Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-21 Thread LWB250
Most cell sites (nodes) have battery backup that is
good for several hours at full load.  Most of the
larger carriers, like ATT, Verizon and Sprint either
have small propane powered standby sets at their sites
or are putting them in.  Because of the increased
subscriber base for phone service with many cable
providers, there is a push for them to have backup
power for their systems as well.  I worked on a
project at Kohler that used a 5kW propane powered set
that provided battery charging to a cable system UPS
that was part of a distribution cabinet.

One of our biggest customers is ATT, who currently
has a national program through Generac that is placing
standby power at all of their sites.  In Indiana alone
that is nearly 300 sites, and we maintain all of
them

Dan

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 It can be nonexistent, in fact. And in case of a
 prolonged power outage, the 
 inability to charge the cell phone batteries will be
 a problem. I also doubt 
 that every (any) cell tower has backup power.
 
 Which is also one of the things wrong with VOIP. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-21 Thread Bill R
Hopefully this far into the process that has quieted down a bit.
BillR

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That makes two of us. I'd be cell-only if I didn't have a phone-crazy wife.
In fact, I could do well with no phone. Don't remember last time I got a
phone call at home that was not a political survey.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 get a radio if you are really worried about talking to someone when the
 power goes out.  personally, i never want to talk to anyone anytime


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Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-20 Thread RELNGSON
 ..I know few people who don't!  West of the Rockies (at least), cell 
 coverage stinks outside of big cities...
 
It can be nonexistent, in fact. And in case of a prolonged power outage, the 
inability to charge the cell phone batteries will be a problem. I also doubt 
that every (any) cell tower has backup power.

Which is also one of the things wrong with VOIP. 

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-20 Thread John Robbins
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 And in case of a prolonged power outage, the inability to charge the
 cell phone batteries will be a problem. I also doubt that every (any)
 cell tower has backup power.

Car chargers?

During Katrina they worked kinda well... about as well as the landlines 
did.

John

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Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-20 Thread Allan Streib
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 It can be nonexistent, in fact. And in case of a prolonged power
 outage, the inability to charge the cell phone batteries will be a
 problem. I also doubt that every (any) cell tower has backup power.

 Which is also one of the things wrong with VOIP. 

Exactly.  With VOIP you need both the utility electric and the
cable/internet provider to be up.  With land line telephone, you
only need the phone service (assuming you have at least one old
fashioned corded telephone in the house)

I can't ever recall picking up the phone and not having dial tone.
Not once.  Cable goes out with every heavy thunderstorm -- power about
that often as well.

I do seem to recall seeing a diesel generator on a pad at most of the
cell phone towers I've seen close-up.  I'm pretty sure they have
backup electricity at that point.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-20 Thread Gary Hurst
get a radio if you are really worried about talking to someone when the
power goes out.  personally, i never want to talk to anyone anytime

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  It can be nonexistent, in fact. And in case of a prolonged power
  outage, the inability to charge the cell phone batteries will be a
  problem. I also doubt that every (any) cell tower has backup power.
 
  Which is also one of the things wrong with VOIP.

 Exactly.  With VOIP you need both the utility electric and the
 cable/internet provider to be up.  With land line telephone, you
 only need the phone service (assuming you have at least one old
 fashioned corded telephone in the house)

 I can't ever recall picking up the phone and not having dial tone.
 Not once.  Cable goes out with every heavy thunderstorm -- power about
 that often as well.

 I do seem to recall seeing a diesel generator on a pad at most of the
 cell phone towers I've seen close-up.  I'm pretty sure they have
 backup electricity at that point.

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] no land line?

2008-06-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
That makes two of us. I'd be cell-only if I didn't have a phone-crazy wife.
In fact, I could do well with no phone. Don't remember last time I got a
phone call at home that was not a political survey.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 get a radio if you are really worried about talking to someone when the
 power goes out.  personally, i never want to talk to anyone anytime


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