Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-17 Thread archer
What type of generators are the hybrids using; AC, DC?  Do the traction 
motors have permanent magnet fields?
Thanks,
Gerry Archer
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 Thanks guys for all the help!  I looked at all the stuff you guys sent,
 and decided that it wasn't something I was going to tackle while I was
 sleep deprived from helping run MSU's booth at a conference.

 As a side note I got to meet the VP of Engineering for Mercedes Benz
 Technology (aka, their research branch)!!!  He's a very nice guy, and
 extremely techincal. :) We were showing off our ChallengeX vehicle
 (diesel-electric hybrid) that won 1st place, and he nearly crawled
 underneath the car looking at different modifications!
 Thanks again!
 John


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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-16 Thread John Robbins
Thanks guys for all the help!  I looked at all the stuff you guys sent, 
and decided that it wasn't something I was going to tackle while I was 
sleep deprived from helping run MSU's booth at a conference.

As a side note I got to meet the VP of Engineering for Mercedes Benz 
Technology (aka, their research branch)!!!  He's a very nice guy, and 
extremely techincal. :) We were showing off our ChallengeX vehicle 
(diesel-electric hybrid) that won 1st place, and he nearly crawled 
underneath the car looking at different modifications!

Thanks again!
John

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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley


John Robbins wrote:
 As a side note I got to meet the VP of Engineering for Mercedes Benz
 Technology (aka, their research branch)!!!  He's a very nice guy, and
 extremely techincal. :) We were showing off our ChallengeX vehicle
 (diesel-electric hybrid) that won 1st place, and he nearly crawled
 underneath the car looking at different modifications!

BTW, weren't you working on a PIC based W116 climate control system?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
thanks

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- Original Message - 
From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124


 PDF sent off list.

 On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:11:38 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 where is the aux water pump on a SDL?  Im thinking it must be near the
 monovalve between the 2 firewalls?

 OK Don wrote:
 My SDl did that for a six months while I tried to find the problem.
 Turned out to be the push button unit - re-soldering it cured the
 problem.

 On 8/13/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been noticing a little bit of oddities with how my ACC is working
 in the 92 300D 2.5T, but it was never enough of a problem to worry
 about.  Now that I'm on travel and am driving other people around the
 ACC has decided it only likes to operate in full heat or full cold (it
 will work inbetween for a little bit before it swings to the other
 side).  It seems to me that my temperature sensor just isn't sensing 
 the
 in-car temperature right, but since I'm traveling I don't have my W124
 CD...  so where is the sensor?  I think it is in the overhead light, 
 but
 I'm not for sure.  Is this as simple as replacing a foam hose like on
 the older cars or is there something else?


 Thanks!!
 John





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 '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
where is the aux water pump on a SDL?  Im thinking it must be near the 
monovalve between the 2 firewalls?

OK Don wrote:
 My SDl did that for a six months while I tried to find the problem.
 Turned out to be the push button unit - re-soldering it cured the
 problem.
 
 On 8/13/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been noticing a little bit of oddities with how my ACC is working
 in the 92 300D 2.5T, but it was never enough of a problem to worry
 about.  Now that I'm on travel and am driving other people around the
 ACC has decided it only likes to operate in full heat or full cold (it
 will work inbetween for a little bit before it swings to the other
 side).  It seems to me that my temperature sensor just isn't sensing the
 in-car temperature right, but since I'm traveling I don't have my W124
 CD...  so where is the sensor?  I think it is in the overhead light, but
 I'm not for sure.  Is this as simple as replacing a foam hose like on
 the older cars or is there something else?


 Thanks!!
 John
 

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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the driver's side adjacent to the fuel heater insert in the hot 
side hose.  That's were it is on the W124.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-14 Thread Luther
PDF sent off list.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:11:38 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 where is the aux water pump on a SDL?  Im thinking it must be near the
 monovalve between the 2 firewalls?

 OK Don wrote:
 My SDl did that for a six months while I tried to find the problem.
 Turned out to be the push button unit - re-soldering it cured the
 problem.

 On 8/13/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been noticing a little bit of oddities with how my ACC is working
 in the 92 300D 2.5T, but it was never enough of a problem to worry
 about.  Now that I'm on travel and am driving other people around the
 ACC has decided it only likes to operate in full heat or full cold (it
 will work inbetween for a little bit before it swings to the other
 side).  It seems to me that my temperature sensor just isn't sensing the
 in-car temperature right, but since I'm traveling I don't have my W124
 CD...  so where is the sensor?  I think it is in the overhead light, but
 I'm not for sure.  Is this as simple as replacing a foam hose like on
 the older cars or is there something else?


 Thanks!!
 John





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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
yes, that is where its located but it doesnt have a foam tube.  There will 
be an aspirator motor behind the glove box, make sure its running.  As a 
test, you should be able to put a little piece of tissue against the sensor 
intake and it should hold there

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- Original Message - 
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124


 I've been noticing a little bit of oddities with how my ACC is working
 in the 92 300D 2.5T, but it was never enough of a problem to worry
 about.  Now that I'm on travel and am driving other people around the
 ACC has decided it only likes to operate in full heat or full cold (it
 will work inbetween for a little bit before it swings to the other
 side).  It seems to me that my temperature sensor just isn't sensing the
 in-car temperature right, but since I'm traveling I don't have my W124
 CD...  so where is the sensor?  I think it is in the overhead light, but
 I'm not for sure.  Is this as simple as replacing a foam hose like on
 the older cars or is there something else?


 Thanks!!
 John


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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-13 Thread Peter Frederick
The blower motor is underneath the right side AC vent, you have to pull 
the glovebox to get to it.  Likely it is either stuck (not running) or 
the hose has come adrift.  It's hard plastic, not foam.

Symptoms are a non-working temp sensor, likely due to no flow.  See if 
a bit of thin paper will stay up on the grille next to the sunroof 
switch -- the interior temp sensor resides behind it.  If not, you will 
have to find out why it's not pulling and either repair the hose 
connection or replace the motor.

You may also have other bad temp sensors as well, though.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-13 Thread LarryT
Hi John,
This  is all I could find about the interior temp sensor - there's lots of 
info about the exterior temp sensor -  anyway - this should help you find 
the sensor.

Let me know if you need something else - hopefully the attachment will get 
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- Original Message - 
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124


 I've been noticing a little bit of oddities with how my ACC is working
 in the 92 300D 2.5T, but it was never enough of a problem to worry
 about.  Now that I'm on travel and am driving other people around the
 ACC has decided it only likes to operate in full heat or full cold (it
 will work inbetween for a little bit before it swings to the other
 side).  It seems to me that my temperature sensor just isn't sensing the
 in-car temperature right, but since I'm traveling I don't have my W124
 CD...  so where is the sensor?  I think it is in the overhead light, but
 I'm not for sure.  Is this as simple as replacing a foam hose like on
 the older cars or is there something else?


 Thanks!!
 John


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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-13 Thread LWB250
It should be behind a little grille in the courtesy
light housing, if memory serves me correctly.  From
there a plastic pipe runs across the roof to the A
pillar on the right side, then down along the side of
the glove compartment, after which I think it goes to
the blower housing.

I may be wrong about the exact location - the sensor
may be at the base of the tube below the A pillar -
someone correct me if necessary - it's been a long
time since I've pulled one of these out.

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Re: [MBZ] Where is the ACC temp sensor? W124

2007-08-13 Thread OK Don
My SDl did that for a six months while I tried to find the problem.
Turned out to be the push button unit - re-soldering it cured the
problem.

On 8/13/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been noticing a little bit of oddities with how my ACC is working
 in the 92 300D 2.5T, but it was never enough of a problem to worry
 about.  Now that I'm on travel and am driving other people around the
 ACC has decided it only likes to operate in full heat or full cold (it
 will work inbetween for a little bit before it swings to the other
 side).  It seems to me that my temperature sensor just isn't sensing the
 in-car temperature right, but since I'm traveling I don't have my W124
 CD...  so where is the sensor?  I think it is in the overhead light, but
 I'm not for sure.  Is this as simple as replacing a foam hose like on
 the older cars or is there something else?


 Thanks!!
 John

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