Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
In our case Mrs. Dan had gone through all the motions with this employer, interviewed in person, signed an offer, etc., etc. We spoke to our attorney to see if we could get some relief, even though Kohler covered a portion of our moving costs. He suggested he contact them about recovery of (some) costs as we really had nothing to lose. He later said they must have been concerned about litigation, as they simply threw a number at him and didn’t even ask for an estimate of costs. He asked for a bit more, they split the difference. He got a nice fee for his work and we covered more than our out of pocket costs. -D > On Oct 29, 2021, at 6:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > IMHO, lawsuits are a pain in the wallet with no certain outcome. Time and > effort could be better spent making nice with the old employer, who you > just gave notice to leave, by meeting with them and saying, "With all the > corporate moves being made, and people leaving, I had offers from other > companies who knew of my skills and good work habits and I acted hastily in > accepting one of those offers without giving full consideration to "how > much I like it here, since I know this company inside and out, and the > customers I've serviced for [insert number of years]. Also, it appears > the company will grow stronger with the upcoming corporate merger, and I'd > like to be part of that, with your offer to increase my salary and benefits > which you made. I'd like to withdraw my notice and stay on for the future > growth bla bla bla because I know with leadership like yours > [bullshit on steroids] we will continue to grow. > > You get back in the old saddle and ride sidesaddle [because you know they > will crush your nuts at the first opportunity], while quietly looking for a > "real exit opportunity" that is rock solid and then bail, having packed > your own chute. > [All the above predicated on the unknown fact they have not yet hired your > replacement, in India] > > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> At a minimum, have a chat with a lawyer about the issue. >> >> Randy >> >> >>> On 29/10/2021 4:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: >>> What's the legal catchphrase, detrimental reliance? >>> You took action to your great financial detriment, based on your >>> reliance upon a false promise willfully made by those you're suing... >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
IMHO, lawsuits are a pain in the wallet with no certain outcome. Time and effort could be better spent making nice with the old employer, who you just gave notice to leave, by meeting with them and saying, "With all the corporate moves being made, and people leaving, I had offers from other companies who knew of my skills and good work habits and I acted hastily in accepting one of those offers without giving full consideration to "how much I like it here, since I know this company inside and out, and the customers I've serviced for [insert number of years]. Also, it appears the company will grow stronger with the upcoming corporate merger, and I'd like to be part of that, with your offer to increase my salary and benefits which you made. I'd like to withdraw my notice and stay on for the future growth bla bla bla because I know with leadership like yours [bullshit on steroids] we will continue to grow. You get back in the old saddle and ride sidesaddle [because you know they will crush your nuts at the first opportunity], while quietly looking for a "real exit opportunity" that is rock solid and then bail, having packed your own chute. [All the above predicated on the unknown fact they have not yet hired your replacement, in India] On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:07 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > At a minimum, have a chat with a lawyer about the issue. > > Randy > > > On 29/10/2021 4:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > > What's the legal catchphrase, detrimental reliance? > > You took action to your great financial detriment, based on your > > reliance upon a false promise willfully made by those you're suing... > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
At a minimum, have a chat with a lawyer about the issue. Randy On 29/10/2021 4:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: What's the legal catchphrase, detrimental reliance? You took action to your great financial detriment, based on your reliance upon a false promise willfully made by those you're suing... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
Agreed, very shitty and inexcusable. And actually to Dan's example, if they did cause you a significant loss or expenses by "leading you on" and you acting in good faith based on their offers, there is possibly a civil claim to be made, but I'm not sure that "damaging your reputation with your current employer" qualifies. Allan On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > You are correct on all points. It’s just very very shitty. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > I am guessing OK is an "at-will" employment state. They can hire you today > > and fire you tomorrow for any reason (or no reason). Employees can also > > quit at any time. Unless the offer is an employment contract for a stated > > period of time, I don't think contesting it will go anywhere. > > > > Allan > > > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >> Yes I have it in writing but I’m sure it says something in there about > >> right to rescind etc > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> WH\ho's your lawyer? If you have the offer in writing you can sue them > >>> for breach of contract. > >>> > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:55 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people > Wednesday just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Ouch. > > > > That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking > > to bail. > > > > -D > > > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> Basically yes > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > >>> > >>> So now you have to back down? > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yep > > Sent from my iPhone > > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > >> wrote: > > > > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? > > > > --FT > > Sent from iFōn > > > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them > >> just now rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough > >> business in the pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I > >> have to hope I can stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that > >> interested in that 2nd offer > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
What's the legal catchphrase, detrimental reliance? You took action to your great financial detriment, based on your reliance upon a false promise willfully made by those you're suing... On 2021-10-29 16:11, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: A quick call to our attorney dispatched a letter to the bank’s HR and Legal departments with copies of all the related correspondence, relating that a cross-country move was involved on her part and that she had incurred expenses to relocate for the position. Negotiations between our attorney and the bank commenced shortly after they received the letter. I recall we had a rather nice check from the bank a few weeks later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
You are correct on all points. It’s just very very shitty. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am guessing OK is an "at-will" employment state. They can hire you today > and fire you tomorrow for any reason (or no reason). Employees can also quit > at any time. Unless the offer is an employment contract for a stated period > of time, I don't think contesting it will go anywhere. > > Allan > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Yes I have it in writing but I’m sure it says something in there about right >> to rescind etc >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> >>> >>> WH\ho's your lawyer? If you have the offer in writing you can sue them for >>> breach of contract. >>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:55 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people Wednesday just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ouch. > > That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking > to bail. > > -D > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Basically yes >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> So now you have to back down? >>> >>> -D >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yep Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: > > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just >> now rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business >> in the pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to >> hope I can stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested >> in that 2nd offer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
This happened to Mrs. Dan years ago and actually worked out quite well for us… When I was recruited by Kohler and we moved up to WI, Mrs. Dan worked with a recruiter who landed her a job at a major banking institution. She got all the requisite onboarding letters through her headhunter, etc. She showed up for work the first day and got shuffled into a conference room with the hiring manager, an HR person, and a higher up from management. The higher up apologized profusely and said that they were rescinding the offer of employment as the hiring manager (apparently) had not gotten the proper approvals to hire her. And that was that. A quick call to our attorney dispatched a letter to the bank’s HR and Legal departments with copies of all the related correspondence, relating that a cross-country move was involved on her part and that she had incurred expenses to relocate for the position. Negotiations between our attorney and the bank commenced shortly after they received the letter. I recall we had a rather nice check from the bank a few weeks later. -D > On Oct 29, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > WH\ho's your lawyer? If you have the offer in writing you can sue them for > breach of contract. > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:55 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people >> Wednesday just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ouch. >>> >>> That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking >> to bail. >>> >>> -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
How to demoralize the competition. Make job offers to their managers, get them to quit and come work for you. Then tell them, Friday of the week before they're supposed to start, "just kidding". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
I am guessing OK is an "at-will" employment state. They can hire you today and fire you tomorrow for any reason (or no reason). Employees can also quit at any time. Unless the offer is an employment contract for a stated period of time, I don't think contesting it will go anywhere. Allan On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Yes I have it in writing but I’m sure it says something in there about right > to rescind etc > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > wrote: > > > > > > WH\ho's your lawyer? If you have the offer in writing you can sue them for > > breach of contract. > > > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:55 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people > >> Wednesday just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Ouch. > >> > > >> > That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking > >> > to bail. > >> > > >> > -D > >> > > >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Basically yes > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >> > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> So now you have to back down? > >> >>> > >> >>> -D > >> >>> > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> Yep > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? > >> > > >> > --FT > >> > Sent from iFōn > >> > > >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just > >> >> now rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business > >> >> in the pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to > >> >> hope I can stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested > >> >> in that 2nd offer > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> >>> > >> >>> ___ > >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >>> > >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >>> > >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
Yes I have it in writing but I’m sure it says something in there about right to rescind etc Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > WH\ho's your lawyer? If you have the offer in writing you can sue them for > breach of contract. > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:55 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people Wednesday >> just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > Ouch. >> > >> > That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking to >> > bail. >> > >> > -D >> > >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Basically yes >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> So now you have to back down? >> >>> >> >>> -D >> >>> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yep >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> > >> > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? >> > >> > --FT >> > Sent from iFōn >> > >> >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just >> >> now rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in >> >> the pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I >> >> can stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that >> >> 2nd offer >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >>> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
WH\ho's your lawyer? If you have the offer in writing you can sue them for breach of contract. On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:55 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people > Wednesday just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Ouch. > > > > That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking > to bail. > > > > -D > > > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Basically yes > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> So now you have to back down? > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Yep > > Sent from my iPhone > > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? > > > > --FT > > Sent from iFōn > > > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just > now rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the > pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can stay > where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd offer > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
Yep probably so. I’m screwed. What is sad is I called these people Wednesday just to make sure we were still good to do. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ouch. > > That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking to > bail. > > -D > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Basically yes >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> So now you have to back down? >>> >>> -D >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yep Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: > > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just now >> rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the >> pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can >> stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd >> offer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
On 2021-10-29 14:28, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Ouch. That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking to bail. Either that, or take offer #2 and keep looking to move up elsewhere. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
Ouch. That’s going to suck. You’ve now been branded as someone who is looking to bail. -D > On Oct 29, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Basically yes > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So now you have to back down? >> >> -D >> >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yep >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: WTF? Did you give notice at current job? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just now > rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the > pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can > stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd offer > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
Basically yes Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > So now you have to back down? > > -D > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yep >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> WTF? Did you give notice at current job? >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just now rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can stay where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd offer Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
So now you have to back down? -D > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yep > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> WTF? Did you give notice at current job? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just now >>> rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the >>> pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can stay >>> where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd offer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
Yep Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > WTF? Did you give notice at current job? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just now >> rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the >> pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can stay >> where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd offer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe not worst case scenario but not good
WTF? Did you give notice at current job? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Oct 29, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Supposed to start new job on Tuesday. Received call from them just now > rescinding their offer. Said they did not have enough business in the > pipeline. Holy crap, really? In other words, now I have to hope I can stay > where I’m at as I’m not really all that interested in that 2nd offer > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
