Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
I had the same idea Max. But no idea how to implement it. Moddified water lift muffler could be one way to do it, I suppose. Thanks, Karl On Jun 15, 2016 6:28 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I think if the exhaust is underwater, breaking up the bubbles into the smallest possible size would increase the amount of soot going into the water and not the air. Maybe some kind of screen at the exhaust exit, or a series of screens? Would need to be careful to not restrict the exhaust too much and create so much back-pressure that you lose engine power. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like a fine spray would wash soot out of the exhaust stream. Get > some oil burner nozzles (they have various spray patterns and rates) with a > high-pressure water pump (not sure what the pressure an oil burner runs at > but it has to be fairly high I think to pump through those little nozzles) > and see what might work? > > --R > > > On 6/15/16 8:33 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >> In CA all trucks have particulate filters and urea injection retrofitted. >> They are remarkably clean. Across thousands of vehicles it definitely >> makes >> a difference. I have been looking for a way to put a dpf on the cummins >> 5.9 >> in the boat, but it is wet exhaust. Anybody know anything about reducing >> soot using a water scrubber for a small diesel? >> On Feb 6, 2015 11:58 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction >>> equipment etc. >>> Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. >>> I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to >>> be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of >>> trucks, buses, trains etc. >>> >>> RB >>> >>> On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Here it is: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ >>>> >>>> I also read London plans to follow suit. >>>> >>>> In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which >>>> explains much. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> >>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM >>>>> To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>>> >>>>> Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM >>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>>>> >>>>>> At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- >>>>>> >>>>>> embraces- >>>>> >>>>> diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ >>>>>> r=0 ___ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>>>>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list >>>>>> owner >>>>>> >>>>>> has no >>>>> >>>>> control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>>
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
Thanks. I think it's is the way the scrubbers on big diesel ship engines work; constant spray of fluid downward in a series of cones, and exhaust traveling up through the spray. Wet exhausts have a single nozzle injecting seawater from the heat exchanger into the exhaust gas at a mixing elbow. It then runs down into a rubber hose with the exhaust gas. Some outfits sell little mixing vanes to put into the hose to further agitate the water and mix it with the gas. I will probably try that. Putting more nozzles and an extra pump in to increase the amount of spray is a great idea, but a lot more work. I am not above welding something like that up, though. I'm pretty sure nothing like it is available for a smaller diesel. It would basically be a longer mixing elbow. On Jun 15, 2016 6:24 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like a fine spray would wash soot out of the exhaust stream. Get > some oil burner nozzles (they have various spray patterns and rates) with a > high-pressure water pump (not sure what the pressure an oil burner runs at > but it has to be fairly high I think to pump through those little nozzles) > and see what might work? > > --R > > > On 6/15/16 8:33 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >> In CA all trucks have particulate filters and urea injection retrofitted. >> They are remarkably clean. Across thousands of vehicles it definitely >> makes >> a difference. I have been looking for a way to put a dpf on the cummins >> 5.9 >> in the boat, but it is wet exhaust. Anybody know anything about reducing >> soot using a water scrubber for a small diesel? >> On Feb 6, 2015 11:58 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction >>> equipment etc. >>> Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. >>> I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to >>> be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of >>> trucks, buses, trains etc. >>> >>> RB >>> >>> On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Here it is: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ >>>> >>>> I also read London plans to follow suit. >>>> >>>> In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which >>>> explains much. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> >>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM >>>>> To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>>> >>>>> Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM >>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>>>> >>>>>> At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- >>>>>> >>>>>> embraces- >>>>> >>>>> diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ >>>>>> r=0 ___ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>>>>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list >>>>>> owner >>>>>> >>>>>> has no >>>>> >>>>> control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>>>>> >>>
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
I think if the exhaust is underwater, breaking up the bubbles into the smallest possible size would increase the amount of soot going into the water and not the air. Maybe some kind of screen at the exhaust exit, or a series of screens? Would need to be careful to not restrict the exhaust too much and create so much back-pressure that you lose engine power. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like a fine spray would wash soot out of the exhaust stream. Get > some oil burner nozzles (they have various spray patterns and rates) with a > high-pressure water pump (not sure what the pressure an oil burner runs at > but it has to be fairly high I think to pump through those little nozzles) > and see what might work? > > --R > > > On 6/15/16 8:33 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >> In CA all trucks have particulate filters and urea injection retrofitted. >> They are remarkably clean. Across thousands of vehicles it definitely >> makes >> a difference. I have been looking for a way to put a dpf on the cummins >> 5.9 >> in the boat, but it is wet exhaust. Anybody know anything about reducing >> soot using a water scrubber for a small diesel? >> On Feb 6, 2015 11:58 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction >>> equipment etc. >>> Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. >>> I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to >>> be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of >>> trucks, buses, trains etc. >>> >>> RB >>> >>> On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Here it is: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ >>>> >>>> I also read London plans to follow suit. >>>> >>>> In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which >>>> explains much. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> >>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM >>>>> To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>>> >>>>> Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM >>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>>>> >>>>>> At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- >>>>>> >>>>>> embraces- >>>>> >>>>> diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ >>>>>> r=0 ___ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>>>>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list >>>>>> owner >>>>>> >>>>>> has no >>>>> >>>>> control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
Seems like a fine spray would wash soot out of the exhaust stream. Get some oil burner nozzles (they have various spray patterns and rates) with a high-pressure water pump (not sure what the pressure an oil burner runs at but it has to be fairly high I think to pump through those little nozzles) and see what might work? --R On 6/15/16 8:33 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: In CA all trucks have particulate filters and urea injection retrofitted. They are remarkably clean. Across thousands of vehicles it definitely makes a difference. I have been looking for a way to put a dpf on the cummins 5.9 in the boat, but it is wet exhaust. Anybody know anything about reducing soot using a water scrubber for a small diesel? On Feb 6, 2015 11:58 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction equipment etc. Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of trucks, buses, trains etc. RB On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Here it is: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ I also read London plans to follow suit. In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which explains much. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --BB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
In CA all trucks have particulate filters and urea injection retrofitted. They are remarkably clean. Across thousands of vehicles it definitely makes a difference. I have been looking for a way to put a dpf on the cummins 5.9 in the boat, but it is wet exhaust. Anybody know anything about reducing soot using a water scrubber for a small diesel? On Feb 6, 2015 11:58 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction > equipment etc. > Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. > I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to > be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of > trucks, buses, trains etc. > > RB > > On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > >> Here it is: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ >> >> I also read London plans to follow suit. >> >> In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which >> explains much. >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM >>> To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>> >>> Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA >>>> >>>> At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. >>>> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- >>>> >>> embraces- >>> >>>> diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ >>>> r=0 ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list >>>> owner >>>> >>> has no >>> >>>> control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >>> >> has no >> >>> control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
That's OK - he wouldn't even notice. On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > and put $$$ in Tbone's pockets! > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > February 6, 2015 at 2:31 PM via Postbox > <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> > T Boone Pickens wants USA to invest $$billions converting heavy duty trucks > and diesel trucks to LNG. Would help emissions and wipe out the trade > deficit. > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > February 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM via Postbox > <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> > Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction > equipment etc. > Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. > I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to > be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of > trucks, buses, trains etc. > > RB > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > February 6, 2015 at 1:47 PM via Postbox > <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> > > Here it > is:http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diese > l-powered-cars/ > > I also read London plans to follow suit. > > In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which > explains much. > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com>] On Behalf Of > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM > To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA > > Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com>] On Behalf Of > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA > > At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- > > embraces- > > diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ > r=0 ___http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list > owner > > has no > > control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > ___http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > > has no > > control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > > ___http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
and put $$$ in Tbone's pockets! Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> February 6, 2015 at 2:31 PMvia Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> T Boone Pickens wants USA to invest $$billions converting heavy duty trucks and diesel trucks to LNG. Would help emissions and wipe out the trade deficit. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> February 6, 2015 at 1:58 PMvia Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction equipment etc. Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of trucks, buses, trains etc. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> February 6, 2015 at 1:47 PMvia Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> Here it is: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diese l-powered-cars/ I also read London plans to follow suit. In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which explains much. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment&_ r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> February 6, 2015 at 1:37 PMvia Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach> Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
T Boone Pickens wants USA to invest $$billions converting heavy duty trucks and diesel trucks to LNG. Would help emissions and wipe out the trade deficit. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction equipment etc. Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of trucks, buses, trains etc. RB On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Here it is: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france- planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ I also read London plans to follow suit. In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which explains much. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_ r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
Here it is: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diese l-powered-cars/ I also read London plans to follow suit. In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which explains much. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_ r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
At least until they can figure out a way to tax them more --R On 2/6/15 2:37 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction equipment etc. Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars. I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of trucks, buses, trains etc. RB On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Here it is: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/ I also read London plans to follow suit. In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which explains much. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes.. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world- embraces- diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_ r=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
