Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/05/2017 9:14 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Indeed. The VIN of our '72 220D/8 was 115.110-10-225256.


Does the 115.115.50.XX of the Frankenheap make it the quintessential
115?

The Albatross (240D) was 123.123.12.123356.  If it had been built 100
later, maybe I'd have kept it!

-- Jim
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All very interesting.
My 76 300D is 115.114.1.2.0*

RB

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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The 50 sez it was a LHD, manual trans made outside Germany according to 
John Green.

https://www.mbspares.com.au/Information/Understandingchassisnumbers.aspx

I always thought that Sud Afrika and Australia had different 7th digits, 
but according to John, it is only a "outside Germany" designation.  I'd 
guess he'd know.


So, the Frankenheap was either made in SA or Oz.


Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
May 21, 2017 at 9:14 AM


Does the 115.115.50.XX of the Frankenheap make it the quintessential
115?

The Albatross (240D) was 123.123.12.123356. If it had been built 100
later, maybe I'd have kept it!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Indeed. The VIN of our '72 220D/8 was 115.110-10-225256.


Does the 115.115.50.XX of the Frankenheap make it the quintessential
115?

The Albatross (240D) was 123.123.12.123356.  If it had been built 100
later, maybe I'd have kept it!

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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 May 2017 15:40:07 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yes, the VIN tells you - back then, IIRC, the VIN started with the
> chassis number.

Indeed. The VIN of our '72 220D/8 was 115.110-10-225256.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

112 is an odd duck too.  the early ones were 111 type Heckflosse, but a 
later subtype had the fins rounded off.  The second type 112 is a 
beautiful car, still in today's world.  They shared the 3 L engine 
history with the 300 Adenauer and the 300SL


110, 111, 112 look dated, like a 57 chevy, but not as gaudy.

David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
May 20, 2017 at 3:50 PM
W114 is 6 cylinders, W115 is less than that (4 or 5 cylinders). The 300D is a 
bit of an odd duck in that it is a W115 chassis but has a W114 dash (with the 
shrivelling speaker grill vs the low-budge but indestructible fixed grille), 
unlike the 240D which had the W115 dash.

A very odd thing, a bit like W108/109, where they are basically the same, except for the 
"details".

D.


On May 20, 2017, Dan Penoff wrote:



Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference is?  I 
can?t recall?

-D



On May 20, 2017, OK Don wrote:

MInor point, but it's a W115.

On Sat, May 20, 2017, Daniel Penoff wrote:


And it?s green!

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

W114 is 6 cylinders, W115 is less than that (4 or 5 cylinders). The 300D is a 
bit of an odd duck in that it is a W115 chassis but has a W114 dash (with the 
shrivelling speaker grill vs the low-budge but indestructible fixed grille), 
unlike the 240D which had the W115 dash. 

A very odd thing, a bit like W108/109, where they are basically the same, 
except for the "details".

D. 

> On May 20, 2017, Dan Penoff wrote:

> Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference is?  
> I can?t recall?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, OK Don wrote:
>> 
>> MInor point, but it's a W115.
>> 
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017, Daniel Penoff wrote:
>> 
>>> And it?s green!
>>> 
>>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html
>>> 
>>> -D

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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, the VIN tells you - back then, IIRC, the VIN started with the chassis
number.

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That was the claim on the R/E list, but has there ever been verification
> of this?  And how can one tell a car is a W115 otherwise?  VIN? Are there
> obvious indicators on the outside?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 20, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes the 115 has more welded points for taxi use.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the
> difference is?  I can’t recall…
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I think the W114 had the 6 cylinder vergasser engines, the W115 had all the
rest, but I could be very wrong . . .

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference
> is?  I can’t recall…
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 20, 2017, at 3:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > MInor point, but it's a W115.
> >
> > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And it’s green!
> >>
> >> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
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> who
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> > for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK.  That makes sense.

-D


> On May 20, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 4-5 cylinder gas and diesels are 115 6 cylinder gas is 114.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That was the claim on the R/E list, but has there ever been verification of 
>> this?  And how can one tell a car is a W115 otherwise?  VIN? Are there 
>> obvious indicators on the outside?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes the 115 has more welded points for taxi use.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference 
 is?  I can’t recall…
 
 -D
 
 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The 4-5 cylinder gas and diesels are 115 6 cylinder gas is 114.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That was the claim on the R/E list, but has there ever been verification of 
> this?  And how can one tell a car is a W115 otherwise?  VIN? Are there 
> obvious indicators on the outside?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes the 115 has more welded points for taxi use.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference 
>>> is?  I can’t recall…
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That was the claim on the R/E list, but has there ever been verification of 
this?  And how can one tell a car is a W115 otherwise?  VIN? Are there obvious 
indicators on the outside?

-D


> On May 20, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes the 115 has more welded points for taxi use.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference is? 
>>  I can’t recall…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes the 115 has more welded points for taxi use.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference is?  
> I can’t recall…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 3:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> MInor point, but it's a W115.
>> 
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> And it’s green!
>>> 
>>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
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>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Meh, I guessed.  And has anyone ever clearly defined what the difference is?  I 
can’t recall…

-D


> On May 20, 2017, at 3:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> MInor point, but it's a W115.
> 
> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> And it’s green!
>> 
>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[OK Don via Mercedes]

MInor point, but it's a W115.

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And it’s green!
>
> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] WOW! Nice 220D W114

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Alas a very UNattractive green.  Too much blue.

On May 20, 2017 12:44 PM, "Daniel Penoff via Mercedes" <
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> And it’s green!
>
> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6092817935.html
>
> -D
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