Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
Well the merchant now eats the cost charged by the cc companies for transactions. David Brodbeck wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You cant do that, its against the rules. That is why everyone pays more for shipping and handling even if they dont use paypal. It's basically the same thing the credit card companies do. Remember when gas stations used to charge an extra percentage if you paid with a credit card, to make up the merchant fees? They don't do that anymore. I'm guessing everyone just pays a little more, whether they're paying with credit or cash. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the merchant now eats the cost charged by the cc companies for transactions. Yeah, but it all comes out of what the consumer pays one way or another. It's a cost of doing business for them and they figure it onto their pricing, I'm sure.
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
of course David Brodbeck wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well the merchant now eats the cost charged by the cc companies for transactions. Yeah, but it all comes out of what the consumer pays one way or another. It's a cost of doing business for them and they figure it onto their pricing, I'm sure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
Guilty as charged. But it isn't necessarily to avoid eBay fees, it is to sell the item dirt cheap but not lose money on the legitimate fees. I think everyone knows what is happening when they bid. And I don't inflate too much, maybe $3 over actual costs. Nothing sucks as much as having an item go for a penny, charging actual mailing fees, and then losing money when eBay tacks on their costs. No doubt. I just got in a pissing contest on an eBay PayPal forum about PayPals fees. I am just trying to clear my basement and garage of crap, that maybe someone somewhere might possibly get use out of. MB content- I will list any Mercedes stuff here first. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
I am not far from NOT accepting PayPal for that reason. I can wait for a cashier's check to arrive in the mail. I can remember when having a successful auction on eBay did not require a postal scale and a spreadsheet. D. On 7/27/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No doubt. I just got in a pissing contest on an eBay PayPal forum about PayPals fees. I am just trying to clear my basement and garage of crap, that maybe someone somewhere might possibly get use out of. MB content- I will list any Mercedes stuff here first. Rick Knoble -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
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I am not far from NOT accepting PayPal for that reason. I can wait for a cashier's check to arrive in the mail. I can remember when having a successful auction on eBay did not require a postal scale and a spreadsheet. You did it. You got me started. I used to accept PP, had all their wonderful crap all over my auctions, then they came up with the policy that if you accepted PP you HAD to take credit cards. AND you have to pay like 3% of every sale, cc or not. Absolute BS for a guy like me who sells rummage items for less than ten bucks. I think they want nothing but big business style auctions and screw the little guy. The little guys are who made eBay what it is in the first place. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
My fault? Ok, I can accept the blame. Nah, I was w-wr-wro, mistaken. It is up to me to decide how to react to any given situation. Truth be told, the ebay forum mongers are who I let piss me off. Smug, snippy b*tches who think they are the eBay police force. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
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I say put into your listing why you will NOT accept PayPal (I have won such auctions and sent a money order). Only when the proletariat unite will ... oh my, that is sounding way too much like my college years! On 7/27/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fault? Ok, I can accept the blame. Nah, I was w-wr-wro, mistaken. It is up to me to decide how to react to any given situation. Truth be told, the ebay forum mongers are who I let piss me off. Smug, snippy b*tches who think they are the eBay police force. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
you could pass that cost onto the buyer IF they want to use paypal. Make a disclaimer in the auction about it. Seller prefers Cashiers check or Money Order. If PayPal is used, total is subject to a 3% fee On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:08:11 -0500, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not far from NOT accepting PayPal for that reason. I can wait for a cashier's check to arrive in the mail. I can remember when having a successful auction on eBay did not require a postal scale and a spreadsheet. You did it. You got me started. I used to accept PP, had all their wonderful crap all over my auctions, then they came up with the policy that if you accepted PP you HAD to take credit cards. AND you have to pay like 3% of every sale, cc or not. Absolute BS for a guy like me who sells rummage items for less than ten bucks. I think they want nothing but big business style auctions and screw the little guy. The little guys are who made eBay what it is in the first place. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
That would be an auction killer, I think. I've seen folks do that. I think most bidders would rather unknowingly pay hidden costs than be slapped in the face with an obvious surcharge. On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you could pass that cost onto the buyer IF they want to use paypal. Make a disclaimer in the auction about it. Seller prefers Cashiers check or Money Order. If PayPal is used, total is subject to a 3% fee -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
I sell a lot on eBay and I agree that you have to watch their fees. They can creep up to the point where you can spend half of your selling price on eBay and PayPal. I've seen a lot of items sell in the $1.00 - $3.00 range with actual shipping. These sellers just don't understand. Even items you pick up for next to nothing need to sell for $4.00 or more to make listing selling worth the trouble. It also helps to buffer the freight by $0.50 - $1.00. You'll spend more than $1.00 on a box tape for a single item. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update Guilty as charged. But it isn't necessarily to avoid eBay fees, it is to sell the item dirt cheap but not lose money on the legitimate fees. I think everyone knows what is happening when they bid. And I don't inflate too much, maybe $3 over actual costs. Nothing sucks as much as having an item go for a penny, charging actual mailing fees, and then losing money when eBay tacks on their costs. No doubt. I just got in a pissing contest on an eBay PayPal forum about PayPals fees. I am just trying to clear my basement and garage of crap, that maybe someone somewhere might possibly get use out of. MB content- I will list any Mercedes stuff here first. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
And that is why I have a cost spreadsheet for each of my auctions. Oh -- I am really anal, too, which might also explain it. D. On 7/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: I say put into your listing why you will NOT accept PayPal (I have won such auctions and sent a money order). My last eBay auction was for a new model aircraft receiver, festooned with nopaypal logos. Mail order hobby shops get $59.99 for it. I sold mine for $28. The same day somebody who accepted paypal got $35 for a used one. I don't bother with eBay any more, they've made their illegal bank practically mandatory now. The part that pisses me off the most is that all the attorney generals who were suing paypal for operating an illegal bank crawled back under their rocks the minute eBay bought paypal. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
What about the second biggest auction site? My son-in-law buys and sells there. I forget its name. Gerry - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] And that is why I have a cost spreadsheet for each of my auctions. Oh -- I am really anal, too, which might also explain it. D. On 7/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: I say put into your listing why you will NOT accept PayPal (I have won such auctions and sent a money order). My last eBay auction was for a new model aircraft receiver, festooned with nopaypal logos. Mail order hobby shops get $59.99 for it. I sold mine for $28. The same day somebody who accepted paypal got $35 for a used one. I don't bother with eBay any more, they've made their illegal bank practically mandatory now. The part that pisses me off the most is that all the attorney generals who were suing paypal for operating an illegal bank crawled back under their rocks the minute eBay bought paypal. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You cant do that, its against the rules. That is why everyone pays more for shipping and handling even if they dont use paypal. It's basically the same thing the credit card companies do. Remember when gas stations used to charge an extra percentage if you paid with a credit card, to make up the merchant fees? They don't do that anymore. I'm guessing everyone just pays a little more, whether they're paying with credit or cash.
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Tom Hargrave wrote: I sell a lot on eBay and I agree that you have to watch their fees. They can creep up to the point where you can spend half of your selling price on eBay and PayPal. I've seen a lot of items sell in the $1.00 - $3.00 range with actual shipping. These sellers just don't understand. Even items you pick up for next to nothing need to sell for $4.00 or more to make listing selling worth the trouble. Yup. I won't even list anything I don't expect to go for at least $10, anymore. Anything less than that goes in the dumpster or the garage sale pile.
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
LT Don wrote: I am not far from NOT accepting PayPal for that reason. I can wait for a cashier's check to arrive in the mail. Be careful. Cashier's checks can be forged. Often the bank will go so far as to put the money in your account, then later take it back and sock you with a fee for presenting a non-payable item.
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David wrote:Remember when gas stations used to charge an extra percentage if you paid with a credit card, to make up the merchant fees? Hi David, I thought the same thing. I can;t remember the last time I saw that cash price/credit price stuff - until drumroll please, I went to a new truckstop to fill the diesel up - cash or debit was $.03 cheaper than the credit price. It's a new Pilot Truck stop on I-95 in Va. just down the street from me. Very convienent and good prices. Diesel was $2.69/gal. last time I filled up. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You cant do that, its against the rules. That is why everyone pays more for shipping and handling even if they dont use paypal. It's basically the same thing the credit card companies do. Remember when gas stations used to charge an extra percentage if you paid with a credit card, to make up the merchant fees? They don't do that anymore. I'm guessing everyone just pays a little more, whether they're paying with credit or cash. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006
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Rick, Come on man are you that greedy that you are not willing to give up less than a buck to make $9 on a piece of junk? I live off E-Bay sales mostly.NOWHERE, Paypal or not can you get advertising to as many people for anywhere near that price per item. Gotta spend money to make moneyFact of life. Mike PS: Price a classified ad in the local paper for all of your items and compare the percentage of the priceRemember to count your words - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update I am not far from NOT accepting PayPal for that reason. I can wait for a cashier's check to arrive in the mail. I can remember when having a successful auction on eBay did not require a postal scale and a spreadsheet. You did it. You got me started. I used to accept PP, had all their wonderful crap all over my auctions, then they came up with the policy that if you accepted PP you HAD to take credit cards. AND you have to pay like 3% of every sale, cc or not. Absolute BS for a guy like me who sells rummage items for less than ten bucks. I think they want nothing but big business style auctions and screw the little guy. The little guys are who made eBay what it is in the first place. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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SHip Priority Mail.USPS will send you the boxes and such to your house for free. Customer pays for Priority shipping and is always happy when the item arrives in 2-3 days. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update I sell a lot on eBay and I agree that you have to watch their fees. They can creep up to the point where you can spend half of your selling price on eBay and PayPal. I've seen a lot of items sell in the $1.00 - $3.00 range with actual shipping. These sellers just don't understand. Even items you pick up for next to nothing need to sell for $4.00 or more to make listing selling worth the trouble. It also helps to buffer the freight by $0.50 - $1.00. You'll spend more than $1.00 on a box tape for a single item. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update Guilty as charged. But it isn't necessarily to avoid eBay fees, it is to sell the item dirt cheap but not lose money on the legitimate fees. I think everyone knows what is happening when they bid. And I don't inflate too much, maybe $3 over actual costs. Nothing sucks as much as having an item go for a penny, charging actual mailing fees, and then losing money when eBay tacks on their costs. No doubt. I just got in a pissing contest on an eBay PayPal forum about PayPals fees. I am just trying to clear my basement and garage of crap, that maybe someone somewhere might possibly get use out of. MB content- I will list any Mercedes stuff here first. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update
Allot of stations are going back to that around here in NY and PA. Mike - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You cant do that, its against the rules. That is why everyone pays more for shipping and handling even if they dont use paypal. It's basically the same thing the credit card companies do. Remember when gas stations used to charge an extra percentage if you paid with a credit card, to make up the merchant fees? They don't do that anymore. I'm guessing everyone just pays a little more, whether they're paying with credit or cash. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
