Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-29 Thread Potter, Tom E
Amen, brother.

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This is the USA, why should the government regulate what people drive? 
If those fools want to drive hummers around, let them.  They can either 
pay the higher fuel cost or take some responsibility and realize the are

wasting what valuable resourses of oil we have left.  Would you like it 
if the feds decided one day that no cars over 10 years old should be 
allowed to operate on public streets?



Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond

Actually what I ment was more like a $1/gal gas tax.
I heard an interesting commentary on NPR last night suggesting that very thing 
which suggested that a higher gas tax would result in a lowering of the cost of 
gas (pre-tax cost) because the speculators would see the government actually 
doing something to reduce demand.

I saw an Excursion yesterday with a sticker The Beast filling up that the gas 
station bitching about the price. I asked him what kind of mileage he was 
getting. He said he'd gotten as high as 12mpg... I told him he was part of the 
problem but he didn't really want to hear it.

-Curt

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Amen, brother.

Thomas E. Potter
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This is the USA, why should the government regulate what people drive? 
If those fools want to drive hummers around, let them.  They can either 
pay the higher fuel cost or take some responsibility and realize the 
are

wasting what valuable resourses of oil we have left.  Would you like it 
if the feds decided one day that no cars over 10 years old should be 
allowed to operate on public streets?



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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
Because government is supposed to enact laws that are in our collective 
interest, even if at the cost of someone's perceived personal freedom.
 

 On 8/29/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Actually what I ment was more like a $1/gal gas tax.
 I heard an interesting commentary on NPR last night suggesting that very 
 thing which suggested that a higher gas tax would result in a lowering of 
 the cost of gas (pre-tax cost) because the speculators would see the 
 government actually doing something to reduce demand.
 
 I saw an Excursion yesterday with a sticker The Beast filling up that 
 the gas station bitching about the price. I asked him what kind of mileage 
 he was getting. He said he'd gotten as high as 12mpg... I told him he was 
 part of the problem but he didn't really want to hear it.
 
 -Curt
 
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 This is the USA, why should the government regulate what people drive? 
 If those fools want to drive hummers around, let them. They can either 
 pay the higher fuel cost or take some responsibility and realize the 
 are
 
 wasting what valuable resourses of oil we have left. Would you like it 
 if the feds decided one day that no cars over 10 years old should be 
 allowed to operate on public streets?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-27 Thread Royce Engler
This one's been around the block many times.  Urban legend.  www.snopes.com

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I received this from a friend in NY today (slightly edited to reduce the
length)

WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES

Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you like to start a
modern day Boston Tea Party?

THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE

We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it might go higher!!

Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We need to take some
intelligent, united action.

Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day
campaign that was going around last April or May!

The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
really work. Please read it and join with us!   By now you're probably
thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Now that the
oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that
the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market
place not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to
see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook
by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves.

HOW?

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a
price war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the TWO
BIGGEST COMPANIES (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are
not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If
they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow
suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
and Mobil gas buyers.  If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30
x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 do the same, it won't take long before
millions of drivers have been contacted!

Acting together we can make a difference.  If this makes sense to you,
please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND
KEEP THEM DOWN.

THIS CAN REALLY WORK

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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-27 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah, every time the price of fuel goes up that email does the rounds.
However large car manufacturers are feeling the pinch, the local GM
operation is giving away AU$2000 worth of fuel with every new V6 sold and
AU$4000 for every V8. Not enough though, the GM (we call them Holden)
factory is laying off 1400 workers(20-30%). That and the ripple on
effect(component manufacturers and so on) is going to be pretty bad for the
local economy. And the GM 3.8L V6 is not as thirsty as the Ford 4L straight
six, so Ford might have to temporarily downsize as well.
I could get political about who is to blame for the price of juice but this
is a vehicular based list so I will shut the ..up.

Hendrik
who is happy to have bought a 230E instead of the preferred 280E(although I
might have to look at a 240D next time around)

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 This one's been around the block many times.  Urban legend.
www.snopes.com

 Royce Engler
 1985 300TD Turbo 265K



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 I received this from a friend in NY today (slightly edited to reduce the
 length)

 WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES

 Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you like to start a
 modern day Boston Tea Party?

 THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE

 We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it might go higher!!

 Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We need to take some
 intelligent, united action.

 Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:

 This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day
 campaign that was going around last April or May!

 The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
 continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

 It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

 BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
 really work. Please read it and join with us!   By now you're probably
 thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Now that the
 oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that
 the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
 aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market
 place not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
 day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to
 see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook
 by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
 ourselves.

 HOW?

 Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
 CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a
 price war.

 Here's the idea:

 For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the TWO
 BIGGEST COMPANIES (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are
 not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If
 they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow
 suit.

 But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
 and Mobil gas buyers.  If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30
 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 do the same, it won't take long before
 millions of drivers have been contacted!

 Acting together we can make a difference.  If this makes sense to you,
 please pass this message on.

 PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND
 KEEP THEM DOWN.

 THIS CAN REALLY WORK

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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread Kevin J. Slater
Yes,

cartels (which is basically what's being suggested, a cartel of buyers of
gasoline) work just great on the open market, just ask any decent
economics professor.

So let's think this through a bit. We're supposed to stop buying gas from
Exxon and Mobil until the prices hit $1.30. Do the people that suggest
such plans really think that people are going to wait around for the price
to drop to the target? If the price that Exxon and Mobil charge drops $.10
below what the surrounding vendors are charging, do they REALLY believe
that everyone won't switch over in droves?! What about if it was $.50
cheaper?! How many would hold out at that price? Think about it.

...Kevin

andrew strasfogel said:
 I received this from a friend in NY today (slightly edited to reduce the
 length)

 WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES

 Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you like to start a
 modern day Boston Tea Party?

 THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE

 We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it might go higher!!

 Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We need to take some
 intelligent, united action.

 Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:

 This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day
 campaign that was going around last April or May!

 The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
 continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

 It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

 BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
 really work. Please read it and join with us!   By now you're probably
 thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Now that the
 oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that
 the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
 aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market
 place not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
 day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to
 see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook
 by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
 ourselves.

 HOW?

 Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
 CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a
 price war.

 Here's the idea:

 For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the TWO
 BIGGEST COMPANIES (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are
 not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If
 they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow
 suit.

 But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
 and Mobil gas buyers.  If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30
 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 do the same, it won't take long before
 millions of drivers have been contacted!

 Acting together we can make a difference.  If this makes sense to you,
 please pass this message on.

 PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND
 KEEP THEM DOWN.

 THIS CAN REALLY WORK

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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread 72benz250
Interesting concept but according to these guys it won't work
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/gasout.htm

Looks like their solution it to get rid of california ;)

Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread Christopher McCann
exatly - average person would never hold out. ONly a
few and they would make no difference.

Now, if the teamsters parked all their trucks in DC
and all over the beltway, then something might happen.
Works in France all the time for farmers (tractors in
Paris).

Christopher


--- Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes,
 
 cartels (which is basically what's being suggested,
 a cartel of buyers of
 gasoline) work just great on the open market, just
 ask any decent
 economics professor.
 
 So let's think this through a bit. We're supposed to
 stop buying gas from
 Exxon and Mobil until the prices hit $1.30. Do the
 people that suggest
 such plans really think that people are going to
 wait around for the price
 to drop to the target? If the price that Exxon and
 Mobil charge drops $.10
 below what the surrounding vendors are charging, do
 they REALLY believe
 that everyone won't switch over in droves?! What
 about if it was $.50
 cheaper?! How many would hold out at that price?
 Think about it.
 
 ...Kevin
 
 andrew strasfogel said:
  I received this from a friend in NY today
 (slightly edited to reduce the
  length)
 
  WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES
 
  Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you
 like to start a
  modern day Boston Tea Party?
 
  THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE
 
  We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it
 might go higher!!
 
  Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We
 need to take some
  intelligent, united action.
 
  Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:
 
  This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas
 on a certain day
  campaign that was going around last April or May!
 
  The oil companies just laughed at that because
 they knew we wouldn't
  continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy
 gas.
 
  It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was
 a problem for them.
 
  BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up
 with a plan that can
  really work. Please read it and join with us!   By
 now you're probably
  thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super
 cheap. Now that the
  oil companies and the OPEC nations have
 conditioned us to think that
  the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50-
 $1.75, we need to take
  aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS
 control the market
  place not sellers. With the price of gasoline
 going up more each
  day, we consumers need to take action. The only
 way we are going to
  see the price of gas come down is if we hit
 someone in the pocketbook
  by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that
 WITHOUT hurting
  ourselves.
 
  HOW?
 
  Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop
 buying gas. But we
  CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act
 together to force a
  price war.
 
  Here's the idea:
 
  For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY
 gasoline from the TWO
  BIGGEST COMPANIES (which now are one), EXXON and
 MOBIL. If they are
  not selling any gas, they will be inclined to
 reduce their prices. If
  they reduce their prices, the other companies will
 have to follow
  suit.
 
  But to have an impact, we need to reach literally
 millions of Exxon
  and Mobil gas buyers.  If each of us sends it to
 at least ten more (30
  x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 do the same, it
 won't take long before
  millions of drivers have been contacted!
 
  Acting together we can make a difference.  If this
 makes sense to you,
  please pass this message on.
 
  PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO
 THE $1.30 RANGE AND
  KEEP THEM DOWN.
 
  THIS CAN REALLY WORK
 
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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread DElliott%SWS




This is just a clever attempt by Andrew (heretic !, nonbeliever !) to get
us all to weaken Mobil Oil, the purveyor of Mobil 1. ;-)

Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 84kmi


WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES

Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you like to start a
modern day Boston Tea Party?

THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE

We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it might go higher!!

Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We need to take some
intelligent, united action.

Drivel, drivel, drivel...



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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread dave walton
Another reason this will not work is that the distillate feedstocks have 
been standardized and companies often buy products from competitors if the 
cost of transportation is lower. The only thing that varies from 
brand-to-brand is the additive package. That is why most fuel delivery 
trucks are un-branded. It does not look good for a BP truck to deliver fuel 
to an Exxon station - and it happens all the time. Most notably in rural 
areas where there may only be one Terminal within 500 miles or more.

-Dave Walton


On 8/26/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I received this from a friend in NY today (slightly edited to reduce the 
 length)
 
 WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES
 
 Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you like to start a
 modern day Boston Tea Party?
 
 THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE
 
 We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it might go higher!!
 
 Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We need to take some
 intelligent, united action.
 
 Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea:
 
 This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day
 campaign that was going around last April or May!
 
 The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
 continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas.
 
 It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
 
 BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
 really work. Please read it and join with us! By now you're probably
 thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Now that the
 oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that
 the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
 aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market
 place not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
 day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to
 see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook
 by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
 ourselves.
 
 HOW?
 
 Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
 CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a
 price war.
 
 Here's the idea:
 
 For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the TWO
 BIGGEST COMPANIES (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are
 not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If
 they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow
 suit.
 
 But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
 and Mobil gas buyers. If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30
 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 do the same, it won't take long before
 millions of drivers have been contacted!
 
 Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
 please pass this message on.
 
 PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND
 KEEP THEM DOWN.
 
 THIS CAN REALLY WORK
 
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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
I can feel the love...

I am not a mindless Mobil-hater because of Movbil 1.  Au contraire, I
sort of admire their business acumen in developing these synthetic
products.  I even occasionally gas up at a Mobil station, because I
like the logo and color scheme and their price isn't as high as some
of the other nearby service stations.

But in all seriousness, how can it possibly hurt to simply refrain
from doing business with EXX-MB?

On 8/26/05, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another reason this will not work is that the distillate feedstocks have
 been standardized and companies often buy products from competitors if the
 cost of transportation is lower. The only thing that varies from
 brand-to-brand is the additive package. That is why most fuel delivery
 trucks are un-branded. It does not look good for a BP truck to deliver fuel
 to an Exxon station - and it happens all the time. Most notably in rural
 areas where there may only be one Terminal within 500 miles or more.
 
 -Dave Walton
 
 
 
 On 8/26/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I received this from a friend in NY today (slightly edited to reduce the
 length)
  
  WAR ON GAS/DIESEL PRICES
  
  Do you have a spark of rebellion in you? Would you like to start a
  modern day Boston Tea Party?
  
  THEN JOIN the RESISTANCE
  
  We are ALREADY close to $3.00 a gallon and it might go higher!!
  
  Want gasoline or diesel prices to come down? We need to take some
  intelligent, united action.
  
  Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: 
  
  This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day
  campaign that was going around last April or May!
  
  The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't
  continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy gas. 
  
  It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
  
  BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
  really work. Please read it and join with us!   By now you're probably 
  thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Now that the
  oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that
  the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
  aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market
  place not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
  day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to
  see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook 
  by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
  ourselves.
  
  HOW?
  
  Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we
  CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a 
  price war.
  
  Here's the idea:
  
  For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the TWO
  BIGGEST COMPANIES (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are
  not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If 
  they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow
  suit.
  
  But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
  and Mobil gas buyers.  If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30 
  x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 do the same, it won't take long before
  millions of drivers have been contacted!
  
  Acting together we can make a difference.  If this makes sense to you,
  please pass this message on. 
  
  PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND
  KEEP THEM DOWN.
  
  THIS CAN REALLY WORK
  
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Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop
It can't hurt to refrain, but it won't do anything to help, either. 

The reason I won't buy diesel from them is that it makes my cars smokier,
noisier, and it's much lower Cetane than the ECD-1, from Arco.

Jerry   Ö¿Ö
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I can feel the love...

I am not a mindless Mobil-hater because of Movbil 1.  Au contraire, I
sort of admire their business acumen in developing these synthetic
products.  I even occasionally gas up at a Mobil station, because I
like the logo and color scheme and their price isn't as high as some
of the other nearby service stations.

But in all seriousness, how can it possibly hurt to simply refrain
from doing business with EXX-MB?






Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices

2005-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond

Because it won't help at all...

The real way to lower gas prices is to lower demand. Legislate the H1 out of 
existance, get a government with some balls to institute a fuel economy policy 
worth having rather than the BS we've got now. Make incentives to use public 
transportation that are as great as the incentives not to.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:43:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Something practical to combat high fuel prices
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I can feel the love...

I am not a mindless Mobil-hater because of Movbil 1.  Au contraire, I
sort of admire their business acumen in developing these synthetic
products.  I even occasionally gas up at a Mobil station, because I
like the logo and color scheme and their price isn't as high as some
of the other nearby service stations.

But in all seriousness, how can it possibly hurt to simply refrain
from doing business with EXX-MB?



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