Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
A few years ago I had trouble with my Dodge Dakota like this. I got lots of advice including it must just start hard that I didn't like. Finally somebody decided to replace the fuel pump (this was right around 100,000 as I remember). Apparently theres a check valve inside the fuel pump on that truck that keeps it from draining everything back into the tank. After that its back the way it was starting as easy as could be. Maybe try turning the key to on and leaving it for 15-20 seconds and see if that makes it easier to start. AFAIK in many cars on will trigger the fuel pump and pressurize the system. -Curt Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:35:26 -0400 From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original My 1997 e320 is taking more cranking to start lately. Has 133K and I changed the plugs a few hundred miles ago, old plugs looked good. Any ideas on what may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. Some ideas I had are fuel filter, as well as the security device in the key. The car will not start with a valet key, needs to be the fob so I guess there is a sensor near the ignition. Perhaps my fob battery is low, although it opens/closes the doors just fine. Dave Wakin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. How's your spark plug wires? :-) Get spouse to start it in full darkness with the hood up while you have a close look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
Car doesn't have typical wires - there are 3 coils, each run 2 plugs. Coils mount on top of one plug, and there is a short wire to other plug. I will check though. I changed the plugs about 4 months ago (which equals maybe 200 miles on the car since then, only drive a mile or two a day) I thought of your sl this morning when it happened, as it was very misty/foggy this morning. Dave Wakin - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. How's your spark plug wires? :-) Get spouse to start it in full darkness with the hood up while you have a close look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
Don't know if this would apply in your case on the MB, but my b-in-l who is a mechanic says that if and when I change the spark plugs in my F150 I should also get the boots that go onto the plugs under the coils. He says they cause troubles if they get old and leak electricity. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 Car doesn't have typical wires - there are 3 coils, each run 2 plugs. Coils mount on top of one plug, and there is a short wire to other plug. I will check though. I changed the plugs about 4 months ago (which equals maybe 200 miles on the car since then, only drive a mile or two a day) I thought of your sl this morning when it happened, as it was very misty/foggy this morning. Dave Wakin - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320 may be causing it to take more cranks to start? This morning I turned it over for about 10 seconds before it started. How's your spark plug wires? :-) Get spouse to start it in full darkness with the hood up while you have a close look. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] extended cranking e320
This is absolutely true. The plug boots that sit below each coil pack absorb a lot of heat and moving them around while changing the plugs has caused more than one to fail. The wires that go out the side of the coil pack to the other spark plug bank tend to fail less often. Most often the failure mode is such that you will feel an occaisional miss ant idle, but engine will run fine at speed. Guess a hard start could occue as well, but I hadn't heard that one. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 10/18/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this would apply in your case on the MB, but my b-in-l who is a mechanic says that if and when I change the spark plugs in my F150 I should also get the boots that go onto the plugs under the coils. He says they cause troubles if they get old and leak electricity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com