Re: [MBZ] Sprinting
Rich Thomas wrote: I have seen them with both Freightliner (which was Volvo?) and MB badging, I think the ones here are actually MB grills. Freighliner was bought by Mercedes about the late 1980s. The first truck out under the new influence was the FLD-120. It was a major change for the Freightliner brand - it was rather good. And became one of the better selling trucks for a number of years. Volvo hooked up with White, which was connected with Freightliner before Freighliner hooked up with Mercedes. Volvo is now in the USA on their own. The White name may be owned by someone, but the brand is effectively gone. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sprinting
Greg Fiorentino wrote: Freightliner has always been the truck division of Mercedes. No. In the US though, Mercedes didn't have much of a market until they bought Freightliner. But Mercedes had plenty of trucks (or lorries) over there. It seemed to me they supplied Freightliner with much needed quality. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sprinting
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: They are actually final-assembled here in the Charleston SC area, bits come in and they are put together in some fashion (I read something about how that works, but it did not make a lot of sense, probably some tax thing or something). I have seen them with both Freightliner (which was Volvo?) and MB badging, I think the ones here are actually MB grills. There is some kind of long-standing import tax on trucks (no doubt a political favor from years ago when Toyota and Datsun/Nissan were eating Ford and Chevy's lunch on compact pickups), which can be avoided in some fashion by bringing in parts and doing the final assembly in the USA. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Allan Streib wrote: There is some kind of long-standing import tax on trucks (no doubt a political favor from years ago when Toyota and Datsun/Nissan were eating Ford and Chevy's lunch on compact pickups), which can be avoided in some fashion by bringing in parts and doing the final assembly in the USA. Or by permanently mounting passenger seats in the cargo bed. (a la Subaru BRAT) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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...Hm... the standard height roof looks a bit more reasonable. Don't think I've ever seen one on the road... Fedex, DHL and UPS have fleets of them. I ahd a plumber in a while back who was driving one. He said he was getting 14-16 mpg around town which is at least twice what a Ford box van would see. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sprinting
We had a frod cube van with a 12' box and it got 10, the same as the other trucks up to 1.5 ton trucks. ...Hm... the standard height roof looks a bit more reasonable. Don't think I've ever seen one on the road... Fedex, DHL and UPS have fleets of them. I ahd a plumber in a while back who was driving one. He said he was getting 14-16 mpg around town which is at least twice what a Ford box van would see. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sprinting
Freightliner has always been the truck division of Mercedes. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Sprinting They are actually final-assembled here in the Charleston SC area, bits come in and they are put together in some fashion (I read something about how that works, but it did not make a lot of sense, probably some tax thing or something). I have seen them with both Freightliner (which was Volvo?) and MB badging, I think the ones here are actually MB grills. --R On 3/27/11 11:35 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com writes: Unfortunately, around this part of the country, most of what you see are fedex. There was a dogde stealership in the state center that was a sprinter dealer, but now there is no dealer in the state. I went to a dogde stealership in St Louis maybe 1 1/2 year ago and they were closing out the remaining sprinters, but the passenger models were over $60k on closeout. Where *are* they sold these days? Are MB still making them for Dodge, after the disolution of Daimler-Chrysler? Are they still sold with Freightliner badging? I wonder the same thing about the VW Routan... did that partnership survive the bailout of Chrysler? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It was called the Chicken Tax. any light truck that was imported into the USA was subject to it. It was circumvented by having them shipped without beds and have them installed once they arrive. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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...Whats wrong with a Sprinter? Awfully big for what most folks would want in a van. It's really a small-end commercial vehicle... Sprinters come in several sizes but all have the same little diesel engine and wouldn't do well with real weight. But, they are everywhere and seem to have killed the gas powered box van market. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not to mention the Gas Powered Class B motor home market - Just got back from a 2500 mile round trip to Cape Hatterus in North Carolina in my parents 1996 Pleasure way Dodge B3500 Camper - 23MPG Sure would have been nice. On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:18 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Whats wrong with a Sprinter? Awfully big for what most folks would want in a van. It's really a small-end commercial vehicle... Sprinters come in several sizes but all have the same little diesel engine and wouldn't do well with real weight. But, they are everywhere and seem to have killed the gas powered box van market. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: Not to mention the Gas Powered Class B motor home market - Just got back from a 2500 mile round trip to Cape Hatterus in North Carolina in my parents 1996 Pleasure way Dodge B3500 Camper - 23MPG Sure would have been nice. What did theirs cost? An Airstream Sprinter Class B is pushing $80K. You can buy a lot of gas for that money. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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New I'm sure it was near 80K = but they bought this one about 6 years ago for 25K. It is honestly great. We love it. We had a roadtrek before the little tricycle motors came along - but now its a popup for us. We really enjoy spending a week in it and leaving the kids with my parents. Heat, Hot water, refrigerator - bed, really it is a blast. On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com writes: Not to mention the Gas Powered Class B motor home market - Just got back from a 2500 mile round trip to Cape Hatterus in North Carolina in my parents 1996 Pleasure way Dodge B3500 Camper - 23MPG Sure would have been nice. What did theirs cost? An Airstream Sprinter Class B is pushing $80K. You can buy a lot of gas for that money. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmm - sounds like home! On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: We really enjoy spending a week in it and leaving the kids with my parents. Heat, Hot water, refrigerator - bed, really it is a blast. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
