Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

2006-05-22 Thread Marshall Booth

Neal Kramarcy wrote:
Well list I want to thank all who had great suggestions and admit I'm 
feeling a little stupid.  When you get the same noise before you replace 
a driveaxle and then it returns it's best to assume that the new 
driveaxle has failed.  Yes, that's apparently the problem.  My inde 
listened then put the car on the lift and let the axles hang and the 
noise disappears.  I guess I was too sure that the axle was ok since the 
noise returned in 6 weeks of replacement of the driveaxle ( about 
1000-1500 miles) and if the old one lasted 25 years how can one fail in 
6 weeks.  Well, that appears to be the problem.   Last night I jacked up 
the rear end using the differential and left it overnight.  A quiet ride 
this morning.   How many miles will this treatment give some relief, I 
don't know.  And I don't think I'll do the experiment.  On the bright 
side, I 've certainly learned a lot about the rear brake system.  Now to 
deal with the supplier of the driveaxle.  Again thanks for the help.


What you've posted sound much more like bad rear wheel bearing than rear 
axle (but COULD be either).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

2006-05-19 Thread Jim Cathey

When you get the same noise before you replace
a driveaxle and then it returns it's best to assume that the new
driveaxle has failed.  Yes, that's apparently the problem.


So was your replacement half-axle new, used, or rebuilt?
(Listed in decreasing order of desirability.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

2006-05-19 Thread Neal Kramarcy

I bought a rebuilt from Rusty.

Neal

Jim Cathey wrote:


When you get the same noise before you replace
a driveaxle and then it returns it's best to assume that the new
driveaxle has failed.  Yes, that's apparently the problem.
   



So was your replacement half-axle new, used, or rebuilt?
(Listed in decreasing order of desirability.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

2006-05-19 Thread John Berryman


On May 19, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Neal Kramarcy wrote:


Well list I want to thank all who had great suggestions and admit I'm
feeling a little stupid.  When you get the same noise before you  
replace

a driveaxle and then it returns it's best to assume that the new
driveaxle has failed.  Yes, that's apparently the problem.  My inde
listened then put the car on the lift and let the axles hang and the
noise disappears.  I guess I was too sure that the axle was ok  
since the

noise returned in 6 weeks of replacement of the driveaxle ( about
1000-1500 miles) and if the old one lasted 25 years how can one  
fail in
6 weeks.  Well, that appears to be the problem.   Last night I  
jacked up
the rear end using the differential and left it overnight.  A quiet  
ride

this morning.   How many miles will this treatment give some relief, I
don't know.  And I don't think I'll do the experiment.  On the bright
side, I 've certainly learned a lot about the rear brake system.   
Now to

deal with the supplier of the driveaxle.  Again thanks for the help.

Neal


	I still think you may have a bad rear wheel bearing. They can be  
silenced by removing the load on the bearings. Another thought is the  
rear sway bar links, which can rub on the inside of the outer joint.

Does the sound change when negotiating bends in the road?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

2006-05-19 Thread Neal Kramarcy
The sway bar links are good; the shop replaced the bushings in their 
first test of the noise problem, thinking that's what I was hearing.  I 
almost wish it was something else.  I've had good luck with two other 
axle replacements, but the fellows at the shop, who I've dealt with for 
about 8 years, told me getting good rebuits is a problem for them and 
one of them has been through 3 sets.  Given the past discussions of 
these driveaxles it appears they have become almost too common to keep 
us happy with the 123s.


Neal

John Berryman wrote:


On May 19, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Neal Kramarcy wrote:

 


Well list I want to thank all who had great suggestions and admit I'm
feeling a little stupid.  When you get the same noise before you  
replace

a driveaxle and then it returns it's best to assume that the new
driveaxle has failed.  Yes, that's apparently the problem.  My inde
listened then put the car on the lift and let the axles hang and the
noise disappears.  I guess I was too sure that the axle was ok  
since the

noise returned in 6 weeks of replacement of the driveaxle ( about
1000-1500 miles) and if the old one lasted 25 years how can one  
fail in
6 weeks.  Well, that appears to be the problem.   Last night I  
jacked up
the rear end using the differential and left it overnight.  A quiet  
ride

this morning.   How many miles will this treatment give some relief, I
don't know.  And I don't think I'll do the experiment.  On the bright
side, I 've certainly learned a lot about the rear brake system.   
Now to

deal with the supplier of the driveaxle.  Again thanks for the help.

Neal
   



	I still think you may have a bad rear wheel bearing. They can be  
silenced by removing the load on the bearings. Another thought is the  
rear sway bar links, which can rub on the inside of the outer joint.

Does the sound change when negotiating bends in the road?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] rear brake is driveaxle

2006-05-19 Thread John Berryman


On May 19, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Neal Kramarcy wrote:


The sway bar links are good; the shop replaced the bushings in their
first test of the noise problem, thinking that's what I was  
hearing.  I

almost wish it was something else.  I've had good luck with two other
axle replacements, but the fellows at the shop, who I've dealt with  
for

about 8 years, told me getting good rebuits is a problem for them and
one of them has been through 3 sets.  Given the past discussions of
these driveaxles it appears they have become almost too common to keep
us happy with the 123s.

Neal



So let us know what the problem was when you get it figgered out.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am