/7321284343.html


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You going to buy it?

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> 1982 Mercedes diesel
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting tidbit

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I suspect that they are talking about the back of the differential 
facing the back bumper.
It does not need to be removable because the front of the differential 
is removable along with the gears.

I wonder if their replacement cover just glues on over the rusted out piece?

Randy


On 12/02/2021 11:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

One of the pieces of literature I got from O'Reilly Auto Parts recently
is a brochure highlighting Dorman's "OE Fix" series of parts, which are
re-engineered to solve problems with factory parts.

In that brochure, I learned the differential covers for Toyota 4Runner,
FJ Cruiser, Tacoma, and Tundra vehicles are welded in place. The problem
with the factory parts is they are made of thin-gauge stamped steel,
which lets rust eat away faster than other areas.

Their fix was to make a replacement cover with thicker steel -- not what
I would consider a lifetime fix, but since there were no replacement
covers available before they introduced their part, I guess it's an
improvement.

I do, though, find it amazing any manufacturer would weld differential
covers in place!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting tidbit

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Craig via Mercedes  writes:

> I do, though, find it amazing any manufacturer would weld differential
> covers in place!

As long as it lasts through the warranty

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- 1984 Mercedes 300CD Turbo Diesel Coupe 300D - $3, 500 (Willow Spring)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Dreaming.  Has over 360K miles and needs a repaint.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 9:47 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Aside from the repaint looks pretty nice
>
>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/willow-spring-1984-mercedes-300cd-turbo/7183292714.html
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting -- 1976 Mercedes-Benz 280s Sedan,$1,300

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Quite possibly the lousiest model they ever made.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:27 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Interior color: Pink
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/144883966301
>
> 1976 Mercedes-Benz 280s Sedan
> $1,300
> Vehicles 
> Listed about an hour ago in Loganville, GA
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 270,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Tan ·
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> Excellent condition <
> https://www.facebook.com/business/help/979881538883930>
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> Runs good clean title
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting information from Google

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> G wrote:

> I feel so safe and un-molested now that a major company, with a
> history of closing access to anyone who doesn't fit their
> specific algorithm is tracking my every keystroke, then selling
> my information for profit.without my knowledge or
> permission...don't you?

Well, it is not without permission.  If you read the fine print
that you agree to, it covers that stuff.  At least Google is
better than Apple or Microsoft - who don't say what they gather,
or how the use it...  Nor does Google make a user agree to NOT try
to bypass or shutoff such activities.

Seems most folks are happy to trade convenience for privacy.

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting information from Google

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I just looked, there were only 5 data points for a limited time (mostly 
specific days recently), one at Lowes, 2 at road intersections, one in 
the middle of the airport here, and one at the beach.  On another day it 
had me at home.  I'm thinking that this is when you might use Google 
Maps or something, I don't know where they get the info.  I shut most of 
that location stuff off on my phone, it seems to work.  It is kinda 
creepy though.


-_FT

On 12/20/19 2:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 12:50:20 -0700 Craig  wrote:


So, if you allow it, I presume, Google can track where you have been in
addition to where you are.

Sorry, I forgot to include another part of the page:

 See your travels

 You can see how far you travelled and the way you travelled from place
 to place, like walking, biking, driving, or public transportation.
 Whether Timeline measures distances in miles or kilometers is based on
 your country.

 1. On your computer, open Google Maps.
 2. Sign in with the same Google Account you use on your mobile
device.
 3. In the top left, click Menu Menu.
 4. Click Timeline Timeline.
 5. To see another date, at the top, choose a day, month, and year.

 Tip: To see places that you've visited recently, click Menu Menu
 and then Your places and then Visited.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting information from Google

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

It is all in the fine print somewhere. Whenever you use any sort of 
software, there is an offer to let you read the rules and a button that 
lets you say "I Agree" without having to read it all. Do you know anyone 
who reads it? It is not like they give you any choice if you need or 
want the use of the software.



On 20/12/2019 4:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Legally, I believe that qualifies as a "Contract of Adhesion". Which is
illegal and specifically forbidden.
Both parties must be fully informed and freely enter into said contract...
Failure to inform one party, or coerce entry, voids any contract.
But, I only observe and judge, not advise. YMMV




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