Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Oh well. Jon On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: See the photo at the end. Narrative: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, registration XA-TOJ performing flight AM-2 from Madrid,SP (Spain) to Mexico City (Mexico), was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. The crew continued the takeoff and climb, levelled off and descended only after the oxygen masks were released, then entered a hold to burn off fuel and returned to Madrid for a safe landing about 90 minutes after departure. Two cabin crew received injuries, the aircraft sustained substantial damage. An Air Europa Airbus A330 departing after the Aeromexico received nose gear tyre damage while departing over the debris left by the Boeing and needed to return, too, see Incident: Air Europa A332 at Madrid on Apr 16th 2013, damaged nose gear tyres on takeoff. Air Traffic Control reported the aircraft climbed out without any comment, later into the departure climb the crew indicated they had cabin pressure problems and needed to return to Madrid. There was no mention of the possibility of a tail strike and no mention of injuries on board. The tower controller had not been able to see the tail contact the runway surface about 4km from his position, between the Aeromexico and Air Europa there were a few other departures without any problems. On May 3rd 2013 Spain's CIAIAC reported the three flight attendants seated in the rear galley heard strange noises during takeoff. When they proceeded to inform the flight deck about the noises the flight crew already prepared to return to Madrid due to the cabin pressure problems at 14,000 feet. Then the passenger oxygen masks were released. The crew informed ATC about cabin pressure problems 22 minutes after departure. Two of the three cabin crew in the aft galley complained about neck pain. The aircraft received substantial damage to the lower fuselage including the near complete loss of both APU compartment doors. The Air Europa A332 departed 29 minutes after departure of XA-TOJ as 7th aircraft following XA-TOJ. The runway inspection following that departure recovered two metallic pieces of debris from the runway. The visual: http://pt709.synology.me/ouch.png ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
That is a nice car. It;s probably worth at least that much in certain markets. Dimitri, Are you watching this…….? On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
On a rough runway; something like one of the old Hartsfield runways in Atlanta? Seems like there should be a warning sensor in the tail that provided time to slow the rotation. Gerry On 7/15/2014 6:35 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Oh well. Jon On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: See the photo at the end. Narrative: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, registration XA-TOJ performing flight AM-2 from Madrid,SP (Spain) to Mexico City (Mexico), was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. The crew continued the takeoff and climb, levelled off and descended only after the oxygen masks were released, then entered a hold to burn off fuel and returned to Madrid for a safe landing about 90 minutes after departure. Two cabin crew received injuries, the aircraft sustained substantial damage. An Air Europa Airbus A330 departing after the Aeromexico received nose gear tyre damage while departing over the debris left by the Boeing and needed to return, too, see Incident: Air Europa A332 at Madrid on Apr 16th 2013, damaged nose gear tyres on takeoff. Air Traffic Control reported the aircraft climbed out without any comment, later into the departure climb the crew indicated they had cabin pressure problems and needed to return to Madrid. There was no mention of the possibility of a tail strike and no mention of injuries on board. The tower controller had not been able to see the tail contact the runway surface about 4km from his position, between the Aeromexico and Air Europa there were a few other departures without any problems. On May 3rd 2013 Spain's CIAIAC reported the three flight attendants seated in the rear galley heard strange noises during takeoff. When they proceeded to inform the flight deck about the noises the flight crew already prepared to return to Madrid due to the cabin pressure problems at 14,000 feet. Then the passenger oxygen masks were released. The crew informed ATC about cabin pressure problems 22 minutes after departure. Two of the three cabin crew in the aft galley complained about neck pain. The aircraft received substantial damage to the lower fuselage including the near complete loss of both APU compartment doors. The Air Europa A332 departed 29 minutes after departure of XA-TOJ as 7th aircraft following XA-TOJ. The runway inspection following that departure recovered two metallic pieces of debris from the runway. The visual: http://pt709.synology.me/ouch.png ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:00 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On a rough runway; something like one of the old Hartsfield runways in Atlanta? Seems like there should be a warning sensor in the tail that provided time to slow the rotation. Or put a tailwheel on the beastie... ;-) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
So, what's the desired takeoff angle of attack, and at what angle does the tail hit the ground? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Lucky 7?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: So, what's the desired takeoff angle of attack, and at what angle does the tail hit the ground? Interesting. One guy says he has to duck to walk under the tail of a parked 767-300, another says that many idiots just yank the stick back and hold it there until the wheels leave the runway, and yet another guy mentions that landing with spoilers increases AOA. Is there really a situation in which you want to touch down with spoilers deployed? Seems like a good way to increase touchdown speed and hence rollout distance. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3816449/ Some discussion from Boeing: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_04/textonly/tr01txt.html http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_1_07/article_02_1.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Beauty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
That'll buff right out --R On 7/14/14 6:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: See the photo at the end. Narrative: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, registration XA-TOJ performing flight AM-2 from Madrid,SP (Spain) to Mexico City (Mexico), was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. The crew continued the takeoff and climb, levelled off and descended only after the oxygen masks were released, then entered a hold to burn off fuel and returned to Madrid for a safe landing about 90 minutes after departure. Two cabin crew received injuries, the aircraft sustained substantial damage. An Air Europa Airbus A330 departing after the Aeromexico received nose gear tyre damage while departing over the debris left by the Boeing and needed to return, too, see Incident: Air Europa A332 at Madrid on Apr 16th 2013, damaged nose gear tyres on takeoff. Air Traffic Control reported the aircraft climbed out without any comment, later into the departure climb the crew indicated they had cabin pressure problems and needed to return to Madrid. There was no mention of the possibility of a tail strike and no mention of injuries on board. The tower controller had not been able to see the tail contact the runway surface about 4km from his position, between the Aeromexico and Air Europa there were a few other departures without any problems. On May 3rd 2013 Spain's CIAIAC reported the three flight attendants seated in the rear galley heard strange noises during takeoff. When they proceeded to inform the flight deck about the noises the flight crew already prepared to return to Madrid due to the cabin pressure problems at 14,000 feet. Then the passenger oxygen masks were released. The crew informed ATC about cabin pressure problems 22 minutes after departure. Two of the three cabin crew in the aft galley complained about neck pain. The aircraft received substantial damage to the lower fuselage including the near complete loss of both APU compartment doors. The Air Europa A332 departed 29 minutes after departure of XA-TOJ as 7th aircraft following XA-TOJ. The runway inspection following that departure recovered two metallic pieces of debris from the runway. The visual: http://pt709.synology.me/ouch.png ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Is Poos getting that dead SEL? --R On 7/15/14 8:23 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Beauty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Still working on it. More as I know it. I would really like to find a W140 300SEL. I want a W140 chassis with a smaller engine for the economy. I've seen a few around in the $3000 range with high mileage, which doesn't scare me. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is Poos getting that dead SEL? --R On 7/15/14 8:23 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: Beauty. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Yes and I would snatch it up if I were in a position to buy another car! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That is a nice car. It;s probably worth at least that much in certain markets. Dimitri, Are you watching this…….? On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Price is a little high, but nice nevertheless. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4568162179.html Manny tranny AND factory trailer hitch. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 09:20:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Still working on it. More as I know it. I would really like to find a W140 300SEL. I want a W140 chassis with a smaller engine for the economy. I've seen a few around in the $3000 range with high mileage, which doesn't scare me. At what years are you looking? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lucky 7?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:51:43 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20140715/2c5a3ccc/attachment.jpe How about that! Now we need to see it when it has another 7 on the front of what is there. I remark to my wife when we are driving and interesting numbers come up on the odometer. She's not too thrilled. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Budget appears to dictate mid to early 90s, but later is always better. That avoids things like evaporators and wiring harnesses. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 09:20:07 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Still working on it. More as I know it. I would really like to find a W140 300SEL. I want a W140 chassis with a smaller engine for the economy. I've seen a few around in the $3000 range with high mileage, which doesn't scare me. At what years are you looking? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
This is better http://www.wired.com/2014/07/watch-test-pilots-push-the-new-boeing-jet-to-terrifying-limits/ --R On 7/15/14 7:55 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: So, what's the desired takeoff angle of attack, and at what angle does the tail hit the ground? Interesting. One guy says he has to duck to walk under the tail of a parked 767-300, another says that many idiots just yank the stick back and hold it there until the wheels leave the runway, and yet another guy mentions that landing with spoilers increases AOA. Is there really a situation in which you want to touch down with spoilers deployed? Seems like a good way to increase touchdown speed and hence rollout distance. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3816449/ Some discussion from Boeing: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_04/textonly/tr01txt.html http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_1_07/article_02_1.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lucky 7?
My wife is more interested in seeing the interesting numbers on the odometer than I am --- On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:51:43 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20140715/2c5a3ccc/attachment.jpe How about that! Now we need to see it when it has another 7 on the front of what is there. I remark to my wife when we are driving and interesting numbers come up on the odometer. She's not too thrilled. Craig -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
That's what I thought Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: f, oh, well, never mind On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got a new company iphone 5. My old phone was a 4 and only did 3G. This one had lte. Holy crap the Internet is fast. I just tested and got 35mbps down and 11 up. Wow. That's way faster than my home uverse connection . Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Curts new Pickup
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Re: [MBZ] Republic wireless
Do you remember the first cell phones? Installed in the W123s and such? Great big data box bolted in the trunk, wires running everywhere, handset in the console and an antenna the size of a redwood. Ah ... those were the days. Oh, by the way, Mercedes content. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Where is the Mercedes content? --R On 7/14/14 12:56 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Forgive my ignorance, I brought my iPhone to my Verizon plan, does that mean I'm locked into a contract? Assuming I stay with Verizon I see no reason to upgrade my iPhone, it works well enough. How old is your iPhone? If it's 4 or 4s, you can use it with Tracfone's BYOP service if it's in Verizon's database already. If it has a 4G/LTE radio in it (iPhone 5), you probably can't activate it on Tracfone. The big sticking point is it has to be a phone that was once used on a Verizon postpaid plan. http://tracfonewireless.com/byop/ BYOP gives you triple minutes, triple texts, and triple data. For example, if you buy a $20 / 60 minute pin card, on a BYOP phone you'd get 180 minutes of talk time, 180 text messages, and 180 MB of data. Lately I've been able to get the 200 minute cards for $20 (normally $40), so for $20 I get 600 minutes and 600 texts, and 90 days added to my expiration date. I don't use data on my flip phone, so the data just accumulates towards the day that I might swap my service over to a smart phone. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curts new Pickup
Yeah, that'll do. Must have quite the air compressor to fill all those tires that fast. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: [MBZ] Curts new Pickup http://www.ba-bamail.com/Content.aspx?emailid=11154memberid=864102#.U8U9DPldW_Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Republic wireless
You could get some service with those though. Dad kept a bag phone right up until they shut analog service off. We could make calls wy back in the woods. Last fall he managed to get his Jeep stuck and they had to hike quite a ways to find service. Then we discovered that my GPS isn't set up on the same coordinate system as his. Fortunately Delorme came through and I found him on the (paper) map. For his birthday I bought him a set of traction ramps and an adapter so that a hi-lift jack will work on his Jeep which otherwise has no flat surfaces to hook on to. In November when all the guys show up for deer camp I'll present his hi-lift jack. -Curt From: Ed Booher via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Republic wireless Do you remember the first cell phones? Installed in the W123s and such? Great big data box bolted in the trunk, wires running everywhere, handset in the console and an antenna the size of a redwood. Ah ... those were the days. Oh, by the way, Mercedes content. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Where is the Mercedes content? --R On 7/14/14 12:56 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Forgive my ignorance, I brought my iPhone to my Verizon plan, does that mean I'm locked into a contract? Assuming I stay with Verizon I see no reason to upgrade my iPhone, it works well enough. How old is your iPhone? If it's 4 or 4s, you can use it with Tracfone's BYOP service if it's in Verizon's database already. If it has a 4G/LTE radio in it (iPhone 5), you probably can't activate it on Tracfone. The big sticking point is it has to be a phone that was once used on a Verizon postpaid plan. http://tracfonewireless.com/byop/ BYOP gives you triple minutes, triple texts, and triple data. For example, if you buy a $20 / 60 minute pin card, on a BYOP phone you'd get 180 minutes of talk time, 180 text messages, and 180 MB of data. Lately I've been able to get the 200 minute cards for $20 (normally $40), so for $20 I get 600 minutes and 600 texts, and 90 days added to my expiration date. I don't use data on my flip phone, so the data just accumulates towards the day that I might swap my service over to a smart phone. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - a flying tale
On 14/07/2014 10:42 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Conway Twitty?? You're thinking Mel T-t-t-t-tillis, I think. -MMM- ___ Yes, I knew it was a country singer and Twitty did not seem right somehow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
On 15/07/2014 5:35 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Oh well. Jon They just didn't want to admit it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curts new Pickup
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 11:08:10 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.ba-bamail.com/Content.aspx?emailid=11154memberid=864102#.U8U9DPldW_Q What's this Gerry? Did you really send it, or is it a product of a virus? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
The 4 is much better than the 4S in this regard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
Mine was a 4 and it sucked, it was not near as good as my 3GS Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 4 is much better than the 4S in this regard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
I cracked my screen already. Bummer. I treat it no differently than my 4, and have it in the same case. I had my 4 for over three years and it looks like new. Not sure how to interpret this or just chalk it up as an anomaly. Battery life is definitely poorer with exactly the same settings as my 4, and it's three years old with the original battery. MacDan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 4 is much better than the 4S in this regard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
I have a 3G. Is that a good one or a bad one? Gerry On 7/15/2014 1:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Mine was a 4 and it sucked, it was not near as good as my 3GS Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 4 is much better than the 4S in this regard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
I love my LG Optimus android phone. Easy to use, great video and sound, and takes awesome photos. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:05 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have a 3G. Is that a good one or a bad one? Gerry On 7/15/2014 1:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Mine was a 4 and it sucked, it was not near as good as my 3GS Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 4 is much better than the 4S in this regard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Scott Ritchey wrote: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, ... was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. Jon wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Isn't rotating for takeoff just turning around at the end of the runway? How did they get the tail to hit the runway? Doing wheelies? (I know, only possible with the thrust axis below the center of gravity) Or is the runway have a big hill right there? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Rotating for takeoff refers to the airplane rotating at the center of lift, which at takeoff will be the approximate centerline of the wings, ie.. nose up, tail down, to increase the angle of attack of the wings, generate greater lift, and defeat gravity temporarily, also known as flight. Large, Heavy, Airline size aircraft have takeoff rotation angle limits which, if followed by the ever attentive flight deck crew, prevent the tail from striking the ground from to high deck angle... It is possible to rotate the aircraft with such force it will break the tail off, or in a couple cases.. the entire back portion of the aircraft... Ooops.. It's called Major structural damage and requires the airplane to be put out of service for long period or in some cases.. scrapped. In any case.. your next job application is at the unemployment office. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, ... was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. Jon wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Isn't rotating for takeoff just turning around at the end of the runway? How did they get the tail to hit the runway? Doing wheelies? (I know, only possible with the thrust axis below the center of gravity) Or is the runway have a big hill right there? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Actually, initially, it is rotating about the wheel or bogey axles, more or less, to get the nose up to generate more angle of attack and more lift. This guy rotated it a bit much before the wheels got off the ground, or maybe shortly after. The old 727s would slowly do that on the ground if the plane was being refueled and the guy who was supposed to be opening and closing various tank valves left the aft tank valve open and closed the others. Not that I would directly know anything about that... --R On 7/15/14 2:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Rotating for takeoff refers to the airplane rotating at the center of lift, which at takeoff will be the approximate centerline of the wings, ie.. nose up, tail down, to increase the angle of attack of the wings, generate greater lift, and defeat gravity temporarily, also known as flight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] PWR/SLS Pump
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-124-BODY-SELF-LEVELIN-P-STEERING-PUMP-300-E-CE-TE-2-6-124-460-1580-/151139888558?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2330a3adaevxp=mtr Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
The replacement screens on Amazon for $25 are pretty good. It took me maybe 2 hours to do the replacement. One piece of advice is to be ABSOLUTELY sure you keep the screws organized. There are several different sizes that are impossible to tell apart. I used a paper towel and wrote each size on it as I pulled them out. The tool kits you get are cheapo junk, I have a big jewelers screwdriver set and it did everything I needed. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone I cracked my screen already. Bummer. I treat it no differently than my 4, and have it in the same case. I had my 4 for over three years and it looks like new. Not sure how to interpret this or just chalk it up as an anomaly. Battery life is definitely poorer with exactly the same settings as my 4, and it's three years old with the original battery. MacDan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 4 is much better than the 4S in this regard. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 4 or 4s? She says the 4 is much better than the 4s. Another friend had a 4s and went back to a 4. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curts new Pickup
Its just some web-aggregator, here's a link to the video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaNk116b2kw -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curts new Pickup On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 11:08:10 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.ba-bamail.com/Content.aspx?emailid=11154memberid=864102#.U8U9DPldW_Q What's this Gerry? Did you really send it, or is it a product of a virus? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The replacement screens on Amazon for $25 are pretty good. It took me maybe 2 hours to do the replacement. One piece of advice is to be ABSOLUTELY sure you keep the screws organized. There are several different sizes that are impossible to tell apart. I used a paper towel and wrote each size on it as I pulled them out. The tool kits you get are cheapo junk, I have a big jewelers screwdriver set and it did everything I needed. It was a simple 25 minute job that took me just over two hours too. I can take the back off and swap batteries in a minute or two, but it takes some work to get to the screen. I saw some printed magnets being sold on eBay for screw organization, I printed the image from the ad on plain paper and was careful not to disturb the table it was on when I put the screws on it. Made me wish I had a magnetic bumper sticker handy, I would have put it under the paper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
Did the 83 euro 300d have a non turbo engine in them? Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:34:15 -0700 From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find O the temptation... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find
I think all the manual trans cars had non-turbo engines. I the right hand drive cars are the same. -Curt From: MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find Did the 83 euro 300d have a non turbo engine in them? Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:34:15 -0700 From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Find O the temptation... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
On 15/07/2014 3:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The replacement screens on Amazon for $25 are pretty good. It took me maybe 2 hours to do the replacement. One piece of advice is to be ABSOLUTELY sure you keep the screws organized. There are several different sizes that are impossible to tell apart. I used a paper towel and wrote each size on it as I pulled them out. The tool kits you get are cheapo junk, I have a big jewelers screwdriver set and it did everything I needed. It was a simple 25 minute job that took me just over two hours too. I can take the back off and swap batteries in a minute or two, but it takes some work to get to the screen. I saw some printed magnets being sold on eBay for screw organization, I printed the image from the ad on plain paper and was careful not to disturb the table it was on when I put the screws on it. Made me wish I had a magnetic bumper sticker handy, I would have put it under the paper. Mitch. ___ Frig magnets??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
The nice thing about a paper towel is the texture, it kept everything in place as long as I didn't bump it too much. -Curt From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone It was a simple 25 minute job that took me just over two hours too. I can take the back off and swap batteries in a minute or two, but it takes some work to get to the screen. I saw some printed magnets being sold on eBay for screw organization, I printed the image from the ad on plain paper and was careful not to disturb the table it was on when I put the screws on it. Made me wish I had a magnetic bumper sticker handy, I would have put it under the paper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Scott Ritchey wrote: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, ... was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. Jon wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Fmiser wrote: Isn't rotating for takeoff just turning around at the end of the runway? How did they get the tail to hit the runway? Doing wheelies? (I know, only possible with the thrust axis below the center of gravity) Or is the runway have a big hill right there? G wrote: Rotating for takeoff refers to the airplane rotating at the center of lift, which at takeoff will be the approximate centerline of the wings, ie.. nose up, tail down, to increase the angle of attack of the wings, generate greater lift, Got it. Thanks Grant. I'm familiar with the action, and certainly seen it many times, but I didn't know the term. I'd better be careful - too much more of this and I'll be smart! *grin* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
The 727 was sensitive to CG on the ground, but it was never fueling that caused any of that. It was mostly loading passengers with nothing in the cargo bins. That was why Delta had a policy of leaving the aft stairs down until loading was almost complete. As far as 757-767’s go, it about 2-2.5 degrees/second that gets you exactly where you want to be. Good tail clearance, clean liftoff, and good rate-of climb. Best, Jon On Jul 15, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Actually, initially, it is rotating about the wheel or bogey axles, more or less, to get the nose up to generate more angle of attack and more lift. This guy rotated it a bit much before the wheels got off the ground, or maybe shortly after. The old 727s would slowly do that on the ground if the plane was being refueled and the guy who was supposed to be opening and closing various tank valves left the aft tank valve open and closed the others. Not that I would directly know anything about that... --R On 7/15/14 2:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Rotating for takeoff refers to the airplane rotating at the center of lift, which at takeoff will be the approximate centerline of the wings, ie.. nose up, tail down, to increase the angle of attack of the wings, generate greater lift, and defeat gravity temporarily, also known as flight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
Roll up some tape, put bits on a white paper where you can write down which screw it is then put the screw on the tape. Holds it til its needed and you have the record of what goes where. --R On 7/15/14 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The nice thing about a paper towel is the texture, it kept everything in place as long as I didn't bump it too much. -Curt From: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone It was a simple 25 minute job that took me just over two hours too. I can take the back off and swap batteries in a minute or two, but it takes some work to get to the screen. I saw some printed magnets being sold on eBay for screw organization, I printed the image from the ad on plain paper and was careful not to disturb the table it was on when I put the screws on it. Made me wish I had a magnetic bumper sticker handy, I would have put it under the paper. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Here's one for Fred!
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2080826-sale-1984-mercedes-300d.html#post9463954 Right in the neighborhood, too! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Fred!
That might be near me. 401 is RI area code. I can check out. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2080826-sale-1984-mercedes-300d.html#post9463954 Right in the neighborhood, too! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 420SEL
Who wanted a 420? Ad in paper: 1987 $1500 runs good must sell 843-442-5573 --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
Kaleb wrote: This one is the 5c ...I just wanna see if my response comes ...via Mercedes... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Fred!
Dwight's neighborhood. Fred lives north of Boston. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Fred! http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2080826-sale-1984-mercedes-300d.html#post9463954 Right in the neighborhood, too! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
mao wrote: ...I just wanna see if my response comes ...via Mercedes... Nope. I wanna see the big bold via Mercedes... How come I caint? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] How come?
How come I can't get my messages to all appear with ...via Mercedes... like every other message I get? I feel dejected, left out, disenfranchised. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How come?
See below... From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] How come? How come I can't get my messages to all appear with ...via Mercedes... like every other message I get? I feel dejected, left out, disenfranchised. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How come?
Curt wrote: See below... From: Mountain Man via Mercedes Thanks. I always thought that email distributed to my mbz folder came from okiebenz, and indeed maybe it does. In which case it seems that even my emails coming to my mbz folder should also show ...via Mercedes... Your response does not show as ...Curt via Mercedes... which also is strange, unless... I am receiving email from Curt as well as Mercedes. It is merely a consistency of format that I comment about. Back to our normal everyday mercedeslist banter... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How come?
I think your email reader was editing that part out. Try this one, I took you out of the to: line for the reply. Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How come? Curt wrote: See below... From: Mountain Man via Mercedes Thanks. I always thought that email distributed to my mbz folder came from okiebenz, and indeed maybe it does. In which case it seems that even my emails coming to my mbz folder should also show ...via Mercedes... Your response does not show as ...Curt via Mercedes... which also is strange, unless... I am receiving email from Curt as well as Mercedes. It is merely a consistency of format that I comment about. Back to our normal everyday mercedeslist banter... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How come?
Curt wrote: I think your email reader was editing that part out. Try this one, I took you out of the to: line for the reply. That's it. I guess that is part of the *new* *banned* okiebenz fix. Too bad there is sooo much confusion necessary to merely communicate via old style email these days. Better? - not so much. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How come?
Blame the spammers. As with anything it doesn't take many bad apples. From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How come? Curt wrote: I think your email reader was editing that part out. Try this one, I took you out of the to: line for the reply. That's it. I guess that is part of the *new* *banned* okiebenz fix. Too bad there is sooo much confusion necessary to merely communicate via old style email these days. Better? - not so much. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How come?
Curt wrote: Blame the spammers. As with anything it doesn't take many bad apples. I think goverment-mail (gmail) should hire a few spammers for their ingenuity and inventions which create the need for complicating email. The spammers can figure it out quicker and better than the 6-figure desk jockeys in their fat pension laden palo-alto estate offices. Fatwallets merely breeds greater espousal of top-down management that is devoid of all things except for fear of liability attack. We really are upside down in my opnion. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
More on this story: ..A passenger reported the takeoff appeared normal initially until the aircraft began to rotate, the nose lifted up, however, nothing happened. The nose dropped again, then rose very sharply perhaps because of the runway end becoming visible. A sound of impact was heard from the back of the cabin followed by scratching sounds, that lasted for about 5 seconds, then the aircraft began to climb. During the initial climb the aircraft was shaking, the right wing dropped which the passenger, frequent traveller, perceived as unusual. The aircraft continued to climb heading north out of the Madrid area, no announcements were made...snip http://www.aeroinside.com/item/2336/aeromexico-b762-at-madrid-on-apr-16th-2013-tail-strike-on-takeoff http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta-12858.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Fred!
Dan, Dwight, Curt et al.What part of No budget and nowhere to put it don't you understand?Thanks for thinking of me.I lust in my heart for many and varied Benz machines.I did buy a lottery ticket tonight. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:00:13 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Fred! From: mercedes@okiebenz.com http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2080826-sale-1984-mercedes-300d.html#post9463954 Right in the neighborhood, too! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:05:50 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: mao wrote: ...I just wanna see if my response comes ...via Mercedes... Nope. I wanna see the big bold via Mercedes... How come I caint? I don't know how come you canit, but it certainly appeared on both of your postings from what I saw (see quotation line above). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
