Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
I think it was about 2014, maybe 2015 ... On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 2:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I’m not sure now long ago that was. We had t Mobile several years ago and > it was bad. They had added a lot of towers and that new band which has > improved coverage greatly. I have some pockets here and there with spotty > coverage but for the most part had been fine. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > We had T-Mobile at first, but often had to go outside to make calls. > Then > > we found that we had no service when we flew to small town airports, etc. > > Hard to cal for a ride when there is no service. We asked what the locals > > used, and it was Verizon everywhere we went (N, S, E, W), so we switched > > and it's been great everywhere. More expensive, but it works. > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
> You guys still use a 4S? I did, until the move back to AT I upgraded to an 8, since the 4S was basically doomed at that point. The 4S was quite a bit smaller than what replaced it. That was kind of nice, plus I had two drop-in charging stands for it, and a video cable for the TV. I still have it, but it won't talk anymore. Can still use it for wifi apps around the house, if I want to I guess. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have four SEs in rotation. One just decided that the ringer wasn’t going to work any longer after Mom in law plugged in a headset. I presume the jack failed and disabled the speaker. I have a 7 Plus that’s my County work phone, and I really like it, but I’m not keen about the size, which is why I like the SE. I guess I could move us up to 7’s and have a slightly larger form factor, but why spend the money when everyone is happy with what they have? That and we don’t do a lot of stuff on our phones short of calls and texts. If we want to surf the net or watch something we do it on a larger device. -D > On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sat, August 29, 2020 5:57 pm, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> Last year, T-Mobile didn't even work at our house, which has line of >> sight to places where it did work. (It roamed to the AT cell at our >> house.) At the beach cabin, zero service, even though with AT the month >> before it had been fine. (Same iPhone 4S telephone.) > > You guys still use a 4S? > And people think I'm Fred Flintstone with my SE. > The 4S was the first iPhone to have 4G data, wasn't it? > Has Apple updated it to do VoLTE, or is it on the endangered species list > for next winter? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
On Sat, August 29, 2020 5:57 pm, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > Last year, T-Mobile didn't even work at our house, which has line of > sight to places where it did work. (It roamed to the AT cell at our > house.) At the beach cabin, zero service, even though with AT the month > before it had been fine. (Same iPhone 4S telephone.) You guys still use a 4S? And people think I'm Fred Flintstone with my SE. The 4S was the first iPhone to have 4G data, wasn't it? Has Apple updated it to do VoLTE, or is it on the endangered species list for next winter? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> T Mobile has a bunch of new towers on a new band of signal, but in order to > be able to pickup the new signal you have to have a newer phone. I think the > Iphone 8 and up will pick it up, but something as old as a 4 will not. Yeah, I'd heard about that. My zero service at the beach with the 4S might have been mitigated, but IIRC the new tower in that area wasn't all that close either. My wife and son did have newer iPhones, probably 6's, but weren't happy anyway. (They were never at the beach, so no direct test there.) With our renewed AT, and iPhones 8 (1) and 11 (2), everything's working very well. I lost my vendor discount, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One other thing I forgot about. T Mobile has a bunch of new towers on a new band of signal, but in order to be able to pickup the new signal you have to have a newer phone. I think the Iphone 8 and up will pick it up, but something as old as a 4 will not. On 8/29/2020 4:57 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Last year, T-Mobile didn't even work at our house, which has line of sight to places where it did work. (It roamed to the AT cell at our house.) At the beach cabin, zero service, even though with AT the month before it had been fine. (Same iPhone 4S telephone.) Merging with Sprint will help a lot, but Sprint supposedly also had that kind of spotty coverage problem. My wife had a lot more dropped calls with T-Mobile as she drove around town. T-Mobile also did not work at my son's school. Basically in no place where we lived and worked did it function well. All in all, a highly unsatisfactory experience. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Last year, T-Mobile didn't even work at our house, which has line of sight to places where it did work. (It roamed to the AT cell at our house.) At the beach cabin, zero service, even though with AT the month before it had been fine. (Same iPhone 4S telephone.) Merging with Sprint will help a lot, but Sprint supposedly also had that kind of spotty coverage problem. My wife had a lot more dropped calls with T-Mobile as she drove around town. T-Mobile also did not work at my son's school. Basically in no place where we lived and worked did it function well. All in all, a highly unsatisfactory experience. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At an airport the _net_ load is fairly constant. Lots of churn, though. At something like Sturgis, veey different. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is a well known fact when I was researching. Supposedly T Mobile is now about even with AT as far as coverage goes. Now that they bought Sprint maybe it will get even better. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Having worked on both AT’s and Verizon’s site buildouts, I can assure you > that Verizon has everyone beat as far as number of cells and national > coverage. I was told that part of the rationale was to be able to sell off > service for piggybacking to smaller providers, like Spectrum. My Spectrum > account, that costs me a grand total of $66/month for four lines with 4GB of > pooled data piggybacks on Verizon. > > Never had a problem using it anywhere I’ve gone. > > -D > >> On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> We had T-Mobile at first, but often had to go outside to make calls. Then >> we found that we had no service when we flew to small town airports, etc. >> Hard to cal for a ride when there is no service. We asked what the locals >> used, and it was Verizon everywhere we went (N, S, E, W), so we switched >> and it's been great everywhere. More expensive, but it works. >> >>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:46 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:33 am, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! >>> >>> At my house, I'm lucky to listen to my T-Mo voicemail without getting >>> dropped in the middle of the call (but it works OK if I step outside) >>> >>> I just tried Speedtest with Verizon, which give me two bars indoors and >>> sometimes loses words if I walk around during a call. 90ms ping (yuck), >>> 8meg down, 3 meg up. I don't know what the deal is with the ping, I used >>> to get sub-20ms with 2G Alltel, 3G Verizon, and 3G Sprint. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I’m not sure now long ago that was. We had t Mobile several years ago and it was bad. They had added a lot of towers and that new band which has improved coverage greatly. I have some pockets here and there with spotty coverage but for the most part had been fine. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > We had T-Mobile at first, but often had to go outside to make calls. Then > we found that we had no service when we flew to small town airports, etc. > Hard to cal for a ride when there is no service. We asked what the locals > used, and it was Verizon everywhere we went (N, S, E, W), so we switched > and it's been great everywhere. More expensive, but it works. > >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:46 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:33 am, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >>> That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! >> >> At my house, I'm lucky to listen to my T-Mo voicemail without getting >> dropped in the middle of the call (but it works OK if I step outside) >> >> I just tried Speedtest with Verizon, which give me two bars indoors and >> sometimes loses words if I walk around during a call. 90ms ping (yuck), >> 8meg down, 3 meg up. I don't know what the deal is with the ping, I used >> to get sub-20ms with 2G Alltel, 3G Verizon, and 3G Sprint. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeahbut, at a big/busy airport you'd gain or drop 300-500 connections at a time every minute or so. Not only are there a lot of connections they rise and fall "all of a sudden" as a plane arrives or departs. At a sports venue the ramp up or down would slower, although still pretty darn fast. I guess during high traffic times the demand at an airport would be pretty steady with just individual connections changing in/out. -Curt On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 1:09:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Go look at a major sports venue, like a large football stadium. I saw the engineering for WiFi and cellular infrastructure for Raymond James Stadium (Buccaneer’s football stadium, this year’s Super Bowl location) a couple of years ago, since the County owns the stadium and leases it back to the Buccaneers. Mind boggling. It was designed to handle over 50,000 concurrent connections when I saw it, and one of our network guys was telling us a couple of weeks ago that they’ve increased the capacity since. The cellular providers have local cells within those buildings in most cases. I know at TPA there are about four cells belonging to Verizon on site, and they’re all within the buildings. They can manage the loads far better in that kind of environment, as the cells are set up to load balance. These are known as “picocells” or “femtocells” that backhaul on a local fiber network to gain connectivity and manage traffic. For temporary use, all of the major cellular companies have portable sites they’ll bring in to augment existing infrastructure. You’ll probably see some of these in the news over the next few week in the areas where hurricane Laura ravaged the infrastructure. Think of a large mesh network. -D > On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > It only just occurred to me the massive infrastructure the phone providers > must have around airports. The load fluctuation around airports must be > massive. > -Curt > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 12:55:08 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Nope. This is geo fenced somehow and can only be used at your home address. >> Not sure how they do that. > > Lock it to the local tower. That makes sense, it's the only way they could > even > hope to guarantee service levels. Imagine everybody bringing their units with > them to Sturgis, for example. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
Go look at a major sports venue, like a large football stadium. I saw the engineering for WiFi and cellular infrastructure for Raymond James Stadium (Buccaneer’s football stadium, this year’s Super Bowl location) a couple of years ago, since the County owns the stadium and leases it back to the Buccaneers. Mind boggling. It was designed to handle over 50,000 concurrent connections when I saw it, and one of our network guys was telling us a couple of weeks ago that they’ve increased the capacity since. The cellular providers have local cells within those buildings in most cases. I know at TPA there are about four cells belonging to Verizon on site, and they’re all within the buildings. They can manage the loads far better in that kind of environment, as the cells are set up to load balance. These are known as “picocells” or “femtocells” that backhaul on a local fiber network to gain connectivity and manage traffic. For temporary use, all of the major cellular companies have portable sites they’ll bring in to augment existing infrastructure. You’ll probably see some of these in the news over the next few week in the areas where hurricane Laura ravaged the infrastructure. Think of a large mesh network. -D > On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > It only just occurred to me the massive infrastructure the phone providers > must have around airports. The load fluctuation around airports must be > massive. > -Curt > >On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 12:55:08 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Nope. This is geo fenced somehow and can only be used at your home address. >> Not sure how they do that. > > Lock it to the local tower. That makes sense, it's the only way they could > even > hope to guarantee service levels. Imagine everybody bringing their units with > them to Sturgis, for example. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It only just occurred to me the massive infrastructure the phone providers must have around airports. The load fluctuation around airports must be massive. -Curt On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 12:55:08 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > Nope. This is geo fenced somehow and can only be used at your home address. > Not sure how they do that. Lock it to the local tower. That makes sense, it's the only way they could even hope to guarantee service levels. Imagine everybody bringing their units with them to Sturgis, for example. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
> Nope. This is geo fenced somehow and can only be used at your home address. > Not sure how they do that. Lock it to the local tower. That makes sense, it's the only way they could even hope to guarantee service levels. Imagine everybody bringing their units with them to Sturgis, for example. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We had AT for years because we had a vendor discount. We tried tmobile for a month, based largely upon the knowledge that it falls back to AT towers where it has none of its own. Only then did we discover that the fallback is on a tower-by-tower basis, at the discretion of AT, and that one of our primary sites of interest did NOT fallback to that tower. Next month we were back on AT Once we finally talked to a knowledgable guy at a store, he said that for travelers, for those outside of the metropolitan areas, only Verizon and AT had any kind of universal coverage. (This was last year.) If you can order an Uber, or a pizza, you might find one of the secondary vendors satisfactory. Otherwise, not. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Having worked on both AT’s and Verizon’s site buildouts, I can assure you that Verizon has everyone beat as far as number of cells and national coverage. I was told that part of the rationale was to be able to sell off service for piggybacking to smaller providers, like Spectrum. My Spectrum account, that costs me a grand total of $66/month for four lines with 4GB of pooled data piggybacks on Verizon. Never had a problem using it anywhere I’ve gone. -D > On Aug 29, 2020, at 12:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > We had T-Mobile at first, but often had to go outside to make calls. Then > we found that we had no service when we flew to small town airports, etc. > Hard to cal for a ride when there is no service. We asked what the locals > used, and it was Verizon everywhere we went (N, S, E, W), so we switched > and it's been great everywhere. More expensive, but it works. > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:46 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:33 am, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >>> That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! >> >> At my house, I'm lucky to listen to my T-Mo voicemail without getting >> dropped in the middle of the call (but it works OK if I step outside) >> >> I just tried Speedtest with Verizon, which give me two bars indoors and >> sometimes loses words if I walk around during a call. 90ms ping (yuck), >> 8meg down, 3 meg up. I don't know what the deal is with the ping, I used >> to get sub-20ms with 2G Alltel, 3G Verizon, and 3G Sprint. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We had T-Mobile at first, but often had to go outside to make calls. Then we found that we had no service when we flew to small town airports, etc. Hard to cal for a ride when there is no service. We asked what the locals used, and it was Verizon everywhere we went (N, S, E, W), so we switched and it's been great everywhere. More expensive, but it works. On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 9:46 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:33 am, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! > > At my house, I'm lucky to listen to my T-Mo voicemail without getting > dropped in the middle of the call (but it works OK if I step outside) > > I just tried Speedtest with Verizon, which give me two bars indoors and > sometimes loses words if I walk around during a call. 90ms ping (yuck), > 8meg down, 3 meg up. I don't know what the deal is with the ping, I used > to get sub-20ms with 2G Alltel, 3G Verizon, and 3G Sprint. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, August 29, 2020 11:27 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Nope. This is geo fenced somehow and can only be used at your home > address. Not sure how they do that. The PRL (tower database) only has one tower in it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope. This is geo fenced somehow and can only be used at your home address. Not sure how they do that. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:40 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> >> but the T Mobile thing is much cheaper if it works ok in the long run. >> Even though this other company offers those speeds no telling if you >> actually get them. > > And cellular ISP from a national carrier is portable, you can take it with > you on vacations. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:53 am, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > If it's a new service in the area, you'll probably get pretty good > service until it fills up with customers. When I first got EVDO on Alltel, it was practically like having a T-1 line (the T-1 that fed the tower two miles away). Then the neighbor and his kid both got Alltel modems, and performance dropped. Within a year there were probably about ten of us on that tower and it wasn't worth $60/mo anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Have a WeBoost [nee Wilson] at the lake, aimed at the Verizon tower. I have one (with the 12" rod antenna) perched on top of the camper. The rebroadcast antenna I move from the truck cab to the camper, depending on whether we're traveling or parked. I duct-taped an old circular saw blade to the aluminum camper roof, and stick the rod's magnet mount to that. I'm on the second antenna, a rogue overhanging tree took out the first one, ripped the wire out by the roots. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If it's a new service in the area, you'll probably get pretty good service until it fills up with customers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> At my house, I'm lucky to listen to my T-Mo voicemail without getting > dropped in the middle of the call (but it works OK if I step outside) Sounds like you might be a candidate for a Wilson whole-house amplifier system. BIL and his wife are both doctors, and need phone access. The Wilson lets them stay at their vacation cabin. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:40 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > but the T Mobile thing is much cheaper if it works ok in the long run. > Even though this other company offers those speeds no telling if you > actually get them. And cellular ISP from a national carrier is portable, you can take it with you on vacations. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
On Sat, August 29, 2020 10:33 am, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! At my house, I'm lucky to listen to my T-Mo voicemail without getting dropped in the middle of the call (but it works OK if I step outside) I just tried Speedtest with Verizon, which give me two bars indoors and sometimes loses words if I walk around during a call. 90ms ping (yuck), 8meg down, 3 meg up. I don't know what the deal is with the ping, I used to get sub-20ms with 2G Alltel, 3G Verizon, and 3G Sprint. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
So far so good. This is $50 a month. There is a different WISP in the area I thought about contacting before I went this route. They offer up to 25Mbps for $199 a month and 20 for $149. They have cheaper plans also but the T Mobile thing is much cheaper if it works ok in the long run. Even though this other company offers those speeds no telling if you actually get them. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! > >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:38 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> The T Mobile home internet router arrived yesterday. It is basically >> simple router with 2 ports, has a port for WAN and a port for PHONE. >> The WAN and PHONE ports had plugs in them and are not used. Also >> includes a 2.4 and a 5 ghz wifi bands. It then has an internal "cell >> phone" for LTE signal and even has a battery in case the power goes out, >> the router will still run. >> >> I currently have 2 routers at the house, one in my office which was at >> the point where the network cable came in for the internet. The other >> one is in the living room so its wifi coverage would better reach the >> back of the house where the kid is located with his XBox. I had to >> refresh my memory on networking basics as it has been a while since I >> set one up. >> >> I really wanted to just use the T Mobile as a modem and run everything >> thru the main router in my office. I don't think that is possible so I >> had to set the T Mobile router as the gateway and DHCP server with >> 192.168.1.1 as its address. set its range of address to something like >> .25-.254. I then plugged in both of the other 2 routers into the 2 ports >> on the T Mobile router. I sent the router in my office to 192.168.1.2 >> with its DHCP turned off, its default gateway is 192.168.1.1 and DNS >> server is also 192.168.1.1. Same for the second router except I set its >> address to 192.168.1.3. Network is now humming along just fine. >> >> As far as speeds go, I am testing at around 18-20Mbps, sometimes hitting >> up to 30 or so. Not quite in town LTE speeds but what I usually get out >> in the sticks. Last night the kid was on his Xbox, while we were >> steaming Netflix and I ran several speed tests while this was going on. >> It would usually run around 10-12Mbps but would sometimes hit up close >> to 18. The kid who always complained about the old internet was happy. >> When starting a Netflix show it figured up almost instantly instead of >> having to load. >> >> The old WISP internet was supposed to be 12Mbps for which I was paying >> $99 per month usually actually ran at around 4-6. Would sometimes hit >> close to 12 but not very often. Many times I would only get 1-3 Mbps >> out of it, especially when the kid was on his XBox. Supposedly there >> are no data caps and I asked them if they slows down the data after you >> pass a certain point. This said since this was a limited amount of >> people they were allowing on the service it would not be slowed down. I >> am skeptical so I will probably keep the old service active for a month >> to see how this works out. Last night after about 7pm till now we have >> already used 15.7GB of data. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] T Mobile home internet
That sounds excellent for a rural ISP! On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:38 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The T Mobile home internet router arrived yesterday. It is basically > simple router with 2 ports, has a port for WAN and a port for PHONE. > The WAN and PHONE ports had plugs in them and are not used. Also > includes a 2.4 and a 5 ghz wifi bands. It then has an internal "cell > phone" for LTE signal and even has a battery in case the power goes out, > the router will still run. > > I currently have 2 routers at the house, one in my office which was at > the point where the network cable came in for the internet. The other > one is in the living room so its wifi coverage would better reach the > back of the house where the kid is located with his XBox. I had to > refresh my memory on networking basics as it has been a while since I > set one up. > > I really wanted to just use the T Mobile as a modem and run everything > thru the main router in my office. I don't think that is possible so I > had to set the T Mobile router as the gateway and DHCP server with > 192.168.1.1 as its address. set its range of address to something like > .25-.254. I then plugged in both of the other 2 routers into the 2 ports > on the T Mobile router. I sent the router in my office to 192.168.1.2 > with its DHCP turned off, its default gateway is 192.168.1.1 and DNS > server is also 192.168.1.1. Same for the second router except I set its > address to 192.168.1.3. Network is now humming along just fine. > > As far as speeds go, I am testing at around 18-20Mbps, sometimes hitting > up to 30 or so. Not quite in town LTE speeds but what I usually get out > in the sticks. Last night the kid was on his Xbox, while we were > steaming Netflix and I ran several speed tests while this was going on. > It would usually run around 10-12Mbps but would sometimes hit up close > to 18. The kid who always complained about the old internet was happy. > When starting a Netflix show it figured up almost instantly instead of > having to load. > > The old WISP internet was supposed to be 12Mbps for which I was paying > $99 per month usually actually ran at around 4-6. Would sometimes hit > close to 12 but not very often. Many times I would only get 1-3 Mbps > out of it, especially when the kid was on his XBox. Supposedly there > are no data caps and I asked them if they slows down the data after you > pass a certain point. This said since this was a limited amount of > people they were allowing on the service it would not be slowed down. I > am skeptical so I will probably keep the old service active for a month > to see how this works out. Last night after about 7pm till now we have > already used 15.7GB of data. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com