Re: [MBZ] Studded snows
Everyone in Michigan thinks studs are great, but that's probably because they are illegal. Not sure what happens if you get caught driving through the state with them on your car. I've found my HakkaQs on the 240 and the Nokian NRWs on the 190D are adequate for anything I've seen here, without studs. Ron Dwelle On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:41 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote: What is your experience with snow tires? In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious options in studded tires. But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought: 1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice. 2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow. 3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above feezing temps. 4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few months of the year. So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous. Are my assumptions correct? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Studded snows
I like Blizzaks. -Dave Walton On 10/4/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone in Michigan thinks studs are great, but that's probably because they are illegal. Not sure what happens if you get caught driving through the state with them on your car. I've found my HakkaQs on the 240 and the Nokian NRWs on the 190D are adequate for anything I've seen here, without studs. Ron Dwelle On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:41 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote: What is your experience with snow tires? In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious options in studded tires. But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought: 1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice. 2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow. 3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above feezing temps. 4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few months of the year. So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous. Are my assumptions correct? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Studded snows
I got a set of the Blizzaks mounted from tire rack and as far as I'm concerned they're the next best thing to studs. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:59:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Studded snows I like Blizzaks. -Dave Walton On 10/4/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone in Michigan thinks studs are great, but that's probably because they are illegal. Not sure what happens if you get caught driving through the state with them on your car. I've found my HakkaQs on the 240 and the Nokian NRWs on the 190D are adequate for anything I've seen here, without studs. Ron Dwelle On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:41 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote: What is your experience with snow tires? In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious options in studded tires. But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought: 1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice. 2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow. 3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above feezing temps. 4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few months of the year. So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous. Are my assumptions correct? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] Studded snows
ned kleinhenz wrote: What is your experience with snow tires? In planning for this winter, I notice Nokian seems to offer more serious options in studded tires. But I have always avoided studded tire because I thought: 1. Studded tires are definitely benficial on ice. 2. The studs provide little, if any benefit on snow. 3. The studs actually decrease traction on wet and dry pavement above feezing temps. 4. In many states you are required to limit the use of studs to a few months of the year. So, unless you drive on ice a lot, studs are probably disadventageous. Studs are of little/no advantage in deep snow. Even the newest designs reduce traction somewhat on dry or wet pavement (but then snow tires do that also). Stud will make traction possible under some conditions when regular snow tires won't and will improve the chance of you having control of the car over the same tire without studs by a few percent. I have never been stopped from going where I wanted/needed to go in Pittsburgh over the last 45 years when I had 4 studded snows on my car(s) (as long as the snow was under 12-14 deep so the car didn't sit on top of it with the wheels dangling). With snows without studs, there have been a few times when things became dicey. Blizziks are about as good as studs for the first 15-20kmi. I have NOT used the studded tire I still own for the last 4-5 years as when the weather gets really bad, I have NO need to go out in it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
