Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
He doesn't have a complete car, but has everything you mentioned and he knows that he will need to have the driveshaft re-done. Thanks for the info on the bolts, I will let him know. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inless he has a whole complete car to do the swap, I dont see it working very easy. He is going to need MUCH more than just the tranny for it to work. He will probably have to have a driveshaft customized to fit since the turbo never came with a manny, trans crossmemeber, shifter, pedal assembly and Im sure other things Im not thinking of. As to the bolts, there are 6 that mount the converter to flywheel, and probably 12 for flywheel to crank. Friend Charlie bought a 5 speed 124 manny tranny off a Euro gasser and wants to put it in his '87 300TD. BUT, he is not sure how many bolts are on the engine (603) flywheel. He said it is going to be 6 or 12, probably. Frankly, I forget how many are on the tranny, I think 6...so he is hoping the answer will be 6. I found pics of various flywheels (Schwungscheibe und Schwungrad) on ebay.de, but none for a 603. It seems that some diesel engines have 12 bolts on the flywheel. A trip to the EPC would answer this question, but I have not subscribed yet. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: not sure, but what do you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
Inless he has a whole complete car to do the swap, I dont see it working very easy. He is going to need MUCH more than just the tranny for it to work. He will probably have to have a driveshaft customized to fit since the turbo never came with a manny, trans crossmemeber, shifter, pedal assembly and Im sure other things Im not thinking of. As to the bolts, there are 6 that mount the converter to flywheel, and probably 12 for flywheel to crank. Friend Charlie bought a 5 speed 124 manny tranny off a Euro gasser and wants to put it in his '87 300TD. BUT, he is not sure how many bolts are on the engine (603) flywheel. He said it is going to be 6 or 12, probably. Frankly, I forget how many are on the tranny, I think 6...so he is hoping the answer will be 6. I found pics of various flywheels (Schwungscheibe und Schwungrad) on ebay.de, but none for a 603. It seems that some diesel engines have 12 bolts on the flywheel. A trip to the EPC would answer this question, but I have not subscribed yet. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure, but what do you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
not sure, but what do you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Tony Wirtel wrote: From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris B?nter u. B?gel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengeh?use Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) Chris- Shouldn't be any different from a 602, which has 6 bolts, paired together and visible through the cutout in the bottom of the block case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Good point- I simply thing of it as a flex plate; didn't have mine off when I redid the trans as the rear seal was dry. Given the weight of the TC empty, what does the flywheel weigh? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
Friend Charlie bought a 5 speed 124 manny tranny off a Euro gasser and wants to put it in his '87 300TD. BUT, he is not sure how many bolts are on the engine (603) flywheel. He said it is going to be 6 or 12, probably. Frankly, I forget how many are on the tranny, I think 6...so he is hoping the answer will be 6. I found pics of various flywheels (Schwungscheibe und Schwungrad) on ebay.de, but none for a 603. It seems that some diesel engines have 12 bolts on the flywheel. A trip to the EPC would answer this question, but I have not subscribed yet. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure, but what do you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
right, not talking about TC. CM Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Tony Wirtel wrote: From: Christopher McCann Subject: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris B?nter u. B?gel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengeh?use Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) Chris- Shouldn't be any different from a 602, which has 6 bolts, paired together and visible through the cutout in the bottom of the block case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris B?nter u. B?gel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengeh?use Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) Chris- Shouldn't be any different from a 602, which has 6 bolts, paired together and visible through the cutout in the bottom of the block case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
