Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
The W110s I've seen with A/C were a dealer add-on, a Frigi-King or some such under-dash unit. On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, at 13:19, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > On 11/02/2023 12:13 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >>> Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct >>> lever was moved. >> If one doesn't, and it has AC, then the up/down flap inside is >> probably stuck or otherwise non-functional. >> >> -- Jim >> >> > Interesting. It has AC but not currently functional. Probably needs the > compressor changed out. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
Ahh, the classic, “It only needs…” or “It’s a quick/simple/cheap repair…” That’s like my favourite Florida thing - “The AC just needs a can of refrigerant." -D > On Feb 11, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 11/02/2023 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> For some sellers scarcity = value that trumps flaws... >> > And they obviously hope that the same applies to purchasers. > > It might, but one would have to want a car like that pretty badly to pay a > premium price given all of the warts. > > One would think the seller might have done better if some of the more minor > issues had been attended to. > > Randy > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
In truth, these cars in driveable shape are getting scarcer and scarcer. At some point the price has to go up. On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 2:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 11/02/2023 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > For some sellers scarcity = value that trumps flaws... > > > And they obviously hope that the same applies to purchasers. > > It might, but one would have to want a car like that pretty badly to pay > a premium price given all of the warts. > > One would think the seller might have done better if some of the more > minor issues had been attended to. > > Randy > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
On 11/02/2023 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: For some sellers scarcity = value that trumps flaws... And they obviously hope that the same applies to purchasers. It might, but one would have to want a car like that pretty badly to pay a premium price given all of the warts. One would think the seller might have done better if some of the more minor issues had been attended to. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
I’m still trying to figure out how BaT let the reserve be higher than that. They’re slipping up or getting sloppy. -D > On Feb 11, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > For some sellers scarcity = value that trumps flaws... > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 2:06 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 12:13:43 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat >>> blowing to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it >>> was a normal thing. >> >> It was not supposed to direct CHILLED air to the floor. As Jim Cathey >> mentioned, "the up/down flap inside is probably stuck or otherwise >> non-functional." >> >> >>> I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might >>> start if I wanted to try that too. >> >> I wish you success. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
For some sellers scarcity = value that trumps flaws... On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 2:06 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 12:13:43 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat > > blowing to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it > > was a normal thing. > > It was not supposed to direct CHILLED air to the floor. As Jim Cathey > mentioned, "the up/down flap inside is probably stuck or otherwise > non-functional." > > > > I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might > > start if I wanted to try that too. > > I wish you success. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 12:13:43 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat > blowing to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it > was a normal thing. It was not supposed to direct CHILLED air to the floor. As Jim Cathey mentioned, "the up/down flap inside is probably stuck or otherwise non-functional." > I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might > start if I wanted to try that too. I wish you success. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
Good Lord! What did they expect to get for a car with so many faults? Randy On 11/02/2023 12:18 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: At $6100 when hammer fell, didn’t meet reserve. AZBob Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 11/02/2023 12:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:56:54 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The blower provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. Why wouldn't it? It's directly in the intake air plenum, should assist in wherever the air goes... Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct lever was moved. Craig ___ Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat blowing to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it was a normal thing. I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might start if I wanted to try that too. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
As Ralph said, “The market has spoken.” This was not a $6k car. -D > On Feb 11, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > At $6100 when hammer fell, didn’t meet reserve. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On 11/02/2023 12:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: >>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:56:54 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> > I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The > blower provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. Why wouldn't it? It's directly in the intake air plenum, should assist in wherever the air goes... >>> Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct >>> lever was moved. >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> >> Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat blowing >> to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it was a normal >> thing. >> >> I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might >> start if I wanted to try that too. >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
On 11/02/2023 12:13 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct lever was moved. If one doesn't, and it has AC, then the up/down flap inside is probably stuck or otherwise non-functional. -- Jim Interesting. It has AC but not currently functional. Probably needs the compressor changed out. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
At $6100 when hammer fell, didn’t meet reserve. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 11/02/2023 12:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:56:54 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The blower provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. >>> Why wouldn't it? It's directly in the intake air plenum, should assist >>> in wherever the air goes... >> Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct >> lever was moved. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> > Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat blowing > to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it was a normal > thing. > > I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might start > if I wanted to try that too. > > Randy > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
On 11/02/2023 12:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:56:54 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The blower provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. Why wouldn't it? It's directly in the intake air plenum, should assist in wherever the air goes... Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct lever was moved. Craig ___ Maybe mine has a fault somewhere? I cannot recall ever feeling heat blowing to the floor, and I was sure that I had read somewhere that it was a normal thing. I will check it out. Actually warm enough here today that the car might start if I wanted to try that too. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
> Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct > lever was moved. If one doesn't, and it has AC, then the up/down flap inside is probably stuck or otherwise non-functional. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:56:54 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The > > blower provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. > > Why wouldn't it? It's directly in the intake air plenum, should assist > in wherever the air goes... Our W115, a 1972 220D/8, blew heated air to the floor when the correct lever was moved. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
> I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The blower > provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. Why wouldn't it? It's directly in the intake air plenum, should assist in wherever the air goes... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
I am amazed that the bid is up to $6K given all of the things wrong with this car. I wonder if the heater blower issue is like that on the 115. The blower provides air to the windshield but not really to the floor. Randy On 11/02/2023 10:50 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: The conversation carrying on for that auction is interesting. Seller is trying to convince everyone that W110s have no blower motor. I feel that is not true. AZBob Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Entry level finny in CO with plenty of patina. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200-5/ ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
And someone did…. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > > Someone knowledgeable should chime in and help these poor guys out. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> They do, but it’s far more accessible than a W108/114/115 if that’s the >> angle they’re taking. >> >> -D >> On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> The conversation carrying on for that auction is interesting. Seller is >>> trying to convince everyone that W110s have no blower motor. >>> I feel that is not true. >>> >>> AZBob >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: Entry level finny in CO with plenty of patina. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200-5/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
Someone knowledgeable should chime in and help these poor guys out. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > They do, but it’s far more accessible than a W108/114/115 if that’s the > angle they’re taking. > > -D > >> On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The conversation carrying on for that auction is interesting. Seller is >> trying to convince everyone that W110s have no blower motor. >> I feel that is not true. >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Entry level finny in CO with plenty of patina. >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200-5/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
They do, but it’s far more accessible than a W108/114/115 if that’s the angle they’re taking. -D > On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > The conversation carrying on for that auction is interesting. Seller is > trying to convince everyone that W110s have no blower motor. > I feel that is not true. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Entry level finny in CO with plenty of patina. >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200-5/ >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Survivor 200 heckflosse on BAT
The conversation carrying on for that auction is interesting. Seller is trying to convince everyone that W110s have no blower motor. I feel that is not true. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Entry level finny in CO with plenty of patina. > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200-5/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
