Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-25 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-07-25 09:32, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Sunroofs are great for transporting long pieces of lumber which do not
fit in a sedan!


I once put 7 2x4x8s in a 1998 Taurus SE (no sunroof, and worse yet, back 
seat didn't fold.
I got lucky, having bought 7 for a small project before discovering that 
8 would not have been possible to fit in the car. Took a bit of 
maneuvering to get them in and out of the car. Ended up with the front 
ends under the dash and the back ends above the rear shelf, diagonal 
bottom right to top left.


With my folding seat 1997 Achieva, I carried 10' pipes and conduits on 
occasion, but that was easy, tuck the front end under the dash, then 
over the reclined passenger seat, and into the trunk. Again, quantities 
limited to what would go on top of the seat and still fit under the 
dash.


As I type this, my pole saw and a 7' fishing rod are in the Saturn Ion. 
Since they're both skinny and I don't like a sharp saw rolling around, I 
tucked them between the passenger seat and the doors.


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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-25 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Sunroofs are great for transporting long pieces of lumber which do not fit in a 
sedan!

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> On Jul 24, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand the appeal of sunroofs. At least here, they are something 
> I might use a few times a year. They are otherwise just potential sources for 
> leaks and trouble. I would not miss having one in the slightest.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near 
>> $1,000 (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. 
>> While replacing the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just 
>> don’t see the value for the cost.
>> 
>> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back 
>> in position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind 
>> noise. Upon close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof 
>> panel had rolled a bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
>> 
>> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset 
>> the seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that 
>> Mercedes has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now 
>> sealing as intended.
>> 
>> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to 
>> Flagstaff in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to 
>> have him do his magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
my 2005 w211 was checked on that recall. was fine

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 4:53 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Is this car covered by the factory recall to check if it’s gonna fly off
> or was that just 211s?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near
> $1,000 (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. While
> replacing the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just don’t see
> the value for the cost.
> >
> > After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back in
> position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind noise.
> Upon close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof panel had
> rolled a bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
> >
> > This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset the
> seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that
> Mercedes has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now
> sealing as intended.
> >
> > I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to
> Flagstaff in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to have
> him do his magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah I don’t know. When the $900E500 went in for the SBC the stealer checked 
it. I haven’t had the wagon in yet. 

--FT
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> On Jul 24, 2022, at 5:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure that’s W211s only, and even if it was, that was for the roof 
> itself (laminated glass that has separation of the layers) and likely 
> wouldn’t cover the issue that mine has.
> 
> I’ll check just to be sure, though.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is this car covered by the factory recall to check if it’s gonna fly off or 
>> was that just 211s?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near $1,000 
>>> (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. While replacing 
>>> the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just don’t see the value 
>>> for the cost.
>>> 
>>> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back in 
>>> position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind noise. 
>>> Upon close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof panel had 
>>> rolled a bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
>>> 
>>> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset the 
>>> seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that 
>>> Mercedes has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now 
>>> sealing as intended.
>>> 
>>> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to Flagstaff 
>>> in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to have him do his 
>>> magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Pretty sure that’s W211s only, and even if it was, that was for the roof itself 
(laminated glass that has separation of the layers) and likely wouldn’t cover 
the issue that mine has.

I’ll check just to be sure, though.

-D

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is this car covered by the factory recall to check if it’s gonna fly off or 
> was that just 211s?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near $1,000 
>> (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. While replacing 
>> the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just don’t see the value 
>> for the cost.
>> 
>> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back in 
>> position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind noise. Upon 
>> close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof panel had rolled a 
>> bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
>> 
>> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset the 
>> seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that Mercedes 
>> has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now sealing as 
>> intended.
>> 
>> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to Flagstaff 
>> in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to have him do his 
>> magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Is this car covered by the factory recall to check if it’s gonna fly off or was 
that just 211s?

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near $1,000 
> (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. While replacing 
> the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just don’t see the value 
> for the cost.
> 
> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back in 
> position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind noise. Upon 
> close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof panel had rolled a bit 
> in the center rear where it meets the roof.
> 
> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset the 
> seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that Mercedes 
> has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now sealing as 
> intended.
> 
> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to Flagstaff in 
> August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to have him do his 
> magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Now that I have a MIG welder, and am reasonably competent with it, a
sunroof would get welded closed.  We special ordered the Subauru to get one
without a factory hole in the roof.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 1:16 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Same here.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 24, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't understand the appeal of sunroofs. At least here, they are
> something I might use a few times a year. They are otherwise just potential
> sources for leaks and trouble. I would not miss having one in the slightest.
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near
> >> $1,000 (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550.
> >> While replacing the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just
> >> don’t see the value for the cost.
> >>
> >> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back
> >> in position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind
> >> noise. Upon close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof
> >> panel had rolled a bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
> >>
> >> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset
> >> the seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that
> >> Mercedes has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now
> >> sealing as intended.
> >>
> >> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to
> >> Flagstaff in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to
> >> have him do his magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Same here.

-D

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand the appeal of sunroofs. At least here, they are something 
> I might use a few times a year. They are otherwise just potential sources for 
> leaks and trouble. I would not miss having one in the slightest.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near 
>> $1,000 (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. 
>> While replacing the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just 
>> don’t see the value for the cost.
>> 
>> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back 
>> in position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind 
>> noise. Upon close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof 
>> panel had rolled a bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
>> 
>> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset 
>> the seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that 
>> Mercedes has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now 
>> sealing as intended.
>> 
>> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to 
>> Flagstaff in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to 
>> have him do his magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ML550 Sunroof

2022-07-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I don't understand the appeal of sunroofs. At least here, they are something I 
might use a few times a year. They are otherwise just potential sources for 
leaks and trouble. I would not miss having one in the slightest.


On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, at 12:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I have come to the conclusion that I’m not going to bear the near 
> $1,000 (parts) expense for the repair of the sunroof in the ML550. 
> While replacing the headliner would be the ideal time to do it, I just 
> don’t see the value for the cost.
>
> After I had finished tinkering with it a few weeks ago, I got it back 
> in position but noticed on a highway drive that there was some wind 
> noise. Upon close inspection, I found that the seal on the sunroof 
> panel had rolled a bit in the center rear where it meets the roof.
>
> This morning I got an Allen wrench out and tilted the rear up, reset 
> the seal, and lubed it up with some of the unicorn tears lubricant that 
> Mercedes has for rubber seals. I lowered it back in place and it’s now 
> sealing as intended.
>
> I’m back in Florida for a bit right now, but when I head back to 
> Flagstaff in August I’m going to drop it off with my headliner guy to 
> have him do his magic. And I’ll leave the sunroof motor unplugged.
>
> -D
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