Re: [MBZ] relays

2010-12-23 Thread RELNGSON
 .Howdy -
 Some older cars are aided by having relays added into the headlight 
 circuits ? the 911 especially because the power for the headlight goes 
 through 
 the switch (as I understand it) and the relays reduces the load through the 
 switch.  I?m told this makes it possible to use brighter bulbs safely. I 
 recall reading that the limiting factor for brighter bulbs on the W124 is the 
 plastic headlight housing and the Euro housings are metal and can take more 
 powerful bulbs. So, will relays make a difference on W123 or W124 
 headlight systems?  Where would one find Euro headlight housings?  Or are 
 there 
 other options/solutions?...
 
Before you start thinking about relays, you can do a voltage drop test on 
your own car to see how much voltage drop the stock lights and wiring have. 
And I'll bet you here and now that you won't find battery voltage at the 
lights.

Set your voltmeter on DC volts and with the lights on and working (do not 
unplug the bulb and leave the engine running to maintain a constant voltage), 
measure from the yellow wire on the back of the plug to the positive 
battery post. The voltage drop in that wire will register on the gauge. If 
nothing 
shows, switch beams. I can't recall whether high beam is yellow or white 
but those colors are universal. After recording the drop from each 12v wire to 
the battery, touch the brown wire (ground) and the other probe to a known 
solid chassis ground or the ground post on the battery. This will measure the 
voltage drop in the ground wire. Totalling the ground wire drop with each 
of the others will give the total drop.

If you go back in time, the biggest voltage drop I've seen is in the 6 volt 
Porsche 356 A  B models which had less than 5 volts at the lights. And 
people wondered why they couldn't see at night. Even my Porsche 944 with stock 
sealed beams didn't have battery voltage at the lights. So, I added four 
relays, one for each filament (two per side) and as close to the lamps as 
possible. I used 12gauge wire to the relays with an MB twin-fuse block on the 
fender well. The car now has full battery voltage feeding the 160/100 H4 bulbs. 
If you are familiar with Herr Ohm and his law, you can calculate the 
current flow increase from 55W to 160W which is substantial, thus the absolute 
need for a relay.

If your car has a lamp out module, there will be a tiny consequence to 
installing relays which is the lamp out light will be on permanently. The 
module 
expects to see a certain minumum current flow in the circuit and the relay 
coil is below that so the module decides the lamp is out and illuminates the 
warning.

I installed relays and 160/100 bulbs in my '95 C280 and the lamp out 
warning wason from then on. But, in that car, the warning lamp was tiny and was 
obscured by the steering wheel rim so I couldn't see it anyway.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] relays

2006-10-17 Thread RELNGSON
I am not sure about Porsche, but on the Mercedes it has a circuit to detect
 ignition pluses and turns off fuel pump if engine is not running.

So do the ones in my 1970s Saab 99s. They fit in a standard five spade 
relay
socket. Want me to check Bosch part numbers?

Porsche part #993 615 227 00. Six spade connectors to two relays in one 
housing, one controlling the second.

RLE