Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
I have a set about like that. Guages have scale for both R12 and 134. The high/low side hoses screw onto 134 fittings. On some cars (mb) these will screw onto the R12 fittings on the car. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Snap-on is excellent. But you won't find (and don't want) a single set for both systems. The oils in particular are not that compatible, the R134a oil attacks R12 oil IIRC. It stinks, but you are going to need two sets if you're going to service mineral-oil systems (R12, and compatible HC replacements) and non-mineral-oil systems. This one claims to handle both: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270153367101 Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Snap-on is excellent. But you won't find (and don't want) a single set for both systems. The oils in particular are not that compatible, the R134a oil attacks R12 oil IIRC. It stinks, but you are going to need two sets if you're going to service mineral-oil systems (R12, and compatible HC replacements) and non-mineral-oil systems. This one claims to handle both: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270153367101 Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
Kaleb, You can do this: Hook the yellow line to a R134a tank but keep the tank valve turned off. Screw a high side R134a adapter onto your recovery system. Attach the gauge high side to the adapter. Attach the gauge low side to the car low side. Open both gauge set valves. Evacuate the system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set No, thats now what Im talking about. Im talking about the screw on fitting you hook the middle yellow line to. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set Take one from one of your cars that has been converted from R12 to R134a On 8/9/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of adaptors, anybody know where I can get an adaptor for the yellow hose to hook R134 guages to my originally R12 recycle machine? It has the R12 side fitting on the front of the machine to hook guages to, need an adaptor so I can hook my R134 guages to it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
No, thats now what Im talking about. Im talking about the screw on fitting you hook the middle yellow line to. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set Take one from one of your cars that has been converted from R12 to R134a On 8/9/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of adaptors, anybody know where I can get an adaptor for the yellow hose to hook R134 guages to my originally R12 recycle machine? It has the R12 side fitting on the front of the machine to hook guages to, need an adaptor so I can hook my R134 guages to it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
Yea, I could do it that way. Right now, I have a set of R12 guages I am using with 134 high and low sides connectors. The R12 center line will hook to the machine. If I want to ad refrigerant from a 134 tank, I take one of the lines off of a different guage set which seems to fit both size fittings and that works. Would rather just get an adaptor for the machine and do it the right way though. May end up just selling this R12 machine and buying one already setup for 134 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set Kaleb, You can do this: Hook the yellow line to a R134a tank but keep the tank valve turned off. Screw a high side R134a adapter onto your recovery system. Attach the gauge high side to the adapter. Attach the gauge low side to the car low side. Open both gauge set valves. Evacuate the system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
I had one of those hoses with a gauge that broke (the end that goes on the can was plastic, it gets cold...), got another one that is all brass fittings at O'Reilly's. THey also had a set of high/low gauges there too. For some reason most of their AC stuff was not on shelves, but the guy had it on the racks in back. --R Allan Streib wrote: Went to put a can of R134a in my wife's car last night, and could not find the cheapo tap and hose that I bought for this at Autozone or someplace. Thinking of buying a set of proper service gauges -- so I can see the high and low side, etc. There is a Snap-On set on eBay right now, any thoughts on that or other brands? I'd like one that is R12 and R134a capable, and has a vacuum connection. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
If you buy a good set, you won't be sorry. for occasional use the cheap ones work fine, but the connectors and knobs don't last long if used a lot. ---Robert Allan Streib wrote: Went to put a can of R134a in my wife's car last night, and could not find the cheapo tap and hose that I bought for this at Autozone or someplace. Thinking of buying a set of proper service gauges -- so I can see the high and low side, etc. There is a Snap-On set on eBay right now, any thoughts on that or other brands? I'd like one that is R12 and R134a capable, and has a vacuum connection. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
In a message dated 8/9/2007 11:26:06 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Went to put a can of R134a in my wife's car last night, and could not find the cheapo tap and hose that I bought for this at Autozone or someplace. Thinking of buying a set of proper service gauges -- so I can see the high and low side, etc. There is a Snap-On set on eBay right now, any thoughts on that or other brands? I'd like one that is R12 and R134a capable, and has a vacuum connection. Allan, Snap On would be a very good quality set--make sure it has the quick disconnect fitting needed for R134 hi and low sides. For comparison, Harbor Freight has an average set for around $35 set up for R134 only. Most gauge sets do not service both r12 and r134 to prevent cross contamination. You can buy a set of adapters as the gauges themselves usually have both calibrations,plus R 22. Maybe the Snap On set comes with the adapters? Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
There is a Snap-On set on eBay right now, any thoughts on that or other brands? I'd like one that is R12 and R134a capable, and has a vacuum connection. Snap-on is excellent. But you won't find (and don't want) a single set for both systems. The oils in particular are not that compatible, the R134a oil attacks R12 oil IIRC. It stinks, but you are going to need two sets if you're going to service mineral-oil systems (R12, and compatible HC replacements) and non-mineral-oil systems. I have a Blue Point (Snap-on's cheaper line) R12 set, and a Harbor Freight R134a set. The former is much preferable to the latter. The latter is only of use for my Dodge pickup and friends' vehicles. Ours are all R12 or compatible. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
On 8/9/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you won't find (and don't want) a single set for both systems. The oils in particular are not that compatible, the R134a oil attacks R12 oil IIRC. It stinks, but you are going to need two sets if you're going to service mineral-oil systems (R12, and compatible HC replacements) and non-mineral-oil systems. What about having one manifold and two sets of hoses, and flushing out the manifold with some type of solvent in between uses? Or is that being penny-wise and pound-foolish? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
speaking of adaptors, anybody know where I can get an adaptor for the yellow hose to hook R134 guages to my originally R12 recycle machine? It has the R12 side fitting on the front of the machine to hook guages to, need an adaptor so I can hook my R134 guages to it. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: The hoses won't fit without adapters and those are getting harder to find. If you do get an r12 set with adapters for 134, you will need to drop by an HVAC supply and buy a bag of the little rubber washers that go in the fittings, because they take a beating ( they're dirt cheap ) ---Robert -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
The hoses won't fit without adapters and those are getting harder to find. If you do get an r12 set with adapters for 134, you will need to drop by an HVAC supply and buy a bag of the little rubber washers that go in the fittings, because they take a beating ( they're dirt cheap ) ---Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: What about having one manifold and two sets of hoses, and flushing out the manifold with some type of solvent in between uses? Or is that being penny-wise and pound-foolish? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
Take one from one of your cars that has been converted from R12 to R134a On 8/9/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of adaptors, anybody know where I can get an adaptor for the yellow hose to hook R134 guages to my originally R12 recycle machine? It has the R12 side fitting on the front of the machine to hook guages to, need an adaptor so I can hook my R134 guages to it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
Napa carries them. I just had to buy one a few weeks ago for a new vacuum pump I bought ( my old adapter was seized to my old pump). I think they hit me about $5 for it, but considering that I had wasted half a day hitting all the HVAC supply houses and came up empty handed, $5 isn't too bad :-) --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: speaking of adaptors, anybody know where I can get an adaptor for the yellow hose to hook R134 guages to my originally R12 recycle machine? It has the R12 side fitting on the front of the machine to hook guages to, need an adaptor so I can hook my R134 guages to it. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: The hoses won't fit without adapters and those are getting harder to find. If you do get an r12 set with adapters for 134, you will need to drop by an HVAC supply and buy a bag of the little rubber washers that go in the fittings, because they take a beating ( they're dirt cheap ) ---Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
What about having one manifold and two sets of hoses, and flushing out the manifold with some type of solvent in between uses? Or is that being penny-wise and pound-foolish? What a major PITA! Probably cheaper to just get an on-sale R134a set when you can. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
