Re: [MBZ] OT Sleep Apnea and CPAp machines

2020-10-31 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> I wonder - how did Neanderthals manage their >apnea?  Or did they just die 
> young in their sleep?


Well, they weren't morbidly obese for starters. They had limited access to 
quick carbohydrates (an occasional beehive), and no access to refined grains or 
high fructose corn syrup. So there's that. Take into consideration they 
probably had a life expectancy of say 45 or 50 and there you go.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Sleep Apnea and CPAp machines

2020-10-31 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Neaderthals had much better sinus cavities and breathing abilities.  Current 
edition humans are made for tropical or temperate climes where access to 
copious amounts of food required more energy than hopping into a car and 
trolling the aisles.  

clay 

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> On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So complicated.  I wonder - how did Neanderthals manage their apnea?  Or
> did they just die young in their sleep?
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
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B. Johnson
01/09/2020


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Re: [MBZ] OT Sleep Apnea and CPAp machines

2020-10-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So complicated.  I wonder - how did Neanderthals manage their apnea?  Or
did they just die young in their sleep?

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 2020-10-30 22:04, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > My nostrils got really chafed using those "pillows" several years back.
> > Has their design improved?
>
> I was fitted for the small/medium sized pillows a couple of years ago.
> It was a Fisher-Paykel model with minimal head straps that I'd dislodge
> rolling around in my sleep, and the nasal openings were small enough to
> feel like it was restricting airflow, so I gave up on them after a
> couple of nights.
>
> IIRC, the goal of CPAP is to get the events down under ten per hour.
> Is twelve even considered a treatable problem?
> I was 45 in my sleep study.
>
> What was her minimum oxygen level in the sleep study, does she need
> treatment to get her pulse ox up?
>
> A pulse oximeter that remembers a night's readings is handy.
> It looks like the recording oximeters are bluetooth now, and your cell
> phone does the recording.
> But it might be difficult to run an app on a smartphone if you're both
> blind.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Sleep Apnea and CPAp machines

2020-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-30 22:04, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My nostrils got really chafed using those "pillows" several years back.
Has their design improved?


I was fitted for the small/medium sized pillows a couple of years ago.
It was a Fisher-Paykel model with minimal head straps that I'd dislodge 
rolling around in my sleep, and the nasal openings were small enough to 
feel like it was restricting airflow, so I gave up on them after a 
couple of nights.


IIRC, the goal of CPAP is to get the events down under ten per hour.
Is twelve even considered a treatable problem?
I was 45 in my sleep study.

What was her minimum oxygen level in the sleep study, does she need 
treatment to get her pulse ox up?


A pulse oximeter that remembers a night's readings is handy.
It looks like the recording oximeters are bluetooth now, and your cell 
phone does the recording.
But it might be difficult to run an app on a smartphone if you're both 
blind.

Mitch.

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