Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:33:37 -0500 Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
 torque converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend

I think you mean 617, a 5-cylinder diesel engine.


 of mine asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage,
 so my first thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove
 fan clutch. 



Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread OK Don

That would do it, though I'd sell the 560SEL and buy a 300SDL. (making
a couple of big assumptions here).

On 10/31/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A friend

I think you mean 617, a 5-cylinder diesel engine.


 of mine asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage,
 so my first thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove
 fan clutch.



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Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Trampas wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up torque
 converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of mine
 asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my first
 thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan clutch.

A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an 
alternator and electric motor when in operation.



Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread Trampas
First off this is for a 420SEL. I figured the 560SEL I have is low mileage
and runs great. The 420SEL is the daily commuter and has a new(used) head.
Thus I was debating on if I could get the mileage up around 25MPG from
19MPG. Of course the easiest thing would be to get a 300SDL. 

Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

Trampas wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
torque
 converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of mine
 asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my first
 thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan clutch.

A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an 
alternator and electric motor when in operation.

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Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread dave walton

If you want good mileage above all else, get a diesel Jetta. You will
get close to 50 mpg highway. It's not a Mercedes, however...

-Dave Walton

On 11/1/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

First off this is for a 420SEL. I figured the 560SEL I have is low mileage
and runs great. The 420SEL is the daily commuter and has a new(used) head.
Thus I was debating on if I could get the mileage up around 25MPG from
19MPG. Of course the easiest thing would be to get a 300SDL.

Trampas

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On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

Trampas wrote:

 Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
torque
 converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of mine
 asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my first
 thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan clutch.

A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an
alternator and electric motor when in operation.

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Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread Trampas
Well I have been debating for awhile on getting a newer vehicle. However I
had to take a trip for work, which was 8 hours in a car with some coworkers.
So we took a relatively new Acura that one of my coworkers own. After
getting back I realized I would have paid to driven a W126. 

Thus I guess I should find a nice 300SDL. 

Trampas

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

If you want good mileage above all else, get a diesel Jetta. You will
get close to 50 mpg highway. It's not a Mercedes, however...

-Dave Walton

On 11/1/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First off this is for a 420SEL. I figured the 560SEL I have is low mileage
 and runs great. The 420SEL is the daily commuter and has a new(used) head.
 Thus I was debating on if I could get the mileage up around 25MPG from
 19MPG. Of course the easiest thing would be to get a 300SDL.

 Trampas

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:27 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

 Trampas wrote:
 
  Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
 torque
  converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of mine
  asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my
first
  thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan clutch.

 A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
 I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
 power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an
 alternator and electric motor when in operation.

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Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread dave walton

For pure comfort, you can't beat a W140. Expensive to maintain, however.
The amount of rear leg room in the SDL is unsurpassed.
I test drove a diesel Jetta and a diesel Passat, and then decided to
buy my first used Mercedes.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 11/1/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well I have been debating for awhile on getting a newer vehicle. However I
had to take a trip for work, which was 8 hours in a car with some coworkers.
So we took a relatively new Acura that one of my coworkers own. After
getting back I realized I would have paid to driven a W126.

Thus I guess I should find a nice 300SDL.

Trampas

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

If you want good mileage above all else, get a diesel Jetta. You will
get close to 50 mpg highway. It's not a Mercedes, however...

-Dave Walton

On 11/1/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First off this is for a 420SEL. I figured the 560SEL I have is low mileage
 and runs great. The 420SEL is the daily commuter and has a new(used) head.
 Thus I was debating on if I could get the mileage up around 25MPG from
 19MPG. Of course the easiest thing would be to get a 300SDL.

 Trampas

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:27 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

 Trampas wrote:
 
  Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
 torque
  converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of mine
  asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my
first
  thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan clutch.

 A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
 I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
 power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an
 alternator and electric motor when in operation.

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Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread Loren Faeth
It is hard to beat an SDL for road trips. I don't think there is a japanese 
car around that can come close.  Remember, Japan is a series of islands, 
like Hawaii.  Even on the Big Island of Hawaii, in 5 1/2 hours, you can 
drive on every mile of road available.


At 07:59 AM 11/1/2006, you wrote:

Well I have been debating for awhile on getting a newer vehicle. However I
had to take a trip for work, which was 8 hours in a car with some coworkers.
So we took a relatively new Acura that one of my coworkers own. After
getting back I realized I would have paid to driven a W126.

Thus I guess I should find a nice 300SDL.

Trampas

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

If you want good mileage above all else, get a diesel Jetta. You will
get close to 50 mpg highway. It's not a Mercedes, however...

-Dave Walton

On 11/1/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First off this is for a 420SEL. I figured the 560SEL I have is low mileage
 and runs great. The 420SEL is the daily commuter and has a new(used) head.
 Thus I was debating on if I could get the mileage up around 25MPG from
 19MPG. Of course the easiest thing would be to get a 300SDL.

 Trampas

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:27 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

 Trampas wrote:
 
  Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
 torque
  converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of mine
  asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my
first
  thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan clutch.

 A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
 I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
 power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an
 alternator and electric motor when in operation.

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Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

2006-11-01 Thread Trampas
I guess I need to start looking. The body on my 420SEL is in great shape no
rust or anything so maybe I will find a donor for a diesel. I finally found
the donor for the heated seats. 

Trampas

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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

It is hard to beat an SDL for road trips. I don't think there is a japanese 
car around that can come close.  Remember, Japan is a series of islands, 
like Hawaii.  Even on the Big Island of Hawaii, in 5 1/2 hours, you can 
drive on every mile of road available.

At 07:59 AM 11/1/2006, you wrote:
Well I have been debating for awhile on getting a newer vehicle. However I
had to take a trip for work, which was 8 hours in a car with some
coworkers.
So we took a relatively new Acura that one of my coworkers own. After
getting back I realized I would have paid to driven a W126.

Thus I guess I should find a nice 300SDL.

Trampas

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117

If you want good mileage above all else, get a diesel Jetta. You will
get close to 50 mpg highway. It's not a Mercedes, however...

-Dave Walton

On 11/1/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  First off this is for a 420SEL. I figured the 560SEL I have is low
mileage
  and runs great. The 420SEL is the daily commuter and has a new(used)
head.
  Thus I was debating on if I could get the mileage up around 25MPG from
  19MPG. Of course the easiest thing would be to get a 300SDL.
 
  Trampas
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:27 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] lock up torque converter/ transmission for 117
 
  Trampas wrote:
  
   Does anyone know if Mercedes ever made a transmission with a lock up
  torque
   converter that will bolt up to a 117 engine in a W126? A friend of
mine
   asked what could be done to a W126 to get better fuel mileage, so my
first
   thoughts were lock up converter and an electric fan, remove fan
clutch.
 
  A 5sp manual from a 280SL or (rare) 500SLC might work.
  I don't believe the fan clutch draws an appreciable amount of
  power when not engaged, and is much more efficient than an
  alternator and electric motor when in operation.
 
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