Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In the Dec. 2013 issue of The Star (MBCA magazine) there was a writeup by a
guy who bragged on purchasing a 1984 300D for $4400 that was in Great Shape
and then turning it in to his local dealer to fix "all the little stuff".
The bill came to $4700 and BTW, he had other issues after that.  Still, he
LOVES his 123 turbodiesel sedan.

This guy was not named "Floyd".

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:29 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 00:14:10 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I want to be a 1%er
>
> Certainly, but not that kind!
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > And likely 99% effective, but you don't want to be a 1 percenter.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 00:14:10 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I want to be a 1%er

Certainly, but not that kind!


Craig


> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > And likely 99% effective, but you don't want to be a 1 percenter.

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Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I want to be a 1%er

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And likely 99% effective, but you don't want to be a 1 percenter.
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s not a long term fix, and they make that pretty clear.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A guy I worked with has Lasik around 15 years ago in his late 20's and
>> tells me he's due to have it again
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:   Never
>> understood the one eye for near, one eye for far stuff with Lasik, either.
>> It would seem like that would really mess you up.
>>> 
>>> Had a former business partner who popped for Lasik, did it with one of
>> the best guys around, and one of his eyes was bad, in that the surgery did
>> not cure his eyesight or correct his astigmatism. Made him legally blind.
>>> 
>>> With Lasik, they won’t go back in and make corrections until your
>> eyesight is stable for at least 30 days. Since you have to wait for
>> everything to heal, he was unable to drive or work for some time. To be
>> honest, I don’t know if it ever got corrected because I got bought out
>> before it was over.
>>> 
>>> That turned me off of Lasik right away.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
 
 Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
 for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
 interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives
>> me
 a headache just thinking about it.
 
 I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
 focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
 
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:
 
> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far
>> vision, as
> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye
>> surgeon,
> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
> 
> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye
>> corrected
> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would
>> likely b
> same as mine..
> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding...
>> cataracts
> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything
>> is... my
> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO,
>> worth
> it.
> 
> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about
>> 20
> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only
>> does
> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time
>> to do
> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done
>> thousands of
> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made
>> everything go
> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the
>> research
>> into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are
>> like
> bi
>> or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
>> How do your lenses work?
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
>>> I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and
>> then
>> went
>>> through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
>> with.
>>> Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
> and
>>> far they were a personal danger.
>>> Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being
>> able
>> to
>>> shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
>>> reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
>>> magnification
>>> The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
>> length
>>> set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
> between
>>> near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
>>> Also, the 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 16:11:39 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It’s not a long term fix, and they make that pretty clear.

Interesting. They certainly don't mention that in advertisements.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And I think that was the deal with my former business partner.

-D

> On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> And likely 99% effective, but you don't want to be a 1 percenter.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> It’s not a long term fix, and they make that pretty clear.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > A guy I worked with has Lasik around 15 years ago in his late 20's and 
> > tells me he's due to have it again
> > Curt
> > 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> > 
> >  On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM, Dan Penoff via 
> > Mercedesmailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > >> wrote:   
> > Never understood the one eye for near, one eye for far stuff with Lasik, 
> > either. It would seem like that would really mess you up.
> > 
> > Had a former business partner who popped for Lasik, did it with one of the 
> > best guys around, and one of his eyes was bad, in that the surgery did not 
> > cure his eyesight or correct his astigmatism. Made him legally blind.
> > 
> > With Lasik, they won’t go back in and make corrections until your eyesight 
> > is stable for at least 30 days. Since you have to wait for everything to 
> > heal, he was unable to drive or work for some time. To be honest, I don’t 
> > know if it ever got corrected because I got bought out before it was over. 
> > 
> > That turned me off of Lasik right away.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
> >> for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
> >> interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives me
> >> a headache just thinking about it.
> >> 
> >> I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
> >> focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes  >> >
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision, as
> >>> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye 
> >>> surgeon,
> >>> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
> >>> 
> >>> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye corrected
> >>> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
> >>> same as mine..
> >>> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding... cataracts
> >>> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is... 
> >>> my
> >>> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
> >>> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
> >>> it.
> >>> 
> >>> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
> >>> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
> >>> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
> >>> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
> >>> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to do
> >>> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
> >>> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands 
> >>> of
> >>> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything 
> >>> go
> >>> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
> >>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
>  OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
>  into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like
> >>> bi
>  or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
>  How do your lenses work?
>  
>  On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> > 
>  wrote:
>  
> > Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> > I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then
>  went
> > through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
>  with.
> > Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
> >>> and
> > far they were a personal danger.
> > Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able
>  to
> > shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> > reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> > magnification
> > The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
>  length
> > set to my useful length. That provided a 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And likely 99% effective, but you don't want to be a 1 percenter.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s not a long term fix, and they make that pretty clear.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > A guy I worked with has Lasik around 15 years ago in his late 20's and
> tells me he's due to have it again
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >  On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:   Never
> understood the one eye for near, one eye for far stuff with Lasik, either.
> It would seem like that would really mess you up.
> >
> > Had a former business partner who popped for Lasik, did it with one of
> the best guys around, and one of his eyes was bad, in that the surgery did
> not cure his eyesight or correct his astigmatism. Made him legally blind.
> >
> > With Lasik, they won’t go back in and make corrections until your
> eyesight is stable for at least 30 days. Since you have to wait for
> everything to heal, he was unable to drive or work for some time. To be
> honest, I don’t know if it ever got corrected because I got bought out
> before it was over.
> >
> > That turned me off of Lasik right away.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
> >> for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
> >> interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives
> me
> >> a headache just thinking about it.
> >>
> >> I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
> >> focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far
> vision, as
> >>> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye
> surgeon,
> >>> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
> >>>
> >>> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye
> corrected
> >>> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would
> likely b
> >>> same as mine..
> >>> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding...
> cataracts
> >>> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything
> is... my
> >>> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
> >>> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO,
> worth
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
> >>> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about
> 20
> >>> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
> >>> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only
> does
> >>> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time
> to do
> >>> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
> >>> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done
> thousands of
> >>> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made
> everything go
> >>> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the
> research
>  into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are
> like
> >>> bi
>  or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
>  How do your lenses work?
> 
>  On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >
>  wrote:
> 
> > Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> > I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and
> then
>  went
> > through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
>  with.
> > Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
> >>> and
> > far they were a personal danger.
> > Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being
> able
>  to
> > shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> > reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> > magnification
> > The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
>  length
> > set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
> >>> between
> > near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
> > Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave
> >>> side
> > vision improvements.
> >
> > In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted
> >>> 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s not a long term fix, and they make that pretty clear.

-D

> On Jun 4, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A guy I worked with has Lasik around 15 years ago in his late 20's and tells 
> me he's due to have it again
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM, Dan Penoff via 
> Mercedesmailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:   Never 
> understood the one eye for near, one eye for far stuff with Lasik, either. It 
> would seem like that would really mess you up.
> 
> Had a former business partner who popped for Lasik, did it with one of the 
> best guys around, and one of his eyes was bad, in that the surgery did not 
> cure his eyesight or correct his astigmatism. Made him legally blind.
> 
> With Lasik, they won’t go back in and make corrections until your eyesight is 
> stable for at least 30 days. Since you have to wait for everything to heal, 
> he was unable to drive or work for some time. To be honest, I don’t know if 
> it ever got corrected because I got bought out before it was over. 
> 
> That turned me off of Lasik right away.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
>> for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
>> interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives me
>> a headache just thinking about it.
>> 
>> I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
>> focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision, as
>>> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye surgeon,
>>> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
>>> 
>>> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye corrected
>>> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
>>> same as mine..
>>> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding... cataracts
>>> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is... my
>>> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
>>> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
>>> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
>>> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
>>> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
>>> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to do
>>> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
>>> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands of
>>> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything go
>>> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes >>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
 into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like
>>> bi
 or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
 How do your lenses work?
 
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
 wrote:
 
> Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then
 went
> through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
 with.
> Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
>>> and
> far they were a personal danger.
> Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able
 to
> shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> magnification
> The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
 length
> set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
>>> between
> near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
> Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave
>>> side
> vision improvements.
> 
> In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted
>>> lens
> implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism.
 After
> about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total
 success...
> although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is
>>> much
> lighter.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A guy I worked with has Lasik around 15 years ago in his late 20's and tells me 
he's due to have it again
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:12 PM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   Never understood the one eye for near, 
one eye for far stuff with Lasik, either. It would seem like that would really 
mess you up.

Had a former business partner who popped for Lasik, did it with one of the best 
guys around, and one of his eyes was bad, in that the surgery did not cure his 
eyesight or correct his astigmatism. Made him legally blind.

With Lasik, they won’t go back in and make corrections until your eyesight is 
stable for at least 30 days. Since you have to wait for everything to heal, he 
was unable to drive or work for some time. To be honest, I don’t know if it 
ever got corrected because I got bought out before it was over. 

That turned me off of Lasik right away.

-D


> On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
> for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
> interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives me
> a headache just thinking about it.
> 
> I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
> focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
> 
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision, as
>> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye surgeon,
>> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
>> 
>> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye corrected
>> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
>> same as mine..
>> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding... cataracts
>> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is... my
>> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
>> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
>> it.
>> 
>> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
>> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
>> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
>> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
>> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to do
>> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
>> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands of
>> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything go
>> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
>>> into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like
>> bi
>>> or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
>>> How do your lenses work?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
 I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then
>>> went
 through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
>>> with.
 Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
>> and
 far they were a personal danger.
 Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able
>>> to
 shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
 reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
 magnification
 The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
>>> length
 set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
>> between
 near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
 Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave
>> side
 vision improvements.
 
 In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted
>> lens
 implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism.
>>> After
 about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total
>>> success...
 although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is
>> much
 lighter.
 
 On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no idea,what
 they
> cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for
>>> years.
> Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back to
 side
> to check  mowing swath. I do know  people who have trouble with them
>>> but
> until this thread 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I must confess, being a pilot, I ask the Dr. more in depth questions than
any patient he ever had.
He got the work because he carefully answered each and every one of them,
then sent me to read medical eye information to back it up.
To say, "I was deeply concerned" is mild... Being blessed with outstanding
vision for decades [tested at 20/10 on a number of flight physicals for
years] I wanted to "Do it right".

There was an insurance coverage battle, in my case, because I wanted only
the deluxe of lens, laser cataract removal, etc etc... after much back and
forth... I invited the insurance to pound sand and spent $8,000 total for
both eyes... ouch... but good desired result.. and, yes, I'm sure I got
stuck with the full boat, no discount service but.. the nurse was extra
nice ;))

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:16 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
> for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
> interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives me
> a headache just thinking about it.
>
> I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
> focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision,
> as
> > well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye
> surgeon,
> > everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
> >
> > FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye
> corrected
> > for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
> > same as mine..
> > After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding...
> cataracts
> > were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is...
> my
> > first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
> > Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
> > it.
> >
> > If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
> > search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
> > minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
> > clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
> > one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to
> do
> > the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
> > The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands
> of
> > eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything
> go
> > smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the
> research
> > > into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like
> > bi
> > > or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
> > > How do your lenses work?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> > > > I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and
> then
> > > went
> > > > through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
> > > with.
> > > > Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
> > and
> > > > far they were a personal danger.
> > > > Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being
> able
> > > to
> > > > shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> > > > reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> > > > magnification
> > > > The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
> > > length
> > > > set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
> > between
> > > > near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
> > > > Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave
> > side
> > > > vision improvements.
> > > >
> > > > In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted
> > lens
> > > > implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism.
> > > After
> > > > about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total
> > > success...
> > > > although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is
> > much
> > > > lighter.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no
> idea,what
> > > > they
> > > > > cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for
> > > years.
> > > > > Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back
> to
> > > > side
> > > > > to check  mowing swath. 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Never understood the one eye for near, one eye for far stuff with Lasik, 
either. It would seem like that would really mess you up.

Had a former business partner who popped for Lasik, did it with one of the best 
guys around, and one of his eyes was bad, in that the surgery did not cure his 
eyesight or correct his astigmatism. Made him legally blind.

With Lasik, they won’t go back in and make corrections until your eyesight is 
stable for at least 30 days. Since you have to wait for everything to heal, he 
was unable to drive or work for some time. To be honest, I don’t know if it 
ever got corrected because I got bought out before it was over. 

That turned me off of Lasik right away.

-D


> On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
> for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
> interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives me
> a headache just thinking about it.
> 
> I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
> focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).
> 
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision, as
>> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye surgeon,
>> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
>> 
>> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye corrected
>> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
>> same as mine..
>> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding... cataracts
>> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is... my
>> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
>> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
>> it.
>> 
>> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
>> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
>> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
>> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
>> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to do
>> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
>> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands of
>> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything go
>> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
>>> into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like
>> bi
>>> or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
>>> How do your lenses work?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
 I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then
>>> went
 through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
>>> with.
 Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
>> and
 far they were a personal danger.
 Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able
>>> to
 shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
 reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
 magnification
 The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
>>> length
 set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
>> between
 near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
 Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave
>> side
 vision improvements.
 
 In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted
>> lens
 implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism.
>>> After
 about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total
>>> success...
 although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is
>> much
 lighter.
 
 On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no idea,what
 they
> cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for
>>> years.
> Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back to
 side
> to check  mowing swath. I do know  people who have trouble with them
>>> but
> until this thread never thought about them  i have corneal disease in
>>> my
> right eye so i get MD level eye care.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes <
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds good! I still don't understand how one implanted lens can correct
for both far and near vision - will have to dig deeper. I was never
interested in the one eye for one, the other for the other idea - gives me
a headache just thinking about it.

I like your choice, just don't understand how it works (the old manual
focus photographer in me want's to understand the optics of it).

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision, as
> well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye surgeon,
> everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].
>
> FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye corrected
> for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
> same as mine..
> After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding... cataracts
> were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is... my
> first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
> Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
> it.
>
> If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
> search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
> minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
> clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
> one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to do
> the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
> The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands of
> eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything go
> smoothly... all in all, successful experience.
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
> > into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like
> bi
> > or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
> > How do your lenses work?
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> > > I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then
> > went
> > > through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
> > with.
> > > Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid
> and
> > > far they were a personal danger.
> > > Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able
> > to
> > > shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> > > reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> > > magnification
> > > The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
> > length
> > > set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon
> between
> > > near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
> > > Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave
> side
> > > vision improvements.
> > >
> > > In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted
> lens
> > > implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism.
> > After
> > > about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total
> > success...
> > > although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is
> much
> > > lighter.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no idea,what
> > > they
> > > > cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for
> > years.
> > > > Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back to
> > > side
> > > > to check  mowing swath. I do know  people who have trouble with them
> > but
> > > > until this thread never thought about them  i have corneal disease in
> > my
> > > > right eye so i get MD level eye care.
> > > >
> > > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > > Wickford RI
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:53:48 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From what the doctor told me, progressives is just another name
> for
> > > no
> > > > > > like bifocals.
> > > > >
> > > > > "No like", huh? Does that really describe your feelings toward
> them?
> > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was looking briefly on the Internet for a picture showing the
> > > > > distribution of focal lengths across the typical "progressive" lens
> > > > > which I had seen before, but I couldn't find it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had thought the focal length was continuously variable from the
> > > > > top-middle of the lens to the bottom, but such is not the case.
> There
> > > are
> > > > > 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Both eyes are corrected with implant lens for both near and far vision, as
well as individual correction for astigmatism [according to my eye surgeon,
everyone has astigmatism, how much is individual].

FAA will not approve you for flight physical if you have one eye corrected
for near vision and one eye for far vision, so your choice would likely b
same as mine..
After years of Arizona sun, UV light at altitude, and welding... cataracts
were "well developed" and I am now amazed at how bright everything is... my
first purchase was a really good set of sunglasses. ha..
Because I went for the full boat ride, it wasn't cheap. But, IMHO, worth
it.

If you wish to see the procedure being done... call it up on a youtube
search... several video are available to view.  Procedure takes about 20
minutes... 3 days for the eye to clear up as the meds and lubrication
clears... then, vision becomes more intense by the day Dr. only does
one eye at a time... with 2 wks to a month between, so you have time to do
the necessary brain adjustment to get used to seeing clearly.
The Dr. I chose has been doing it for 28 years, so he has done thousands of
eyes.  Staff have all worked with him for years, so they made everything go
smoothly... all in all, successful experience.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:43 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
> into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like bi
> or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
> How do your lenses work?
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> > I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then
> went
> > through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live
> with.
> > Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid and
> > far they were a personal danger.
> > Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able
> to
> > shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> > reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> > magnification
> > The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal
> length
> > set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon between
> > near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
> > Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave side
> > vision improvements.
> >
> > In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted lens
> > implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism.
> After
> > about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total
> success...
> > although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is much
> > lighter.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no idea,what
> > they
> > > cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for
> years.
> > > Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back to
> > side
> > > to check  mowing swath. I do know  people who have trouble with them
> but
> > > until this thread never thought about them  i have corneal disease in
> my
> > > right eye so i get MD level eye care.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:53:48 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From what the doctor told me, progressives is just another name for
> > no
> > > > > like bifocals.
> > > >
> > > > "No like", huh? Does that really describe your feelings toward them?
> > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was looking briefly on the Internet for a picture showing the
> > > > distribution of focal lengths across the typical "progressive" lens
> > > > which I had seen before, but I couldn't find it.
> > > >
> > > > I had thought the focal length was continuously variable from the
> > > > top-middle of the lens to the bottom, but such is not the case. There
> > are
> > > > typically three central "zones" with progressively shorter focal
> > lengths
> > > > as one goes from the middle-top to the bottom of the lens. There are
> > also
> > > > two "zones" to the sides of the central "zones" which have a
> different
> > > > focal length for peripheral vision.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > >
> > > > ___
> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > > >
> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > To 

Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
OK - cataract surgery is in my near future, but haven't done the research
into the options yet. Are you saying that the implanted lenses are like bi
or tri focals? Or do you have one eye for far and one for close?
How do your lenses work?

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:31 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
> I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then went
> through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live with.
> Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid and
> far they were a personal danger.
> Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able to
> shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
> reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
> magnification
> The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal length
> set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon between
> near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
> Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave side
> vision improvements.
>
> In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted lens
> implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism. After
> about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total success...
> although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is much
> lighter.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no idea,what
> they
> > cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for years.
> > Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back to
> side
> > to check  mowing swath. I do know  people who have trouble with them but
> > until this thread never thought about them  i have corneal disease in my
> > right eye so i get MD level eye care.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:53:48 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > From what the doctor told me, progressives is just another name for
> no
> > > > like bifocals.
> > >
> > > "No like", huh? Does that really describe your feelings toward them?
> :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > I was looking briefly on the Internet for a picture showing the
> > > distribution of focal lengths across the typical "progressive" lens
> > > which I had seen before, but I couldn't find it.
> > >
> > > I had thought the focal length was continuously variable from the
> > > top-middle of the lens to the bottom, but such is not the case. There
> are
> > > typically three central "zones" with progressively shorter focal
> lengths
> > > as one goes from the middle-top to the bottom of the lens. There are
> also
> > > two "zones" to the sides of the central "zones" which have a different
> > > focal length for peripheral vision.
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > >
> > >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Progressive lenses.

2020-06-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Personal viewpoint on progressive lens.
I tried them, with careful fitting by skilled eye specialist, and then went
through 3 different sets of glasses, trying to get a fit I could live with.
Total failure. Because of the lack of definition between near and mid and
far they were a personal danger.
Working with precision machinery was a disaster. Rather than being able to
shift eye position to adjust for distance, it required continual head
reposition in a "hunt and peck" system of trying to find usable
magnification
The interim fix was to switch to lined bifocals, with desired focal length
set to my useful length. That provided a nice crisp shift horizon between
near and far magnification that "progressive lens" never gave..
Also, the focal area of the lined bifocals was much wider which gave side
vision improvements.

In December, last year, had cataract removal, both eyes, and fitted lens
implants which corrected far and near vision, as well as astigmatism. After
about 2 weeks, I now do not need to wear glasses at all... total success...
although not cheap... I now have 20/20 in each eye and my wallet is much
lighter.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mine have 3 distances. Close, medium & distance.  I have no idea,what they
> cost as i got them through insurance at work. I have had them  for years.
> Only issue i have ever had is driving a,lawn tractor &  look  back to side
> to check  mowing swath. I do know  people who have trouble with them but
> until this thread never thought about them  i have corneal disease in my
> right eye so i get MD level eye care.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 15:53:48 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > From what the doctor told me, progressives is just another name for no
> > > like bifocals.
> >
> > "No like", huh? Does that really describe your feelings toward them? :-)
> >
> >
> > I was looking briefly on the Internet for a picture showing the
> > distribution of focal lengths across the typical "progressive" lens
> > which I had seen before, but I couldn't find it.
> >
> > I had thought the focal length was continuously variable from the
> > top-middle of the lens to the bottom, but such is not the case. There are
> > typically three central "zones" with progressively shorter focal lengths
> > as one goes from the middle-top to the bottom of the lens. There are also
> > two "zones" to the sides of the central "zones" which have a different
> > focal length for peripheral vision.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
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