Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-29 Thread redghost
It is very worth doing a nice clean on the OM606 intakes.  They get 
really nasty in 10 years.  Reduced the air to half


On Thursday, April 27, 2006, at 07:32 AM, Woodlandtaylors wrote:


Kevin,

I actually have two set of bent wrenches for the job you are doing. 
One is
the standard length the other are the shorter ones for the Unimog - I 
never
be buying a mog I have used them I one of the cars - they are 
Stahlwille

#12972 brand would sell them at a fair price.

Inlet manifold, I know when I first got involved with these cars 
Marshall
said it was not worth pulling the manifold to clean it - We will have 
to see
if he is still of the same option. On his recommendation I never 
bothered.


Dennis T

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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-28 Thread Jim Cathey
My second problem has to do with valve adjustment.  I'm having a 
VERYYY hard
time adjusting the last exhaust valve.  There isn't enough room to 
swing the

wrench without hitting the firewall, so I can't adjust it more than one
turn.  Is there a way around this?(thinking about bending/cutting the 
end of
the wrench to get more space).  Other than this, things seem to be 
normal.


The whole mess is relative to the large hex valve keeper that you
use the seldom-used big wrench (of the set of three) to keep from
spinning.  Perhaps you need to deliberately reposition the keeper
using the big wrench to get another 'bite' on the adjuster and its
lock nut?  When I built my bent wrenches, they are not identical.
The two wrenches were bent in opposite directions so that one or
the other would always be in a position to get a bite on the flats.

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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-28 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Kevin,

My home has two numbers - 360-225-9012 and 360-450-4245, cell of course is
360-608-2737.

Dennis T

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My cell number  is (971)222-6605, and my home number is (503)430-1910.

I sure hope that the shorter wrenches are what I need to bail myself out of 
this jam!

Kevin 



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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-28 Thread Luther Gulseth
I've done 2 adjusts on my CD and 1 on my parents D.  Each time I grumble  
when I hit cyl 5, but I make it.  Just hold your mouth right and switch  
wrenches back and forth.  Mine are set at different angles.


On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:21:38 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you need shorter, then get out the grinder and take off a bit. Most  
mechanics have a drawer full of customized

stuff that they have made or adapted over time.

Randy B

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Did you make some bent wrenches?

I bought some, but they seem to be too long.  I think I'm going to hook  
up
with Dennis T to try out the short wrenches.  Even an inch or so would  
make

ALL the difference in the world on the #5 cyl valves!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles






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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas

Did you make some bent wrenches?

--R

kevin kraly wrote:


Hello everyone!

The first question has to do with the intake manifold, and boy is the inside 
D-I-R-T-Y!  Is there any way short of removal to get this crud out of 
there?


My second problem has to do with valve adjustment.  I'm having a VERYYY hard 
time adjusting the last exhaust valve.  There isn't enough room to swing the 
wrench without hitting the firewall, so I can't adjust it more than one 
turn.  Is there a way around this?(thinking about bending/cutting the end of 
the wrench to get more space).  Other than this, things seem to be normal.


Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles 



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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread Neal Kramarcy

Kevin,
I bent a pair of 14mm for the valve adjustments and have adequate room 
for #5 cyl (firewall).  There are very short wrenches available (Sears 
has set 10-14mm) so that may help.  Good luck.


Neal

Rich Thomas wrote:


Did you make some bent wrenches?

--R

kevin kraly wrote:

 


Hello everyone!

The first question has to do with the intake manifold, and boy is the inside 
D-I-R-T-Y!  Is there any way short of removal to get this crud out of 
there?


My second problem has to do with valve adjustment.  I'm having a VERYYY hard 
time adjusting the last exhaust valve.  There isn't enough room to swing the 
wrench without hitting the firewall, so I can't adjust it more than one 
turn.  Is there a way around this?(thinking about bending/cutting the end of 
the wrench to get more space).  Other than this, things seem to be normal.


Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles 



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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Do you have the factory adjusting wrenches?

kevin kraly wrote:


Hello everyone!

The first question has to do with the intake manifold, and boy is the inside 
D-I-R-T-Y!  Is there any way short of removal to get this crud out of 
there?


My second problem has to do with valve adjustment.  I'm having a VERYYY hard 
time adjusting the last exhaust valve.  There isn't enough room to swing the 
wrench without hitting the firewall, so I can't adjust it more than one 
turn.  Is there a way around this?(thinking about bending/cutting the end of 
the wrench to get more space).  Other than this, things seem to be normal.


Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles 



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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Kevin,

I actually have two set of bent wrenches for the job you are doing. One is
the standard length the other are the shorter ones for the Unimog - I never
be buying a mog I have used them I one of the cars - they are Stahlwille
#12972 brand would sell them at a fair price.

Inlet manifold, I know when I first got involved with these cars Marshall
said it was not worth pulling the manifold to clean it - We will have to see
if he is still of the same option. On his recommendation I never bothered.

Dennis T

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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread kevin kraly

Did you make some bent wrenches?

I bought some, but they seem to be too long.  I think I'm going to hook up 
with Dennis T to try out the short wrenches.  Even an inch or so would make 
ALL the difference in the world on the #5 cyl valves!


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles 





Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread kevin kraly
What would you sell your stahlwille wrenches for?  My wrenches should work 
well for someone, so they'll be up for sale.  Any takers?  They were $87 
new, used only once, so make me a good offer.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles 





Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Kevin,

I was thinking less than half of that. 

Send you telephone number and I'll call you. I'll have to measure the
difference between the 2 sets.

Dennis T. 

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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread kevin kraly

My cell number  is (971)222-6605, and my home number is (503)430-1910.

I sure hope that the shorter wrenches are what I need to bail myself out of 
this jam!


Kevin 





Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-27 Thread R A Bennell
If you need shorter, then get out the grinder and take off a bit. Most 
mechanics have a drawer full of customized
stuff that they have made or adapted over time.

Randy B

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD


Did you make some bent wrenches?

I bought some, but they seem to be too long.  I think I'm going to hook up
with Dennis T to try out the short wrenches.  Even an inch or so would make
ALL the difference in the world on the #5 cyl valves!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles


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